Re: Stus-List More EDSON

2013-11-19 Thread Rich Knowles
Likely something to do with the needle. Rich > On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:07, Jim Watts wrote: > > Compasses are filled with alcohol for the same reason that people are filled > with alcohol. Whatever reason that may be. ___ This List is provided by th

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread sam . c . salter
In a freshwater cooled engine, the block always has antifreeze in it. It's never drained.The raw water side has rubber hoses, a strainer - probably bronze and stainless, the raw water pump, the heat exchanger - brass or copper tubes, which will drain down anyway, the mixing elbow - at the high poin

Re: Stus-List More EDSON

2013-11-19 Thread Jim Watts
That advice sounds like it's from a compass adjuster. Once you have it dialed in, why take it off and have to do it all over again? Compasses are filled with alcohol for the same reason that people are filled with alcohol. Whatever reason that may be. On 19 November 2013 19:28, Rich Knowles wro

Re: Stus-List More EDSON

2013-11-19 Thread Rich Knowles
Interesting. I've had Ritchie Globemaster compasses for over 20 years and have never removed them from the boats. No problems to date. Rich > On Nov 19, 2013, at 23:20, Alex Giannelia wrote: > > So, way back when, in 1974, Edson built a pedestal that was supposed to fit a > Ritchie compass.

Stus-List More EDSON

2013-11-19 Thread Alex Giannelia
So, way back when, in 1974, Edson built a pedestal that was supposed to fit a Ritchie compass. The top plate had 4 ¼" countersunk screw holes facing down in a diagonal pattern to fit the ¼" x 20 threads in the casting of the pillar. It also had 4 #10 or #12 countersunk holes facing up, presumab

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Mike
HI Josh I would not recommend leaving the engine / exhaust dry. The inside of the engine will rust and cause increased wear. I always stored with plumbing in the engine. I would drain the block/muffler. Then run the antifreeze through it. I would do this twice. Never Had any problems. MIk

Re: Stus-List Go Pro Camera

2013-11-19 Thread Jim Watts
Remember to use only female chihuahuas. On 19 November 2013 16:43, Wally Bryant wrote: > I can handle that. But the accessories will nickel and dime you to death. > > I actually deleted about ten jokes. > > Let me tell you the punch line from a joke I made up about Queso Chihuaha: > "Do you kn

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Jake Brodersen
Josh, I put a small oil-filled heater in the main cabin and keep it on low. I also remove the engine box cover and keep the head door open. This ensures that everything stays above freezing inside the boat. I stay in the water until January, then haul to start Spring maintenance. Once I hau

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mkII New Owner

2013-11-19 Thread Curtis
Congratulation on the new boat. I have a C&C30Mk1 Little different boat but like you said its a great size for me and the wife. With regards to the Yanmar, You will find it to be a great little little engine. It sips fuel at a little less than 1/2 gal per hour, so, a 25 gal tank cruising at 5 knot

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Rich Knowles
Josh, if you are planning on leaving the boat in the water, I suggest you winterize everything just as if you were hauling her for the winter. Murphy lurks. The power usually goes off when the heat is most needed. Rich > On Nov 19, 2013, at 21:07, Josh Muckley wrote: > > Water heater is unde

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mkII New Owner

2013-11-19 Thread John and Maryann Read
Welcome to the group and congrats on your new acquisition John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 C&C 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Driscoll Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 7:55 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List C&C 30

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread sam . c . salter
I have a 2GM20F Yanmar. I lake sail in the Rockies in Alberta, Canada. It's currently -15 deg C and usually gets to -25 to -30 for a week or two in January. I don't blow out the lines, but I drain them. Been doing it for 10 yrs.Drain strainer, pump (pull impeller) , water muffler, heat exchanger.dr

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mkII New Owner

2013-11-19 Thread Derek Leck
Yeah. My 2GM likes throttle for first start of the day and blows a tad of smoke but runs like a top. Went through and changed all fluids, belts and hoses last spring. I install a new impeller every spring. Cheap insurance. Have not to date but intend to tackle fuel system this spring. Removing f

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Josh Muckley
Water heater is under the sink and during the sailing season always warms the cabinet under the sink quite a bit. Josh On Nov 19, 2013 7:52 PM, "Joel Aronson" wrote: > Is the water heater in the cabin? > If you lose power you could have a problem. I'd drain it. > > Joel > 35/3 > Annapolis > > On

Re: Stus-List C&C 30 mkII New Owner

2013-11-19 Thread Joel Aronson
Welcome and congrats! Sounds like you are on the right track. Change fluids and filters and treat the fuel. The Yanmar does require some throttle. Not sure about the smoke. Joel Annapolis On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, Kevin Driscoll wrote: > My wife and I took ownership this past Saturday of

Stus-List C&C 30 mkII New Owner

2013-11-19 Thread Kevin Driscoll
My wife and I took ownership this past Saturday of a C&C 30mkII, 1989. We are super happy to have "Osprey" and believe that it is the perfect size for us here in Portlandia, Oregon. Much of our sailing is on the Columbia River and so we inevitably do much more sail handling than the average sailor.

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Joel Aronson
Is the water heater in the cabin? If you lose power you could have a problem. I'd drain it. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Tuesday, November 19, 2013, Josh Muckley wrote: > I have a fresh water cooled Yanmar. Has any body considered blowing the > lines clear? I actually added antifreeze last year and

Re: Stus-List Go Pro Camera

2013-11-19 Thread Wally Bryant
I can handle that. But the accessories will nickel and dime you to death. I actually deleted about ten jokes. Let me tell you the punch line from a joke I made up about Queso Chihuaha: "Do you know how many Chhuahas it takes to make this much cheese?" Wal you wrote: You've been living in a

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Josh Muckley
I have a fresh water cooled Yanmar. Has any body considered blowing the lines clear? I actually added antifreeze last year and then blew it out with a shop-vac. I guess I should have kinda done it the other way around. I could have probably blown it dry and then chased it with half a gallon (or

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread dwight veinot
David I can't remember if your engine is raw water cooled or not. If it is raw water cooled you have to get it hot enough for the thermostat to open in order to get the antifreeze mix around the block. If its not raw water cooled then just a run through the pump, heat exchanger and exhaust will

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread sam . c . salter
If the antifreeze came out of the exhaust, then the muffler is full of anti freeze too!SamC&C 26 Liquorice Ghost Lake Alberta 

Re: Stus-List Go Pro Camera

2013-11-19 Thread Rick Brass
Wal; You've been living in a third world country (well, maybe second and a half) for too long and have obviously lost touch with first world economics. They are $2000 accessories. Each. Rick Brass -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Wally

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Josh Muckley
I measured today and got 6 and 7/8ths. Josh On Nov 18, 2013 5:37 PM, "Edd Schillay" wrote: > Listers, > > I’m looking to replace the section on my Edson pedestal that houses the > engine controls. Before I make a special trip to City Island to measure, > does anyone know if I should get the 6-7/

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread dwight veinot
I am not sharp enough to get that one Graham but I do like a good laugh, thanks for that Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Graham Collins wrote: > I thought all honorable men were on Dwight's list, it is a mark of > excellence! >

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread dwight veinot
How do you know that you're not there already LOL Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Dave, > > Had a long talk with Edson this morning. On my 37+, I need to pull up the > lever to put the boat in forward. The

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread David Knecht
I wanted to report back on my winterizing efforts last weekend.  I went ahead with my plan and purchased 15’ of 5/8” tygon tubing and a funnel.  I pushed that into the intake port on the outside of the hull and  then ran it up to the deck.  There I prefilled the tubuing iwth the funnel and then put

Re: Stus-List Go Pro Camera

2013-11-19 Thread Frederick G Street
HA!!! Looks quite a bit pricier than $20… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Nov 19, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Wally Bryant wrote: > Cool. I really like the "Capture Create and Share" picture at the bottom of > the page. >

Re: Stus-List Go Pro Camera

2013-11-19 Thread Wally Bryant
And being totally out of touch with current technology, I had to Google "Go Pro Camera" Cool. I really like the "Capture Create and Share" picture at the bottom of the page. Is that one of the $20 accessories that someone was talkin

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Graham Collins
I thought all honorable men were on Dwight's list, it is a mark of excellence! Graham Collins Secret Plans C&C 35-III #11 On 2013-11-19 2:23 PM, Edd Schillay wrote: Dave, Had a long talk with Edson this morning. On my 37+, I need to pull up the lever to put the boat in forward. The lever ins

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Rick Brass
When I had Imzadi on the hard for a refit in 2009 I pulled the pedestal to replace the bearings, the idler plate under the cockpit sole, and the throttle and gearshift cables. It turned out to make changing the fuel tank and replacing the engine a lot easier too, when the steering was out of the

Re: Stus-List Go Pro Camera

2013-11-19 Thread Eric Baumes
I have had a GoPro for several seasons and have been happy with it. There are a lot of mounts available for it. The challenges have been: Fogging within the case. There are is are some moisture absorbing inserts that minimize this. Remembering to charge it. Remembering to turn it on. Internal clo

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Curtis
Mine is all dusty as well. I wander if its this could be done with my C&C30MK1? It is so hard trying to use the up down fwd-rev and throttle cable at my helm. On 11/19/13, Dennis C. wrote: > Edd, > > My experience is that Edson's powder coating isn't the best anyway.  If you > want black, take it

Re: Stus-List New boat - actually own it now!

2013-11-19 Thread djhaug...@juno.com
Mark, Congratulations!!! Good luck!! Danny -- Original Message -- From: "Dr. Mark Bodnar" To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List New boat - actually own it now! Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:23:18 -0400 So the deed is done. I decided to throw caution into the wind and I

Re: Stus-List winterizing engine "hose rig"

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Coleman
On My Nanni, the mixing elbow is bolted onto the heat exchanger, but the break may be (it is, I just looked) between the pump and the heat exchanger. So, you are correct in that it is not right out of the strainer. That makes a difference. Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: Rick

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Dennis C.
Edd, My experience is that Edson's powder coating isn't the best anyway.  If you want black, take it to a powder coater and have it powder coated black before you install it. It's on my project list to remove my pedestal and have it powder coated locally.  I installed an Edson engine control m

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Steve Thomas
We had a really windy night here Sunday, rattled and shook the house all night. Still 15,000 people up north without hydro this morning, and the maple leaves on my front lawn didn't budge one bit. They aren't wet. They just naturally seem to hunker down. I thought that just maybe some of them wou

Stus-List New boat - actually own it now!

2013-11-19 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar
So the deed is done. I decided to throw caution into the wind and I now own a 1986 CS 30. The PO was not interested in any further negotiation despite my finding a few issues - but I feel like I had a good price and that this was a good boat for me, so I just went for it. Was down at the boat on

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Coleman
I don't know how your transmission is configured, but when I installed my latest all I had to do was put the shifter lever on the tranny either pointing up for push or point it down for pull. Or vice versa. In this way you can reverse whatever the shifter lever does. Unless I am missing something

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Bill Coleman
Sounds like a Wedding Card that I have not as of yet been able to use - it says,: Congratulations On your Wedding. Just so you know, one of you married up, and one of you married down. But congratulations to both of you. Bill Coleman C&C 39 animated_favicon1 From: CnC-List [mai

Re: Stus-List Perkins 4-108

2013-11-19 Thread dwight veinot
Congratulations, hope I can do what you're doing at 80, or even just get there healthy Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM, Ken Rodmell wrote: > Re my 50hp Perkins, I will take a couple of shots next time I’m on the > island and pos

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread dwight veinot
Good sense of humor, Jim: that's what I intended and what I expected Lightened up my day a bit...busy cleaning up leaves, gutters, last cut for the lawn etc., Got it done now and feeling the pain Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:24 PM,

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Dave Godwin
Edd, Thanks for that. It’s been literally years that the new pedestal has been in my shed and I have forgotten most of the info that I had when I contemplated changing out my system. FWIW, I have the larger 402 series pedestal less the compass setup that fits it. Planning on using the 5” compas

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Frederick G Street
My situation might be a result of the engine being mounted backwards with a V-drive on the LF38; everything gets kinda messed up… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Nov 19, 2013, at 12:12 PM, Dave Godwin wrote: > Edd and

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Edd Schillay
Dave, Had a long talk with Edson this morning. On my 37+, I need to pull up the lever to put the boat in forward. The lever inside the pedestal then pulls the shift cable upwards. With that set up, Edson says the 816ST-45 is the one to go with. Best price I could find: http://

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Dave Godwin
Edd and Fred, I’m hoping that it works for Edd because I have the same original throttle/gear setup but have a new Edson pedestal with the forward=forward/back=reverse levers that I’m planning to put on this Spring. I’ll be interested in the outcome. Best, Dave 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin On

Stus-List Go Pro Camera

2013-11-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic
I +1 the GoPro. I don’t use it on the boat, but between my son and myself we recorded probably 50+ h of skiing videos. The latest HD editions have great resolution and very good contrast (a problem with earlier versions of many cameras). I would recommend large capacity Lithium battery as an ad

Stus-List Perkins 4-108

2013-11-19 Thread Ken Rodmell
Re my 50hp Perkins, I will take a couple of shots next time I¹m on the island and post them. The PO had it installed as he did a lot of cruising on Georgian Bay. If I could afford to, I¹d replace it with a much lighter engine as my wife and I do mostly day sailing and I race some. I tried to get a

Re: Stus-List winterizing engine "hose rig"

2013-11-19 Thread Marek Dziedzic
Jack, the “T” is a non-issue; the water pressure from the garden hose might be. There is no way the water can enter through the intake through hull and flow across the engine to the muffler (the static pressure there is about 0.05 atm (<1 psi)). But a water under pressure (municipal water suppl

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Jim Watts
Yes, but we're not going to tell you who they are. On 19 November 2013 09:04, dwight veinot wrote: > Good for Ken but are there some contributors who we should doubt > > Dwight Veinot > Alianna > C&C 35 MKII > Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Edd Schillay

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread dwight veinot
Good for Ken but are there some contributors who we should doubt Dwight Veinot Alianna C&C 35 MKII Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Josh, > > I would never doubt the information from Ken Heaton. He’s like the Oracle > in the Matrix movies.

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Edd Schillay
Fred, No worries. I just spoke with Edson and the key to the whole thing is the cable pull. If the cable gets pulled upwards, will the boat go forward? I’m pretty sure that’s how it is on my 37+. When I put the boat in forward, the cable on the inside of the pedestal gets pulle

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Frederick G Street
Well, that wasn’t my intention; think how much sadder you’d be if you put on the wrong thing, and shifting forward put you into reverse… :^) Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Nov 19, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Edd Schillay wrote: > Y

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Edd Schillay
Fred, Wow. Really? I’ve looked in there, and it appears to be a standard lever which pulls the control cable. I’ll call Edson. Thanks for the warning. You may have just made me very sad. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Ent

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Frederick G Street
Edd — I suggest you call the guys at Edson Marine and talk with them about what engine you’ve got, etc. I have the throttle (fore/aft)on the starboard side, and the shifter (up/down) on the aft side of the pedestal, like yours; I wanted to switch to both controls being fore/aft on either side o

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Della Barba, Joe
I want to see it too! A 50 HP engine in a light 35 foot boat is a TON of power for a sailboat. We had the little brother to that - the 4-107 - in a heavy wooden 36 foot ketch and it was more than enough. Joe Della Barba Coquina From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of

Re: Stus-List Pedestal width (compass diameter) on a 37+?

2013-11-19 Thread Edd Schillay
Josh, I would never doubt the information from Ken Heaton. He’s like the Oracle in the Matrix movies. I’m in no rush. My wife wants to buy me the new piece for the holidays and I would love to switch from the push-down forward, pull-up reverse to the push forward for forward an

Re: Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Petar Horvatic
How in the world did you squeeze 4-108 into 35-2? Could you share some photos of your installation? Is you exhaust 2" or 1.5"? I like the idea of vegetable oil for the impeller. I will definitely try that. Petar Horvatic Sundowner 76 C&C 38MkII Newport, RI From: CnC-List [ma

Stus-List Winterizing

2013-11-19 Thread Ken Rodmell
On my 35 Mk II, I¹ve been using the same system for 21 years. It can get very cold up here in Toronto and I¹ve had no problems. I hang a bucket containing about a gallon of the antifreeze mix from the stern rail directly below the exhaust pipe,. A hose is led from the bucket through the cockpit to