I haven't done any real aerial work by my understanding:  ADSS !=
dielectric drop cable (of any shape).

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 1:46 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> Correct, main run cable, not drop.
>
> On Monday, October 21, 2024, <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And you mean ADSS with the layer of aramid under the jacket?  You don’t
> mean aerial drop cable?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 11:20 PM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”
> >
> >
> >
> > I exclusively use ADSS for my aerial plant. Much easier to put up, and
> you don't have to deal with strand or lashing. The option for having it in
> the power space can be nice as well. The attachment hardware is similar to
> what you use for guy wire dead ends, along with what you show above for
> straighter spans where you don't need fiber access, it is pretty specific
> to the cable size. The hardware is a bit pricey, not too bad though.
> >
> > On Saturday, October 19, 2024, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> When I search for ADSS cable I get this type:
> >>
> </mail/u/0/s/?view=att&th=192a7b655b7dd5fd&attid=0.0.1&disp=emb&zw&atsh=1>
> >>
> >> They attach with hangers that grip a wide area around the cable like
> this one:
> >>
> </mail/u/0/s/?view=att&th=192a7b655b7dd5fd&attid=0.0.2&disp=emb&zw&atsh=1>
> >>
> >> When you say ADSS that’s what I’m picturing.
> >> That attachment hardware is expensive.  The cable itself is expensive.
> I’ve never worked with it but everyone says it’s more difficult.  You use
> it because you can get the fiber count of an OSP cable without having a
> strand.  Some Elco’s will allow it in the power space.  You need installers
> qualified to work in the power space, but sometimes people find that
> preferable to make ready to make room in the comm space.
> >> So in my mind ADSS is a specific thing with a specific purpose.  I
> suspect drop cable predates that stuff and people are applying the term to
> drop cable retroactively because most aerial drop cable meets the literal
> definition of the words. Usually being the important word there because you
> can order service drop cable which isn’t all dielectric and self
> supporting.
> >>
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> >> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> on behalf of Jan-GAMs <
> j.vank...@grnacres.net>
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2024 4:31:04 PM
> >> To: af@af.afmug.com <af@af.afmug.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] “ADSS”
> >>
> >> What does the manufacturer have to say?
> >>
> >> On 10/19/24 08:48, Adam Moffett wrote:
> >>> There’s something driving me nuts lately.
> >>>
> >>> In your minds, does the term ADSS apply to *any* non-conducting, self
> >>> supporting cable?  Or does it apply more specifically to an OSP cable
> >>> a central strength member and a concentric layer of aramid under the
> >>> jacket?
> >>>
> >>> There’s an entire department at our company which keeps referring to
> >>> 12F loose tube service drop cable as “ADSS”.  I tried explaining that
> >>> it’s not the same thing, and they’ve argued that it is.  My position
> >>> is that if I order an aerial service drop cable without any metallic
> >>> components then it meets the literal meaning of “All Dielectric Self
> >>> Supporting”, but that ADSS refers more narrowly to a specific cable
> >>> which has different attachment hardware and different installation
> >>> methods.  I’ve further suggested that calling drop cable “ADSS” is
> >>> going to cause confusion among vendors and contractors if it hasn’t
> >>> already.
> >>>
> >>> Am I the crazy one?
> >>>
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