Re: Stus-List 33 mk II Repowering- Nothing is ever easy.

2013-03-12 Thread Rich Knowles
Go, Gord, go! Nothing like a little challenge to get the creative juices flowing:) I can lend you my chainsaw if it will help? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-12, at 3:32, "Gord Tidmarsh" wrote: I'm in the throes of repowering a 1986 33 II. After much deliberation, I chose a Be

Re: Stus-List 33 mk II Repowering- Nothing is ever easy.

2013-03-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Unless the heat exchanger is welded onto the engine, can’t you just move it someplace else? Joe Della Barba Coquina ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List 33 mk II Repowering- Nothing is ever easy.

2013-03-12 Thread Paul Fountain
Gord, I installed the Beta 25 in our C&C 33-II a couple of years ago, other than cutting the support at the front of the engine cover box, relocating the oil filter, and having spacers made for the engine mounts it was an easy (close) fit. My boat is at 50 Point for the winter if you want t

Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread McElwreath, Daniel
Any guidance on following? Our (new for us) 1980 cc32 has a lovet bilge pump. But I believe it is wired so that it goes on automatically only if the pump switch on the bulkhead is switched to ON, But this means, the power to that switch has to be on, even when we are not on the boat. I am rel

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread Joel Aronson
Dan, It is a 3 position on/off/auto switch similar to this? http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/product.do?part=11093&engine=adwords!6456&keyword=product_ad_2627&type=pla If so, it should be left on auto. Joel 35/3 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:12 AM, McElwreath, Daniel wrote: > Any

Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread Robert Abbott
Dan, You have answered your own questionwire the bilge pump direct to the battery...make sure there is an inline fuse. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N.S. On 2013/03/12 10:12 AM, McElwreath, Daniel wrote: Any guidance on following? Our (new for us) 1980 cc32 has a lovet bilge p

Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Richard N. Bush
There's a 1979 Landfall 38 on ebay; http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1979-C-C-Landfall38-/251239442910?pt=Sailboats&hash=item3a7f09a9de The info says its in Accomac, Virginia; anyone know anything about it? Any known or common "issues" with the 1979 model? The owner's description goes int

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread McElwreath, Daniel
No, just a toggle with center position off, push to the right and pump goes on but you have to hold it on, push to left and it stays in that position. From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf of Joel Aronson [joel.aron...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Wow - what a price! Nice boat From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:20 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay There's a 1979 Landfall 38 on e

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread McElwreath, Daniel
You know, I am just thinking that maybe the pump is wired directly to the battery but I have never left the toggle in the ON position when I nleft the boat. I will have to try that , fill the bilge with some water, then turn off the power, but leave the toggle in the on position. _

Re: Stus-List 33 mk II Repowering- Nothing is ever easy.

2013-03-12 Thread Richard N. Bush
Gord; what was the cause for the repower? (he asked nervously...) Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Gord Tidmarsh To: cnc-list Sent: Tue, Mar 12, 2013 2:33 am Su

Re: Stus-List 33 mk II Repowering- Nothing is ever easy.

2013-03-12 Thread Rich Knowles
Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-12, at 10:25, "Richard N. Bush" wrote: Gord; what was the cause for the repower? (he asked nervously...) Richard 1987 33-II Richard N. Bush Law Offices 235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor Louisville, Kentucky 40202 502-584-7255 -Origina

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread dwight veinot
I agree you want it straight to the battery and also maybe parallel to the switch.but straight to the battery will turn it on when the float switch in the bilge activates it. Make sure to put an inline fuse in series with the power line (+) at the battery terminal Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII,

Stus-List Repowering

2013-03-12 Thread Rich Knowles
An FYI that I still have a low hour Yanmar 3QM30 looking for a welcoming bilge. 4 grand. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread Andrew Burton
I just did the test on my boat. With the battery switch off, I toggled the 3-way bilge pump switch from AUTO to ON. I wanted to check if the pump was hard wired to the 12 V system. The pump came on, so I know that if I leave it to AUTO when everything's off, it will still pump the bilge. I could al

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread McElwreath, Daniel
All, thanks for info. I am going to make sure there is a fuse, but the PO did a prettgy good job whenever he upgraded, so I think there will be one. Then I will test with power off and switch on. Thanks. From: CnC-List [cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] on behalf

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons................

2013-03-12 Thread David Knecht
The dye is to distinguish fuels by their taxation. Marine diesel is not subject to road tax so is dyed red. That does not mean it is cheaper due to state taxes or supply/demand "In United States of America, the Environmental Protection Agency mandates use of a red dye to identify high-sulfur f

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread Dennis C.
Dan, When I install/wire bilge pumps with float switch, I use a Rule #43 or Blue Sea 8263 rocker switch with built in fuse.  I wire the power to the switch to the back of the main battery switch (Perko) to the post for either the #1 or #2 battery.  Functionally, it's wired to the battery but is

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons................

2013-03-12 Thread David Knecht
I found this really good description of the issues on http://www.enertechlabs.com/nrlm.htm As of June 1st, 2007 refiners and distributors of Non-Road or Off-Highway Diesel, which is designated NRLM will be required by the US EPA to dramatically reduce the sulfur content in these fuels. Diesel F

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons................

2013-03-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe
AFAIK there are several companies selling additives to correct these issues. Joe Della Barba ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons................

2013-03-12 Thread sam . c . salter
When ULSD came to Canada I had concerns and did some research. Some of the info on the Web was contradictory so to be on the safe side I started adding a lubricity enhancer. $20 for a big bottle from NAPA. I sail on a lake and don't use a lot of diesel - 1 tank lasts at least 3 seasons.So I top up

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread dwight veinot
A small fuse, 2-5 amp I suggest.it protects the wire from overheat not the pump so close to the battery terminal Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of McElwreath, Daniel Sent: March 1

Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons................

2013-03-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe
http://www.stanadyne.com/view.php?id=45 Joe Della Barba From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of sam.c.sal...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:14 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Engine Control Panels NOw Deisel fuel comparisons..

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-12 Thread Ken Heaton
As nobody seems to know what to call a C&C 37 XL (or is it a C&C 37/40 XL?, or is it a C&C 40 XL?) the sailmaker probably just decided to leave the designation off. Ken H. On 11 March 2013 23:05, Pat Nevitt wrote: > That is just like the one on my North main except under the logo in > smaller

Re: Stus-List Sail logo

2013-03-12 Thread dwight veinot
What does the designation "XL" signify? And the R in 34R or 37R, does it mean "racer" Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ken Heaton Sent: March 12, 2013 1:28 PM To: Pat Nevitt Cc

Re: Stus-List 34 and 37 XL vs + vs R

2013-03-12 Thread Edd Schillay
Dwight, There were three models of the 34 and 37 in the late 80's/early 90's. The 34R and the 37R were bother racing versions, with very spartan interiors The 34+ and 37+ were cruiser/racers with walk-around queen beds in the aft cabins and more robust interio

Stus-List Square drives, electrical and reverse polarity

2013-03-12 Thread Dennis C.
Following up on the square drive thread and kind of sailing related. Just coincidentally, as part of a house wide renovation, I am changing out electrical switches and receptacles today.  I am using a regular 8 way screwdriver with small slotted blade to remove the old switches and receptacles

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Lee Youngblood
Why didn't he list it with a broker? Looks like someone will get a deal. . . Wow - what a price! Nice boat From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Richard N. Bush Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 10:20 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Lan

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Joel Aronson
Most brokers don't want to be bothered with a boat that old and inexpensive for a 10% commission. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Lee Youngblood wrote: > Why didn't he list it with a broker? Looks like someone will get a deal. > . . > > > Wow - what a price! Nice boat >

Re: Stus-List 34 and 37 XL vs + vs R

2013-03-12 Thread Ken Heaton
Edd is correct but I'll add a further note or two. The "further amenities" on the XL were to give the fully fitted out "cruising" 37+ versions some of the "racing" features of the 37R version. Most (perhaps all) XL's have the slightly taller, three spreader masts normally found on the "R" with ru

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Della Barba, Joe
Either that boat has some nasty hidden flaw or I am very depressed right now. My boat must be worth about $5.97 Joe Della Barba Coquina -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Lee Youngblood Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:14 PM To: cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Michael Dean
That is just an opening bid. Seller has a hidden reserve price which has not yet been met. What it sells for, if it does sell on e-bay, will be higher than that opening bid. Could be a great bargain or not depending on what the final bid is and what the reserve is. If the reserve isn't met, ow

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Buy it now price is I think 21K -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Dean Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:48 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay That is just an opening bid. Seller has

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Sutherland
The Buy it now is $21500. Pretty great deal. Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Dean Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:47:39 To: Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay That is just an opening bid.  Seller has a hidden reserve price which has no

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
it has a buy it now price of $21,500 -- Original Message -- From: "Michael Dean" To: Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:47:39 -0400 That is just an opening bid. Seller has a hidden reserve price which has not yet been met. What i

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Joel Aronson
Joe, Resale value only matters when you sell! If you enjoy your boat, its priceless! Joel On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > Either that boat has some nasty hidden flaw or I am very depressed right > now. My boat must be worth about $5.97 > > Joe Della Barba Coquina >

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Rich Knowles
I must say these low prices are disappointing, to say the least. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-03-12, at 15:51, "Greg Sutherland " wrote: The Buy it now is $21500. Pretty great deal. Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Michael Dean Date: Tue,

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Dennis C.
Joe, I'll give you $10.97!.but only if it has a full tank of good fuel.   :) Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA > > From: "Della Barba, Joe" >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:39 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread dwight veinot
She looks pretty good in the photos, seems like a good buy from here but I think this design has a cored hull and that would need to be in good condition. Diesel power seems OK. If I were in the market this would interest me Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

Re: Stus-List Roberts screwdrivers

2013-03-12 Thread Jeff Nelson
And of course LeeValleyTools.com http://www.leevalley.com/en/Wood/page.aspx?cat=1,43411&p=43417 Fill your boots...you can get pretty much any style you like. -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 Armdale Y.C. Halifax On 12/03/2013 2:17 AM, Marek Dziedzic wrote: or try b

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread dwight veinot
She looks pretty good in the photos, seems like a good buy from here but I think this design has a cored hull and that would need to be in good condition. Diesel power seems OK. If I were in the market this would interest me Dwight Veinot C&C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, N

Stus-List Accomac, VA

2013-03-12 Thread TOM VINCENT
Accomac is located on the Eastern Shore of Virginia, it is about 20 miles south of Pocomoke, MD which is south of Salisbury, MD which is about 8 miles south of Del Mar, DE. I hope this helps. Tom Frolic II 36' C&C cb Chesapeake City, MD ___

Re: Stus-List 34 and 37 XL vs + vs R

2013-03-12 Thread Josh Muckley
The R had a much taller mast and deeper keel with the spartan interior and open transom. The XL actually had almost the exact same interior as the +, but with a taller mast and deeper keel that was about half way between the + and the R. Josh -- When security matters. http://www.secure-my-email.

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread jtsails
The LF 38 is a very unusual design, great, well proven, fast, IOR style hull with a cruiser's interior. The result seemed to me to be extremely tight quarters down below. some people love it, more hated it. I looked at 4 or 5 of them when I was in the market and despite my best efforts, I fell i

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Joe Della Barba
I re-read the specs. The boat recently has at least $10K of electronics and at LEAST 10 more in sails and interior and they want 20? I am tempted so bad. Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of j

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Chris Price
Joe, I paid much less than the starting bid for Pradel 13 years ago. I just plan on holding on to her 'til after I'm gone and she's the kid's problem! Chris Price Pradel C & C 35 MkI p.s. spent the night on the boat last night to wire some new LED interior lights . It was like a tropical sto

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump

2013-03-12 Thread Chuck S
Dennis, That's a nice bilge pump switch. Our boat's bilge is flat and has no sump, so we pump it down as far as possible before each sail. Otherwise we get water running up over the floorboard edges when she heels. Sometimes I forget during the rush to get everything set before leaving the doc

Re: Stus-List lovet bilge pump - now float switches

2013-03-12 Thread Dennis C.
Also, I am switching over to Ultra Safety Systems bilge float switch when clients are willing to pop for a few extra $$$.  I think they are better switches than the Rule float switches.  More less subject to trash, etc. http://www.tefgel.com/contain.php?param=pumpswitch_price Haven't put one in

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Dave Godwin
Joe, That boat's just down the road from you. You should go take a look. Although we all know that small on-line photos which can make a rotten old log-canoe look like like a new AC Cup boat, it is an intriguing sell. And we know too that older electronics have no currency but still, there's a

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Joe Della Barba
There’s that – I’d have 2 boats sooner than I had planned. Good thing I have 2 spots – have to rotate them :) Joe Della Barba j...@dellabarba.com From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Chris Price Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:57 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sub

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Joe Della Barba
We just might. My wife LOVES the LF38 layout. Last one we looked at for $49K, described as a great boat, had: Leaking fuel tank Reeked of diesel Reeked of mold Hatches leaked The cabin sides had swollen and split aft of the ports. It was barely worth scrap value IMHO. I am still trying to get putt

Stus-List Bottom paint stripper

2013-03-12 Thread Rich Knowles
Has anyone tried any new chemistry for removing bottom paint? Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Fwd: C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Martin DeYoung
>> I am still trying to get putting new sails, paint, interior, radar, etc. on a boat and then selling her for the cost of what you just added. << I expect many tired boat owners reach a point where the monthly care, feeding, and moorage costs drive them to sell at almost any price. A few may ha

Stus-List C&C 38 Landfall on ebay

2013-03-12 Thread Robert Abbott
And then there are those that buy a bigger boat before they sell their smaller boatthat was the situation we ran into when looking for a boat.the PO bought a new Dufour 38' and just wanted his old C&C 'disposed of'. We were happy to oblige him. Bob Abbott AZURA C&C 32 - 84 Halifax, N