I tried to speak to safety and seamanship earlier on this list with regard
to a member planning his first overnight voyage alone and I was told in no
uncertain terms to "lighten up" so are you wasting your words here, maybe!!!
Sailing is hazardous by definition, at least around here it is, one never
knows when the ocean will get angry, even on a nice afternoon day sail
things can change for the worse pretty darn quick

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jerome
Tauber
Sent: April 9, 2014 1:33 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

 

This discussion needs some balance.   If you do not recognize the inherent
dangers of trans-oceanic cruising in a small (and in this case also old)
boat then you are lacking in seamanship and navigation skills.   To deny
these risks is merely and expression of lack of knowledge and understanding
of  good seamanship.  To expose a young child to these risks in my view
demonstrates questionable judgment and an unreasonable risk to the life and
safety of the child.   The possibility of injury or illness without resort
to medical facilities is in itself questionable.  Two people as a crew under
adverse sea conditions is limited at best and adding the need to watch and
protect the childred during a storm makes it much worse.   What if the child
fell and suffered a serious injury?   I have been offshore in storms and it
requires total attention to the boat and crew safety.   Let's a least be
fair.  This is not a one sided discussion.  At a very minimum a sailor must
recognize these risks and be willing to subject their young children to them
without the consent of the children.    Comparing to a car is not a good
one.   In NY young children must be strapped into an approved child seat in
the back of the car.   Doors must have child safety locks.  Boats offshore
are unregulated.   I was a product safety attorney for many years and I have
seen the cost of not recognizing and taking proper precautions when engaging
in hazardous activities.

Jerome Tauber, C&C 27 MKV

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing
at 30 and closing the gap on things that you simply learn by osmosis growing
up around sailors is hard. (as is evident by my high post count to this
list) 

 

Steve

Suhana, C&C 32

Toronto

 

 

On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
wrote:

Good for you! They'll be telling their kids about it.

I can embarrass my son with this photo.

http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/noah093x.JPG

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Frederick
G Street
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:44 AM


To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

 

I didn't start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can
be darn sure my kids did!


Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

 

On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>
wrote:

 

I still remember watching the east coast drop out of view astern with
nothing but Atlantic Ocean ahead at age 12. It was a BIG thrill at that age
:-)

 


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