Re: [issues] "Female Hackers Battle Sexism [...]"

2000-06-09 Thread kelly
r comments, I would said that you should have your satire detector upgraded. :) Kelly ___ issues mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/issues

Re: [issues] "Female Hackers Battle Sexism [...]"

2000-06-12 Thread kelly
ment here. He's assuming that he's "typical" when in fact he's not. Of course, esr is also a sexist pig, so I don't know if we really want him as a "role model" anyway. Kelly ___ issues mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/issues

Re: [issues] "Female Hackers Battle Sexism [...]"

2000-06-12 Thread kelly
ngly, his tone on the times he thought I was male was discernably different from the times he thought I was female (a tendency not limited to esr). Kelly ___ issues mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/issues

Re: [issues] "Female Hackers Battle Sexism [...]"

2000-06-12 Thread kelly
e do elaborate what you mean. I've only read his work; I haven't >interacted with him IRL. Are there things I should know? Eric seems to think he is a 'chick magnet' and asppears to be trying to collect trophy babes despite already being married. While I don't kno

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-29 Thread kelly
bodies. Well-documented industry standards increase competition, lower consumer costs, increase quality, and accelerate innovation. (This might explain why Microsoft tries to corrupt standards whenever it can.) Kelly ___ issues mailing lis

Re: [issues] Standards?? PHOOEY!!!

2000-06-30 Thread kelly
mmented once that there is an inverse relation between someone's own opinion of their self worth and the number of letters they feel compelled to put after their name. Kelly ___ issues mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/issues

Re: [issues] Re: [grrltalk] [Fwd: [Fwd: Internet Explorer KnowsWhere You Live, Then Tells MSN]]

2001-06-13 Thread Kelly McQuarrie
browser that doesn't crash all the time? I'm to the point that if MS came up with a workable release of IE for Solaris I would use it. I just want something that works. thx Kelly McQuarrie Unix System Administrator Ericsson CDMA Systems On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Arvid Warnecke wrote: >

Re: [issues] women in computing article

2000-04-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
te application-level (or even system-level) programs, any more than it is necessary to understand quantum physics to design a circuit with semiconductors. Kelly ___ issues mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/issues

Re: [issues] women in computing article

2000-04-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
Well, of course. That's because you were in computer science. If you wanted this other stuff, you should have been in MIS, not computer science or computer engineering. Colleges do a very poor job in general of matching students to majors, but they're

Re: [issues] women in computing article

2000-04-14 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
that aspect of reality is not one for which UIUC is to blame. The question, therefore, is whether it is reasonable for people to expect colleges to compensate for the damage done by sexism in primary and secondary education. Kelly ___ issues maili

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving up programming (was games for girls)

1999-10-07 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ook into OpenGL (Mesa) under Linux. I've got this on my list of things to do (but which I never actually get to, sigh). Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Good and bad reasons for giving upprogramming(wasgames for girls)

1999-10-08 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
get into this kind of a "zone" and spend literally days hacking on a problem (my record is 71 hours). I can't do this any more, for reasons which are not entirely clear to me. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Interesting reading..

1999-10-18 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
o$oft's >market dominance. Not to deny that these are interesting, but they are over a year old. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:34:26 -0600 (MDT), Sio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >As a woman, I still really enjoy looking at pretty people. Male AND >female. Not to mention, when I go to themes.org to look for a theme, >I am looking at the THEME, not the pics that people have in their >screenshots. Ther

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
part of why I want to become an attorney, by the way. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Metadiscussion (was: Re: [issues] Screenshots)

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
related to the issue of sexism in Linux development circles, which I thought was a major reason for LinuxChix.org existing. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
at men are taught they have from an early age, not something which men have no choice but to do as a consequence of their genes. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:30:44 -0400 (EDT), Ingrid Schupbach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I too attend law school, and I too believe freedom of speech is >incredibly important. But I'm also in favor of speaking out when >others are being hurtful and thoughtless. Well, the "free speech market" dep

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
s my blinders go, keep in mind that I was trained to be a sexist pig for the first 20-odd years of my life. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] How not to attract geeks

1999-10-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
about alien babies with two heads. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Screenshots (long)

1999-10-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ufficiently literate to express themselves coherently, and yet has not given up on slashdot as proof that Sturgeon's Law applies to the Internet. Kelly (and, yes, nearly all of my slashdot articles get moderated up to at least a 2...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Screenshots

1999-10-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
just sit around and ignore it? Nothing ever gets changed unless people make a stink. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Screenshots (long)

1999-10-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:23:19 -0500, Aaron Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >hehe... you mean after ranting about Malda's ego and bad journalism, >you still post there? Not recently. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
or shock value? To get a rise out of you? No, of course this isn't their intent. It is, however, the effect. I'm sure 90+% of the male geeks in the Linux community are completely unaware of the impact their inadvertent sexism has on women. That is _exactly_ the problem. Kelly *

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ly or unclothed women. I like to think it's tasteful, although I suppose that's debatable. (I've done a few with underclothed men, too, but it's a lot harder to find good pictures of men to work with.) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: Fw: [issues] Screenshots - on a lighter note

1999-10-23 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 21:08:01 -0400, Brendan/Coolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >For the record, no one seems to understand any sort of humor. We all >seem to be so locked into Politically Correct mode... Or, more likely, your attempts at humor are just really bad. Kelly ***

Re: [issues] Slashdot on meeting women

1999-10-25 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
wasn't a great fear anyway. Maybe I'm giving Roblimo more credit than he deserves, but I saw it as a rather funny satire. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Women and the Open Source Community (was screenshots)

1999-10-25 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
classic example of this being whether one cremates or buries one's dead); but no cultural group has any right to maintain a morally reprehensible cultural practice, with no regard given to whether the practice itself is consider morally justified within that culture. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Flame war - after action report & apologies

1999-10-26 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
, but they're not nearly as threatening. (I probably need a higher dose.) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
As far as the broader issue of depression in geeks, I'm leery. I'm sure we've all seen the articles that talk about geeks and autism. I'm not comfortable with making broad claims like that. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
on't know who made the >comments), but the female comments that say "here is really how to >get laid" don't help the situation. You're assuming that they were actually posted by women. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] the adult linux project... (meep)

1999-10-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
most of whom would rather see you buried under a pile of your own smut? :) Kelly (BTW, if I was admitted to the bar, I might consider taking you as a client, but you'd pay through the nose for it at $250/hr, probably more like $400.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] RE; Depression & geeks

1999-10-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
t... St. John's Wort did nothing for me. Zoloft, on the other hand... I won't even get into the differences between Black Cohosh and Premarin. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] the adult linux project... (meep)

1999-10-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
pornography or obscenity. The definitions of pornography and obscenity are not easy to understand or apply. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] the adult linux project... (meep)

1999-10-30 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
n advise her client on how to avoid them. If this is fearmongering, so be it. I've read the rest of your message several times, and, to be honest, I don't understand what you're trying to say. I must be dense this morning, must be this damn flu I've had all week. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: [issues What is ismissing...what am I missing...

1999-10-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
hings like what colors to prefer and to avoid, how much jewelry is appropriate, and so on. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Places, issues and all the rest...Maybe the Wst CoastIS THE Best Coast.

1999-10-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ometimes feel: alienation from more "traditional" female groups. Now, most of us don't give a damn about those groups, but there are some who might Kelly (who understands alienation better than anyone has any right to...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-10-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ng_ after the employer would know that the employee was TS)? I'd also want to know whether the employer was subject to FMLA. Kelly (no, really, I'm not a lawyer!) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Something I've observed

1999-11-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
te clubs as far as I can tell. Exceptions might apply if your organization is affiliated in some way with a government entity. Kelly [1] Unless they operate a "public accomodation". [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Automatic associations

1999-11-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
bother me as much generally), and a strong association of women and science, which is probably the result of my mother being a doctor. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-01-02 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
r consider that this might be part of why you have a hard time finding satisfactory employment? :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] RE; Depression & geeks

1999-10-30 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
), which can cause miscarriages, and black cohosh (often taken as an alternative to hormone replacement therapy post-menopause), which can damage the heart. This is wandering off topic, so I'm going to recommend we push this to grrltalk. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] alienation (was: Places, issues, etc)

1999-01-02 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
t? And >what was it that She-ra said when she invoked her special powers? It was my impression that She-Ra was considerably smarter than He-Man. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
something of the same problem. People tell me I'm a good programmer, but I think I suck. Hard to say who's right... Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 1 Dec 1999 15:51:04 -0800 (PST), Deirdre Saoirse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I think it should have an optional DISPLAY in some web cgi, but it >should NOT be run from there. I _despise_ products that only have a "web" interface. Kelly [E

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
of the math is hairy >but that doesn't have to be a part of the initial release (resource >levelling is an n-dimensional problem depending on the criteria >established). Oh, bother, somewhere in my mailbox I have a message from someone who is actually working on this. If I ever

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-02 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:19:06 -0800 (PST), Deirdre Saoirse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Most open-source projects ARE led by one person. The GIMP is probably the largest exception to this rule. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier (was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-02 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
has some solution for that, too? The Python runtime isn't all that large. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: Project management software project, was Re: [issues] Jamie Lokier(was Re: 50 people to watch)

1999-12-03 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
le of places out there that let you park your open source project in their CVS for free. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Prototype vs. design

1999-12-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
uot;Don't talk!" and "FOCUS!" (another KDE "tenet"). GNOME seems to have put considerably more attention into design, although perhaps not as much as they should. It probably also helps that a lot of the people in the open source community have little or no

Re: [issues] Prototype vs. design

1999-12-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
types of CS, after all; EECS is the "hack and slash" style, while (Math)CS is a more theoretical approach. Usually the character of the department is determined by whether it grew out of a math department or an engineering department. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Prototype vs. design

1999-12-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
science -- and that was almost ten years ago. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Fwd: RMS says "Boycott Amazon"

1999-12-15 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
he PTO grants patents for obvious crap, companies are going to go for them -- and their lawyers and accountants are going to advise them to do so. Piddly little boycotts from gadflies like RMS aren't going to make any difference. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Patents (was: RMS boycott of Amazon)

1999-12-18 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
assign the patent to their employer (and in fact are often required to by their contracts) but only a natural person can be awarded a patent. Believe me, if the law allowed it corporations would file the patents in their own name and cut the inventor out of the loop entirely. Kelly ***

Re: [issues] Patents (was: RMS boycott of Amazon)

1999-12-19 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
quot; doctrine as a matter of law for patents. Patents follow the contract, and if the contract is silent, the individual retains all rights. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] list of women in open source

1999-12-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
validate user input on Web forms (I claimed that you have to validate the data at the server anyway because you can't trust the user's client to behave; he said that this was ridiculous). I suspect he assumed that because I'm female I don't code Sigh. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] list of women in open source

1999-12-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 20 Dec 1999 18:37:12 -0500, Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Apologies for interrupting; I recall quite clearly from a previous >exchange of messages that you said you were one of the guys, or words >to that effect. I am definitely not one of the

Re: [issues] list of women in open source

1999-12-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
't remember any female coders during my time, but I left the field relatively early. There were plenty of female builders, though. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] list of women in open source

1999-12-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
gh my posts for the last couple of months to see if I had said anything strange, though. If anything, you made me laugh. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] labor law 101 for geeks?

1999-12-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
t;done. Generally, the best place to start for these tidbits is the US Department of Labor and your state department of labor (or its equivalent). Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] labor law 101 for geeks?

1999-12-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
might not be liable, but it won't keep you from getting sued. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Despotic Demographics RANT (LONG)

1999-12-31 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
truly amazing is that Rand was female. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re; Despotic Demographics

2000-01-02 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
some women feel uncomfortable. That is a real shame. To be honest, what I really want to do with my life is be a housewife. Unfortunately, there's not much chance I'll ever have that option. Life is so depressing. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
.. And this is why we've had a female president? You can't tell me that there haven't been any women with the proper mindset, determination, willpower, and strength. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
un don't want to support them. Remember, you need 2% to get matching funds. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-06 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
don't have a monopoly on taking risks -- they're just perceived as having such. The fact that many women have to be concerned not only for themselves but for their children, for whom they are the only source of support, does lead to some degree of legitimate risk aversion, though... Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-09 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
as long as the school operates on a non-profit basis.) (This is starting to drift off topic.) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-09 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
it's quite evident that the authors of the Fourteenth Amendment intended only to prohibit the complete denial of basic rights on the basis of race. The current interpretation of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendents is clearly a product of the past 70 years of Constitutional interpretation, a

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-09 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
hough. The fact that they reflect on ability to be elected is a strong condemnation of the American electoral process. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-10 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
gt;world"? Politics has no place for crooks and liars, although it >seems that this is all that has been getting involved in it recently, >for the most part. It depends on the skeleton. A lot of the time, the "skeletons" are matters that are quite irrelevant to the ind

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:15:34 -0500, "Dan McGarry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >A quick way is to read the HTTP response headers from their >website. If it says 'Apache' (or suchlike) in there anywhere, you'll >know it's safe to talk to them.

Re: [issues] Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-11 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ough it's considered poor form for an attorney to use the title of "Doctor" by virtue of her J.D. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-12 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
x27;t spell the full version), >the cutover point has traditionally been marriage not age. The reason for this is that, traditionally, a woman comes "of age" when she marries, while men come of age when they reach a certain age. Traditions suck. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Mr., Mrs., Miss, Dr. or Sir

2000-01-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:27:10 -, "Ian Phillips" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I quite like Esquire, but mainly for the fact that it is such an >anachronism these days! "Esquire", these days, means you're an attorney. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ring_. A dress every now and then would liven things up, methinks. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-13 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
pronouns. I have lately gotten into the habit of using 'she' generically when I write informally (when I write formally, I avoid using pronouns to refer to indefinite persons altogether). Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-14 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
would confuse us non-native English >speakers and we'd probably turn to Esperanto instead :-). Actually, there have been several efforts to invent such pronouns. The one I'm most familiar with is the Spivakian "e" (used in the Joy of TeX): e, em, eir, emself. There ar

Re: [issues] Re: Demographics - Reprise

2000-01-16 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
carrying a shoulder bag I haven't had either problem (except for the kids getting into it and stealing things and/or depositing random things like crackers). And that last problem is moot now. Sigh. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Ottawa-Carleton Linux Users Group discovers LinuxChix

2000-01-24 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
e going to take the position that "We're for the guys and LinuxChix is for the girls." Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Blind Spots about reality (was: Ottawa-Carleton Linux Users Group discoversLinuxChix)

2000-01-30 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
to pass for a guy anymore. (Is it ok for women to make eye contact with strangers?) >* He doesn't get touched anywhere near as often as I do - rarely at >all. Friends of both of us hug me hello and goodbye, but not him. This ticks me off too. Damnit, I want hugs, and nobody ever giv

Re: [issues] Religion (was: YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article))

2000-02-24 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
rnity testing, that's also no longer necessary. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Re; Religion (Was YAFGA)

2000-02-25 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 21:30:30 -0800, Jeff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Again, I need to proof read more... My point was that most of the US >citizenry just plain don't care about the laws or the government. At least not until those laws land on their head. Kelly

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-16 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
en't socialized to seek power. They're socialized to seek security. Aggregation of power is a male thing, or so we're told. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
he general public is still afraid of computers ("We don't like what we don't understand, in fact it scares us"), and often that fear gets transferred to the priests and acolytes of the Holy Order of the CPU. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
s to listen to >them.) Especially when you consider that MBA types seems to have a distinct deficit of useful knowledge of, really, anything Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
opatriarchy. I guess I'm just not involved enough in separatist gay groups to hear much talk about the "heteropatriarchy". Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
hich seems >to be all they need to be successful. Maybe it's supposed to be good >business or something. I'll admit to bias: I'm a law student, and we tend to look down our pointy little noses at the business students across campus. We are, of course, better than they a

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
erm relationship and have no plans to date for the indefinite future. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
discussing the heteropatriarchy. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article)

2000-02-22 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
on use. Reckon that can be done in 6 months or so ? Why? The only reason for having this is to make it easier for guys who are attracted to bisexual women (yeh) but are themselves not actually bisexual to more easily identify their prey. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Religion (was: YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article))

2000-02-23 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
organization simply because the state expects those things. There are better ways to obtain legal recognition of marriages (and the other state benefits of legal clergy) within your religious group, the easiest being getting all your members ordained by an ordination mill. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Bilateral Dominance (was: YAFGA...)

2000-02-23 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
s is intended; they serve a valuable purpose. They're just largely worthless as a source of unbiased factual information. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Religion (was: YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article))

2000-02-23 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
bing of the nose at the way the state chooses to recognize religious organizations. I feel no spiritual or religious attachment whatsoever to that church, and I don't expect they expect me to either. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Religion (was: YAFGA (Yet Another Female Geeks Article))

2000-02-23 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
her. That would take away a large part of the desire of religious organizations to be recognized by the state in the first place. (The other reason is probably priest-penitent privilege.) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] Bilateral Dominance (was: YAFGA...)

2000-02-23 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
ientele is not representative of the population, and statistics within their clientele almost certainly do not generalize to the population as a whole. Of course, I said all of this in my prior message (although in not as much detail), so I imagine it will be ignored this time as well. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] UCITA info (was: Free FrameMaker beta for Linux)

2000-02-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
poly. For Adobe, that means .pdf, a proprietary format, could >only be offered by Adobe. This is completely incorrect and expresses a serious lack of understanding of what UCITA would actually do. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] UCITA info (was: Free FrameMaker beta for Linux)

2000-02-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
oppose UCITA, but because of its attempt to create a proprietary property interest in raw data. If you took them out, I'd support it. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] UCITA info (was: Free FrameMaker beta for Linux)

2000-02-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
o me >that there are big businesses quite willing to pay for closed >systems. To be fair, the author did jail time for violating _Norwegian_ law. DMCA had no application _at all_. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] UCITA info (was: Free FrameMaker beta for Linux)

2000-02-29 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
tivity is possible but subject to regulation by the federal, not state, courts. Can you say "turf war"? Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [issues] FAQ: Answer request

2000-03-01 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:10:20 -0600, coder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >You know, if men were escorted around after dark, think of all the >crimes that would cease. The problem is, who are you going to get to do the escorting? Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

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