Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

The Corvette is a classic. If you are comfortable fixing her up and making her shine, go for it. If you want a fancy new(er) boat and have the $$$, go for it. It's your hobby and whatever winds your watch is your best bet. My Landfall 38 is 33 years old, in pretty good shape and I've never luste

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

Clever solution! Even better, screw an extension hose on the cap and the zerk on the end of the hose where you can get at it. No such thing as too much grease. Rich > On Apr 9, 2014, at 20:40, Graham Collins wrote: > > So I find that my rudder bearing still has the classic "fill it with grea

Re: Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

Hi Dan, You have a classic but you do not need to do a full restoration. She is definitely worth maintaining in a seaworthy condition for the next term, say another forty years. How much did you plan to spend each year on the total of maintenance, operating & upgrades? Cheers, Russ

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Time out Dwight. Your doctor comment is inappropriate. On this list we are amongst friends regardless of our opinion. Please be civil. In the spirit of full disclosure, I see a Doctor of Chiropractic Medicine about six times a year. I am very happy with the results after each visit. Furthermo

Stus-List 1970 C + C 31ft Corvette

Hello all so my dad gave me this boat and its in ok shape it's been out of the water for five years and needs to be updated I am pretty sure I'm on top of it I sailed this boat with my dad during my early teens and know the boat a bit but..now I'm 43 and getting back into it big

Stus-List rod rigging versus wire replacement experiences please

Greetings: For a 1988 C and C Mk2, the cost to replace the original rod rigging is about $2000 more than switching to wire. Has anyone had to make this decision and if you went the wire route are there any regrets? Are there any other pros and cons? This is a cruising boat so speed is not critica

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

Graham, I have a zerk fitting. It fits directly into the rudder tube. Works great. I launched today under sunny skies and little wind. The recently installed rudder was lubed and felt silky smooth. It was like a hot knife through butter. For the driver, this means a summer of smiles... I wou

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

I use SuperLube, a food grade, synthetic you can find at McMasterCarr or some hardware stores. Supposed to be OK with plastics or any materials. - Original Message - From: "Jim Watts" To: "1 CnC List" Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:27:45 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder p

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

If it's a bearing, it's plastic, probably Delrin (Acetal). Teflon grease is wax-based, so safe on either. Star Brite has a tub of Teflon grease for not too stupid a price. http://www.starbrite.com/item/white-ptef-lubricant Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C&C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 9 April 2014 09:

Re: Stus-List Grew Up Sailing..

Nice.so the cub car experience turned into a real racing venture for you _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Francois J Rivard Sent: April 9, 2014 3:02 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Grew Up Sailing.. I am fortunate enough that

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Are you really a doctor??? This does not sound like a real doctor talking.governments try to make laws that society wants.oh I see you are in chiropractic medicine, let me fix you now and please return every 2 weeks for the rest of your life for another fix _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Society has rules because the majority want those rules.I don't need all the rules and they do get in my way sometimes _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: April 9, 2014 1:50 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel H

Re: Stus-List re.modern women magazine

Good for you Jimmy, but you seem angry about something, everyone is entitled to their own point of view. You too of course!!! _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jimmy Kelly Sent: April 9, 2014 1:40 PM To: CnC-List@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List re.mod

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I tried to speak to safety and seamanship earlier on this list with regard to a member planning his first overnight voyage alone and I was told in no uncertain terms to "lighten up" so are you wasting your words here, maybe!!! Sailing is hazardous by definition, at least around here it is, one neve

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Bold enough to say 'it shows" _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: April 9, 2014 1:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Steve - I started at 37, and have been playing

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Big gap.not sure about osmosis but everything is a learning eaperience _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: April 9, 2014 12:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... You guys

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Not so bad; we were all there once unless he is the lady in the picture _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Della Barba, Joe Sent: April 9, 2014 11:50 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs... Good

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

Someone mentioned a few weeks ago that he'd done that and overgreased the bearings and forced them out of kilter. I'm sticking with the grease cup although I had considered the zerc fitting. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Graham Collins wrote: > So I find that my rudder be

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

So I find that my rudder bearing still has the classic "fill it with grease and then screw in the cap to force it into the bearing" piece originally installed. I got the cap off - it all looks good but lord knows when any grease was put in it. Anyway. Does anyone have a good reason why I sho

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

This might be of value: Sheesh, has it been 11 years? I need to take a shower. Note the bearing experience at the bottom of the page. I must just be lucky, because that bearing is still incredibly tight, and my rudder has b

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

Richard, If it is a plug you need to get it out and insert a Zerc fitting for the grease gun. Hit it with PB Blaster before you try to move it. Joel On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Richard N. Bush wrote: > Joel, I didn't realize that there might be different fittings; if its just > a plug I

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I don't think anyone is suggesting that there are no risks when you go to sea. (Spoiler Alert: There are plenty) The key is to understand them and to take prudent steps to manage them. But even if you do that, bad luck can still happen. (And it does from time to time) >From what I understand of

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

OldSteveH wrote: Good planning, risk analysis and contingency planning are essential to a successful long distance sailing trip. Yes unforeseen stuff can happen to the boat, but I'm still talking about those children. If these people had done proper trip planning they would have assessed the ris

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

Joel, I didn't realize that there might be different fittings; if its just a plug I can pull it out and inject the grease down into the hole? Thanks Richard 1985 37 CB Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original M

Stus-List C&C 26 question

There is an un-answered C&C 26 question posted in the Engines and Electrical section of the cncphotoalbum Forum. Any 26 owners have experience with the prop shaft coupling? If so please consider posting a response. My sense is the person asking the question is a boat maintenance newbie helpin

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Good point about Dave and Jaja. Reading their stories in the 90’s was a huge inspiration to us when we were making our plans to take off in 2009. I still have one of their Cruising World cover stories as bathroom reading in our basement (the one where he’s standing on the spreaders in a surviv

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

Richard, Is it a Zerc fitting or a plug? If the former I would take my chances and spray with PB Blaster and then lube it with a lube gun. Joel On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Richard N. Bush wrote: > Fred, and others... I located the fitting on my boat and it appears to > rusted..I'm almost

Stus-List Cool weather site

Not sure if this made the rounds yet: http://new.nowcoast.noaa.gov/mariner.html Lots of options on the right-hand side. Too bad it only shows current conditions for now. -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

Fred, and others... I located the fitting on my boat and it appears to rusted..I'm almost afraid to touch it as it seems it might fall off, any thoughts on what I should do? Thanks Richard 1985 37 CB Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-14

Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I can prove I was a bad parent too: kimcbrown.com/MartaGrinds.html You really aren't supposed to let them suck their pacifiers- my dentist said so.. Clearly Rebel Heart was overly ambitious given the budget and green but it does appear as if they weren't totally clueless. They seem to have had

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

As an old newspaper guy and web producer, I’ll say this clearly is a case of a blogger knowing how to stir the pot to get a great deal of clicks and attention ... The fact is that there are many families out there cruising with small children and nothing bad happens, just as there are families

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I am not sure if this is the same town, but I know that in Delft (NL) they removed all traffic signals (lights, zebra crossings, lines on the road, even curbs) at least in some part of the town and saw a major traffic accidents drop. If you are interested , look up Hans Monderman (e.g. here: h

Re: Stus-List re.modern women magazine

Wonder which involves more risk? Taking your kids on a sailboat or sending them to a public school in the US where they can get stabbed or shot? Sorry to be crude but the media's take on risk is usually skewed. Risk perception is an interesting subject. Here's a good read on the topic: http://w

Stus-List Grew Up Sailing..

I am fortunate enough that my parents were (Still are) pretty "trendy" back in the day and the whole family got into the sailing craze of the mid / late70's :-) My dad gave that up a long long time ago but it was far more than a fad for yours truly.. Here's little 'ol Francois circa 1978 puttin

Re: Stus-List re.modern women magazine

Most of us used to be Duffers and have graduated to Codgers From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Marek Dziedzic Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List re.modern women magazine a great line (apparently, most

Re: Stus-List re.modern women magazine

a great line (apparently, most of us here are not duffers) Marek From: Andrew Burton Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:47 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List re.modern women magazine Favourite line in one of my favourite books growing up...and now: Swallows and Amazons, by A

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I agree wholeheartedly. Society, in our attempt to make idiot proof, is making our lives so full of rules and regulations that we hardly know what to do unless we are told. I read a short article in Discover magazine a while back - it t

Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I followed Charlotte's blog for some time and was wondering why it stopped all of a sudden. I could tell that their trip was not going to last long but I thought they would return to Mexico after a few days at sea. However, risk is one of the things that attracts us to sailing. Bob Boyer S/V

Stus-List Kids on boats (was an arrogant woman blogs)

My wife's an elementary school teacher. She doesn't think much of (helicopter) parents who hover over everything their kids do, and who insulate them from the real world and everything they perceive as risky (but certainly not all real risks, like driving). We didn't raise our kids that way, tho

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I think this starts to get into a wider discussion. People like to talk about how survival of the fittest and evolution created all that we know, including us, and they will defend the teaching of evolution in the school system etc. Well, the warning labels, idiot proofing and regulation have essen

Re: Stus-List re.modern women magazine

Favourite line in one of my favourite books growing up...and now: Swallows and Amazons, by Arthur Ransom In reply to a telegram from their mother asking whether she should let the kids go sailing on the lake comes the reply from their father: BETTER DROWNED THAN DUFFERS STOP IF NOT DUFFERS WONT DRO

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Was I old enough at age 12 to give proper consent to going offshore? Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Tauber Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman bl

Stus-List re.modern women magazine

this must be one of those magazines at check out counters...like old national enquirer only more full of crap...these sailors trying to fulfill a dream...didnt work this time but hope they get it together and try again...any magazine that would print this misinformed nonsence is junk..as for the au

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

This discussion needs some balance. If you do not recognize the inherent dangers of trans-oceanic cruising in a small (and in this case also old) boat then you are lacking in seamanship and navigation skills. To deny these risks is merely and expression of lack of knowledge and understanding

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

27;t for the reasons that this self described expert espouses. http://www.modernmom.com/1443ce50-bf5d-11e3-9fb2-bc764e0546c6.html Cheers, Colin -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cn

Re: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

On the 35 there is no bearing. It is just a metal shaft in a fiberglass tube. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Sheer Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:13 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitti

Re: Stus-List LF38 rudder post grease fitting

I just use a good waterproof grease like Lubriplate. Seems to work just fine. And probably a good idea to keep these discussion “on-list” so others can chime in, as well. I’m CC’ing the list. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I am that way with horses. What - why can't I get on this side? I never touched a horse until I was in my 30s. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject

Stus-List LF 38 rudder post grease fitting (again)

Anybody know whether the bearing is metal or plastic? Trying to figure out what grease to use. Dan Sheer Pegathy LF38 Rock Creek off the Patapsco ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Steve — I started at 37, and have been playing catch-up ever since… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sa

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing at 30 and closing the gap on things that you simply learn by osmosis growing up around sailors is hard. (as is evident by my high post count to this list) Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, De

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Good for you! They'll be telling their kids about it. I can embarrass my son with this photo. http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/noah093x.JPG Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick G Street Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:44

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I didn’t start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can be darn sure my kids did! Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > I still remember watching the east coa

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I still remember watching the east coast drop out of view astern with nothing but Atlantic Ocean ahead at age 12. It was a BIG thrill at that age ☺ At first I was “too young” to stand a watch alone, but when it started storming and pouring down rain I suddenly got promoted and did such a good job

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

This woman is of the ilk that made All is Lost a success at the box office. There are an awful lot of people who don't have the faintest idea of what sailing and cruising are about. Not that it stops them from having opinions! personally, I can't think of a better way to bring up your kids than to

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Reading the article horrified me; but then I was gratified reading the responses. Common sense still lives… :^) Comment after comment compared her remarks about taking kids out on a boat with throwing them in a vehicle and driving somewhere, and how much more statistically dangerous that is

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

My concern is that some governing agency would/could start telling me what I can or can't do, with or without my kids because of the "hazard". Kinda smells like a helmet or seatbelt law, or reckless endangerment. Who gets to decide? Josh Muckley On Apr 9, 2014 9:25 AM, "Colin Kilgour" wrote: >

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Meanwhile, we can't get our (big) kids to come with us on the boat unless it's a sunny afternoon, we aren't going far and there's plenty of snacks and soda. 😳 Lisa Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > > Yeah, my facebook feed is on fire with this stuff righ

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Yeah, my facebook feed is on fire with this stuff right now. Depressing. But, at the same time, if the masses want to think that sailing is for fools, let them, more sailboats and empty anchorages for me (when I get there). Going to go look at a 40 CB and a Landfall this weekend :) I feel for the

Re: Stus-List Take pity on Lake Superior sailors...

Yesterday was the first truly nice day here in Toronto. High of 12 celsius. Took the opportunity to revisit my 1973 Honda CB350 project. Got it running last night and took it for a spin around the block sans helmet and plates, and pissing gas all over. But! It was the first time I ever actually rod

Re: Stus-List Sat phone minutes

If you have an SSB with Pactor modem - that's a really good way to get weather and email while offshore. If you set up sailmail, it's pretty simple. (Fred is familiar with mine, so can probably help you sort that out) The Iridium works fine too, but is expensive (as you likely know). I've used

Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

Nothing wrong with sailing with kids in general. I remember a boat pulling into Bermuda with an infant and a puppy! Obviously YMMV on this. Having no crew but the 2 parents with only one really able to sail is a bit undermanned for ocean sailing IMHO. I still remember from birth to age 3 my son

Re: Stus-List Take pity on Lake Superior sailors...

Fred, I was snowmobiling on Georgian Bay less than a week ago... The ice there is still close to 3 feet thick! Cheers, Colin On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Della Barba, Joe wrote: > I was feeling sorry for myself - this weekend is "scrub the bottom and > change the zinc" day and the water is

Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

If you want to get infuriated, read this woman's blog about Rebel Heart. Apparently, she's some kind of self-described parenting expert who is now weighing in on sailing and seamanship issues as well. I'm not sure I'd have gone to sea with my kids at that age, but if I didn't, it certainly wasn't

Re: Stus-List Take pity on Lake Superior sailors...

I was feeling sorry for myself - this weekend is "scrub the bottom and change the zinc" day and the water is still in the 40s here - but then again I'll just be cold. No ice diving required! Joe Della Barba Coquina C&C 35 MK I ___ This List is provide