Re: [issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-09 Thread Ian Hall-Beyer
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 16:05:01 -0700 (PDT), Nicole Zimmerman wrote: >It drives me nuts to have my name spelled wrong, let alone have someone >assume it's of a different gender... I can't imagine how you deal with it >(other than getting used to it, like having your name spelled wrong ;o)). You'd th

Re: [issues] Anyone know any more about this study?

2000-08-09 Thread Ian Hall-Beyer
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 14:33:36 +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote: >But now he cooks more often than I do, when I'm coding (even though >he codes too). And washes up. >Anyway, I think stuff like this is improving. I'd say you have him well-trained :) Now to figure out how to train roommates to wash dishe

Re: [issues] Apology

2000-08-09 Thread Shawn Ann Griffith
HMmm How does Christi not belong here any more than you belong here Deidre? The last I checked anyone was allowed to be on the mailing list for LinuxChix. All I know is at least someone appologized for the nonsense that went on in here. Oh yeah, Christi, thanks for apologizing :) Sh

Re: [issues] Anyone know any more about this study?

2000-08-09 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 05:04:45AM -0600, Ian Hall-Beyer wrote: > I'd say you have him well-trained :) Yeah maybe... :) > Now to figure out how to train roommates to wash dishes more than once > a month, when they're the primary user of the kitchen. "Non-gamers wash up" is working for me at th

Re: [issues] Apology

2000-08-09 Thread C. M. Martin
OK, enough already! > > Your apology is not accepted. > > You don't belong here. > > Go away. Pardon me, Deirdre, but are you in charge of LinuxChix? Do you have the authority to decide who does and does not have the right to be here. Are you list manager? I thought that was Deb. If you do

Re: [issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-09 Thread Annette Stroud
Jamie Walker wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 04:05:01PM -0700, Nicole Zimmerman wrote: > > > It drives me nuts to have my name spelled wrong, let alone have someone > > assume it's of a different gender... I can't imagine how you deal with it > > (other than getting used to it, like having yo

Re: [issues] Anyone know any more about this study?

2000-08-09 Thread Annette Stroud
Jamie Walker wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 07:50:41PM -0400, lou wrote: > > > born, the woman usually has primary care for it. Often the father goes out > > without ever needing to worry about childcare because the mother is at home, > > where the mother usually has to ask the father to b

[issues] Custody

2000-08-09 Thread Rockwell, Christi
From: Jamie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "I spend a lot of time looking after kids that aren't mine, simply because I like doing it. You can rest assured that if/when it comes to having kids of my own, I will be spending a *lot* of time looking after them. Despite this, the prevailing attitudes in

Re: [issues] Anyone know any more about this study?

2000-08-09 Thread Alexander Sendzimir
[ Annette, You received this post and not the list. Sorry. My fault. abs ] Annette Stroud wrote: > > > The fact is that women PENALIZE THEMSELVES and that it is, to a large > > > degree, a choice. > > > > The context of your statement is subtle. Would you please expand on this? > > By marrying a

Re: [issues] Marriage (was: Anyone ... study?)

2000-08-09 Thread Mandi
This got long... > > Hmmm. This sounds like a pointer to a problem with the institution of marriage. Now >THAT is an interesting subject. All cultures through time have [had] some ceremony >by which two individuals are bonded to each other. Do you think humanity's > 'global' culture (did I sa

Re: [issues] Marriage (was: Anyone ... study?)

2000-08-09 Thread GeekGrrl
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Mandi wrote: > Marriage is a socialized institution hanging on from a time when explicit > roles were necessary; it has embedded itself in our laws and religions. > The same economic freedom that gives a single man the ability to have > multiple wives that he could never d

Re: [issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-09 Thread Vinnie
On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Nicole Zimmerman wrote: > I have been working with a woman in the extended degree program named > "chris". I know she's a woman because I've seen her and dealt with her for > a while, but I can ONLY imagine how unnerving it must be to get e-mail > requests for support addresse

Re: [issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-09 Thread Vinnie
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Annette Stroud wrote: > He thinks that random adults who meet him treat him better if > they think he is a girl; they have different expectations. Weird. I've found the opposite...I get more respect as a 12 y/o boy than as a 22 year old female. As if for some reason if I'm f

Re: [issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-09 Thread Christian MacAuley
> I have been working with a woman in the extended degree program named > "chris". I know she's a woman because I've seen her and dealt with her for > a while, but I can ONLY imagine how unnerving it must be to get e-mail > requests for support addressed to "Mr. Chris ...". It would drive me > ins

[issues] Outcome

2000-08-09 Thread Rick Moen
FYI. Comments below. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:42:11 -0400 (EDT) From: deb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rockwell, Christi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED] '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: final warning "Rockwell, Christi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr

[issues] Re: Outcome

2000-08-09 Thread cynthia
Rick Moen writes: "I privately predicted yesterday that Deb would end up going for the "even-handedness" gambit:. It was her easy way out. And, indeed, how it worked was as follows: " 1. Christi e-mailed, OFF-LIST, an accusation that Deirdre was working in concert with her ex, and threatened l

[issues] admin note

2000-08-09 Thread deb
Just in case folks don't think I'm paying attention, I am. I am sincerely hoping to deal with the current conflict offlist, as I requested of all parties involved yesterday. Deirdre does not have the right or authority to decide who does or does not belong on this list. That decision remains so

[issues] WTF?! Warning : RANT

2000-08-09 Thread Simon Britnell
Ok, maybe that apparently private email from Deb was posted with her permission, but I suspect not. So: Deb sinks her own time, effort and resources into setting up and maintaining this list and the linuxchix website. I am extremely grateful that I have this forum to hear (usually in a civil

[issues] copyright assignment

2000-08-09 Thread Kelda-Anne Sholdice
Hi all, I've poked around the web a bit, but ... I want to prepare a copyright assignment for some contract programming I am doing. I'm in Canada, if that makes a difference. Pointers to a good site ar two would be greatly appreciated, as would recommendations for offline resources. (Didn't qu

Re: [issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-09 Thread Kirrily 'Skud' Robert
In article <00f901c0023e$645e3f60$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian MacAuley wrote: >> I have been working with a woman in the extended degree program >named >> "chris". I know she's a woman because I've seen her and dealt with >her for >> a while, but I can ONLY imagine how unnerving it must be to ge

Re: [issues] names [was: Anyone know any more about this study?]

2000-08-09 Thread Annette Stroud
Vinnie wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Annette Stroud wrote: > > > He thinks that random adults who meet him treat him better if > > they think he is a girl; they have different expectations. > > Weird. I've found the opposite...I get more respect as a 12 y/o boy than > as a 22 year old female.