In spite of what the politicians and media say about the economy improving  
I continue to see more & more sail boats and now powers boats on the hook 
in  our local waterway and our local marinas are having real issues with 
abandoned  boats as well. These are folks that have held on since 2007 and have 
finally  realized that they can no longer afford dockage. I always look at 
the waterline  on boats when I walk around the docks here in Savannah and I 
am completely  amazed at the large number of sail boats that seemed to have 
grown to the  floating docks. The large majority of these boats cannot get 
underway due to  marine growth and that is only what I can see from the dock, 
I can only imagine  how the bottoms look. What happens if they have to 
evacuate due to a hurricane? 
 
 
Also, when discussing bottom jobs (we are in a semi-tropical environment  
with summer time water temps in the high 80's to low 90's) at our local 
sailing  club, I hear many folks actually brag about going 3+ years between 
bottom  jobs and when they do paint the bottom it between tides on a sand bar. 
If 
that a  sign of the boating economy of just the usual cheap sailor 
attitude? Also, these  are the same folks that complain about their ratings 
time & 
time again when  they find themselves, as usual at the back of our constantly 
declining racing  fleets. Maybe PHRF should allow time for barnacles, sea 
grapes as well a general  lack of bottom maintenance?
 
HONEY
US12788
Savannah, GA
 
 
In a message dated 2/18/2013 6:24:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sthom...@sympatico.ca writes:

The cost of ownership, after the initial  purchase, has not gone down at 
all as far as I can see. 
 
Dockage fees, marina services, parts,  fuel, insurance, government 
extortion, and you name it, I can't think of  anything that is any cheaper in 
terms 
of ongoing sailboat ownership.  

Steve Thomas
C&C27 MKIII
Port Stanley, ON

 
-----Original Message-----
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honeys...@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 6:09  PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Used  boat prices


I had a local broker approach me on behalf of a guy that wants to  buy my 
boat. I said what is he willing to pay net to me? He told me. I  laughed and 
said that I spent more than  his offer in the past 18  months after painting 
the topsides in May of 2011, new wind system, a  complete suit of new sails 
from UK and painting & non skidding the  deck on Nov 2012 and not including 
the new A/C in June of 2012. I guess  my old 39 simply isn't worth very 
much money in this market. Oh, and he wanted  to throw in the bottom job due in 
March. Surprised he didn't ask if I would  finance the boat as part of 
deal....
 
Jack Fitzgerald
HONEY
C&C 39 TM
 
 
In a message dated 2/18/2013 4:30:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cnclistforw...@hotmail.com writes:

I'm guessing it is a case  of a spouse saying "you have to sell that 
boat" and a reluctant spouse  saying "I'm trying, it is listed for 
sale!!!". :-)

Graham  Collins
Secret Plans
C&C 35-III #11

On 2013-02-18 10:24 AM,  Hoyt, Mike wrote:
> I am hoping it was a Mirage 33  ....
>
> Or maybe it was a 24 that is guaranteed to win every  race
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CnC-List  [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Rich
>  Knowles
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 10:18 AM
> To:  cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Used boat  prices
>
> Maybe this is someone adhering to the "sucker born  every minute" school
> of sales. It sure is hard times for  selling.
>
> Rich Knowles
> Indigo. LF38
>  Halifax
>
> On 2013-02-18, at 9:58, Colin Kilgour  <charliekilo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I know we've all  been shocked at the deflation in used boat prices
> recently.  If  you're a buyer, it's a great market.  If you're a
> seller, not  so much.
>
> And fairly often you see boat listings from sellers  who didn't get the
> memo about the price deflation.
>
>  So last night I'm having dinner at the club and on the bulletin  board
> is an ad for a Mirage 24 (a C&C design). Looks like nice  boat with
> decent upgrades.  Ad doesn't specify the year, but  let's assume
> mid-70's.
>
> Asking price.... Wait for  it..... $25,000!
>
> Holy cow!! I can buy half a dozen Mirage  24's for that price and still
> have money left  over....
>
> This must be one special boat...
>
>  Cheers
>  Colin
>


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