All the news about WW2 came from the government.
Perhaps it would have gone differently if you had a bunch of bobble
heads on TV giving a play by play and giving their personal commentary.
In Vietnam they embedded reporters with the troops, and that
dramatically affected how the war was seen, but even then the news cycle
was days and weeks long. There was time to produce a more clear eyed
picture before something was printed.
Now every jabroni on Twitter counts as a news source. This is a related
problem to the politician problem. Rumor, conjecture, and inference are
co-mingled with the facts and treated with the same weight. With enough
circular references they /become/ facts. Multiple sets of facts exist
which can't all be true, but nobody has the time or expertise to
thoroughly check everything. So we're forced to go about our day doing
our jobs and simply choosing which expert testimony to believe. Then the
politician not only has to consider what to say to get elected, but has
to choose which set of shared facts his voters will believe more.
I think it's likely that none of us is working from a perfect set of
facts at this point. Our politicians included.
On 4/20/2020 12:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Just contrasting the current situation to what I know about WWII.
Everyone seemed to get behind the war effort irrespective of politics.
I came of age during Vietnam. So we had the polar opposite of that in
those years.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 10:24 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
The funny thing is when you talk about politicizing a crisis, everyone
thinks you're talking about someone else but not them. It's everyone
and it always will be.
Every elected person has to address every situation with the mentality
of "what will voters want me to do?". Or perhaps, "what do I want
voters to think I'm doing?" If they didn't do that they wouldn't be
re-elected. We all, in theory, want our politicians to do the right
thing and tell the truth about it, but in reality they're going to do
what they think their voters want, or if they can't then they'll try
to tell them what they want to hear. We can't expect anything other
than politics from politicians. When someone gets a job by winning a
popularity contest they're going to be somewhat narcissistic to begin
with. The ones who keep the job the longest are the ones with the
most narcissistic tendencies because they'll have the greatest skill
at deflecting, equivocating, and outright BS'ing.
I hope this doesn't count as a lent issue. I'm not naming any persons
or parties and it's more of an indictment of electoral processes in
general. The problem of course is that every other method is worse.
On 4/20/2020 11:16 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I am normally pretty optimistic, so feeling a bit cynical this morning:
If aliens landed in a mars attacks style, if would become partisan
politics before they even left the spacecraft.
If Jesus appeared walking across the sea, helping fishermen gather a
catch, PETA and Greenpeace would be filing injections.
*From:* Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2020 8:56 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Virus
Didn't your governor procure PPE stuff in stealth mode to keep FEMAs
hands from stealing these supplies? That doesn't inept to me, Steve.
On Mon, Apr 20, 2020, 6:02 AM Matt Hoppes
<mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
This is correct, there have been a few were accidents, and other
deaths related to usual activities.
On Apr 20, 2020, at 7:53 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists
<jeffl...@att.net> wrote:
I’ll be interested to see the overall death rates for the US
during this time. I suspect that they will be down from their
usual levels, overall, even with the virus.
Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
On Apr 19, 2020, at 7:21 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Sobering to see that we have passed the number of the US
servicemen deaths in the Korean war and will probably pass
Vietnam before we are done. All in a few short months.
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