From: Jamie Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

"I spend a lot of time looking after kids that aren't mine, simply
because
I like doing it. You can rest assured that if/when it comes to having
kids of my own, I will be spending a *lot* of time looking after them.
Despite this, the prevailing attitudes in this country (and many others
judging by comments here) mean that I would have very little chance of
getting custody in a relationship breakup.

"And I don't think that's any more fair than the glass ceilings for women
in employment. Personally (I don't expect anyone else to agree) I'd be
glad to trade salary and promotion opportunities for a fair shot at
keeping hold of any kids I might have in future. Obviously I don't
_plan_
on ever being in that situation, but who knows?"

Contrary to popular opinion defacto maternal custody is hardly the standard.
At home I have a book on custody and child support and it brings up some
interesting figures.  The majority of the time the mother wants custody and
the father doesn't.  When cases go to court the majority of the time
(something like 70% if I remember correctly) the custody ordered is joint
custody.  (If anyone is interested in exact figures on this I can dig them
up when I get home.)

It's very rare for a mother to get sole custody with no visitation or even
supervised visitation EVEN when there is abuse involved.  I know of one
mother (contrary to Deidre's impressions, I know people besides myself and
my ex) who is fighting now because her ex kidnapped her child and the court
is on HIS side.  She is deemed a bad mother because she has roommates while
her ex is shacking up with someone.  She has to let her son go to his
father's every weekend, even with the threat of him being kidnapped again.

Another mother I know lived in my building until early this spring.  Last
fall she had federal marshals come into her home and forcibly remove her
children (I've seen security shots of the children being dragged away, one
naked except for a blanket -- in November).  Her children were sent back to
the father who was abusive and had threatened to kill the mother (I believe
in front of the kids, but I could be wrong).  She hasn't been allowed to see
or talk to her children since.

On the other hand, I know a number of parents that have workable joint
custody.  With my background I find it absolutely amazing that this happens
at all.  (My parents can't be on the same coast let alone the same room :-) 



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