Okay now what you just said spits on the entire *nix community.

I myself use LyX less than I do LaTeX with Kile on Debian [don't get me started with the transition LyX is having with the Debian upgrades after Sarge] and I use LyX for OS X and TeXShop for OS X.

This particular section is what caught my attention:

Bottom line: If Angus (and Ruurd before him) hadn't developed Lyx for Windows, I still would use Linux to some extent, but not for Lyx: I would NOT use Lyx for serious work. (Instead I would probably use Scientific Word for which btw I have a valid license and still prefer Lyx.)



So if I read this correctly, because a Win32 port of LyX has been made possible to show the Windows User the Power of the UNIX/Linux World Design approach to Software and what Free Tools can produce using the TeX/LaTeX systems and their many prodigy as the guts underneath the highly abstracted WYSIWYM paradigm none of that matters and it's because of this Win32 option that you consider it for serious work? Never mind the fact that it is more rock solid on its primary platforms and that countless Scientists, Engineers, Writers, Publishers use the these tools for serious work, it's because of the Win32 port it is now to be considered a serious solution?

Please stop using LyX and any of these amateur tools already. By all means utilize that license and slave away at your Scientific Word. You're damn lucky they ported the app in the first place.

Personally, I'd say screw the Win32, focus on the X, GTK+ and Qt ports and let the rest of the world smile with pleasure knowing they actually produce the highest standards of publishing with such tools the likes of which Springer Verlag, Addison-Wesley, Prentice Hall, so on and so forth are more than happy to have in order to make their jobs as publishing houses easier.

If you're going to do another port I would love to see the GNUstep folks make a Cocoa Port to leverage CoreData, Foundation and full AppKit in OS X. Perhaps my colors bleed NeXT having worked there a bit too much but one can dream.

When 1.4 comes out I look forward to seeing it. For now I've become quite accustomed to Kile and using LaTeX directly : it's a nice new skill to add to my ever growing list. I have no problem writing certain types of works in LyX and other types using a LaTeX editor.

To all those that have developed this software your efforts have not gone in vain as by the tens of thousands of email posts in this mailing list should be proof enough.

- Marc


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On Nov 8, 2005, at 1:20 AM, Sven Schreiber wrote:

James W Dow schrieb:
LyX is a wonderful word processor. It is best one for writing mathematics directly from the keyboard. Please don't spend a huge time developing it for Windows. Windows will gradually fade away. Putting nice programs like LyX on that operating system just delays people switching to a version of Linux, where they really should be. Feeding software to Windows just lets it grow
profits for people who are doing nothing positive for the computing
community.


I use and try to spread the use of Lyx on Windows. My colleagues are likely to adopt it once 1.4 is out with working latex import. There is no way that they switch OS because we need some specialized apps that only run under Windows. (Please don't reply with hints on wine, qemu, etc., I've tried it all.) Similar for me: I came from the Mac, have used Linux (and like it), and use Windows because I must. Almost everything I work with is open source, except one or two show-stoppers. (Please don't
reply I should port/replicate the apps myself, I can't.)

Bottom line: If Angus (and Ruurd before him) hadn't developed Lyx for Windows, I still would use Linux to some extent, but not for Lyx: I would NOT use Lyx for serious work. (Instead I would probably use Scientific Word for which btw I have a valid license and still prefer Lyx.)

-Sven


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