Was I old enough at age 12 to give proper consent to going offshore?

Joe Della Barba
Coquina
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Jerome Tauber
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:33 PM
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This discussion needs some balance.   If you do not recognize the inherent 
dangers of trans-oceanic cruising in a small (and in this case also old) boat 
then you are lacking in seamanship and navigation skills.   To deny these risks 
is merely and expression of lack of knowledge and understanding of  good 
seamanship.  To expose a young child to these risks in my view demonstrates 
questionable judgment and an unreasonable risk to the life and safety of the 
child.   The possibility of injury or illness without resort to medical 
facilities is in itself questionable.  Two people as a crew under adverse sea 
conditions is limited at best and adding the need to watch and protect the 
childred during a storm makes it much worse.   What if the child fell and 
suffered a serious injury?   I have been offshore in storms and it requires 
total attention to the boat and crew safety.   Let's a least be fair.  This is 
not a one sided discussion.  At a very minimum a sailor must recognize these 
risks and be willing to subject their young children to them without the 
consent of the children.    Comparing to a car is not a good one.   In NY young 
children must be strapped into an approved child seat in the back of the car.   
Doors must have child safety locks.  Boats offshore are unregulated.   I was a 
product safety attorney for many years and I have seen the cost of not 
recognizing and taking proper precautions when engaging in hazardous activities.

Jerome Tauber, C&C 27 MKV



-----Original Message-----
From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com<mailto:stevanpla...@gmail.com>>
To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Wed, Apr 9, 2014 11:07 am
Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...
You guys that grew up sailing are lucky, don't forget it. I started sailing at 
30 and closing the gap on things that you simply learn by osmosis growing up 
around sailors is hard. (as is evident by my high post count to this list)

Steve
Suhana, C&C 32
Toronto


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Della Barba, Joe 
<joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov<mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> wrote:
Good for you! They’ll be telling their kids about it.
I can embarrass my son with this photo.
http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/images/noah093x.JPG


Joe Della Barba
Coquina
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Behalf Of Frederick G Street
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:44 AM

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Subject: Re: Stus-List Rebel Heart - an ignorant woman blogs...

I didn’t start sailing young enough to have had that experience; but you can be 
darn sure my kids did!

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI   :^(

On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:42 AM, Della Barba, Joe 
<joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov<mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>> wrote:

I still remember watching the east coast drop out of view astern with nothing 
but Atlantic Ocean ahead at age 12. It was a BIG thrill at that age ☺


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