I have a 26 with a single cylinder SB8 that is not able to push the boat to
hull speed easily in wind and chop. Has anyone specs on what prop should be
on the boat, and any possible upgrades. The current prop is a 2 blade fixed,
unsure of the specs. I cruise more than race, and seem to wind up mot
Allen,
I've got a C&C 26, but mine has a Yanmar 2GM20F with a 3 blade fixed, so it's
not standard.
It will drive it to hull speed.
If it's any help, my original 1977 manual says standard engine in the C&C 26
was a Westerbeke Vire or an optional Yanmar SVE 8 diesel. Transmission was 2:1
reductio
The response to the survey has been good. I think we should let it run for
a little while longer before posting the results.
I have a favor to ask those of you who may be members of sailing related
forums. Would you please start a thread and post this link? We are hoping
to reach some C&C desig
Done for SA.
Joe Della Barba
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The response to the survey has been good. I think we should let
Done for CA
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Della Barba, Joe
wrote:
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Done for SailNet.
Joe Della Barba
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Done for CA
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Della Barba,
I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both from
the pole.
He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is worth
it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for reaching).
But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda
I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake? I could see getting a rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J. Can't see why using an asym with standard pole would hurt his rating? Is he mounting the po
I'm a little surprised too. We are assuming the pole = J. I don't know if
asyms are necessarily smaller. There are some big-axx Code 0's out there.
The penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam
reach.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S wrote:
Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.
I know when I stretch back Calypso's 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight reach
the clew is back where a 160 - 170% headsails would be.
Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle
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Nope, the pole is the same - off the mast. And, an asym for racing can be just
as big as a regular spinnaker (probably not as much sail area, but longer in
the luff and the same on the foot). There's a formula the PHRF (ChesBay) uses.
I haven't looked at it in detail. He said that in some other
Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late '60's
(friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and made it with
a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an asym.
Gary
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I can do CF.
Colin
On 2/13/13, Della Barba, Joe wrote:
> Done for SailNet.
>
> Joe Della Barba
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> Burton
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I fondly recall sitting to leeward holding the drifter's clew by hand while
going backwards in the current. Sometimes this was in the fog or late at
night. Often when is was 0dark 30, cold and damp and I was changing back and
forth between a drifter and a ½ oz spinny I would longingly gaze tow
Can your SB8 achieve full rated RPM either in calm or choppy conditions?
Calypso's 3 blade MAX prop was intentionally over pitched (by 10%) for many
years. I did this to allow calm water hull speed at an engine RPM "smooth
spot". Worked fine for most PNW inland waters.
For our trip around Vanc
An asym doesn't need to be smaller - there are some huge VMG versions I've
seen, in particular on a PHRF-optimized J/109 in Boston, and if you can get
it to rotate out in front of the boat you can go pretty deep too. The
measurement standard is 180% mid girth, like regular spinnakers.
The penalty
Allen
my 1978 C&C 26 has a RH 11D X 7P X 3/4 prop
also powered by an SB8
Not the fastest boat in the herd by any means .Can't offer any go fast
advice but what speed are you getting (flat water no wind ) I usually
manage 4.5 kts
On 13/02/2013 6:38 AM, Allen White wrote:
I have a 26 with a
We have a 1/2 oz Drifter on Corsair that was made in 1971 that is always
on the boat. I can make a knot of boat speed with a knot of wind with
it. It has a wire luff that we can fly with the 150 rolled up. This
sail needs to be on the deck if the wind makes 8 knots true, but between
3 and 6
Gee Rob...you sure have some pull around here!!
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
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To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List C&C Northeast Rendezvous 2013
The response to the survey has been good. I think we should let it run f
Neil
Did you ever use your blooper or staysail? I was wondering if either of
these would have a use in light air, either used as the only headsail off
the wind. I am planning to try that next summer.
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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From:
I remember more than one Swiftsure when the conditions were too light for the
drifter so we shifted to the Dazy staysail and started passing boats.
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
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On Feb 13, 2013, at
Maybe the only reason you were passing them was the Dazy staysail slowed your
rate of "negative VMG" (drift backwards owing to current).
Martin
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:48
I would love to have a blooper for Peregrine. We have a round the island race
here and one side is generally DDW. I can only imagine the looks I'd get when I
hoisted it...and I have enough friends who are old enough that they know how to
fly one!
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA
No I think it was small enough that it didn't close off the slot and stop our
forward progress.
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
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On Feb 13, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Martin DeYoung wrote:
> Maybe the only r
you wrote:
Tim, this might be an opportunity to get creative;
Yup, check out the options. I can honestly say that redesigning the
stern rails and adding seats was one of the most wonderful improvements
to my cockpit. It doubled the effective space. The trick, of course,
is to make it fit t
IIRC correctly bloopers prefer better than light air to be effective. I would
guess 10 TWS and up may be successful. While I was involved in many odd
blooper configurations I do not recall sheeting it like a headsail.
There is an oft repeated line regarding bloopers (and staysails): They are ½
Blooper - the only sail you trim with the halyard. Guess I'm old.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>
> From: Andrew Burton
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com"
>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:58 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
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>
>I woul
Um. Uh Oh, Here I go. (gee, that rhymes, maybe I'm a cowboy poet after
all.)
There once was a "Dictionary Of Common Usage" published back in the
1970's. It sold well. It was back when the stuffed shirts wouldn't
recognize "ain't" as a word. In response, the Oxford English Dictionary
now
Several weeks ago I asked a question on the forum and there were several
responses, basically no one really knows the answer. My question was, what
penalty would I incur by adding a bow sprit to my foredeck for flying the
asymmetrical spinnaker. I had purchased a Forespar sprit at the Annapolis
Tom,
WHy was the sock ineffective? I'm thinking of getting one, mostly for
cruising.
You are right. There will likely be a penalty, but no one knows what it
will be. I suspect the longer the pole the greater the penalty. I've done
inside and outside gybes without a pole. The outside is easie
Tom,
As another Chesapeake sailor I can understand your question. The best thing
you could do would be to contact your local handicapper. While he can't
give you a definitive answer, he might be able to give you an idea of which
direction your rating might change and a rough amount. It's alw
Tom,
My local PHRF committee has addressed the issue of adding a sprit to a
non-sprit boat. I sent you a copy, OFFLIST, of the minutes of their last
meeting where a modification was made to the applicable rule.
Dennis C.
>
> From: TOM VINCENT
>To: C&C Foru
Tom, I'd like to see a photo of that sail!
Richard
1987 33-II
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor
Louisville, Kentucky 40202
502-584-7255
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From: TOM VINCENT
To: C&C Forum
Sent: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 9:32 pm
Subject: Stus-List Handicap R
Tom;
I thought that one of the Chessie sailors had indicated that the penalty for
a long pole in Chessie Phrf was -3 for a pole longer than J but less than
110% of J, and -6 for a pole longer than 110% or more of J.
I've spent the last half hour reading the documents on the Chessie PHRF
sit
Don't most boats with A-chutes have a pole extended beyond the bow? That would be the 3sec/mi since that's the penalty for a J less than 10% longer.RonWild CheriC&C 30STL--- On Wed, 2/13/13, Chuck S wrote:From: Chuck S Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap reviewTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comDate: Wednesday
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