A problem some boats have is that they don't last as well as others. You see lots of C&Cs of our boat's vintage around and looking really good, Jack. Not so much when you get to Hunters.
That's not to say that Hunters don't fulfill their design brief, they do, very well. But that design brief isn't the same as our boats. And, not to get a fight started, but part of the design brief for C&Cs was that the boat had to be pretty; look at the beautiful sheer on a 39; look at the elegant transition from straight to curved on the stem, and look at how well the stern works with the rest of the lines. You just can't say that for a Hunter. A Hunter is a very roomy, more entry-level, simple boat that can be used as a dockside condo exceptionally well and will give its owners pleasure sailing along on coastal hops. I'll say as a delivery skipper who has pushed a LOT of really bad boats offshore and even across the pond, that I would much rather be aboard a C&C than a Hunter or Catalina offshore, but I would still accept the job of moving either pretty much anywhere, if the boat was well-maintained. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 11:44 AM, <honeys...@aol.com> wrote: > ** > Our firm exports yachts worldwide for both Catalina & Hunter ( now > Marlow-Hunter) and you would be surprised at the number of these boats per > year that are purchased by foreign owners, commissioned in the USA and > sailed as far away as Australia, New Zealand, North Europe and all thru the > Mediterranean as well as both coasts of South America and every Island in > the Caribbean. I know for a fact that Catalina & Hunter Yachts must be safe > sea boats to sail these distances on their on bottoms. > > Jack Fitzgerald C&C 39TM > HONEY > US12788 > > In a message dated 2/20/2013 11:35:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > charliekilo...@gmail.com writes: > > On Catalinas, Eric said... "Would I sail them across an ocean? No, > but they were not made for that." > > Really??? I'm not a particular fan of Catalinas myself, but they do > provide a lot of boat for the buck. > > And yes, they do sail across oceans. From my own observations, I would > say you'll see way more Catalinas out on bluewater passages than you will > C&C's. (Let's say by a factor of 10 to 20). > > I think we need to get past this stereotype that boats with large > production runs aren't suitable for offshore. You see lots of Catalinas > out on the big blue wobbly stuff. And you also see lots of Beneteaus, for > that matter. Those boats generally are pretty much going to survive nasty > offshore conditions. Where they suffer is in crew comfort offshore. The > flat hull sections, plumb bows, wide open spaces below, massive V-berth, > etc. Those all can make the crew's life crappy at sea, but the boat will > get to its destination. > > Cheers, > Colin > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:18 PM, Eric Baumes <eric.bau...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> As a former Catalina 30 owner it was interesting to observe that the >> spread between a bare hull and a nicely outfitted one is very small. As >> there are so many, the market seems to dictate a price. As the broker said >> when I was selling--all the goodies won't get you any more money, they just >> mean your boat will sell faster. i.e. the difference between 20 year old >> Datamarine and new ST60s wouldn't budge the price but would make your boat >> more attractive and may only be on the market 6 months :). >> >> As to knocking Catalinas, I owned two and never had a complaint. Would I >> sail them across an ocean? No, but they were not made for that. They were >> decent sailing boats and offered a lot of boat for the $. Also the factory >> support even for a 20 year old model is great. >> >> There, I am out of the closet... >> >> Eric >> 34/36 >> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Wally Bryant <w...@wbryant.com> wrote: >> >>> Umm, perhaps my spam filter deleted the messages, but the only message >>> on this thread that I saw was the one I posted about the Catalina I knew >>> that sold in two weeks. I think I praised the boat and the previous owner. >>> >>> Wal >>> >>> >>> Marek Dziedzic wrote: >>> >>>> It is interesting that the discussion on boat prices outed a few >>>> Catalina >>>> owners (who admitted freely to having one either currently or in the >>>> past). >>>> I distinctly remember the talk down of any Catalina boats a few months >>>> ago >>>> on this list. For the sake of the full disclosure, I have to say that I >>>> own >>>> one, as well. >>>> >>>> Apparently, even if you appreciate the quality and lines of a C&C, you >>>> might >>>> be a closet Catalina owner. 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