Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun Apr 6, 2025 at 2:13 PM BST, Greg wrote: On 2025-04-06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Fri Apr 4, 2025 at 11:01 PM BST, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: This is the real problem: threads here go on for months and years. Why is this a problem? Because in the modern age we need things that start i

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri Apr 4, 2025 at 11:01 PM BST, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> This is the real problem: threads here go on for months and years. > > Why is this a problem? Because in the modern age we need things that start instantly and end rapidly.

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri Apr 4, 2025 at 11:01 PM BST, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: This is the real problem: threads here go on for months and years. Why is this a problem? -- Please do not CC me for listmail. 👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland ✎j...@debian.org 🔗 https://jmtd.net

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-06 Thread 황병희
Hellow Jeff, Jeffrey Walton writes: > On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:23 PM Max Nikulin wrote: >> [...] >> Let's avoid discussions if gmail should be used. De-facto it is widely >> used, it has features and limitations. My point is that gmail users >> should be aware that some suggestions perfectly v

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-05 Thread Max Nikulin
d per se that thread is split in some cases. However it would be better to have cross links between both parts to switch to the counterpart and "undo" button to override heuristics. "Solved" is never removed from subject, making it close to useless if the message caused co

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Max Nikulin
not tried mail services other than Gmail. I expect that at least quality of implementation for this feature varies across them. The worst thing with Gmail, from my point of view, is that it still may sometimes send a message with In-Reply-To and full set of References despite completely new

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Lee
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 5:02 PM Larry Martell wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 12:05 PM Fred wrote: >> >> HI, >> >> One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP >> has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to >> waste their time and effort tryin

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
il, minor subject changes like "solved" are hidden within a > conversation. Subject is rendered once above messages. So efforts to mark a > message may not be noticed. > > Again when reading mail, if subject is changed almost completely: "Old" to > "N

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 3:05 PM Fred wrote: > > One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP > has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to > waste their time and effort trying to find a solution when the OP has > moved on and won't need to respond

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 11:59:23AM -0700, Fred wrote: > One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP has > solved the problem Do you understand that Max and I are saying that the way the web UI for gmail and other large mailbox providers works is that as soon as you

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Larry Martell
On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 12:05 PM Fred wrote: > HI, > > One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP > has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to > waste their time and effort trying to find a solution when the OP has > moved on and won't need to

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Fred
HI, One reason to use the "solved" tag is to let everyone know that the OP has solved the problem and moved on so that others don't continue to waste their time and effort trying to find a solution when the OP has moved on and won't need to respond any more. Best regards, Fred On 4/4/25 08

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, Apr 04, 2025 at 10:22:47AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > I am neutral to this recommendations. Just some considerations... > > I rarely use Gmail web UI, but this time I was curious enough to check its > behavior. As I keep pointing out, and you have covered again here, any change of s

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025 at 11:23 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > [...] > Let's avoid discussions if gmail should be used. De-facto it is widely > used, it has features and limitations. My point is that gmail users > should be aware that some suggestions perfectly valid for other MUA > should be avoided in the

Re: "solved" in message subject

2025-04-04 Thread Greg
On 2025-04-04, Max Nikulin wrote: > > Let's avoid discussions if gmail should be used. De-facto it is widely > used, it has features and limitations. My point is that gmail users > should be aware that some suggestions perfectly valid for other MUA > should be avoided in the mail.google.com web

"solved" in message subject

2025-04-03 Thread Max Nikulin
ssion is that it is rather fragile.) When reading mail, minor subject changes like "solved" are hidden within a conversation. Subject is rendered once above messages. So efforts to mark a message may not be noticed. Again when reading mail, if subject is changed almost completely:

Re: Very frustrating help and support on all channels -----------Fwd: fail message dirmanager

2025-02-18 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-12-23 17:43, koffie wrote: Forwarded Message Subject: fail message dirmanager Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:38:24 +0100 From: koffie To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Ubuntu / Oracular Hello, It is not possible to download an iso file. It takes hours to get it but it

Re: Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2025-02-18 Thread Greg
On 2024-12-24, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 12:51:57AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> The persistence of the person, in refusing to subscribe to, and post the >> query to, the Ubuntu users list, make me think that the person is simply >> trolling this list, and, that the person

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 2025-02-01 12:39, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:07:49AM -0700, g...@extremeground.com wrote: On 2025-02-01 09:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: BTW: the same happens with the previous kernel. Also, this is a Debian/Buster server running on AMD64 hardware. I've fsck'd th

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, Feb 01, 2025 at 10:07:49AM -0700, g...@extremeground.com wrote: > On 2025-02-01 09:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: > > BTW: the same happens with the previous kernel. Also, this is a > Debian/Buster server running on AMD64 hardware. I've fsck'd the partition > and it's fine. > > I reboo

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables [RESOLVED]

2025-02-01 Thread Gary Dale
On 2025-02-01 11:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: I get the message right after the boot sequence declares the / drive clean. The subject message repeats 3 times then the system boot stops. It still responds to the keyboard but there is no system to log into. When I go into the system in a

Re: boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread gary
On 2025-02-01 09:29, g...@extremeground.com wrote: I get the message right after the boot sequence declares the / drive clean. The subject message repeats 3 times then the system boot stops. It still responds to the keyboard but there is no system to log into. When I go into the system in a

boot fails very early with a systemd-service message about failing to load kernel variables

2025-02-01 Thread gary
I get the message right after the boot sequence declares the / drive clean. The subject message repeats 3 times then the system boot stops. It still responds to the keyboard but there is no system to log into. When I go into the system in a chroot after booting with systemrescue, I find that

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-30 Thread songbird
3 (4)$ /usr/share/binfmts$ cat /etc/alternatives/jexec-binfmt package openjdk-21 interpreter /usr/bin/jexec magic PK\x03\x04 (5)$ cat python3.13 package python3.13 interpreter /usr/bin/python3.13 magic \xf3\x0d\x0d\x0a = reinstalled openjdk-21 and binfmt-support, same message... songbird

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 10:52 AM GMT, songbird wrote: Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 What do you have in /usr/share/binfmts ? -- Please do not CC me for listmail

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread songbird
Cindy Sue Causey wrote: ... > In my case these days, I have two things I would do to take a poke at > this in hopes something obvious presents itself: > > $ apt-cache policy openjdk-9 > > I might even try the much busier "apt-cache policy openjdk-*" to see if > anything else is lingering. My setup

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/01/2025 17:52, songbird wrote: update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 Likely it is related to running of .jar files without explicit java command. In a similar way wine may install a handler for .exe files in addition to

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
Thank you, Developers! > {time passes} > > I've since taken a look at the relevant package description > (binfmt-support) and, IMO, that message shouldn't even be a warning, > but > simply a notification. In my case these days, I have two things I would do to take

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
g as expected, I don't worry about it. {time passes} I've since taken a look at the relevant package description (binfmt-support) and, IMO, that message shouldn't even be a warning, but simply a notification. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space

debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread songbird
during this morning's update run: Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 ? what does this mean to you? songbird

Re: Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 12:51:57AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > The persistence of the person, in refusing to subscribe to, and post the > query to, the Ubuntu users list, make me think that the person is simply > trolling this list, and, that the person should be moderated on this list, > for p

Re: Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/12/24 23:45, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [Reply-to set to debian-user - please subscribe and reply on-list. That way anyone else can benefit from the reply. Copy direct in case you are not already subscribed.] On Tue, Dec 24, 2024 at 09:00:14AM +0100, koffie wrote: Hello Andy thanks for you

Re: fail message dirmanager

2024-12-24 Thread Frank Jezzer
On 2024-12-22, koffie wrote: > Ubuntu / Oracular > Hello, > > It is not possible to download an iso file. > It takes hours to get it but it doesn't boot > The sha is fail permanently. > > On today I've got a fail message during a test - download on youtube. >

Re: Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-24 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
> never o.k. All prepared USBs from the Linux installation got a fail > message, theydidn't boot. > This may depend on exactly how you're copying the .iso file to the USB. > Accidently on yesterday I tried to boot in the Grub command-line and > that worked. > You dont

Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-24 Thread koffie
Thanks for the reply. Andy has been addressed to a...@strugglers.net Koffie Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager] Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 14:40:52 + From: Andy Smith Reply-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org To

Re: Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-24 Thread Andy Smith
rientation > and answering is a risk on further spread. > > The technical aspect is: It was not possible to get any live system on > an USB stick. Switching to the Windows installation has prevented me > from the use of all kinds of img programs. > The downloads has lasted 5-

Re: Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-24 Thread john doe
On 12/24/24 09:00, koffie wrote: I have to find a solution to be able to boot from USB to start my Ubuntu. If that works I can try to restore the system partition on Windows. Looks like you are in a lot of trouble, the only thing I can suggest would be to reinstall Windows and use WSL to have

Fwd: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-24 Thread koffie
nstallation has prevented me from the use of all kinds of img programs. The downloads has lasted 5-6h for the Ubuntu desktiop but the sha was never o.k. All prepared USBs from the Linux installation got a fail message, theydidn't boot. Accidently on yesterday I tried to boot in the Grub command-

Re: Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-23 Thread Andy Smith
ge.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/24.10/release/ > > Also, bear in mind that 24.10 is not the Ubuntu LTS which is 24.04 > > > On today I've got a fail message during a test - download on youtube. > > It mentioned there is no dirmanager but it is on my computer. > > >

Re: Very frustrating help and support on all channels -----------Fwd: fail message dirmanager

2024-12-23 Thread Bret Busby
On 24/12/24 02:10, e...@gmx.us wrote: On 12/23/24 12:43, koffie wrote: Forwarded Message Subject: fail message dirmanager Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:38:24 +0100 From: koffie To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Ubuntu / Oracular Hello, It is not possible to download an iso

Re: Very frustrating help and support on all channels -----------Fwd: fail message dirmanager

2024-12-23 Thread eben
On 12/23/24 12:43, koffie wrote: > > > > ---- Forwarded Message > Subject: fail message dirmanager > Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:38:24 +0100 > From: koffie > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Ubuntu / Oracular > Hello, > > It is not possib

Very frustrating help and support on all channels -----------Fwd: fail message dirmanager

2024-12-23 Thread koffie
Forwarded Message Subject: fail message dirmanager Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2024 20:38:24 +0100 From: koffie To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Ubuntu / Oracular Hello, It is not possible to download an iso file. It takes hours to get it but it doesn't boot The sha is

Ubuntu 24.10 failing download [Re: fail message dirmanager]

2024-12-22 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
it doesn't boot > The sha is fail permanently. > Where are you - where are you downloading from - which mirror or site? Try: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/24.10/release/ Also, bear in mind that 24.10 is not the Ubuntu LTS which is 24.04 > On today I've got a fail m

fail message dirmanager

2024-12-22 Thread koffie
Ubuntu / Oracular Hello, It is not possible to download an iso file. It takes hours to get it but it doesn't boot The sha is fail permanently. On today I've got a fail message during a test - download on youtube. It mentioned there is no dirmanager but it is on my computer. I have

Re: How to send a message to a user logged in over ssh

2024-12-05 Thread Will Mengarini
* didier gaumet [24-12/05=Th 10:11 +0100]: > Le 05/12/2024 à 06:52, Ben Wong a écrit : >> Howdy! >> >> On most (all?) current Unix systems I can use `write` to communicate >> with users logged in over `ssh`. However, now that Debian is removing >> `mesg` and `writed` from util-linux [1], I'm wonde

Re: How to send a message to a user logged in over ssh

2024-12-05 Thread didier gaumet
Le 05/12/2024 à 06:52, Ben Wong a écrit : Howdy! On most (all?) current Unix systems I can use `write` to communicate with users logged in over `ssh`. However, now that Debian is removing `mesg` and `writed` from util-linux [1], I'm wondering what the officially recommended replacement is. I

How to send a message to a user logged in over ssh

2024-12-04 Thread Ben Wong
Howdy! On most (all?) current Unix systems I can use `write` to communicate with users logged in over `ssh`. However, now that Debian is removing `mesg` and `writed` from util-linux [1], I'm wondering what the officially recommended replacement is. I mean, I suppose I could always look up their ph

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-19 Thread Anssi Saari
Henrik Ahlgren writes: > Perhaps try Magic-Wormhole: > > https://magic-wormhole.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ > > apt install magic-wormhole Very interesting, thank you. Maybe not that great for LAN use but I might have have a use for it.

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 5:08 PM Anssi Saari wrote: > Christian Britz writes: > > Am 16.11.24 um 05:42 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > > >> If your Windows machine can run an ssh daemon that you can log into, > >> then you could use it as your SOCKS proxy, though I have no idea how > >> you'd go about

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread debian-user
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:34:00 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk > wrote: > > "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to > > > >list all the way

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Anssi Saari
Christian Britz writes: > Am 16.11.24 um 05:42 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > >> If your Windows machine can run an ssh daemon that you can log into, >> then you could use it as your SOCKS proxy, though I have no idea how >> you'd go about setting up an sshd on Windows. > > Should not be to hard using

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/11/2024 11:20, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 10:30:06AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Are there any errors in Console ([Ctrl+Shift+K])? Right click on any entry allows to copy or to save all messages. The message id is russell#1 I suspect that GL canvas on an error

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 08:33:25PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup reports a location of Texas for this address, so server-side Geo IP blocking seems unlikely. A rural area a little south of Austin. My ISP is RTA (rtatel.com). If no browser extensions have b

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
gt; > Right click on any entry allows to copy or to save all messages. > I thank you. > > > hint: http://paste.debian.net/) > And I thank you again. > > That was really easy! > > The message id is russell#1 Using a tiny amount of brute force to go back through the numbers

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 01:16:57 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > With the approx server, reinstallation is quick, and this being a > spare machine, there is no need to install a bunch of packages and set > up the desktop. Anyway, the installation is complete, and now I have > a pristine installa

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
there any errors in Console ([Ctrl+Shift+K])? A bunch.?? Too many for me to type. Right click on any entry allows to copy or to save all messages. I thank you. hint: http://paste.debian.net/) And I thank you again. That was really easy! The message id is russell#1 RLH

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On 18/11/2024 09:47, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: You may try to open Web Developer Tools (under "More tools" in the hamburger menu, [F12] or [Ctrl+Shift+I]). Are there any errors in Console ([Ctrl+Shift+K])? A bunch.  Too many for me

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:28:14PM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: I tested https://www.chewy.com/ on a clean install of FireFox ESR with no plugins and the site works fine. Try purging Firefox and reinstalling. sudo apt purge firefox-esr sudo apt install firefox-esr Google Chrome also wo

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 02:47:32 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > Hope, you did *not* log in into a Firefox account to sync bookmarks, > > add-ons, and some preferences. > > No, I did not. > > > > You may try to open Web Developer

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 09:18:27AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: Hope, you did *not* log in into a Firefox account to sync bookmarks, add-ons, and some preferences. No, I did not. You may try to open Web Developer Tools (under "More tools" in the hamburger menu, [F12] or [Ctrl+Shift+I]). Are t

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 02:21:20 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 08:33:25PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > https://www.iplocation.net/ip-lookup reports a location of Texas for > > this address, so server-side Geo IP blocking seems unlikely. > > A rural area a little sout

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
I tested https://www.chewy.com/ on a clean install of FireFox ESR with no plugins and the site works fine. Try purging Firefox and reinstalling. sudo apt purge firefox-esr sudo apt install firefox-esr Google Chrome also works fine with no issues as well. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The univer

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Max Nikulin
On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 01:16:57 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: The only customization I made was to install xfce rather than gnome. I am using the browser (Firefox ESR) which was installed automatically with the desktop (xfce). Hope, you did *not* log in into a Firefox account to sync bookma

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 02:06:12PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:39:36 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: I have here a spare machine. In the hope of resolving the matter in the company of experts, I propose to do another installation of Debian, using netinst with the "exp

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 02:41:24PM +, Andy Smith wrote: Anyway, as I think we all mostly agree, there is some misconfiguration going on here that is causing OP's web browsing experience on Debian to be compromised. I have here a spare machine. In the hope of resolving the matter in the com

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 17:39:36 + "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > I have here a spare machine. In the hope of resolving the matter in > the company of experts, I propose to do another installation of > Debian, using netinst with the "expert" option. Possibly this is overkill. Try shutting down yo

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Sunday 17 November 2024 12:11:37 pm Joe wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:47:20 -0600 > John Hasler wrote: > > > Joe writes: > > > Yep, if a web designer can't put a single character on a screen > > > without using JS, the rest of his offering is not likely to be worth > > > making an effort to

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread tomas
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 05:39:36PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 02:41:24PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Anyway, as I think we all mostly agree, there is some misconfiguration > > going on here that is causing OP's web browsing experience on Debian to > > be compromised.

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread John Hasler
Joe writes: > Yep, if a web designer can't put a single character on a screen > without using JS, the rest of his offering is not likely to be worth > making an effort to look at. They don't use JS. They use "website builders" that produce unreadable masses of HTML and JS that pull in chunks of J

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 03:24:55PM +, Joe wrote: > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024 09:30:20 -0500 > Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Except the OP in this thread claims he has never disabled Javascript > > (didn't even know what that *meant*), and in fact does not yet know > > what's causing the problem. >

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:30:20AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:34:00 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > I was the 'guy in England', but that's irrelevant because the problem > > there was sites that were discriminating based on the user-agent string > > s

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 09:34:00 +, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > "Russell L. Harris" wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list > > >all the ways the OP might have caused this to fai

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread Roger Price
On Sun, 17 Nov 2024, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: "Roy J. Tellason, Sr." wrote: ... if a web site wants to be *that* obnoxious I'll often decide that they're not worth the trouble of bothering with. :-) +1 My +1 as well, Roger

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread debian-user
"Roy J. Tellason, Sr." wrote: > I routinely get that "blank white page" result in firefox here, and > find that fiddling with the settings in the noscript plugin often > fixes it. OTOH, if a web site wants to be *that* obnoxious I'll > often decide that they're not worth the trouble of bothe

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-17 Thread debian-user
"Russell L. Harris" wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > >I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list > >all the ways the OP might have caused this to fail. > > > >We start by observing that nobody else has been able to reproduce the >

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Christian Britz
Am 16.11.24 um 05:42 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > If your Windows machine can run an ssh daemon that you can log into, > then you could use it as your SOCKS proxy, though I have no idea how > you'd go about setting up an sshd on Windows. Should not be to hard using Windows' built-in WSL (you can e

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 02:47:37PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: OK, add another item to the list: * Server-side blocking. Whether based on the client's IP address or user agent or cookies or any other data, the web server might be rejecting this client's requests specifically. If you go to an

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Saturday 16 November 2024 01:03:34 pm Greg Wooledge wrote: > > Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > > white page. > > I'

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 19:24:07 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list > > all the ways the OP might have caused this to fail. > > > > We start by observing that nobo

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:15:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: With javascript disabled for chewy,com I get a blank white page with Debian 12 and Firefox. Allowing javascript seems to result in a fully functional site. I know nothing about javascript; how do I "allow" javascript? Or, what did I d

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:03:34PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list all the ways the OP might have caused this to fail. We start by observing that nobody else has been able to reproduce the OP's failure. Two or three months ago,

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread eben
On 11/16/24 13:18, Russell L. Harris wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 01:15:17PM +, Andy Smith wrote: With javascript disabled for chewy,com I get a blank white page with Debian 12 and Firefox. Allowing javascript seems to result in a fully functional site. I know nothing about javascript; h

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Greg Wooledge
> Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 > machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com > web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank > white page. I've been thinking about this some more, and I'd like to try to list all the

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
On Sat, 2024-11-16 at 12:30 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > > Is there an easy way to send the message (or just the URL) to the > > Window$ machine? > > Use a pastebin? Setup mail in Windows? Connect to the Windows machine > via remote desktop and remotely use the browser the

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:33:21 -0500 Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > I get to the Chewy website with no issues using: Trixie, KDE and > Google Chrome browser. If you are getting a plain white screen on > Firefox then it is likely a firefox issue and not a debian issue. Try > installing Google Chrome

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Andy Smith
you an access from both machiens (paste the link in a message to yourself). Myself I have also made use of findfox: https://github.com/ayosec/findfox This allows me to send stuff to a running firefox from remote places. Example: $ findfox list L2hvbWUvYW5keS8ubW96aWxsYS9maXJlZm94L3ozeWk5dngz

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread tomas
e. Only one of the Debian machines is set up for mail. > > Now and then a mail message comes in to which I need to respond, but > the response link typically is a URL consisting of dozens of > characters, and it is the URL of a chewy.com web site or another web > site which is hosti

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Anssi Saari
machines is set up for mail. I actually did have that sort of issue some years ago, I think it was https://www.securew2.com/ and specifically Firefox. Works fine today on Debian 11, Firefox 115.14.0esr. Chewy.com too. > Now and then a mail message comes in to which I need to respond, but >

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-16 Thread Chris Green
add-ons, does it also have problems with > >this web site? Maybe it's something in your main account's configuration. > > Hi, Greg. I think it has to do with DRM; a couple of times I have > seen a message to that effect flash on the screen briefly and > disappear. >

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-15 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
; Now and then a mail message comes in to which I need to respond, but > the response link typically is a URL consisting of dozens of > characters, and it is the URL of a chewy.com web site or another web > site which is hostile to Debian. > > Is there an easy way to send the messa

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-15 Thread Russell L. Harris
it's something in your main account's configuration. Hi, Greg. I think it has to do with DRM; a couple of times I have seen a message to that effect flash on the screen briefly and disappear. One day I could access the web site on any of my Debian systems; the next day I got only a bla

debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-15 Thread Russell L. Harris
Debian machines are on the 192.168.1.xxx network. I keep a W10 machine on the 192.168.2.x network, primarily to access the chewy.com web site which, since about June, serves my Debian machines a blank white page. Only one of the Debian machines is set up for mail. Now and then a mail message

Re: debian-to-windows message transfer

2024-11-15 Thread Greg Wooledge
. chewy.com loads for me in Firefox, after I permit Javascript on that domain. > Is there an easy way to send the message (or just the URL) to the > Window$ machine? The first thing that comes to mind is using a SOCKS proxy over ssh. It's been a while since I've done that, but

objtool errors message while compiling the Kernel (was: Is the CPU microcode updated?)

2024-09-27 Thread Franco Martelli
On 26/09/24 at 14:53, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: A new microcode for your CPU should be inside of /usr/lib/firmware/amd-ucode/microcode_amd_fam15h.bin since it says 'family: 0x15' in your output. There is a little program on https://github.com/AMDESE/amd_ucode_info to look into the microcode fil

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-14 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 13 Sep 2024 17:53 -0400, from g...@wooledge.org (Greg Wooledge): > For the record, Debian 12 has vim 9.0.x and a /usr/share/vim/vim90/ > directory. According to ... oh, > that web page is not responding for me. Sorry, I can't check what > version(s) of Debian m

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 22:46:09 +, Andy Smith wrote: > I just ran crontab -e as a fresh user and it actually invoked > /usr/bin/sensible-editor and asked me which editor I wanted to use > (now and in future). So perhaps the man page for crontab is out of > date. Agreed. hobbit:~$ strings /us

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Will Mengarini
Or ... disambiguate which Vim crontab -e is using, so it's not vim.tiny. * Will Mengarini [24-09/13=Fri 15:47 -0700]: > You are getting Vim error messages from a version of Vim that does > not support scripting (probably vim.tiny). That version is probably > installed on your system ALONG WITH a

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Will Mengarini
You are getting Vim error messages from a version of Vim that does not support scripting (probably vim.tiny). That version is probably installed on your system ALONG WITH a version that does support scripting, but cron does not have the scripting version of Vim on PATH. (Typically, your $HOME & ro

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 06:12:02AM +0800, Marcus Park wrote: > either $EDITOR or $VISUAL in my system is empty. > > And /usr/bin/editor points to nano. Well, I do not really understand what is going on then as you are definitely running an editor that looks at vim config files, and nano won'

Re: unwanted crontab message

2024-09-13 Thread Marcus Park
Andy Smith : As to why whatever it is set as right now is doing that, first work out where it is getting the setting from, so echo $EDITOR and echo $VISUAL. If neither of those are set then ls -la /usr/bin/editor. Thanks Andy. either $EDITOR or $VISUAL in my system is empty. And /usr/bin/

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