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2020-04-20 Thread Bill Prince
g9mqh   From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Finally. From: Steve Jones Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 4:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus ha On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 4:41 PM wrote: Sad... http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:00 PM To

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2020-04-20 Thread Steve Jones
ha On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 4:41 PM wrote: > Sad... http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh > > *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists > *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 1:00 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus > > Only after Pearl Harbor...and the Na

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Sad... http://tinyurl.com/2g9mqh From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 1:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Only after Pearl Harbor...and the Nazi’s foolishly declaring war on the US in the immediate aftermath. Jeff Broadwick

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2020-04-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
@wbmfg.com wrote: >> I am normally pretty optimistic, so feeling a bit cynical this morning: >> >> If aliens landed in a mars attacks style, if would become partisan politics >> before they even left the spacecraft. >> >> If Jesus appeared walking a

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2020-04-20 Thread Steve Jones
er, you jabronis" > > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:01 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus > > > All the news about WW2 came from the government. > > Perhaps it would have gone differently if you had a b

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
I had to look it up: ja·bro·ni /jəˈbrōnē/ noun INFORMAL•US 1.. a foolish or contemptible person. "get it together, you jabronis" From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:01 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus All the news about WW2 came from the

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2020-04-20 Thread Adam Moffett
. *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 10:24 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus The funny thing is when you talk about politicizing a crisis, everyone thinks you're talking about someone else but not them.  It's everyone and it always will be. Every elec

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2020-04-20 Thread Steve Jones
for President! > > > > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/18/world/europe/with-broad-random-tests-for-antibodies-germany-seeks-path-out-of-lockdown.html > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 11:24 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com >

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2020-04-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/british-bakers-reintroduce-world-war-ii-bread-coronavirus-fight-n1180536 From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:38 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Just contrasting the current situation to what I know

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2020-04-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
-germany-seeks-path-out-of-lockdown.html From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 11:24 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus The funny thing is when you talk about politicizing a crisis, everyone thinks you're talking about someone else but not

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus The funny thing is when you talk about politicizing a crisis, everyone thinks you're talking about someone else but not them. It's everyone and it always will be. Every elected person has to address every situation with the mentality of "wh

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2020-04-20 Thread Steve Jones
It would not be a correct assumption that this man is telling the truth. He may very well have gotten the cargo shipment. He's 100 percent lying about the ppe shortage at the chicago hospitals, this comes from nurses there, not politicians and administrators. He lied about getting the wrong masks f

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2020-04-20 Thread Adam Moffett
fore they even left the spacecraft. If Jesus appeared walking across the sea, helping fishermen gather a catch, PETA and Greenpeace would be filing injections. *From:* Jaime Solorza *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 8:56 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
Injections?... hmmm Depending on the injection might be kinda pleasant. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 9:22 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Blame Bill Gates. And 5G. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday

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2020-04-20 Thread Ken Hohhof
Blame Bill Gates. And 5G. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 10:17 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus I am normally pretty optimistic, so feeling a bit cynical this morning: If aliens landed in a mars attacks style

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2020-04-20 Thread chuck
filing injections. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 8:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus Didn't your governor procure PPE stuff in stealth mode to keep FEMAs hands from stealing these supplies? That doesn't inept to me, Steve. O

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2020-04-20 Thread Jaime Solorza
Didn't your governor procure PPE stuff in stealth mode to keep FEMAs hands from stealing these supplies? That doesn't inept to me, Steve. On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 6:02 AM Matt Hoppes wrote: > This is correct, there have been a few were accidents, and other deaths > related to usual activities. > >

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2020-04-20 Thread Matt Hoppes
This is correct, there have been a few were accidents, and other deaths related to usual activities. > On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: > > I’ll be interested to see the overall death rates for the US during this > time. I suspect that they will be down from their us

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2020-04-20 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
I’ll be interested to see the overall death rates for the US during this time. I suspect that they will be down from their usual levels, overall, even with the virus. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Apr 19, 2020, at 7:21 PM, ch...@

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2020-04-19 Thread Steve Jones
You cant even imagine inept when you live in a state that's actually managing it. Here in illinois it's a disaster, our governors an utter moron, he knows there's a whole state here, I think, but his only concern is Chicago. If it werent for their new mayor, New York would look like a pony ride. Sh

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2020-04-19 Thread Robert
There is evidence that it effects the blood's ability to carry O2... On 4/19/20 7:10 PM, Bill Prince wrote: We also did not know enough about it. Two months ago it was generally described as a bad pneumonia.  The common treatment for that is ventilators. The story that's come out the last cou

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2020-04-19 Thread Jason McKemie
They are classifying all kinds of things as being kungflu related with no testing to back it up (and in some cases no symptoms). On Sunday, April 19, 2020, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I'm not sure that if it just smells like coronavirus that they classified > is that. Anybody who stops breathing was

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2020-04-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
As many as 66,000 die from the flue in the US annually. That might have been a high year. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 9:07 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I heard someone the other day commenting that this many people die in auto > accidents. That many auto accidents in 6 weeks?!? At the rate we're going > we

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2020-04-19 Thread Bill Prince
We also did not know enough about it. Two months ago it was generally described as a bad pneumonia.  The common treatment for that is ventilators. The story that's come out the last couple of days is that it's not ventilators, but dialysis machines because many of

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2020-04-19 Thread Bill Prince
I heard someone the other day commenting that this many people die in auto accidents. That many auto accidents in 6 weeks?!? At the rate we're going we'll end up with ~~ 300,000 dead in a year. bp On 4/19/2020 4:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

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2020-04-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
I said it before...inept. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 6:55 PM Steve Jones wrote: > a huge amount. tons of articles on just that, multiple dead family > members. Bad advice from our state officials in most cases telling people > to quarantine at home with their families. too bad. > I wish they would ha

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2020-04-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep...my friends girlfriend got it, isolated her downstairs...she is getting better but now he is showing symptoms and he is diabetic. He has a huge home with vaulted ceilings...sprayed Lysol all over...took all the PPE measures and still... Both their parents are high risk plus in their 80s, so no

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2020-04-19 Thread Steve Jones
a huge amount. tons of articles on just that, multiple dead family members. Bad advice from our state officials in most cases telling people to quarantine at home with their families. too bad. I wish they would have just unleashed fauci, this would be over, he would have blocked all travel, quarant

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2020-04-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
In Wuhan, the Chinese forcibly separated infected individuals from their families and sent them to isolation wards. We are not doing that, I don't know if any western country is doing that. So I wonder how much of the spread is within families living together. Chris Cuomo tried self-quarantine i

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2020-04-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
I'm not sure that if it just smells like coronavirus that they classified is that. Anybody who stops breathing was obviously subject to coronavirus. On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 6:21 PM wrote: > Sobering to see that we have passed the number of the US servicemen deaths > in the Korean war and will prob

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2020-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
uarantee that my dad’s stories weren’t embellished.  At the time, I took them all at face value. *From:*AF *On Behalf Of *James Howard *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:32 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Unfortunately Chuck said he’s assigning it all

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2020-04-15 Thread Adam Moffett
:32 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Unfortunately Chuck said he’s assigning it all to you……..  I kind of thought it was a group effort though. *From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 20

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2020-04-14 Thread Mathew Howard
rince > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:33 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > > > Lunch is good, but FB is a cesspool. > > > bp > > > On 4/14/2020 11:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > We can always talk about lunch.

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2020-04-14 Thread James Howard
I’ve never been to England but how could warm beer possibly spoil? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 3:21 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing So in today's B

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2020-04-14 Thread James Howard
How else can you demonstrate how it was done? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 3:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing All I'm hearing here is do it again On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 3:

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2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Oh, the humanity.. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:20 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing So in today's BEER news: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213855/FIFTY-MILLION-pints-be

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2020-04-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
So in today's BEER news: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213855/FIFTY-MILLION-pints-beer-cider-poured-drain-warns-CAMRA.html -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:48 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus te

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
value. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *James Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:32 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > > > Unfortunately Chuck said he’s assigning it all to you…….. I kind of

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
t; *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:48 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > > That is a pretty good brag; humble though it be. Pretty sure there are > very few school districts in the entire country that could make the same > statement.

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2020-04-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
grinder. I can’t guarantee that my dad’s stories weren’t embellished. At the time, I took them all at face value. From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Unfortunately Chuck

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2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Where was corona virus when I was in school... From: Jesse DuPont Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Here, they're using the quarter grades that post next week for GPA calculation, but the final will be pass/fa

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2020-04-14 Thread Jesse DuPont
ody gets a bad grade.  So she has stopped grading papers.    From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:48 PM To: af@af.afmug.com

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2020-04-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is adult like alert? As in be alert, the world needs more lerts? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing I can name names of people that are at the polar extremes of political

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2020-04-14 Thread Cameron Crum
he has stopped grading papers. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:48 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > > That is a pretty good brag; humble though it be. Pretty sure there are > very few school districts in the e

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2020-04-14 Thread Robert Andrews
l Peterson *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:30 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Yes, I've been here for a long time. Obviously it is Chuck's list and Chuck's rules but I'd argue for being adults about it (Sorry Steve) and

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2020-04-14 Thread chuck
My daughter, the Jr High science teacher has been told that nobody gets a bad grade. So she has stopped grading papers. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:48 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing That is a pretty good brag; humble though it be. Pretty

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
;> thought it was a group effort though. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On >> Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT

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2020-04-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
Federal government failed ...period On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 11:31 AM Steve Jones wrote: > you saw what happened with the "united states" on ventilators, every state > demanded the feds give them every ventilator whether they need them or not. > The feds need to stay completely out of the testing g

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2020-04-14 Thread Mark Radabaugh
assigning it all to you…….. I kind of thought >> it was a group effort though. >> >> >> >> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] >> On Behalf Of Steve Jones >> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM &g

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2020-04-14 Thread James Howard
I disagree. Our local Costco often has Modelo cases and I do not prefer the Negra………. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:44 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing No no no. If you must drink Mexican beer

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2020-04-14 Thread Bill Prince
om: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus t

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2020-04-14 Thread Bill Prince
, 2020 1:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing   Yes, I've been here for a long time.  Obviously it is Chuck's list and Chu

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
t it was a group effort though. > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com ] *On > Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > > > i blame jaime >

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2020-04-14 Thread James Howard
FakeBook is a cesspool? What an insult! How could you say something like that?! From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:33 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Lunch is good, but FB is a cesspool. bp On 4

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2020-04-14 Thread Bill Prince
.   From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus

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2020-04-14 Thread James Howard
different brands though) From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Yes, I've been here for a long time. Obviously it is Chuck's list and Chuc

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
; > > -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews > > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:12 PM > > To: af@af.afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > > > I have to agree with Chuck, it is a WISP centric list and we devolve > > into some pretty

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2020-04-14 Thread chuck
, that is a stretch. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Yes, I've been here for a long time. Obviously it is Chuck's list and Chuck's rules but I'd argue for being adults a

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2020-04-14 Thread Bill Prince
day, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You and I are going to have to agree to disagree.   That would be like every state negotiatin

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2020-04-14 Thread Bill Prince
12:12 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing I have to agree with Chuck, it is a WISP centric list and we devolve into some pretty nasty talk without constraints...  BTDT... On 04/14/2020 11:08 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about any

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2020-04-14 Thread James Howard
Unfortunately Chuck said he’s assigning it all to you…….. I kind of thought it was a group effort though. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing i blame

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM wrote: > > Lent > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > You and I are going to have to agree to disagree.

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2020-04-14 Thread Carl Peterson
till matter, or at least I think they do, and we should be able to >> talk about them without getting all melty about it. >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM wrote: >> >>> Lent >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: Robert Andrews

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2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Actually I am assigning all the blame to Steve for that... From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:27 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You’re claiming all the credit for that? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On

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2020-04-14 Thread chuck
We can always talk about lunch. If you want political discourse there are FB pages that will be happy to host the comments. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:12 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing I have to agree with

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2020-04-14 Thread James Howard
You’re claiming all the credit for that? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing were you here when i broke afmug? On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:09 PM Carl

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
obert Andrews >> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing >> >> You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. That would be like >> every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally. Sorry

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2020-04-14 Thread Robert Andrews
-Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. That would be like every state negotiati

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2020-04-14 Thread Carl Peterson
thout getting all melty about it. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM wrote: > Lent > > -Original Message- > From: Robert Andrews > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing > > You and I are going to have to ag

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2020-04-14 Thread chuck
Lent -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. That would be like every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally. Sorry but

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2020-04-14 Thread Robert Andrews
You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. That would be like every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally. Sorry but United States MEANS coordination at a national level. They should have set up a means to determine need and then sent what wasn't available to nowhere.

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2020-04-14 Thread Steve Jones
you saw what happened with the "united states" on ventilators, every state demanded the feds give them every ventilator whether they need them or not. The feds need to stay completely out of the testing game. its literally the governor of each states responsibility to make sure he has people in pla

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2020-04-14 Thread Robert
At the risk of breaking Lent..   I wish we were the United States instead of the Competing States and Utah could use some of it's excess capacity to help out elsewhere while they don't need it...    Seems a waste to not use that capacity while it's there.   Maybe relax the restrictions and chas

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2020-04-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe Steve can send his tech to Utah for a test, since he apparently can’t get one locally unless he is obviously infected. From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:32 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing That's some very interesting nu

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2020-04-14 Thread Robert
That's some very interesting numbers...   And way interesting is the ability to perform such good testing... On 4/14/20 8:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: From Utah: SALT LAKE CITY — Utah health officials said Monday they’re seeing a low demand for testing for the new coronavirus and they don’t k

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2020-03-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics They have rushed vaccines into human trials in Seattle with people volunteering to be test subjects. Probably did not get presented with the results of some of the early vaccines results for the original SARS when the testees were exposed and had

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2020-03-28 Thread Robert
*Harold Bledsoe *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 3:41 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the denominator of how many infections there actually are. Arguably the best dataset we have at the m

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2020-03-28 Thread Robert
eath rate. I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer a

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2020-03-28 Thread Bill Prince
Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics   What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the denominator of how many infections there actuall

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2020-03-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
, 2020 3:41 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics What's missing in estimating the death rate / ICU rate is the denominator of how many infections there actually are. Arguably the best dataset we have at the moment is Iceland. They have tested

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2020-03-28 Thread Bill Prince
.5 weeks away.   From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

2020-03-28 Thread Harold Bledsoe
*To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics > > > This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer and > Dance". It outlines what the various options and probable outcomes might > be. It does get into the weeds somewhat. > &

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

2020-03-28 Thread Robert
am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer and Dance". It outlines what the vario

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2020-03-28 Thread Mathew Howard
ed on the link that came up. First > saw it on the phone but the link below came from the PC. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:45 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics > > > I was blocked by their paywall. >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

2020-03-28 Thread chuck
: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics I was blocked by their paywall. bp On 3/28/2020 8:43 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: No, it just automagically appeared on my news icon on my iphone. The one that came with the phone. But I don’t subscribe to it I don’t think. From

Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

2020-03-28 Thread chuck
With all of two deaths in Utah we are running a .4% death rate. I am guessing the peak of deaths is 2 to 2.5 weeks away. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:30 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics This is another perspective referred to in this article

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2020-03-28 Thread Bill Prince
Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics   Do you get that with your Apple News+ subscription?   From: AF

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2020-03-28 Thread chuck
No, it just automagically appeared on my news icon on my iphone. The one that came with the phone. But I don’t subscribe to it I don’t think. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 9:36 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics

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2020-03-28 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Either way this goes, I'll be curious to see what the data in the US is after the fact. I feel both sides win either way. If virus is contained: 1.Social distancing worked. 2. Social distancing wasn't necessary. If virus isn't contained: 1. We needed to social distance earlier. 2. Social distanci

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2020-03-28 Thread Ken Hohhof
Do you get that with your Apple News+ subscription? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 10:22 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Virus graphics This is an interesting article:

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2020-03-28 Thread Bill Prince
This is another perspective referred to in this article called "Hammer and Dance". It outlines what the various options and probable outcomes might be. It does get into the weeds somewhat. https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Robert
We looked at that a week ago and asked the same question and came up with a plausible answer.   China mobile services are 90% month to month and with people confined to their domiciles they can switch to wifi calling and cancel service. On 3/24/20 1:14 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Regarding the Chin

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
HrmmmIt looks like I conflated a total unemployment figure from December with an "Urban unemployment" figure from February. My numbers are a little off kilter.  Allegedly so are theirs. Apparently the "urban unemployment" number is considered a very low count because there are 200 million m

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-23/china-s-mobile-carriers-lose-15-million-users-as-virus-bites Apparently it's about 20 million mobile phone subscriptions canceled over the course of January and February combined.  Except they have 1.6 Billion mobile subscriptions.  That's abou

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
so you dont trust chinas health numbers, but you do trust chinas mobile numbers? please provide a link to the related links to documentation of the 10 million lines dropped On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 3:15 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Regarding the China numbers... th

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Source for this info? On 3/24/2020 4:14 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Regarding the China numbers... there are 3 Chinese mobile telephone companies, all owned by the government. In February, they reported a TOTAL (all 3) loss of 10 million + lines. Now, you can attribute some of those to job loss...

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Matt Hoppes
Regarding the China numbers... there are 3 Chinese mobile telephone companies, all owned by the government. In February, they reported a TOTAL (all 3) loss of 10 million + lines. Now, you can attribute some of those to job loss... but not all of them. Deaths? I suspect the death count in China

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Matt Hoppes
, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data to indicate that deaths have been incorrectly attributed, bp On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote: the death count is the death count

Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies

2020-03-24 Thread Steve Jones
gt;> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:01 PM Jason McKemie < >>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> People are revolting, but they will start to revolt... >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, March 19, 2020, James Howard

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