On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:29:58 -0400 (EDT), srl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>>I don't buy esr's argument here.  He's assuming that he's "typical"
>>when in fact he's not.

>what would you suggest as an alternative? why do you think people
>work on open source?

>For myself, I work with/on open source when I can because I like to
>pull gadgets apart and see how they work. I hate seeing work inside
>companies wasted by developing an in-house gadget which is replicated
>X times by X companies to solve the same problem. As far as I can
>tell, working on open source software is the best way for me to find
>examples of how to be a good problem-solver and programmer.

I've been working with "open source" since long before the term even
existed (I contributed to a few different MUD servers--the server
code, not the online building stuff--back in the early 90s).  My
involvement is always been along the line of "It would be nice if this 
did THIS instead....".  I've never really cared for recognition, which 
is good since I get very little of it, being primarily a maintenance
programmer (the people who take the junk the developers write and make 
it work).  In many cases, I fix bugs because finding and fixing bugs
is like solving a puzzle.

>>Of course, esr is also a sexist pig, so I don't know if we really
>>want him as a "role model" anyway.

>Please do elaborate what you mean. I've only read his work; I haven't
>interacted with him IRL. Are there things I should know?

Eric seems to think he is a 'chick magnet' and asppears to be trying
to collect trophy babes despite already being married.  While I don't
know that his wife disapproves of this, I have my doubts about whether
she's particularly happy with it.

Kelly


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