Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Jay Weekley
How did you fix the problem? Chuck McCown wrote: Yes, several. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Bill Prince wrote:  I think that's a Western Rattlesnake, but it looks way too long. Is that more than one snake in there? bp On 6/24/2020 5:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

[AFMUG] Powering an Aviat 4100

2020-06-25 Thread Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF
Hi Guys If I have a negative ground 24 solar site filled with radio equipment, is the best way to power the Aviat by dc cable through an isolated DCDC converter? Any other Gotcha’s? I would like to just plug into the netonix switch with everything else but I think the pins are different. Thank

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Aviat 4100

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah - you will need -/+48VDC for the Aviat radio. They are floating, so they don't care about -/+. I would stick a Meanwell RSD in line to convert your -24VDC to 48VDC and be done with it. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 9:15 AM Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF < af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Hi Guys

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Aviat 4100

2020-06-25 Thread Rhys Cuff (Speedweb Internet) via AF
Thanks Josh I do have an RSD handy but it doesn't say isolated and some others do. Is a Dcdc converter isolated by nature? The specs say they will take 24v also in the dc port, would I still need the dcdc? The sales guy told me they are positive ground. Thanks again Rhys Sent from my iPhon

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Chuck McCown
We haven’t yet. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2020, at 6:30 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > > How did you fix the problem? > > Chuck McCown wrote: >> Yes, several. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >>>  >>> >>> I think that's a Western Rat

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Aviat 4100

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Baird
The RSD is isolated. Not sure if all DCDC converters are, but I know the RSD is. You are right - the WTM4100 is different after looking at the spec sheet: Input voltage: -20 to -57V (WTM4100/ 4200 13-42 GHz) Input voltage: -40 to -57V (WTM4200 5-11 GHz) I only have experience with the WTM4200 (

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Bill Prince
We have a pair of tongs from Midwest Tongs. bp On 6/25/2020 5:29 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: How did you fix the problem? Chuck McCown wrote: Yes, several. Sent from my iPhone

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread dave
Use a Stick :) Be sure to have a BOM. Lawn chair, Pack of cold beer, sun glasses and a bucket On 6/24/20 8:40 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Nope.  In a UDOT HH so not gonna break the law on their turf.  Just like to get them out. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wro

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Adam Moffett
That's a big bundle of nope-rope. On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: We haven’t yet. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 25, 2020, at 6:30 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: How did you fix the problem? Chuck McCown wrote: Yes, several. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 24, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Powering an Aviat 4100

2020-06-25 Thread Adam Moffett
+1 Meanwell RSD will work.  You can verify with your multimeter that it has no connection between DC and ground, but I guarantee it doesn't. On 6/25/2020 9:35 AM, Josh Baird wrote: The RSD is isolated.  Not sure if all DCDC converters are, but I know the RSD is. You are right - the WTM4100

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Call a rattlesnake Wrangler...our get those long ass hand grips and put in large plastic bintake out to the desert. Rodent control On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 8:40 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > That's a big bundle of nope-rope. > > > On 6/25/2020 9:33 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > We haven’t yet. > > > >

[AFMUG] EPMP 4.4.3 and physically close SMs

2020-06-25 Thread Nate Burke
Because of Internal politics, I have a customer that needed 2 separate radio feeds. So I have 2 EPMP force 200 radios on the same pole, about 1' apart. After upgrading to 4.4.3 these 2 radios give really strange signal readings. They appear to be working normally, with no complaints from th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
We live in the desert. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 9:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise Call a rattlesnake Wrangler...our get those long ass hand grips and put in large plastic bintake out to the desert. Rodent contr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Exactly...away from city slickers who just want to kill them... On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 9:12 AM wrote: > We live in the desert. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 9:04 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise > > Call a rat

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Steven Kenney
If kids are around where I find em, I kill em. But most around here are harmless so the ones I find I usually just take out to a ditch or field and dump them. Snakes are awesome. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 4.4.3 and physically close SMs

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
I think mine started with 4.4.3. Could be wrong. I get -65 normally but SNMP will show -89 here and there. eAlign shows -65 give or take a db. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:07 AM Nate Burke wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 4.4.3 and physically close SMs

2020-06-25 Thread Nate Burke
On close SM's or just an SM in general? On 6/25/2020 10:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: I think mine started with 4.4.3. Could be wrong. I get -65 normally but SNMP will show -89 here and there. eAlign shows -65 give or take a db. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
Generally I just walk around them unless they are coiled. They usually move. The bad thing is when you are down on your hands and knees and there is a coiled one nearby. Got nailed on the elbow once doing that. They strike if they are stretched out. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, Ju

[AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Steve Jones
Im confused as shit, and the cambium documentation is not clear. The syncinjector cambium sync says 450m, but is the only 450m 5ghz? the 3ghz as bestI can tell is a DC only product (even says something about sync over power) so will the syncinjector still provide sync at the ethernet port, i just

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Steven Kenney
When I lived down in Florida our office was right next to some really really thick jungle foliage and a river. I was making my way to the river to check it out and I looked down and saw this pale tan snake between my legs slithering away that was at least 10feet long and 8 inches around. I almos

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 4.4.3 and physically close SMs

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Luthman
General. These are the hottest customers we have and the top couple didn't have anything weird in the graphs. [image: image.png] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 11:32 AM Nate Burke wrote: > On close SM's o

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Eric Muehleisen
The RackInjector board naming scheme is confusing. He really needs a table matrix that breaks down what boards support what equipment and what jumpers and power requirements to use. I think this is why he was asking for help on his documentation. Power Injection for Cambium Sync = 450M & 450i. Pow

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Steve Jones
wont sending POE power to the radio damage the port?, syncinjectors are passive poe On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:21 PM Eric Muehleisen wrote: > The RackInjector board naming scheme is confusing. He really needs a table > matrix that breaks down what boards support what equipment and what jumpers >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
I should have said they can’t strike if stretched out. From: Steven Kenney Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:47 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise When I lived down in Florida our office was right next to some really really thick jungle foliage and a river. I was making my

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Baird
Just try it dude.. 450M's are cheap On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 1:39 PM Steve Jones wrote: > wont sending POE power to the radio damage the port?, syncinjectors are > passive poe > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:21 PM Eric Muehleisen > wrote: > >> The RackInjector board naming scheme is confusing. He

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Steve Jones
stop repeating the voices in my heads instructions On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:50 PM Josh Baird wrote: > Just try it dude.. 450M's are cheap > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 1:39 PM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> wont sending POE power to the radio damage the port?, syncinjectors are >> passive poe >> >>

[AFMUG] OT: Frickin Noobs

2020-06-25 Thread Adam Moffett
So some radio station is transporting audio over IP from studio to tower.  A few weeks ago they started getting skips in the audio, and they're finger pointing at me.  At first I couldn't even see a problem.  Eventually I find that every so often there's a 1/10th second event with packet loss. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Frickin Noobs

2020-06-25 Thread Steve Jones
I had to correct problems for a radio station we service. What a PITA dealing with them is. I accept the guy knows more about AM/FM radio than ill ever even think about, but come on, learn the tech youre managing. Fist issue was they were broadcasting real time stream with absolutely no buffer. The

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Carl Peterson
I should have known better then to click on that. I think I'm going to throw up. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:43 PM wrote: > I should have said they can’t strike if stretched out. > > *From:* Steven Kenney > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:47 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Cameron Crum
Every year in the county west of me they have a rattlesnake roundup event in Weatherford, TX. They didn't do it this year due to covid and people are reporting tons of rattlesnakes now out in the fields. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:00 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > I should have known better then to cl

[AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread Josh
What is stronger between rohn 45gsr and 65g? what could you put on each if your looking to do 60’ self-supporting. Thanks, Josh Heide Operations Manager 209-838-1221 | velociter.net j...@velociter.net 1525 2nd Street, Escalon, CA 95320 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmu

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
65G for sure. It is like a mini SSV You can probably put twice the stuff on it than you can a 45G. From: Josh Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:26 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g What is stronger between rohn 45gsr and 65g? what could you put on each if your looking

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Heide
Not the 45g the 45gsr which has the solid steel legs. Josh Heide Operations Manager 209-838-1221 | velociter.net j...@velociter.net 1525 2nd Street, Escalon, CA 95320 From: AF on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave User

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread Lewis Bergman
Why not go to the source? http://www.rohnnet.com/files/2015_Rohn_Full_Catalog.pdf#page=170 On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:34 PM Josh Heide wrote: > Not the 45g the 45gsr which has the solid steel legs. > > > > > > Josh Heide > Operations Manager > 209-838-1221 | velociter.net > j...@velociter.net > 1

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread Craig House
I wouldn't even consider a self supporting 45g over 40-50' From: "Josh" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:26:55 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g What is stronger between rohn 45gsr and 65g? what could you put on each if your looking to do 60’ s

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Heide
Because I wanted to read real world results from people who have installed both because things are not always good as they appear in the spec sheet. Thanks, Josh Heide Operations Manager 209-838-1221 | velociter.net j...@velociter.net 1525 2nd St

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
Did not notice the S. From: Josh Heide Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g Not the 45g the 45gsr which has the solid steel legs. Josh Heide Operations Manager 209-838-1221 | velociter.net j...@velociter.net 152

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
Didn’t even know they made a solid rod tower like this. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:40 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g Did not notice the S. From: Josh Heide Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwa

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
GSR is slightly better at all winds and heights it looks like. Wonder how the price compares? More room to work on the 65G. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g Why not go to the source? http://ww

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread Josh Heide
Yea, why I was curious as on paper looks like the 45gsr is better List price: 45gsr 10’ $885 65g 10’ $947 Also seeing tessco has a 45gsr double braced $1275 10’ From: AF on behalf of "ch...@wbmfg.com" Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:43 PM To: A

Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
Stronger and cheaper. From: Josh Heide Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rohn 45gsr vs 65g Yea, why I was curious as on paper looks like the 45gsr is better List price: 45gsr 10’ $885 65g 10’ $947 Also seeing tessco has a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 11:43 AM wrote: > I should have said they can’t strike if stretched out. > > *From:* Steven Kenney > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:47 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise > > When I lived down in Florida our office was right next to some rea

Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise

2020-06-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 11:43 AM wrote: > I should have said they can’t strike if stretched out. > > *From:* Steven Kenney > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2020 10:47 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hand Hole Surprise > > When I lived down in Florida our office was right next to some rea

[AFMUG] witch?

2020-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have a customer named Samantha Stephens. Should I worry she might be a witch? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] witch?

2020-06-25 Thread Cameron Crum
Only if her husband is Darren. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I have a customer named Samantha Stephens. Should I worry she might be a > witch? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.

Re: [AFMUG] witch?

2020-06-25 Thread David Coudron
Did she ask how difficult it might be to mount a Subscriber Module to a solid glass surface? From: AF On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] witch? Only if her husband is Darren. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:40 P

Re: [AFMUG] witch?

2020-06-25 Thread Ken Hohhof
Old Darren or new Darren? From: AF On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 5:42 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] witch? Only if her husband is Darren. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I have a cust

Re: [AFMUG] witch?

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
Is she smokin’ hot? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 4:40 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] witch? I have a customer named Samantha Stephens. Should I worry she might be a witch? -

[AFMUG] OT Witch

2020-06-25 Thread chuck
Had to go read why again they switched. Health problems which lead to drug problems. In 1969, with Dick York as Darrin (his final season), the show was a ratings hit at #11, but when Sargent took over the role, ratings soon dropped and the show went to #24. Poor Dick Sargent never did catch on w

Re: [AFMUG] witch?

2020-06-25 Thread Bill Prince
When she starts wiggling her nose, you better run! bp On 6/25/2020 3:41 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: Only if her husband is Darren. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 5:40 PM Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Witch

2020-06-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Oh I remember her fondly... especially as Sabrina...yum yum On Thu, Jun 25, 2020, 4:59 PM wrote: > Had to go read why again they switched. > Health problems which lead to drug problems. > > In 1969, with Dick York as Darrin (his final season), the show was a > ratings hit at #11, but when Sargen

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sorry I didn’t see this earlier Steve… this second link is the one I would have pointed you too. Matt From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2020 3:51 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m double

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Everyone straightened you out just fine But yes, the 3Ghz medusa powers via the DC power, and gets sync over the ethernet port with a cambium sync rackinjector card OR a powerinjector+cambium sync if you're at a site without a rackinjector. And yes, it's fine to put power on the ethernet port

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Frickin Noobs

2020-06-25 Thread Mark Radabaugh
The stuff we find from old analog radio guys is downright scary… Encoders feeding T1’s feeding TDM to packet converters across a data link back to TDM to analog with no error correction or buffering. Or the radio guy who ripped out the Canopy BH10’s because the radio was only getting -60dB and

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Frickin Noobs

2020-06-25 Thread Adam Moffett
T1 over IP is a damnable sin.  I can see why you might do it on a campus network to connect phone systems in different buildings. But for what you spend on T1 over IP equipment, I'd wonder why the person wasn't just considering a different phone system. Honestly I'm very impressed by the radio

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

2020-06-25 Thread Jon Langeler
Fiber and power cables only plus gps feeding off the aux port works fine. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jun 25, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > What am I missing? Is it not possible to do inband management over the fiber? > > From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Chris