Re: [AFMUG] "Central Office" style fiber patch panels

2025-07-30 Thread Chris Fabien
We've found the pre-loaded panel with a long enough pigtail to get you outside to be the preferred approach. Our latest fiber hut has 3x 432F panels, and for now has 3x 288F coming into it. When I've tried to do a 288F in the back of a large patch-N-Splice style panel it always ends up a huge mess

Re: [AFMUG] What to do with professional Gamer

2025-06-12 Thread Chris Fabien
Quote him a DIA if he wants any sort of guaranteed service, otherwise I am sure he's on a "best effort" service plan right? Just explain once and leave it at that. On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 10:13 PM Darin Steffl wrote: > > He has to prove there's an issue. If he sends you pingplotter or MTR data >

Re: [AFMUG] Supreme Court conservatives "take a whack at NEPA"

2025-06-02 Thread Chris Fabien
I sat through a webinar from our state environmental department and according to them, when running a cable plow down a road in a potential turtle habitat, I need a dedicated person walking ahead of the plow to move turtles safely out of the way. If he misses one turtle and it gets squashed, that's

Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment

2025-05-02 Thread Chris Fabien
Years ago I had someone send me a demo unit of a ONT/router battery backup that just used 8 D-Cell Alkaline batteries. Up to the customer to replace them when they go bad or are depleted by an outage. Didn't seem like a terrible idea if you "had to offer a backup power solution" On Fri, May 2, 202

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-25 Thread Chris Fabien
ike 20+ years, there exists a prescriptive > public right of way that you can use. It is generally an adverse possession > doctrine. > > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck McCown > > McCown Technology Corporation > > 8401 N Commerce Drive > > Lake Point, Uta

Re: [AFMUG] BEAD

2025-03-24 Thread Chris Fabien
"Rural side roads in IL are a bitch because the government doesn't own the underlying asset, so you still have to get an easement from every landowner along the way." This seems like insanity to me... how does anything ever get ran underground? Back 10 years ago when I thought ROW permitting was h

Re: [AFMUG] Property Tax

2025-03-19 Thread Chris Fabien
In Michigan the tower owner would be taxed on the value of the tower and any other personal property like the hut, fencing, antennas/radios in theory. We pay tax on a fiber hut we have on leased/easement property. On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 8:40 PM Brian Webster wrote: > In NY if the land is tax ex

Re: [AFMUG] home networks

2025-01-27 Thread Chris Fabien
My experience, we find the majority of our customers do take a managed router, we charge $8/mo. If they have that, we try to be helpful as we can with home network issues including occasionally needing to send a tech out to figure out what's going on. It is not a "covers anything repair plan" thoug

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** AI Data Centers

2025-01-21 Thread Chris Fabien
This article has some nice summary level information. I think the key is that data centers are moving more toward specialized use cases of which AI is one that is attracting speculators hoping to profit on a surge of demand for AI-specialized datacenter space, of which they key characteristics seem

Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet

2025-01-07 Thread Chris Fabien
t, it was a timing limitation. Not sure > what the limit is these days. > > > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet > > Ken, yes this is a key benefit of

Re: [AFMUG] Small Outdoor Cabinet

2025-01-07 Thread Chris Fabien
TV nodes, or UVerse cabinets that had to be within a block or two of > the customer. But it seems like you could find a location for an active > electronics hut miles away along your fiber route. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 7, 2

Re: [AFMUG] Beehive Broadband

2024-12-18 Thread Chris Fabien
$77k per location? Holy Crap! On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 1:51 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > The announcement of Nevada BEAD funding included this: > > > >- Beehive Broadband: $22,025,793 for 286 locations > > > > Chuck, is that your old company? > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afm

Re: [AFMUG] Sizing DC Power Supplies

2024-12-14 Thread Chris Fabien
Can you monitor number of reboots per week or something like that? On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:13 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > We're only aware of the one incident where three neighbors all had routers > rebooting every few minutes. > > Yeah we'll have to explore for more subtle issues. > > -Adam > >

Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

2024-12-12 Thread Chris Fabien
Chuck, what model is this better charger with telemetry? On Wed, Dec 11, 2024 at 11:18 PM ch...@go-mtc.com wrote: > Dead generator start batteries used to be the bane of my existence. I > started routing them indoors where they were in a temperature controlled > environment. Never had a failur

Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

2024-12-10 Thread Chris Fabien
If it's a large quantity of diesel fuel, I have heard there are companies that will come out and filter/clean it on site refresh the additives and leave you good to go for another however long it takes for that to happen. That and cold weather performance are why we've done natural gas and propane

Re: [AFMUG] Propane and Low temps

2024-12-06 Thread Chris Fabien
You can get tank heater blankets which might help keep your portable unit running although will increase overall fuel usage. We ran into the same issue when we were considering multiple 125gal tanks to run a 50kw gas generator. The site didn't have room for a large tank but 125gal are allowed to be

Re: [AFMUG] security camera strategy

2024-12-01 Thread Chris Fabien
We had a couple issues at our office when we first moved in. Caught someone trying to get into back door, and had cats stolen off two trucks once. Had some Blink cameras at that time, only useful to confirm that yea, someone did steal the cats they didn't just disappear, and get a vague vehicle des

Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

2024-11-18 Thread Chris Fabien
What's your service agreement say? We abandon CPE pretty commonly and rarely have anyone complain. On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 12:16 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > We are starting to run into cases where customers cancel (most commonly to > get T-Mobile Home Internet) and while the CPE is still perfectly fu

Re: [AFMUG] OT: (and sorta not OT) Future of BEAD

2024-11-09 Thread Chris Fabien
We've received 4 decent size state grants, still working on the last one which was CPF funded. At this point honestly I don't want to do any more grant projects, so I would be happy if BEAD is stalled or cancelled. I'm burnt out on the pace of construction required and the economics of each one hav

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-08 Thread Chris Fabien
nder how it works without power? > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 8, 2024, at 5:31 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: > >  > You might find these interesting also: > > https://www.amazon.com/QIANRENON-Receiver-Filtering-Function-Conversion/dp/B0BYZCSTMD > > On Thu, Nov 7, 202

Re: [AFMUG] ISP level DHCP server

2024-11-08 Thread Chris Fabien
Mark, With Calix this is a few settings in the VLAN config for the data service vlan. For a typical DHCP data vlan you'll probably want: HEMLOCK-E7-2_1# show running-config vlan 121 vlan 121 description DHCP_DATA l2-dhcp-profile SNOOP_SINGLE source-verify ENABLED mff ENABLED !

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-08 Thread Chris Fabien
You might find these interesting also: https://www.amazon.com/QIANRENON-Receiver-Filtering-Function-Conversion/dp/B0BYZCSTMD On Thu, Nov 7, 2024 at 7:41 PM wrote: > So for $8.50 you can convert 1550 fiber to F connector? Great Scott! > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Thursday

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-06 Thread Chris Fabien
https://www.wseelaser.com/ftth/or20-ftth-agc-optical-node-with-wdm.html On Wed, Nov 6, 2024, 5:26 PM Nate Burke wrote: > What would you call this $10 device? > On 11/6/2024 11:17 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: > > Nate, If they want to keep the clearQAM video feed in place, that

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber and Microtrenching

2024-11-06 Thread Chris Fabien
Nate, If they want to keep the clearQAM video feed in place, that is pretty straightforward to do via RF overlay on top of a GPON or XGSPON Network. A couple pieces of equipment at the headend and a $10 optical receiver at each house. No STB required. On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 5:43 PM Nate Burke wro

Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”

2024-10-21 Thread Chris Fabien
I haven't done any real aerial work by my understanding: ADSS != dielectric drop cable (of any shape). On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 1:46 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Correct, main run cable, not drop. > > On Monday, October 21, 2024, wrote: > > And you mean ADSS with

Re: [AFMUG] Extending home network

2024-10-19 Thread Chris Fabien
There are a few NSM900 and Rocket M900 up on ebay, prices look like about what they cost new 10 years ago! We sold our M900 gear for surprising prices when we pulled it all out maybe 4 yrs ago. On Sat, Oct 19, 2024 at 5:58 PM Jan-GAMs wrote: > These take me back to the days of potato-chip cans,

Re: [AFMUG] IP TV

2024-09-18 Thread Chris Fabien
, Darin Steffl > wrote: > >  > > It's probably best to avoid TV at this point. Very low margin, lots of > issues, increasing wholesale rates, churn, etc. > > > > Lots of companies are dropping TV and pushing people to streaming instead. > > > > On Mon,

Re: [AFMUG] IP TV

2024-09-16 Thread Chris Fabien
We had an extremely bad experience with Rodeo TV, FYI. We ended up building a proper cable TV headend. It was definitely not a turnkey project. On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 3:24 PM wrote: > The last time I dug into doing TV I found anything from companies that > would help you set up a head-end to th

Re: [AFMUG] OT Problem employees

2024-09-16 Thread Chris Fabien
Ken, we have an open position currently and I'd say 90% of the resumes that come thru have what I would consider a garbage work history. Random assortment of unrelated job roles, most for less than a year. Clearly no attempt or success at anything resembling a "career". I guess this is just normal

Re: [AFMUG] fiber patch cables

2024-08-30 Thread Chris Fabien
"but I think the planned redundancy will turn out to be imaginary redundancy." I have run into this over and over again on our upstream transport/transit providers in Michigan. It's very hard to really verify diversity when some of the carriers don't even know where their plant is or what's connect

Re: [AFMUG] fiber patch cables

2024-08-29 Thread Chris Fabien
We do a lot of direct bury, including at time up to 144F. Every so often I get ashamed of myself and design a project using conduit for the larger county fiber sections. Most of those, I have ran into various problems with pulling or blowing the fiber, causing additional re-work or troubleshooting

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-03 Thread Chris Fabien
with other providers, etc? > > I want some sort of ballpark costs to know what's reasonable when we start > looking at this over wavelengths for shorter paths. > > On Thu, May 2, 2024, 2:50 PM Chris Fabien wrote: >> >> Mark, we do exactly this on a segment where we have

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-02 Thread Chris Fabien
Mark, we do exactly this on a segment where we have leased 2 strands of dark fiber on a 30mile path. The ends of the run have 8-ch DWDM Muxes and we have two spots along the run where we have an OADM in a splice case to drop out a wavelength. At those points, we set a handhole next to the carrier's

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-16 Thread Chris Fabien
PON is much more flexible mainly due to the much lower signal loss per distance. There are ways to deploy that almost exactly mirror an HFC network - There are strand mounted OLTs, you can "tap" the signal in exactly the same fashion as HFC taps where you have one active coax or fiber and the tap v

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber on bad spool

2024-03-06 Thread Chris Fabien
If you have a spare wood spool of similar or larger size, you can fashion a spool turntable pretty easily. Disassemble the good spool, one side turns into the base, mount 4 or 6 large swivel casters around the spool, and mount a 2" galvanized pipe mounted in a floor flange in the center as an axle.

Re: [AFMUG] compensation for employees

2024-01-29 Thread Chris Fabien
We have never had success with production based bonuses, it always was hurt feelings when expectations were not met or bending the criteria to make sure the productions bonus was awarded sometimes, lot of finger pointing and resentment when it wasn't met. For a while we did annual christmas bonus b

Re: [AFMUG] WDM transceivers

2023-12-21 Thread Chris Fabien
It should work. If you ever anticipate needing more channels, choose receivers with enough optical budget to allow adding the DWDM Muxes later on. On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 5:37 PM wrote: > > Dumb question of the week: > > Could I run a pair of DWDM transceivers through a CWDM multiplexer and expec

Re: [AFMUG] who caves first? charter? disney?

2023-09-07 Thread Chris Fabien
It's a dance that's been danced 1000 times before over the years. I highly doubt losing even their full TV lineup would put Charter out of business. There is very little margin in TV even for the big guys. Programming costs are completely insane and the networks want to believe they can demand what

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-15 Thread Chris Fabien
The term that got us cheap power was "unmetered CATV power supply". They allow connection of a fixed capacity power supply unit with no meter, just a small disconnect and drop a 120V 10AWG service and bill us based on half of the power supply's nameplate capacity. On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 3:45 PM C

Re: [AFMUG] "Low pass" attenuator

2023-07-11 Thread Chris Fabien
If it's for calix I'd be curious to know what you're testing... On Tue, Jul 11, 2023, 1:27 PM wrote: > Exactly. > > We were testing a different brand of XGS-PON transceiver. It works fine, > except clients stronger than about -14 don’t connect. Our current brand > alarms at -10, but functions

Re: [AFMUG] Headphones and earbuds

2023-05-12 Thread Chris Fabien
I think you're right on the money, employees are there to work not listen to music. I walked up on an employee once potholing a plastic gas service right at the edge of the pavement with headphones on, I had to scream to get his attention. Totally zero situational awareness and no way he'd have hea

Re: [AFMUG] Direct bury tracer wire reccomendations/experience.

2023-01-27 Thread Chris Fabien
There are times visual contact is just not practicable without extreme expense. We have a lot of sandy seasonal high water table areas where it's difficult to expose a line even 3ft deep, and anything deeper is impossible without dewatering and shoring. Even with a vac truck you just might catch a

Re: [AFMUG] beet juice

2023-01-27 Thread Chris Fabien
What's your application for this? On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 7:28 PM Steve Jones wrote: > > where does a guy look to find beetjuice for lowering water freezepoint that > doesnt have other additives or salt in in? saline free beet brine if you > will. Is beet soluble enough to get in powder form? >

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-27 Thread Chris Fabien
We have had mixed luck with ebay locators, and there is a pretty good chance at them being stolen so getting repairs/service could be troublesome. We ended up buying two new RD7200 they were around $5k each. We also have a used 7100 and 8100 and have been through a few RD4000. I would just buy a ne

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco SPA122

2022-12-04 Thread Chris Fabien
We have a good number of SPA112 in service still. On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 5:33 PM wrote: > > Does anyone here still use the Cisco SPA122? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailm

Re: [AFMUG] Underground Locating units

2022-12-02 Thread Chris Fabien
USIC Uses radiodetection gear, currently they are using the RD-8200. We just bought a couple RD-7200 new this year and they are very nice units. Fiber will always locate better if you can attach to the locate terminal on a splice case vs using the induction clamp FYI. On Fri, Dec 2, 2022 at 9:59 A

Re: [AFMUG] The Hartford claims

2022-11-27 Thread Chris Fabien
We have Hartford but do not have any smallish claims like that to know what their response would be. I would be more concerned about making any claim as a brand new company / policyholder. What's the $$ of the damage in question. My general policy is for a damage that we were really at fault, under

Re: [AFMUG] Datacenter power submetering

2022-10-01 Thread Chris Fabien
. > > If you're only going to have 3 or 4 tenants, I'd put a meter pack in (like > they have on apartments) and use real meters. If you do it right, the > utility company will just handle the billing. > > If you really do want to go the per circuit metering route, look

Re: [AFMUG] Datacenter power submetering

2022-10-01 Thread Chris Fabien
e bill for their power usage when > they hit peak traffic during peak power rates like at lunch time. > > On Sat, Oct 1, 2022 at 2:10 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > >> Found by googling: >> https://accucdn.accuenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/AcuRev-2100-Multi-Circuit-

[AFMUG] Datacenter power submetering

2022-10-01 Thread Chris Fabien
We are remodeling our old office building into a datacenter with 2 or 3 tenants and a 2500 sqft general retail space. I want to be able to sub-meter the power on a per-circuit basis, and ideally be able to assign a group of circuits to each tenant they serve. I have seen some inexpensive solution u

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Electronic question

2022-09-06 Thread Chris Fabien
I think you are correct about the cause of the issue, probably the easiest solution is to leave the buzzer in the main circuit, and wire a 24vac relay in parallel with it, using the relay contacts to close and open the circuit to the ding-dong bell. On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 10:08 AM wrote: > > I kn

Re: [AFMUG] BDC service

2022-08-28 Thread Chris Fabien
We have a similar problem, we have wireless customers in an area that we are over building with FTTH, and we no longer install new wireless service. This trips an error because it wants to see wireless coverage. Have not got a good response from them yet. On Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 1:56 PM Cameron Crum

[AFMUG] Larger Standby Generators

2022-08-27 Thread Chris Fabien
Our main datacenter has for years had a single 11kw residential style generac. Due to increasing power load and improving redundancy I want to upgrade to dual larger generators. Trying to decide between new 22kw air cooled residential units or used larger liquid cooled commercial style units. Mayb

Re: [AFMUG] Release of Liability Review

2022-08-13 Thread Chris Fabien
I wouldn't sign either if I were a homeowner. I think you need to more clearly define what you will and won't do, and what you can and cannot reasonably avoid. For example, you can reasonably avoid a private power run to an out building if the homeowner discloses it's existence, you should have equ

Re: [AFMUG] Type of Fiber to pull through Poly

2022-07-22 Thread Chris Fabien
Flat drop would be fine for this, use tonable if you need a locate method. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 2:27 PM Nate Burke wrote: > > I need to pull 12 strand fiber through a 1.25" poly. About 1500' and 4 > handholes. It's been a couple years since we've done physical fiber > installation undergroun

Re: [AFMUG] Door Access Control System (self-install, self-hosted)

2022-06-16 Thread Chris Fabien
I just installed the ubnt access system. Already had unifi and the right controller box. Easy install. Works fine. I think their video reader might have an access code option but we just used the lite reader. On Thu, Jun 16, 2022, 2:02 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wr

Re: [AFMUG] Utility Pole Rating

2022-02-18 Thread Chris Fabien
I think for antenna mounting your limiting criteria may not be the pole strength related to it breaking but the stiffness related to antenna deflection during wind events mis-aligning your antennas. If you're only mounting APs it would be less of an issue than for a backhaul. On Wed, Feb 16, 2022

Re: [AFMUG] underground footage expectations

2022-02-08 Thread Chris Fabien
We have pretty favorable conditions for both drilling/plowing. We do work in house and also hire some out. Last year we paid $5-8/ft for drilling and $1.50-2/ft for plowing. Production, when I drill with one other guy locating, in open ground we can usually do >1000ft in a full day although often i

Re: [AFMUG] GIS

2022-02-08 Thread Chris Fabien
Cameron, I'm curious how you feel manifold compares to mapinfo. I use mapinfo to do our fiber plans, mainly just drawing lines/points/text on aerial photo and parcel data layers and exporting to PDF via layout one sheet at a time. It's slow and cumbersome, but it's paid for and I know it. Would Man

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans

2022-02-07 Thread Chris Fabien
We have a local bank that was willing to do a 5 year loan for working capital on a fiber build that was partially grant funded. 5% interest. Maybe we got lucky but we had our books in order and had done a projected cashflow study as part of the grant and they easily understood why the project and l

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 dial plan

2022-01-27 Thread Chris Fabien
Hi Carl Here is what we are using on our E7s. Note this does not support 7-digit dialling as we are in an area where that was mandated to be removed. But it does allow 10 and 11 digit calls. Note that the order of these rules matters, it matches top down. ^911n ^411 ^988 ^[2-9][0-9]{9} ^1[2-9][0-9]

Re: [AFMUG] CWDM vs DWDM, Single Fiber vs Dual fiber

2022-01-26 Thread Chris Fabien
If there may ever be an opportunity to use this path to connect to another network via a handhole meet, you should try to use the same technology on your side. We have two handhole meets where a carrier drops a DWDM 10G wave out from longhaul and we take it into an add drop module and into our DWDM

Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit

2021-11-09 Thread Chris Fabien
to get it out? or do you just leave it in there? >> >> >> bp >> >> >> On 11/8/2021 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> > Cheap is a selling point for me. We have started to put stuff down >> > conduit with water rather than air. So far

Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit

2021-11-08 Thread Chris Fabien
I would just use normal duct of whatever size is appropriate . That just doesn't look as sturdy as solid wall of plastic. Looks like being more flexible is the key selling point. On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 7:02 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > No, not smurf tube. It is corrugated micro duct. > > Se

Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-11-02 Thread Chris Fabien
The damages we have been paid on, we have not submitted much of a detailed bill. Simple description of the damaged facilities, relevant facts, and Cost to Repair: $.xx. Have been paid by local power company, auto insurance, and our customers. Have an $8000 damage invoice out to local road commi

Re: [AFMUG] before and after VFL

2021-09-28 Thread Chris Fabien
I have had a fiber break in a splice case weeks after it was spliced, similar to this pic. All I could reason was pre-existing scratch or kink or something that I didn't notice and it finally broke from temp cycling or vibration, both of which are pretty minimal in a handhole but it did happen. On

Re: [AFMUG] Long run - low draw batteries for Regen locations

2021-09-11 Thread Chris Fabien
TJ got any links or shopping lists for a solid lithium pack solution for a low draw application like this? We have a regen cabinet going in soon pretty much same situation except I haven't chose the switch yet so could be DC. On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:45 PM TJ Trout wrote: > > if it's carrier gr

Re: [AFMUG] Cable Ties

2021-09-08 Thread Chris Fabien
We like Frosty Ties from US Cable Ties. On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 12:32 PM Matt wrote: > > What is everyone's favorite cables ties? Prefer ones that don't snap > after a few years in UV. > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing

Re: [AFMUG] Momentum Telcom?

2021-08-10 Thread Chris Fabien
uot;. I had never heard of Momentum, I wondered if > they actually went under or something. I appreciate the dialogue. > > > - Original Message - > From: Chris Fabien > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2021 9:18 AM > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Momentum Telcom?

2021-08-10 Thread Chris Fabien
Is it really two full days of outage or just, on it's second day today? As I'm sure you know it's very possible for a fiber cut to take more than 24 hours to restore. We had a windstream cut recently that took 30 hours. And, our other carrier had a maintenance event overnight that same night they c

Re: [AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Chris Fabien
o >> tell you if it's leaking. You'll find out when something dies. >> >> >> On 7/28/2021 9:39 AM, Chris Fabien wrote: >> > We need to upgrade a roadside FTTH cabinet to a small building. I've >> > never started from scratch before. It will house m

[AFMUG] Building a CO

2021-07-28 Thread Chris Fabien
We need to upgrade a roadside FTTH cabinet to a small building. I've never started from scratch before. It will house maybe 2 racks of equipment. I'm thinking 10x15 or 10x20 footprint. I know a used tower shelter is an option but I'm leaning towards a real building, maybe concrete for tornado resis

Re: [AFMUG] Fax line replacement

2021-06-16 Thread Chris Fabien
We use FaxSIPit for this. It is an HTTPS relay method and works well. Number porting is done manually but they handle it quickly, their porting coverage is maybe not as great as say Voip Innovations coverage. They do have support available that knows the system and can resolve issues. The only chan

Re: [AFMUG] GPON through MUX?

2021-04-05 Thread Chris Fabien
Adam, GPON is 1310/1490. There are definitely ways to overlay DWDM. We overlay 1550 RF video over our GPON and it's probably a way wider signal than DWDM would be. On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 4:33 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > > GPON is 1490 down and 1550 up > > I've been using CWDM which overlaps that. I

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AP replacement

2021-02-12 Thread Chris Fabien
Upgrade the M5 AP to a rocket 5AC with the updated firmware on the stations will work well and give you a significant performance improvement on a loaded M5 AP. On Fri, Feb 12, 2021, 5:54 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > Yes, the AC APs are backwards compatible. You can't connect an airmax AC > client

Re: [AFMUG] router programming

2021-01-17 Thread Chris Fabien
With that list of specs I would be comfortable using a Tik CCR. If you want to start doing multiple upstream with full tables BGP I would go to Juniper. We just finally switched our edge routing to Juniper and it really should have been a couple years ago. On Fri, Jan 15, 2021, 5:52 PM Chuck McCow

Re: [AFMUG] Need a 200-400 watt load

2021-01-07 Thread Chris Fabien
I killed a Tripp-Lite UPS once using a 750 watt space heater to try to load test. Their excuse was spike of inrush as heater element heated up. Sounded like BS to me and they did RMA it but anyway if you use light bulbs I'd plug them in one at a time to avoid a similar situation. On Thu, Jan 7, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations

2020-12-31 Thread Chris Fabien
We Just pulled a Maxxwave Vengence CHR from an edge router role. Had some major major issues with iBGP route convergence with another x86 based mikrotik router where each router had a full table from an upstream and they needed to synchronize between them. Even when we moved the upstreams to all be

Re: [AFMUG] OT glad I lived this long

2020-12-29 Thread Chris Fabien
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Getting pretty dang close on this one I think. Amazing stuff. On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 11:33 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT PPE

2020-12-24 Thread Chris Fabien
For vac ex crew you might look into some of the goggles that dirt bike racers and the like use with plastic tear-offs to clear the mud. When I have run the vac to be honest I found safety glasses too annoying to use because they got dirty in about 10 seconds and once you're covered in mud there's n

Re: [AFMUG] stabilizing an Unguyed tower

2020-12-21 Thread Chris Fabien
> ----- Original Message - > From: "Chris Fabien" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020 9:42:12 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] stabilizing an Unguyed tower > > Just make him rent a lift when you need to service it. Not y

Re: [AFMUG] stabilizing an Unguyed tower

2020-12-21 Thread Chris Fabien
Just make him rent a lift when you need to service it. Not your fault he build a sketchy tower. I think your proposed guy wires would do little improve climber comfort and zero to improve actual safety. On Mon, Dec 21, 2020 at 10:20 PM Craig House wrote: > > The attached drawing is rough but I ho

Re: [AFMUG] OT vac ex in freezing temps

2020-12-04 Thread Chris Fabien
I would add a diesel powered water heater like hot water pressure washers use into the pressure circuit. This would help keep the vacuum hose from freezing while excavating, and then set up a recirculate system where they disconnect the wand and plug the end of the hose into a fitting that returns

Re: [AFMUG] Time on Analog Phones

2020-11-06 Thread Chris Fabien
Time comes in the Caller ID data. Your ATA or ONT needs to know the correct time. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:55 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > That's kinda where I'm at too. I'm sure our ATA's were giving time to > people's handsets too because this came up a lot after they changed the > daylight savi

Re: [AFMUG] OT compensation

2020-10-30 Thread Chris Fabien
Chuck, I like your idea but I think the pay for each category is too low for some of them. A competent drill operator or splicer should be worth much more than $16/hr. Likewise a guy that can literally do any job in the company is probably a $30/hr guy not $20/hr. On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 7:16 PM

Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths

2020-10-20 Thread Chris Fabien
Jared - " What you can do is transport multiple PONs over a single fiber using CWDM wavelengths. However, you need to do an OEO conversion at the remote side back to standard wavelengths and have separate PON trees for each wavelength." Can you elaborate on what it takes to make this happen? Is th

Re: [AFMUG] OT metal detectors

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Fabien
Our water guys use something like this: https://www.schonstedt.com/products/ga-52cx/ But I have only ever seen them use it to find valve lids or risers that have been covered by a little bit of dirt or paved over. Tell the drill guys next time they break off priority #1 is mark where the head is!

Re: [AFMUG] GPON over radio

2020-09-22 Thread Chris Fabien
. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:30 PM wrote: > With Calix you can go way beyond 20 km if you split less. So the timing > for them is not as tight as the GPON spec. > > *From:* Chris Fabien > *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2020 8:08 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >

Re: [AFMUG] GPON over radio

2020-09-20 Thread Chris Fabien
I've talked to someone who made a GPON extender out of back to back SFPs so its probably not entirely nuts. The timing range is pretty narrow so you'll have to consider any delay in the radio link will be significant. Many platforms the nearest to furthest ONU must be within 20km even if they are a

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

2020-09-09 Thread Chris Fabien
Sorry I meant slack of the outside flat drop intact, takes about a 12" square box to be able to make it coil in there. On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 9:17 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > This has slack storage and a splice holder. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 9, 2020, at 6:36 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] My solution

2020-09-09 Thread Chris Fabien
We had way more field failures with AFL Fastconnects than after we switched to spliced pigtails. We use a little larger NID that allows for some slack storage and has a splice holder. Tii 506F. Chris On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 8:13 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > I think I will switch to a mechanical. To

Re: [AFMUG] Possible Fiber project for school

2020-09-09 Thread Chris Fabien
Mark, I am NOT at all an e-rate expert, we have only ever bid on one project. But, I believe there is a requirement that the school can only get funding for special construction (your option 1) if they were unable to purchase the services they need on a monthly service basis. I think you may want

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

2020-09-09 Thread Chris Fabien
They use ARP spoofing and can definitely cause problems. We tested one and they were not compatible with the SmartRG SR400 routers we use. Their support was no help whatsoever either. On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 4:59 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > H, does that work seamlessly, or could it cause problems

Re: [AFMUG] Possible Fiber project for school

2020-09-09 Thread Chris Fabien
If you have the strands available #2 is the money maker. On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 3:50 PM wrote: > There is also fabric innerduct which you can use to sub-duct an occupied > duct. However, in a 1.25" duct it will be a *really* tight squeeze. > > > Jared > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 09 > > From

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream Bandwidth Question

2020-08-28 Thread Chris Fabien
Mark, I would go for option B as well, as long as you can thoroughly verify that you're achieving a completely diverse path. That way as you grow, assuming you keep the links the same size over the years you're at 2/3 capacity in an outage not 1/2 capacity. The verify it's actually redundant can b

Re: [AFMUG] Installer tool list

2020-08-25 Thread Chris Fabien
Takes a 1/2" bit to pass a pre-terminated SC connector, unless you are using the type where you put on the connector shell later. On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 3:14 PM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Where do you buy those booger picks? > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 2:05 PM wrote: > >> 5’ step ladder >> >> *Fro

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Geothermal Power Quality

2020-08-14 Thread Chris Fabien
It's probably a precautionary statement rather than a "this will not work". Depending on the quality and size of the generator you could have issues starting the compressor for example and end up feeding high current into a stalled motor until a breaker trips. I would expect a modern geothermal sys

Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

2020-08-13 Thread Chris Fabien
I would say no on both of those. If you want to push through microduct you need a real stiff cable. That makes it not so nice for the rest of the install. If you want a premade assembly that you can staple around a house or to joists in a basement, look at the Corning rugged drop cables. They have

Re: [AFMUG] CPE Install Costs.xlsx

2020-08-12 Thread Chris Fabien
Chuck, we are close to your proposed design. We use a Tii 506f NID, fusion splice pigtail, pre-terminated cable assembly from NID to biscuit style wall jack. Either a corning RuggedDrop for ~$25-35 or one of the blue fiberstore cables Mark linked, which are our default unless we need to house wrap

Re: [AFMUG] SC-APC patch Cables

2020-07-25 Thread Chris Fabien
Graybar stocks a corning rugged drop assembly which is a 5mm indoor outdoor cable with single tight buffer BIF with SC APC on either end. 100ft is about $40 I think. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020, 2:50 PM Nate Burke wrote: > Anyone have a good US Source for SC-APC Patch cables, 30M indoor. Most > of wh

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