Society has rules because the majority want those rules.I don't need all the
rules and they do get in my way sometimes

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan
Plavsa
Sent: April 9, 2014 1:50 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

 

I think this starts to get into a wider discussion. People like to talk
about how survival of the fittest and evolution created all that we know,
including us, and they will defend the teaching of evolution in the school
system etc. Well, the warning labels, idiot proofing and regulation have
essentially defeated evolution. So the laws of evolution no longer apply, is
that what we want? Stupid people have lots of kids, what's that doing the
gene pool? 

 

We live in an aquarium.

 

People around here like to talk about how "driving isn't a right, it's a
privilege". Well, judging by how terrible the drivers are around here I'de
say it's a right (not that I agree with that). We've dumbed everything down
to the point where people can't take responsibility for their own actions
anymore. 

 

To me, it's their family, their decision. Personally though I think these
people are smarter (evolutionarily "better") than most people I encounter on
a daily basis.

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com> wrote:

This discussion needs some balance.   If you do not recognize the inherent
dangers of trans-oceanic cruising in a small (and in this case also old)
boat then you are lacking in seamanship and navigation skills.   To deny
these risks is merely and expression of lack of knowledge and understanding
of  good seamanship.  To expose a young child to these risks in my view
demonstrates questionable judgment and an unreasonable risk to the life and
safety of the child.   The possibility of injury or illness without resort
to medical facilities is in itself questionable.  Two people as a crew under
adverse sea conditions is limited at best and adding the need to watch and
protect the childred during a storm makes it much worse.   What if the child
fell and suffered a serious injury?   I have been offshore in storms and it
requires total attention to the boat and crew safety.   Let's a least be
fair.  This is not a one sided discussion.  At a very minimum a sailor must
recognize these risks and be willing to subject their young children to them
without the consent of the children.    Comparing to a car is not a good
one.   In NY young children must be strapped into an approved child seat in
the back of the car.   Doors must have child safety locks.  Boats offshore
are unregulated.   I was a product safety attorney for many years and I have
seen the cost of not recognizing and taking proper precautions when engaging
in hazardous activities.

Jerome Tauber, C&C 27 MKV

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing
at 30 and closing the gap on things that you simply learn by osmosis growing
up around sailors is hard. (as is evident by my high post count to this
list) 

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
wrote:

Good for you! They'll be telling their kids about it.

I can embarrass my son with this photo.

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/noah093x.JPG

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:44 AM


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

 

I didn't start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can
be darn sure my kids did!


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
wrote:

 

I still remember watching the east coast drop out of view astern with
nothing but Atlantic Ocean ahead at age 12. It was a BIG thrill at that age
:-)

 


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