Ken, we have an open position currently and I'd say 90% of the resumes that come thru have what I would consider a garbage work history. Random assortment of unrelated job roles, most for less than a year. Clearly no attempt or success at anything resembling a "career". I guess this is just normal now?
On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 11:57 AM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: > Based on Internet posts, one thing Gen XYZ seems to understand is that a > PIP (performance improvement plan) or CAP (corrective action plan) > basically means you’re getting fired and should start your job search now. > They don’t take it as a wake up call to improve. > > > > Over the past decade or two, loyalty and trust between employers and > employees seems to have mutually gone to zero. The idea of a “career” or > working at the same place for years is gone, and both sides blame the > other. Big corporations that regularly overhire and then lay off to > appease shareholders don’t help. Yet billionaire owners like Musk expect > “extreme hardcore” effort from employees who sleep on the floor. Seems > like local small businesses and family owned businesses are collateral > damage in all this. Younger workers learn from their reddits and tiktoks > that they are expendable and so they owe no loyalty or hard work to their > job. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com > *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2024 10:29 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Problem employees > > > > We do write them up. But a bit of a harsh ass chewing seems to yield much > better results much quicker than gentle feed back, mentoring, multiple > reviews etc. > > > > Best Regards, > Chuck McCown > > McCown Technology Corporation > 8401 N Commerce Dr > Lake Point, Utah 84074 > 801-250-9503 Office > 435-830-4306 Cell > www.mccowntech.com > www.microtrench.pro > www.terabitnetworks.com > > > > *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com > > *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2024 9:04 AM > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Problem employees > > > > I read a book that was about cultivating a high performance team. Bottom > line was similar to the seminar you mention, but slightly different. > > > > The short version is set expectations clearly, have regular reviews, and > make it clear when expectations are not being met. After a few bad reviews > the most likely outcomes are that they improve or they find another job and > go away on their own. If they don’t do either one then you have > documentation of these reviews and you can drop them without fear of any > unfounded accusations. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com > *Sent:* Saturday, September 14, 2024 4:22 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Problem employees > > > > I many years ago I went to a skilpath seminar on what to do with problem > employees. After two days the bottom line was that you probably will not > change them, learn to live with them or fire them. > > > > So for a number of years I gave them gentle performance reviews, some > respectful feedback and then fired the ones the did not perform. There was > some positive outcomes. We frequently could find someone better for the > position. I used to say that I have never regretted firing anyone and > almost always realized that I should have done it long ago. And I have > remarked that part of our success is that we did fire people. I still > believe that is true and is good advice. > > > > But in the past few years I have changed my view and tactic a little bit. > I got tired of performance reviews, coaching, coddling, firing etc. I > just started chewing ass. Not to the point that I created permanent > psychic damage, but certainly some temporary psychic damage. One gen Z kid > told me the next day that he was OK, had a cry in his car but he is now > OK. And he is now OK, good performer. > > > > I decided I did not want to waste the training I invested. And that if > they could survive the ass chewing and learn from it, I ended up overall in > a better situation and they did too. So far I haven’t fired anyone since > starting this I don’t think. One guy is on thin ice but he only got his > ass chewing on Thursday. We will see if can pull it out. > > > > Sick of coddling Gen Z. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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