Can you monitor number of reboots per week or something like that?

On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 6:13 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We're only aware of the one incident where three neighbors all had routers
> rebooting every few minutes.
>
> Yeah we'll have to explore for more subtle issues.
>
> -Adam
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Darin Steffl <
> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2024 5:44 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sizing DC Power Supplies
>
> That's not good then. Did the router reboot frequently? Maybe then you can
> generate a report that targets devices that reboot frequently and may need
> a power supply replacement.
>
> It'd be horrible to lose customers over this if you're not proactive and
> they decide not to report issues.
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024, 6:38 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We have more than 500 units.  I think we're just supposed to stock them
> and use as needed.
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Darin Steffl <
> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2024 2:50 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sizing DC Power Supplies
>
> I'm glad they acknowledged the issue so quickly and are sending
> replacements. I cringe at the possibility of sending techs to 500 customers
> just to swap a power supply though. You could ask the customer to come into
> the office to swap but they'll view that as a hassle and want you to
> schedule a tech. The upside is it's a 5 minute job.
>
> You could wait until a customer reports the issue but we all know that
> many customers won't report it. They'll just suffer in silence and assume
> you suck with dropouts due to reboots. Then they'll cancel for another
> provider. So you almost have to be proactive to swap out all the power
> supplies to get ahead of the issue and keep customers from noticing the
> problem.
>
> Send us a picture of the spec label of the new ones to see how it compares
> to the old ones.
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 3:41 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:
>
> Well, that kinda sucks.  I hope the good and bad ones are easily
> identifiable, otherwise you may need to come up with a way to mark them so
> customers can tell.  Like a big green sticky dot or something.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
> *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2024 7:55 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sizing DC Power Supplies
>
>
>
> In case anyone was curious, Nokia says there was a known issue with power
> supplies manufactured before Sep 2023 for ONT models XS-2426X-A,
> XS-2426G-B, and G-2426G-B.
>
>
>
> They're sending us 500 replacements.  I just wish they had notified us
> about it ahead of time.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
>
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> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Darin Steffl <
> darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 11, 2024 5:24 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Sizing DC Power Supplies
>
>
>
> You're probably right about this. It seems the power supply should supply
> at least 2.2 to 2.5A to be safe near maximum power listed in the specs. I'd
> reach out to support at Nokia about this too. I'm no expert on this topic
> though so just guessing.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2024, 7:10 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So riddle me this:
>
>
>
> Let's say you have this 12V device which needs a maximum of 24.3 Watts.
>
>
>
> What amperage of 12V switching power supply would you spec for this
> device?   Personally, I'd go for around 2.5 - 3.0 Amps so I have a safety
> margin.
>
>
>
>
>
> Nokia supplies a 12V 2.0 Amp.
>
>
>
> So 24VA to supply up to 24.3W.  If those numbers are real, then isn't that
> undersized to start with?
>
>
>
> I would never have looked except that we have 3 of these on the same
> street all rebooting every few minutes, and they all started doing it at
> the same time this morning.  It so happens they're all getting electric
> service off the same transformer, so I'm imagining there's low voltage or
> some other condition making the DC power supply a little less efficient and
> now it ain't got the juice to keep the device running.  In which case
> someone at Nokia is an idiot.  Please tell me if I'm the crazy one here.
>
>
>
> -Adam
>
>
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