On Catalinas, Eric said...   "Would I sail them across an ocean? No, but
they were not made for that."

Really??? I'm not a particular fan of Catalinas myself, but they do provide
a lot of boat for the buck.

And yes, they do sail across oceans.  From my own observations, I would say
you'll see way more Catalinas out on bluewater passages than you will
C&C's.  (Let's say by a factor of 10 to 20).

I think we need to get past this stereotype that boats with large
production runs aren't suitable for offshore.  You see lots of Catalinas
out on the big blue wobbly stuff.  And you also see lots of Beneteaus, for
that matter.  Those boats generally are pretty much going to survive nasty
offshore conditions.  Where they suffer is in crew comfort offshore.  The
flat hull sections, plumb bows, wide open spaces below, massive V-berth,
etc.   Those all can make the crew's life crappy at sea, but the boat will
get to its destination.

Cheers,
Colin


On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Eric Baumes <eric.bau...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a former Catalina 30 owner it was interesting to observe that the
> spread between a bare hull and a nicely outfitted one is very small. As
> there are so many, the market seems to dictate a price. As the broker said
> when I was selling--all the goodies won't get you any more money, they just
> mean your boat will sell faster. i.e. the difference between 20 year old
> Datamarine and new ST60s wouldn't budge the price but would make your boat
> more attractive and may only be on the market 6 months :).
>
> As to knocking Catalinas, I owned two and never had a complaint. Would I
> sail them across an ocean? No, but they were not made for that. They were
> decent sailing boats and offered a lot of boat for the $. Also the factory
> support even for a 20 year old model is great.
>
> There, I am out of the closet...
>
> Eric
> 34/36
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Wally Bryant <w...@wbryant.com> wrote:
>
>> Umm, perhaps my spam filter deleted the messages, but the only message on
>> this thread that I saw was the one I posted about the Catalina I knew that
>> sold in two weeks.  I think I praised the boat and the previous owner.
>>
>> Wal
>>
>>
>> Marek Dziedzic wrote:
>>
>>> It is interesting that the discussion on boat prices outed a few Catalina
>>> owners (who admitted freely to having one either currently or in the
>>> past).
>>> I distinctly remember the talk down of any Catalina boats a few months
>>> ago
>>> on this list. For the sake of the full disclosure, I have to say that I
>>> own
>>> one, as well.
>>>
>>> Apparently, even if you appreciate the quality and lines of a C&C, you
>>> might
>>> be a closet Catalina owner. (-;)
>>>
>>
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