Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread Andrew Burton
A problem some boats have is that they don't last as well as others. You see lots of C&Cs of our boat's vintage around and looking really good, Jack. Not so much when you get to Hunters. That's not to say that Hunters don't fulfill their design brief, they do, very well. But that design brief isn'

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread HONEYSAIL
Our firm exports yachts worldwide for both Catalina & Hunter ( now Marlow-Hunter) and you would be surprised at the number of these boats per year that are purchased by foreign owners, commissioned in the USA and sailed as far away as Australia, New Zealand, North Europe and all thru the M

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread Colin Kilgour
On Catalinas, Eric said... "Would I sail them across an ocean? No, but they were not made for that." Really??? I'm not a particular fan of Catalinas myself, but they do provide a lot of boat for the buck. And yes, they do sail across oceans. From my own observations, I would say you'll see way

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread Dave Godwin
t@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices > > If I had only known. I was 6 years old in 1969. > > Joe Della Barba > Coquina. > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight > veinot > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread dwight veinot
Used boat prices If I had only known. I was 6 years old in 1969. Joe Della Barba Coquina. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices Sh

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe
If I had only known. I was 6 years old in 1969. Joe Della Barba Coquina. From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:25 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices Should have bought 2 houses, sell

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread dwight veinot
ary 20, 2013 9:53 AM To: Dennis C.; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices My house cost $34,000 when we moved to Maryland and we paid $35,000 for Coquina in 1977. For ages her insured value was $55,000. I have paid the marina $36,000 or so for a slip since 2001 (arghhh

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread Della Barba, Joe
...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 8:46 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices I paid $10 (yep, ten dollars) less for Touche' in 1999 than it cost new in 1971. Somewhere in the early 80's, the previous owner had secu

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-20 Thread Dennis C.
, Joe" >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:08 PM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices > > >To depress everyone more – we paid more for Coquina than we paid for our house >AND she *appreciated* in value over the next f

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Joel Aronson
Even though I love my boat if someone offered me 44 k I'd think seriously about selling. I don't think I could get more than 35 for her. I hope the owner gets his price! Joel Aronson 35/3 Annapolis On Feb 20, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Russ & Melody wrote: A sailing colleague is entertaining an offe

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Russ & Melody
A sailing colleague is entertaining an offer on his 35 mk-3, moored at Schooner Cove, for less than this one. And it is nicely fitted out for cruising with full canvas, cabin heat, pressure water, radar, solar, etc. I think the only want to be an electric windlass. He owned her for two years

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Tim Goodyear
http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/C%26C-35-MKIII-2569680/Detroit/MI/United-States Anyone we know? It's hard to tell based on the specs whether this is a bare hull, or the quick to sell model with ST60's... Tim Mojito C&C 35-3 Branford, CT On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Wally Bryant wrote:

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Wally Bryant
Eric - Right. Catalina makes different models of the same size boat for different applications. I never meant to insult anyone, and have a hard time believing that I did. I'm actually very experienced in inadvertent insults. Why, just the other day I was talking with someone who was having

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Eric Baumes
As a former Catalina 30 owner it was interesting to observe that the spread between a bare hull and a nicely outfitted one is very small. As there are so many, the market seems to dictate a price. As the broker said when I was selling--all the goodies won't get you any more money, they just mean yo

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Wally Bryant
Umm, perhaps my spam filter deleted the messages, but the only message on this thread that I saw was the one I posted about the Catalina I knew that sold in two weeks. I think I praised the boat and the previous owner. Wal Marek Dziedzic wrote: It is interesting that the discussion on boat p

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic
It is interesting that the discussion on boat prices outed a few Catalina owners (who admitted freely to having one either currently or in the past). I distinctly remember the talk down of any Catalina boats a few months ago on this list. For the sake of the full disclosure, I have to say that I ow

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic
When I bought my C&C 24 (7 years ago), the cost (at least the way I calculated it) covered the sails, the motor and the barrier paint. The hull, mast and rigging and all additional equipment were all thrown in for free (or possibly at a negative value). Marek In Ottawa

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe
To depress everyone more – we paid more for Coquina than we paid for our house AND she *appreciated* in value over the next few years quite a bit. Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoal

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-19 Thread HONEYSAIL
Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of _HONEYSAIL@aol.com_ (mailto:honeys...@aol.com) Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:37 PM To: _cnc-list@cnc-list.com_ (mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com) Subje

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Sam Salter
boating without 2nd mortgage > we may see a growing base of younger boaters to fill in behind us older long > term boaters. > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > Seattle > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of > honeys...@aol.com > Se

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Martin DeYoung
boaters. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of honeys...@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:37 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Used boat prices In spite of what the politicians and media say ab

Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread HONEYSAIL
y 18, 2013 6:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices I had a local broker approach me on behalf of a guy that wants to buy my boat. I said what is he willing to pay net to me? He told me. I laughed and said that I spent more than his offer in the past 18

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Martin DeYoung
I keep going back. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Steve Thomas Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices The cost of ownership,

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII Port Stanley, ON -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]On Behalf Of honeys...@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices I had a local broker approach me on behalf

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread HONEYSAIL
Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of honeys...@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices I had a

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Martin DeYoung
rtin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of honeys...@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices I had a local broker approach me on beh

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread HONEYSAIL
ge- > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich > Knowles > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:18 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices > > Maybe this is someone adhering to the "sucker born every m

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Graham Collins
rage 33 Or maybe it was a 24 that is guaranteed to win every race -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich Knowles Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:18 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices Maybe this

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Andrew Burton
sociated a much higher emotional value to than the used boat > market would support. On New Years Day 2014 we will have another > "ownership meeting" and chart out the next 12 to 18 months. > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > Seattle > > -Origin

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Martin DeYoung
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:24 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices There seem to be a lot of folks disconnected from the market right now... Locally, there is an older gentleman who has a nice-but-needs-TLC Tartan 34. When he said he no longer uses it and slip fees

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Jack Brennan
C 25 Fort Lauderdale, Fl. -Original Message- From: Rick Brass Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:23 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices There seem to be a lot of folks disconnected from the market right now... Locally, there is an older gentleman who h

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Wally Bryant
This boat just sold in two weeks for asking price: I know another boat (Valiant 40) that just sold for 1/3 it's value, but it was in New Zealand, and where do you go from there? Location Location Location... a

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Jim Watts
ow away the boat > ... > > .. and a C&C 25 is one heck of a lot more boat than a Mirage 24! > > > > -- > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark > G > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2013 1:11 PM > > *

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Hoyt, Mike
list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices Colin, Your post reminded me of a C&C 25 I saw for sale a while back. Similar situation, a boat you can typically get for less than $5k in these parts going for $17.5k. I wasn't surprised to see it's still for sale

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Mark G
this boat. If anyone knows, please post. Mark - Original Message - From: Colin Kilgour To: C&C List Sent: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:58:24 - (UTC) Subject: Stus-List Used boat prices I know we've all been shocked at the deflation in used boat prices recently. If you're a buyer, it&#

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Colin Kilgour
13 11:30 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices > > > It only hurts if you're selling, or moving down in size. > The answer is to buy a bigger boat right now! > Ron > Wild Cheri > C&C 30 > STL > > > --- On Mon, 2/18/1

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Ed Dooley
ger costs end up in > an early end to a life of sailing. > > my 0.02 > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Ronald B. > Frerker > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:30 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Ed Dooley
And you won't ne able to stand up in any of the half dozen. :-) Ed (who paid $3,600 for a C&C 24 on a trailer, all in good shape, 4 years ago) On Feb 18, 2013, at 9:18 AM, Rich Knowles wrote: > Maybe this is someone adhering to the "sucker born every minute" school of > sales. It sure is hard

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Hoyt, Mike
lf Of Ronald B. Frerker Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:30 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices It only hurts if you're selling, or moving down in size. The answer is to buy a bigger boat right now! Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 STL --- On Mon, 2/18/13, Colin

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
It only hurts if you're selling, or moving down in size.The answer is to buy a bigger boat right now!RonWild CheriC&C 30STL --- On Mon, 2/18/13, Colin Kilgour wrote: From: Colin Kilgour Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Monday, February 18, 2013

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Colin Kilgour
Jack Brennan > Shanachie, 1974 Bristol 30 > Former C&C 25 > Fort Lauderdale, Fl. > > -Original Message- > From: Colin Kilgour > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:36 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices > > I suspect it&#x

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Rick Brass
-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Colin Kilgour Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:58 AM To: C&C List Subject: Stus-List Used boat prices I know we've all been shocked at the deflation in used boat prices recently. If you're a buyer, it's a great market. If you're a sell

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Jack Brennan
iginal Message- From: Colin Kilgour Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 9:36 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices I suspect it's more the "my boat is special" phenomenon. Anyway, I just thought it was funny. If any lister is interested in the boat at that p

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Colin Kilgour
I suspect it's more the "my boat is special" phenomenon. Anyway, I just thought it was funny. If any lister is interested in the boat at that price, contact me off list and I'll sell you my swamp land in Florida, too! Cheers Colin On 2/18/13, Rich Knowles wrote: > Maybe this is someone adherin

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Hoyt, Mike
maybe its Harry's Mirage? From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis C. Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:32 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices It's not real..it's a mirage

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Rich Knowles
Groan:) Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-18, at 10:32, "Dennis C." wrote: It's not real..it's a mirage. :) Dennis C. From: "Hoyt, Mike" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boa

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Dennis C.
It's not real..it's a mirage.  :) Dennis C. > > From: "Hoyt, Mike" >To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:24 AM >Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat prices > >I am hoping it was a Mirag

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Used boat prices Maybe this is someone adhering to the "sucker born every minute" school of sales. It sure is hard times for selling. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-18, at 9:58, Colin Kilgour wrote: I know we've all been shocked at the deflation in used boat price

Re: Stus-List Used boat prices

2013-02-18 Thread Rich Knowles
Maybe this is someone adhering to the "sucker born every minute" school of sales. It sure is hard times for selling. Rich Knowles Indigo. LF38 Halifax On 2013-02-18, at 9:58, Colin Kilgour wrote: I know we've all been shocked at the deflation in used boat prices recently. If you're a buyer,