[RBW] Re: Building my new Bombadil... at last!!!

[Orthie251]

Well, here is the last update for tonight... it's past midnight and I
have to go to work tomorrow... :-(

Finished installing the drivetrain:
- Shimano XT low-normal rear derailer and XT front derailer. Had to
reverse the B-screw to clear the 12-36 rear cassette, since I'm not
using a Shadow rear derailer. Have yet to install the shifters and
cables, they'll go last after I tape the handlebar. The Shimano Dura-
Ace chain went at full length, no need to cut it.
- Installed the front brake, Paul polished Neo-Retro. To get the 3"
recommended in the instructions above the tire for the cable hanger, I
had to use a regular brake cable as the hanger cable that came with
the brakes was too short. May need to get a longer one just so it has
the little tab to facilitate engaging/disengaging it. I also used Velo-
Orange Rene Herse style cable hangers, instead of the standard (ugly)
ones that come with the brakes. Took my sweet time to set up
everything, we'll see tomorrow how it works...

Added the photos from this last part to the set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/

Tomorrow we shall continue...

René



On Dec 7, 9:25 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today in the afternoon there was a very nice break in the rain and I drove
> up to RBW to pick up my new Bombadil frame. Such a long anticipation...

>
> Pictures of current progress can be found here: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/
>
> René

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[RBW] a snowy mt. diablo

[erik jensen]

Hi RBWers,

The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered Mt.
Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite unique,
and it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in CA.

Post here;
http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html

Cheers,

erik
-- 
berkeley, ca
bikenoir.blogspot.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Bruce]

One of the great things about merino wool is that it continues to keep you 
warm, even when you do sweat and it gets wet. You will perspire with exercise, 
but the proper amount of venting will allow you to avoid being drenched in 
sweat inside your kit. This is why the outer jackets have zippered slits you 
open of close as needed.





From: shawn 
 The trickiest part seems to be
figuring out how to dress warm enough, but not sweat so as to not end
up with the chills later as I start to cool down.


  

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Re: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Bruce]

Chris:

 You have to spend a little effort to look around if you want to do better than 
the prices on the wool websites. SOmetimes, list memebers here will have stuff 
to sell, and of course, you can watch Ebay too.  Here is a link to wool 
baselayers on sale at Backcountryoutlet right now.

http://www.backcountryoutlet.com/outlet/group/10403/Mens-Cycling-Base-Layers.html

(The Sugoi is a nice one.)

Check out the Australian sites as well. (Google is your friend. Kosmix too)


http://www.kosmix.com/topic/wool_baselayer





From: Christopher Paul 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 8, 2009 12:36:13 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?


Does anyone have any good ideas for finding good deals on wool t-shirt
base layers?  I'm stunned at how much these things are going for!

Cheers!
Chris


  

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet in the Cyclofiend Gallery

[Angus]

Very nice looking bike!

Mine is moreaesthetically challenged.  :-)

Angus

On Dec 7, 12:04 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> First of the updates for this week included Mitch's sharp-looking
> Rambouillet -
>
> http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc728-mitchgraham1209.html
>
> - Jim
>
> --
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> Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com
> Current Classics - Cross Bikes
> Singlespeed - Working Bikes
>
> Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines

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Re: [RBW] Re: Building my new Bombadil... at last!!!

[Ray Shine]

Rene -- Looking forward to a maiden voyage report.  You hit a home run with the 
color scheme! Fantastic looking green.



--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Orthie251  wrote:

From: Orthie251 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Building my new Bombadil... at last!!!
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 12:25 AM

Well, here is the last update for tonight... it's past midnight and I
have to go to work tomorrow... :-(

Finished installing the drivetrain:
- Shimano XT low-normal rear derailer and XT front derailer. Had to
reverse the B-screw to clear the 12-36 rear cassette, since I'm not
using a Shadow rear derailer. Have yet to install the shifters and
cables, they'll go last after I tape the handlebar. The Shimano Dura-
Ace chain went at full length, no need to cut it.
- Installed the front brake, Paul polished Neo-Retro. To get the 3"
recommended in the instructions above the tire for the cable hanger, I
had to use a regular brake cable as the hanger cable that came with
the brakes was too short. May need to get a longer one just so it has
the little tab to facilitate engaging/disengaging it. I also used Velo-
Orange Rene Herse style cable hangers, instead of the standard (ugly)
ones that come with the brakes. Took my sweet time to set up
everything, we'll see tomorrow how it works...

Added the photos from this last part to the set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/

Tomorrow we shall continue...

René



On Dec 7, 9:25 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today in the afternoon there was a very nice break in the rain and I drove
> up to RBW to pick up my new Bombadil frame. Such a long anticipation...

>
> Pictures of current progress can be found here: 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/
>
> René

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Re: [RBW] a snowy mt. diablo

[Ray Shine]

Greta shots, Erik.  Don't see those sorts of pix around here much. Rather 
enchanting.

RS

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, erik jensen  wrote:

From: erik jensen 
Subject: [RBW] a snowy mt. diablo
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 12:25 AM

Hi RBWers,
The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered Mt. 
Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite unique, and 
it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in CA.

Post here;
http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html
Cheers,

erik-- 
berkeley, ca
bikenoir.blogspot.com





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[RBW] Black Friday Ride Report

[rperks]

Still Catching up on the photo backlog.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302...@n08/sets/72157622960339922/

The friday after Thanksgiving I made it out for a fun morning picture
ride. I was visiting family on the central California coast for the
Holiday weekend, and rode this loop, with a little extra thrown in:

www.slobc.org/route/RideServer.php?Label =pozo&SubDir=...

There is a bit of long straight out and back from the house to start
the loop.  The day started off at the 30F but quickly warmed up into
the 50F range to make for a beautiful Winter day. The trees were
starting to show their fall color. The usual farm and wildlife was out
in force as usual, cows, sheep, birds etc. The standouts were a HUGE
pig in the middle of a climb and a group of dear including a 4 piont
buck.  Pretty much a perfect morning.

Riv content is in the controls: RM013 bars (wide), shifters, brakes
and Hobo bag

I am excited to get the Roadeo out on this loop, probably be a couple
months untill I am back up there though.

Rob

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[RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[JoelMatthews]

> Does anyone have any good ideas for finding good deals on wool t-shirt
> base layers?  I'm stunned at how much these things are going for!

Keep in mind the new wool base layers are not priced the way they are
because the people at Ibex and Patagonia are living large on motor
yachts anchored by a casino in Monaco.

In order to be comfortable, base layers need to start with relatively
rare merino wool and then go through a labor intensive spinning
process.

The end result is worth the money in my opinion.  You get a base layer
that does not itch the way a regular wool garment does but does not
wind of stinking (no matter how many times you wash them) the way the
plastic layers do.  The fact many of the merino wool providers work to
keep their production as clean as possibly is topping on the cake.

On Dec 8, 12:36 am, Christopher Paul  wrote:
> Greetings to all cold & wet weather riders!
>
> Last year I was riding with a gentleman twice my age (86 years young)
> in the rain and he was dry and cheerful while I was cold & not so
> cheerful.  He convinced me to get a polypropelyne jacket with a hood.
> I did and it was the best $20 I have ever spent (I was lucky & got it
> on sale at our lbs).  What makes this unique is that it breathes and
> its waterproof.  Plus it actually works. It come with a stuff sack, so
> its packs up into a small and convenient size.  The one I have has a
> label that simply says "RSI".
>
> Does anyone have any good ideas for finding good deals on wool t-shirt
> base layers?  I'm stunned at how much these things are going for!
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:18 PM, kent  wrote:
> > The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
> > insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
> > synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
> > but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
> > layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?
>
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Re: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I have close to a dozen, most of them as new, the others almost as
new, crew, button and turtlenecks, in a variety of fashionable colors,
each $4.69 from the nearby Goodwill.

If you do buy from thrift stores, be careful to check for moth holes.

On 12/7/09, Christopher Paul  wrote:
> Greetings to all cold & wet weather riders!
>
> Last year I was riding with a gentleman twice my age (86 years young)
> in the rain and he was dry and cheerful while I was cold & not so
> cheerful.  He convinced me to get a polypropelyne jacket with a hood.
> I did and it was the best $20 I have ever spent (I was lucky & got it
> on sale at our lbs).  What makes this unique is that it breathes and
> its waterproof.  Plus it actually works. It come with a stuff sack, so
> its packs up into a small and convenient size.  The one I have has a
> label that simply says "RSI".
>
> Does anyone have any good ideas for finding good deals on wool t-shirt
> base layers?  I'm stunned at how much these things are going for!
>
> Cheers!

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[RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[JoelMatthews]

> The end result is worth the money in my opinion.  You get a base layer
> that does not itch the way a regular wool garment does but does not
> wind of stinking (no matter how many times you wash them) the way the
> plastic layers do.  The fact many of the merino wool providers work to
> keep their production as clean as possibly is topping on the cake.

Sorry, I had cut an edit but forgot to paste before sending.  Should
read:

You get a base layer that does not itch as a regular wool garment and
does not wind up stinking (no matter how many times you wach them) as
plastic layers do.

On Dec 8, 8:17 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> > Does anyone have any good ideas for finding good deals on wool t-shirt
> > base layers?  I'm stunned at how much these things are going for!
>
> Keep in mind the new wool base layers are not priced the way they are
> because the people at Ibex and Patagonia are living large on motor
> yachts anchored by a casino in Monaco.
>
> In order to be comfortable, base layers need to start with relatively
> rare merino wool and then go through a labor intensive spinning
> process.
>
> The end result is worth the money in my opinion.  You get a base layer
> that does not itch the way a regular wool garment does but does not
> wind of stinking (no matter how many times you wash them) the way the
> plastic layers do.  The fact many of the merino wool providers work to
> keep their production as clean as possibly is topping on the cake.
>
> On Dec 8, 12:36 am, Christopher Paul  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Greetings to all cold & wet weather riders!
>
> > Last year I was riding with a gentleman twice my age (86 years young)
> > in the rain and he was dry and cheerful while I was cold & not so
> > cheerful.  He convinced me to get a polypropelyne jacket with a hood.
> > I did and it was the best $20 I have ever spent (I was lucky & got it
> > on sale at our lbs).  What makes this unique is that it breathes and
> > its waterproof.  Plus it actually works. It come with a stuff sack, so
> > its packs up into a small and convenient size.  The one I have has a
> > label that simply says "RSI".
>
> > Does anyone have any good ideas for finding good deals on wool t-shirt
> > base layers?  I'm stunned at how much these things are going for!
>
> > Cheers!
> > Chris
>
> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:18 PM, kent  wrote:
> > > The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
> > > insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
> > > synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
> > > but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
> > > layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?
>
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[RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

[sean]

That's Chela Metzger's Saluki. She is one of the UT Libraries (and
School of Information) Rivendell contingent.

Sean


On Dec 7, 11:13 pm, Cycletex  wrote:
> I see that one several times a week around the Hyde Park area. Serious
> commuter. I've complemented her on her bike while riding my Quickbeam
> but haven't talked with her more than that.
>
> Clifhttp://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/
>
> On Dec 7, 9:57 pm, Beardpapa  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I walked out of the Clay Pit on Guadalupe today and saw this:
>
> >http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/beardpapa/saluki.jpg
>
> > Anyone?
>
> > On Dec 3, 12:26 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > Shawn,
>
> > > Tyler State Park (just north of town) is a good place for bike
> > > camping.  I've done a couple of S24Os there.
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/sets/72157612820991950/
>
> > > Angus
>
> > > On Dec 2, 10:20 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > > Angus,
> > > > I'm not in Tyler often, but am happy to know you are representing
> > > > there. I would like to camp out that way sometime, I've heard it's
> > > > really beautiful there.
>
> > > > On Dec 1, 9:17 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > > > That is a great looking RB-T Shawn!  Love those bikes.
>
> > > > > I'm a bit further away, but there are other like minded cyclists in
> > > > > the great state of Texas.
>
> > > > > Angus "Tyler TX"
>
> > > > > If you are ever in the area...
>
> > > > > On Nov 30, 8:47 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > > > > HI All,
> > > > > > I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would 
> > > > > > finally
> > > > > > introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell (I'm 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
> > > > > > welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant Petersen
> > > > > > philosophy and look forward to participating in future 
> > > > > > conversations.
> > > > > > Here are some pics of my bikes:
>
> > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/
>
> > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/
>
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Shawn
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RE: [RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Frederick, Steve]

The best lightweight wind shell I've used is this from Voler:

http://www.velowear.com/products/1010277PRTXSM.aspx

Very light, packable and durable for it's weight.

They do the same basic jacket in several designs/colors--look for the mesh 
sides and reversable zipper which are key.  (and which make it very breathable) 
 Not waterproof, tho. And sized snug so size up for a roomy fit.

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:36 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?


I am really appreciating this thread. Here in ATX we have had
unusually cold and wet days. It is making my Texas blood feel thinner
than it already is. I still have not mastered the "perfect" riding
combo. But, I am gathering some great ideas here. For one, I realized
recently that I need more of a light shell instead of the outer layer
of the parka I have been wearing. The trickiest part seems to be
figuring out how to dress warm enough, but not sweat so as to not end
up with the chills later as I start to cool down.

On Dec 6, 10:18 pm, kent  wrote:
> The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
> insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
> synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
> but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
> layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?

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[RBW] Re: a snowy mt. diablo

[Esteban]

Erik - great stuff -- at least nice to see for us costal
Californians.  Our local mountains got snow down to 3,000 ft. with
about 6" so far.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Dec 8, 5:18 am, Ray Shine  wrote:
> Greta shots, Erik.  Don't see those sorts of pix around here much. Rather 
> enchanting.
>
> RS
>
> --- On Tue, 12/8/09, erik jensen  wrote:
>
> From: erik jensen 
> Subject: [RBW] a snowy mt. diablo
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 12:25 AM
>
> Hi RBWers,
> The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered Mt. 
> Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite unique, and 
> it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in CA.
>
> Post here;http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html
> Cheers,
>
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[RBW] Re: a snowy mt. diablo

[Mike]

Erik, great shots. Thanks for putting the link up here.

Did Mt Tam get dusted (no pun intended)?

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Re: [RBW] Re: a snowy mt. diablo

[Anne Paulson]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Mike  wrote:
> Erik, great shots. Thanks for putting the link up here.
>
> Did Mt Tam get dusted (no pun intended)?
>

I'm sure it did. In the coast range east of Silicon Valley, on Page
Mill Road, the snow level was 1000 feet at 11 in the morning.

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[RBW] Re: a snowy mt. diablo

[jinxed]

Fantastic! What a great ride. It looks absolutely balmy compared to
our predicted high of 14 today. Still might get out on the bike for
quick jaunt though!!

Thanks for posting such a great series of pictures!


On Dec 8, 8:08 am, Mike  wrote:
> Erik, great shots. Thanks for putting the link up here.
>
> Did Mt Tam get dusted (no pun intended)?
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Patrick in VT]

my favorite shells in no particular order:

rapha lightweight softshell:  great for fast cold weather rides/
training - windproof, breathable and fairly water resistant.  the fit
is snug - which is nice on those cold, windy days.

swrve softshell hoodie:  what I commute in most days - warm,
windproof, great fit and cut, allows for layering, looks nice off the
bike.  also has some huge rear pockets.  i tend to overheat in this,
however, if i'm pushing too hard.  i also wish it covered my neck.
have to wear a neck gaiter or scarf with it when it dips below 30.

patagonia climbing jacket:  i forget which model, but it has a nice
cut (long tail, shorter up front) and some built in stretchy fabric,
so it's great for cycing.  very windproof and waterproof, but long pit
zips allow for some breathability.  it gets used on and off the bike
quite a bit.

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Re: [RBW] Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Bill Connell]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Christopher Paul  wrote:
> Greetings to all cold & wet weather riders!
>
> Does anyone have any good ideas for finding good deals on wool t-shirt
> base layers?  I'm stunned at how much these things are going for!


Not that it helps right now, but there are usually very good deals to
be had on wool stuff come spring. If you plan ahead, you can stock up
on base layers for pretty cheap. Ibex also occasionally has good sales
too. $60 *is* a lot for a t-shirt, but if you can keep the moths out,
they will last a long time. I have a ~15-year-old Smartwool top that
is stained and has a couple of moth holes, but is still warm and
usable otherwise.

-- 
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[RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

[shawn]

Yeah, I am with Clif. I, too have seen her around Hyde Park and campus
area. She is a pretty avid commuter. I have yet to chat with her
though.

On Dec 7, 9:57 pm, Beardpapa  wrote:
> I walked out of the Clay Pit on Guadalupe today and saw this:
>
> http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/beardpapa/saluki.jpg
>
> Anyone?
>
> On Dec 3, 12:26 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Shawn,
>
> > Tyler State Park (just north of town) is a good place for bike
> > camping.  I've done a couple of S24Os there.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/sets/72157612820991950/
>
> > Angus
>
> > On Dec 2, 10:20 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > Angus,
> > > I'm not in Tyler often, but am happy to know you are representing
> > > there. I would like to camp out that way sometime, I've heard it's
> > > really beautiful there.
>
> > > On Dec 1, 9:17 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > > That is a great looking RB-T Shawn!  Love those bikes.
>
> > > > I'm a bit further away, but there are other like minded cyclists in
> > > > the great state of Texas.
>
> > > > Angus "Tyler TX"
>
> > > > If you are ever in the area...
>
> > > > On Nov 30, 8:47 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > > > HI All,
> > > > > I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would finally
> > > > > introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell (I'm in
> > > > > Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
> > > > > welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant Petersen
> > > > > philosophy and look forward to participating in future conversations.
> > > > > Here are some pics of my bikes:
>
> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/
>
> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/
>
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Shawn
> > > > >Austin, TX- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Silver shifter problem

[muckum]

Yes, this is a royal pain in the butt. I had to drill out mine with a
very small bit.
I filed down the new ones slightly and applied anti seize to help the
next time.

On Dec 5, 3:39 pm, stevep33  wrote:
> Has anyone had trouble removing a derailleur cable from a Silver
> downtube shift lever?  I was changing my cables today and found that
> the head of the cable is stuck in the shift lever hole.  I tried
> everything to remove it, and I think I pretty much destroyed the
> shifter in the process.
> I like how these shifters feel and would buy another in a heart beat,
> but not if this is a persistent issue.
> Is this a case of user error?  Are there any tricks to avoid this kind
> of problem?
> Does anyone have a left side Silver downtube shifter they want to
> sell?

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[RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

[shawn]

Sorry for the late reply, Nathan. I have been having some technical
difficulties responding to the messages here.
Anyway, hopefully this will work.
Yes, the panniers are attached. Additionally, they have leather straps
and brass buckles that attach the bottom of each side to the rack.

On Dec 2, 12:56 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
> Shawn, are the two panniers attached to each other or are they  
> separate? It looks like the former, but it's hard to tell.
>
> -nathan
>
> On Dec 1, 2009, at 6:26 PM, shawn  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The panniers are from Frost River. They're great, well worth the
> > expense. They are waxed cotton-canvas, and were put to the water proof
> > test today (they passed with flying colors)
> > Here is a link:
> >http://www.frostriver.com/
>
> > On Nov 30, 10:47 pm, Ray Shine  wrote:
> >> Welcome!  Great looking biks.  What panniers are those?
>
> >> --- On Mon, 11/30/09, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> >> From: cyclotourist 
> >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Introduction from Austin, TX
> >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 8:35 PM
>
> >> Yeah for RB-T's!  Those are just great bikes.  Looks like you have  
> >> them set up perfectly!
>
> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:47 PM, shawn   
> >> wrote:
>
> >> HI All,
>
> >> I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would finally
>
> >> introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell (I'm in
>
> >> Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
>
> >> welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant Petersen
>
> >> philosophy and look forward to participating in future conversations.
>
> >> Here are some pics of my bikes:
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/
>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Shawn
>
> >> Austin, TX
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[RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

[Jeff]

I cannot believe Chela has to park out on the street!  She used to
keep it secure in the loading dock where I work.  That just ain't
right!

I'm a local randonneur on a Heron.  Looking forward to meeting the
Austin Rivendell crowd and "drafting" you into the brevet riding
scene.  If not this year, then maybe the next (when it's a PBP year
and suddenly the hipsters swap their fixies for vintage French cyclo-
touring bikes. . .)

Jeff


On Dec 8, 8:44 am, sean  wrote:
> That's Chela Metzger's Saluki. She is one of the UT Libraries (and
> School of Information) Rivendell contingent.
>
> Sean
>
> On Dec 7, 11:13 pm, Cycletex  wrote:
>
> > I see that one several times a week around the Hyde Park area. Serious
> > commuter. I've complemented her on her bike while riding my Quickbeam
> > but haven't talked with her more than that.
>
> > Clifhttp://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/
>
> > On Dec 7, 9:57 pm, Beardpapa  wrote:
>
> > > I walked out of the Clay Pit on Guadalupe today and saw this:
>
> > >http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/beardpapa/saluki.jpg
>
> > > Anyone?
>
> > > On Dec 3, 12:26 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > > Shawn,
>
> > > > Tyler State Park (just north of town) is a good place for bike
> > > > camping.  I've done a couple of S24Os there.
>
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/sets/72157612820991950/
>
> > > > Angus
>
> > > > On Dec 2, 10:20 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > > > Angus,
> > > > > I'm not in Tyler often, but am happy to know you are representing
> > > > > there. I would like to camp out that way sometime, I've heard it's
> > > > > really beautiful there.
>
> > > > > On Dec 1, 9:17 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > > > > That is a great looking RB-T Shawn!  Love those bikes.
>
> > > > > > I'm a bit further away, but there are other like minded cyclists in
> > > > > > the great state of Texas.
>
> > > > > > Angus "Tyler TX"
>
> > > > > > If you are ever in the area...
>
> > > > > > On Nov 30, 8:47 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > HI All,
> > > > > > > I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would 
> > > > > > > finally
> > > > > > > introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell 
> > > > > > > (I'm in
> > > > > > > Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
> > > > > > > welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant 
> > > > > > > Petersen
> > > > > > > philosophy and look forward to participating in future 
> > > > > > > conversations.
> > > > > > > Here are some pics of my bikes:
>
> > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/
>
> > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/
>
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Shawn
> > > > > > >Austin, TX- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

[Cycletex]

Hey Jeff,

I'm gearing up for riding with you guys on a brevet or two. I wasn't
ready for you guys this last Saturday and I'll have to see how my
training goes through cedar season for the Jan. brevet but by this
time next year I hope to be there. (Fingers crossed and knocking on
wood.)

Clif
http://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/



On Dec 8, 12:19 pm, Jeff  wrote:
> I cannot believe Chela has to park out on the street!  She used to
> keep it secure in the loading dock where I work.  That just ain't
> right!
>
> I'm a local randonneur on a Heron.  Looking forward to meeting the
> Austin Rivendell crowd and "drafting" you into the brevet riding
> scene.  If not this year, then maybe the next (when it's a PBP year
> and suddenly the hipsters swap their fixies for vintage French cyclo-
> touring bikes. . .)
>
> Jeff
>
> On Dec 8, 8:44 am, sean  wrote:
>
> > That's Chela Metzger's Saluki. She is one of the UT Libraries (and
> > School of Information) Rivendell contingent.
>
> > Sean
>
> > On Dec 7, 11:13 pm, Cycletex  wrote:
>
> > > I see that one several times a week around the Hyde Park area. Serious
> > > commuter. I've complemented her on her bike while riding my Quickbeam
> > > but haven't talked with her more than that.
>
> > > Clifhttp://hardmenwithsoftbellies.wordpress.com/
>
> > > On Dec 7, 9:57 pm, Beardpapa  wrote:
>
> > > > I walked out of the Clay Pit on Guadalupe today and saw this:
>
> > > >http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy235/beardpapa/saluki.jpg
>
> > > > Anyone?
>
> > > > On Dec 3, 12:26 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > > > Shawn,
>
> > > > > Tyler State Park (just north of town) is a good place for bike
> > > > > camping.  I've done a couple of S24Os there.
>
> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/16951...@n08/sets/72157612820991950/
>
> > > > > Angus
>
> > > > > On Dec 2, 10:20 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > > > > Angus,
> > > > > > I'm not in Tyler often, but am happy to know you are representing
> > > > > > there. I would like to camp out that way sometime, I've heard it's
> > > > > > really beautiful there.
>
> > > > > > On Dec 1, 9:17 pm, Angus  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > That is a great looking RB-T Shawn!  Love those bikes.
>
> > > > > > > I'm a bit further away, but there are other like minded cyclists 
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > the great state of Texas.
>
> > > > > > > Angus "Tyler TX"
>
> > > > > > > If you are ever in the area...
>
> > > > > > > On Nov 30, 8:47 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > HI All,
> > > > > > > > I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would 
> > > > > > > > finally
> > > > > > > > introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell 
> > > > > > > > (I'm in
> > > > > > > > Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
> > > > > > > > welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant 
> > > > > > > > Petersen
> > > > > > > > philosophy and look forward to participating in future 
> > > > > > > > conversations.
> > > > > > > > Here are some pics of my bikes:
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Shawn
> > > > > > > >Austin, TX- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] a snowy mt. diablo

[erik jensen]

Happy to share and thanks the compliments!

jinxed: 14 degrees is cold. It was easy enough to stay warm on the way up,
but after the sun went down things got brisk. I have ample winter cycling
gear leftover from my previous home (omaha), so I was able to stay
moderately comfy with lobster gloves and the like. Still, hard not to shiver
coasting 11 miles downhill when it's below freezing. In retrospect, I should
have worn my lake boots.

Eric: I used two cameras: a ricoh grd-II in the front pocket of my rando bag
for quick captures; and a Canon 40d with a 17-85 lens and a polarizer for
the landscapes.

Cheers,

erik

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> Erik:
>
> Nice shots!  What kind of camera did you use?
>
> --Eric
> campyonly...@me.com
> www.campyonly.com
> www.wheelsnorth.org
>
>
>
> On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:25 AM, erik jensen wrote:
>
> Hi RBWers,
>
> The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered Mt.
> Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite unique,
> and it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in CA.
>
> Post here;
> http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> erik
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[RBW] Current Classics Tuesdayt Batch Ends on a Bleriot

[CycloFiend]

I know that Manuel posted his flickr link here already, but I just found
myself lingering over him images this morning as I was updating the gallery
- 

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc745-manuelacosta1209.html


I really love the second image and the sunset shot. Great stuff!

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[RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[shawn]

It seems based on the thread thus far, wool is ideal. One thing I am
not clear on is, if a wool base layer is worn with cotton over it,
will the base layer still wick away the sweat, or will the cotton soak
it up? Or is wearing multiple layers of wool the only option to stay
warm and dry?
 Coming from a cost perspective, it seems if one can afford just one
wool base layer and then wear regular clothes (i.e.-cotton) over it
then it might be a little easier to "swallow" the cost of the wool.

Shawn (ATX)

On Dec 6, 10:18 pm, kent  wrote:
> The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
> insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
> synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
> but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
> layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?

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[RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[shawn]

Funny you should mention Chicago, that's why I bought the parka in the
first place. My family is strewn all about the North Shore, Evanston,
Willmette, Morton Grove, Glenview, etc...

Yeah, I was hoping I could get away with the parka so as to avoid
buying something else for riding. The lotion is a great idea. Here in
Texas, putting lotion on in the summer always makes me sweat, but
maybe in these colder months it would really help insulate. I'll give
it a try.

On Dec 7, 10:21 pm, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> It is somewhat counter-intuitive at first.  But definitely even in the
> cold waste land of Chicago, parkas almost always are over kill.
> Parkas are designed for blizzard conditions you encounter climbing
> mountains and the like.  If the weather is bad enough to warrant a
> parka, you probably ought not be on the bike in any event.
>
> Concentrate on keeping your mid-section and extremities warm.  A good
> hat helps.   I don't cover my face unless it is really cold.  A lot of
> other riders do.  I put fairly heavy lotion on before riding though.
>
> On Dec 7, 8:35 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am really appreciating this thread. Here in ATX we have had
> > unusually cold and wet days. It is making my Texas blood feel thinner
> > than it already is. I still have not mastered the "perfect" riding
> > combo. But, I am gathering some great ideas here. For one, I realized
> > recently that I need more of a light shell instead of the outer layer
> > of the parka I have been wearing. The trickiest part seems to be
> > figuring out how to dress warm enough, but not sweat so as to not end
> > up with the chills later as I start to cool down.
>
> > On Dec 6, 10:18 pm, kent  wrote:
>
> > > The standard cold weather equation is a warm, wicking base layer, an
> > > insulating layer and then a wind/waterproof shell.  Even hardcore
> > > synthetics fans would agree that wool makes a good base or mid layer,
> > > but most would swear by GoreTex and its descendants for the outer
> > > layer.  What do you wear on top in the cold and/or wet?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[CycloFiend]

on 12/8/09 9:45 AM, shawn at calamari6...@gmail.com wrote:

> It seems based on the thread thus far, wool is ideal. One thing I am
> not clear on is, if a wool base layer is worn with cotton over it,
> will the base layer still wick away the sweat, or will the cotton soak
> it up? Or is wearing multiple layers of wool the only option to stay
> warm and dry?
> Coming from a cost perspective, it seems if one can afford just one
> wool base layer and then wear regular clothes (i.e.-cotton) over it
> then it might be a little easier to "swallow" the cost of the wool.

Now, the _last_ person I'd take cold weather advice from is someone who
lives in California, but...

Cotton ain't the thing in cold weather. Generally, it will absorb moisture
faster than it can ever evaporate it.  The evaporative cooling is a great
thing during the hot months, but what you want to do is stay dry.

The reason wool (and the better synthetics) work is that they get the
moisture away from your skin.  In the case of using a cotton outer layer,
you basically are wearing a thin sponge which will hold moisture.  This may
freeze which actually will help you stay warm, but the evaporative process
will generally drop your temp faster than another wool (or wool blend, or
even synthetic).

If you are trying to minimize expense, I'd recommend finding a smooth, comfy
100% merino layer for next-to-skin (and you won't have to wash it that
often, so you  can get away with one), then look for blends or less-comfy
(i.e cheaper) 100% wool pieces for additional insulation. The "scratchy"
(shorter) fibers of the cheaper wool isn't as noticeable on an outer layer.

hope that helps,

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Re: [RBW] a snowy mt. diablo

[Cheryl Mitchell]

Erik was the descent slippery at all, or had any icy patches melted away by
the time you were up there? I saw that rangers had closed the roads to cars
yesterday.

-Cheryl
in SF

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> Happy to share and thanks the compliments!
>
> jinxed: 14 degrees is cold. It was easy enough to stay warm on the way up,
> but after the sun went down things got brisk. I have ample winter cycling
> gear leftover from my previous home (omaha), so I was able to stay
> moderately comfy with lobster gloves and the like. Still, hard not to shiver
> coasting 11 miles downhill when it's below freezing. In retrospect, I should
> have worn my lake boots.
>
> Eric: I used two cameras: a ricoh grd-II in the front pocket of my rando
> bag for quick captures; and a Canon 40d with a 17-85 lens and a polarizer
> for the landscapes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> erik
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
>
>> Erik:
>>
>> Nice shots!  What kind of camera did you use?
>>
>> --Eric
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>> www.campyonly.com
>> www.wheelsnorth.org
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:25 AM, erik jensen wrote:
>>
>>   Hi RBWers,
>>
>> The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered
>> Mt. Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite
>> unique, and it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in
>> CA.
>>
>> Post here;
>>  http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> erik
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Bill Connell]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:18 PM, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 12/8/09 9:45 AM, shawn at calamari6...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It seems based on the thread thus far, wool is ideal. One thing I am
>> not clear on is, if a wool base layer is worn with cotton over it,
>> will the base layer still wick away the sweat, or will the cotton soak
>> it up? Or is wearing multiple layers of wool the only option to stay
>> warm and dry?
>> Coming from a cost perspective, it seems if one can afford just one
>> wool base layer and then wear regular clothes (i.e.-cotton) over it
>> then it might be a little easier to "swallow" the cost of the wool.
>
> Now, the _last_ person I'd take cold weather advice from is someone who
> lives in California, but...
>
> Cotton ain't the thing in cold weather. Generally, it will absorb moisture
> faster than it can ever evaporate it.  The evaporative cooling is a great
> thing during the hot months, but what you want to do is stay dry.
>
> The reason wool (and the better synthetics) work is that they get the
> moisture away from your skin.  In the case of using a cotton outer layer,
> you basically are wearing a thin sponge which will hold moisture.  This may
> freeze which actually will help you stay warm, but the evaporative process
> will generally drop your temp faster than another wool (or wool blend, or
> even synthetic).
>
> If you are trying to minimize expense, I'd recommend finding a smooth, comfy
> 100% merino layer for next-to-skin (and you won't have to wash it that
> often, so you  can get away with one), then look for blends or less-comfy
> (i.e cheaper) 100% wool pieces for additional insulation. The "scratchy"
> (shorter) fibers of the cheaper wool isn't as noticeable on an outer layer.


I agree with this - even more than in the summer, winter riding is
about moisture management. If it's a short ride, you can wear anything
and be fine. If it's a longer ride, and especially if it's long with
periodic stops, you'll get deeply chilled if your clothes are at all
damp from sweat. Winter riding always surprises non-cyclists with how
little clothing is required for a cold-weather ride. I need warm
gloves and shoes and my ears covered, but other than that, just 2-3
thin layers and my torso and legs are fine. It's miserable being
sweaty on a cold day.

Like Patrick said, thrift stores are a great source of thin wool
sweaters that make great middle layers. I've ridden a lot of winter
days with a wool t-shirt, thin $3 wool sweater (thinner than a
sweatshirt), and a light windbreaker jacket.

On the bottom, my best winter clothing are some standard Nashbar brand
tights. They're very warm, especially under a pair of pants, and were
actually made in the US (bought maybe 5 years ago, not sure of the
current stock). More windproof and less bulky than my otherwise nicer
part-wool Patagonia tights. I do often wear cotton pants over tights
in the winter, but my legs aren't really sweating like i am on top. I
rarely wear cotton on top on cold rides.

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Re: [RBW] Current Classics Tuesdayt Batch Ends on a Bleriot

[Rene Sterental]

Very nice shot indeed! Nice bike too!

René

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[RBW] Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[Robert F. Harrison]

My QB arrived about 5 minutes ago. I went in to work very early so I could
run the jobs I absolutely must get done on Tuesdays (without making my
co-workers do them). Then I headed home as soon as I saw the "out for
delivery" notice on the UPS site.

About 10am HST I got a call from the UPS driver asking if I would be home
later. I said yes, except that between 11-2pm I needed to be away and the
manager of my condo would be in. He asked me to please make sure because the
box, while not heavy, was bulky. I asked when he thought he'd make it and he
said not till afternoon. Sigh.

Then he drove up. I could hear him joking with someone outside saying, "I
told him this afternoon." I immediately broke out the camera and snapped my
box being offloaded. It'll be part of a flickr album later.

He brought the box up to my apartment and I gave him a cold soda and told
him he was my hero for the day. Apparently I'm going to have more than one
hero though because, as you guys said, the bike is packed immaculately. And
unfortunately I'm going to have to leave it that way for a bit as I have to
dash out for my companies annual anniversary banquet. Folks with years of
service in multiples of five are being feted. I made ten years and they are
pretty insistent about showing up.

Luckily it'll be over around 1:30pm so I can ride home on my other single
speed (now my "rain bike") and start putting things together. There doesn't
appear to be a whole lot to do (thankfully), so I'll probably be able to
take it out for spin before dark.

I'd love to stay and play with it, but the sooner I get this luncheon over
with, the sooner I can play with my "anniversary present."

Aloha for now!

Bob

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[Rene Sterental]

Congratulations!!!

What a week!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Bruce]

When considering the cost of wool, bear in mind that it need not be washed each 
time you use it. Hang it up and let it dry. Then wear it again. and again. You 
get the idea. When to wash? Opinions vary, but mine is when I can start to 
smell an odor, it's time. Salt is no trouble. Just brush it off and keep going.

Ixnay on cotton in any layer, for cold weather. In warmer weather, a cotton 
seersucker or waffle weave shirt is quite nice over a thin wool base. For icier 
days, and where wool costs more than you can do for 2 layers, use polyproylene 
insulating garments over the wool. They probably won't stink either.





From: shawn 

Coming from a cost perspective, it seems if one can afford just one
wool base layer and then wear regular clothes (i.e.-cotton) over it
then it might be a little easier to "swallow" the cost of the wool.


  

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[RBW] Betty Foy Eye Candy

[EcoVelo]

Here's a little Betty Foy eye candy for you:

http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/12/08/betty-foy-eye-candy/

Best regards,
a...@ecovelo

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Re: [RBW] Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[James Dinneen]

Thanks for writing about this exciting development. Vicarious thrills will have 
to do me for now. No new bikes in my future for a while. And maybe not much 
riding for a few months as we hunker down in New England and wait for snow 
tonight and in the months ahead. Hawaii and a new bike sound really 
good. Cannot wait to see the ictures.   
    Jim D.    Massachusetts

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From: Robert F. Harrison 
Subject: [RBW] Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 3:45 PM


My QB arrived about 5 minutes ago. I went in to work very early so I could run 
the jobs I absolutely must get done on Tuesdays (without making my co-workers 
do them). Then I headed home as soon as I saw the "out for delivery" notice on 
the UPS site.


About 10am HST I got a call from the UPS driver asking if I would be home 
later. I said yes, except that between 11-2pm I needed to be away and the 
manager of my condo would be in. He asked me to please make sure because the 
box, while not heavy, was bulky. I asked when he thought he'd make it and he 
said not till afternoon. Sigh.

Then he drove up. I could hear him joking with someone outside saying, "I told 
him this afternoon." I immediately broke out the camera and snapped my box 
being offloaded. It'll be part of a flickr album later.


He brought the box up to my apartment and I gave him a cold soda and told him 
he was my hero for the day. Apparently I'm going to have more than one hero 
though because, as you guys said, the bike is packed immaculately. And 
unfortunately I'm going to have to leave it that way for a bit as I have to 
dash out for my companies annual anniversary banquet. Folks with years of 
service in multiples of five are being feted. I made ten years and they are 
pretty insistent about showing up. 


Luckily it'll be over around 1:30pm so I can ride home on my other single speed 
(now my "rain bike") and start putting things together. There doesn't appear to 
be a whole lot to do (thankfully), so I'll probably be able to take it out for 
spin before dark.


I'd love to stay and play with it, but the sooner I get this luncheon over 
with, the sooner I can play with my "anniversary present."


Aloha for now!


Bob

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[Harry]

Outstanding! Take some photos please and post them if possible. One
day when I get to move I'll be living in Aina Hina or if possible, on
the Big Island in Hawi. It could be time to start a Riv club in
Hawaii. Congrats too!

Cheers,

Harry

On Dec 8, 12:52 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Congratulations!!!
>
> What a week!
>
> René

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[RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes

[Patrick in VT]

On Dec 3, 9:31 am, Mike  wrote:
> Nice, but expensive. Anyone seen or tried these?

these also look nice - i think i actually prefer the black compared to
the dromarti's.

http://www.swrvestore.com/servlet/Detail?no=106

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes and others

[Jon Grant]

Are these available in the US?

http://www.exustar.com/product_detail.php?psn=34&level=2&t1s=11

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From: Patrick in VT 
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:37:03 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes

On Dec 3, 9:31 am, Mike  wrote:
> Nice, but expensive. Anyone seen or tried these?

these also look nice - i think i actually prefer the black compared to
the dromarti's.

http://www.swrvestore.com/servlet/Detail?no=106

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[doug peterson]

Robert:

As you unpack the bike, please take the time to take photos of the
packing and post those as well.  I regularly ship my bike for tours
and thought I'd gotten good, but when my Atlantis showed up it was
fantastic how they'd packed it.  I took photos, stored them on my
computer, only to lose the hard drive (argghh!) without back up.  I'm
sure others would appreciate seeing how Riv does it.  They've said
they're going to put up photos on their site but it's been a while.
You would be doing a public service, if you can restrain yourself!

dougP

On Dec 8, 12:45 pm, "Robert F. Harrison"  wrote:
> My QB arrived about 5 minutes ago. I went in to work very early so I could
> run the jobs I absolutely must get done on Tuesdays (without making my
> co-workers do them). Then I headed home as soon as I saw the "out for
> delivery" notice on the UPS site.
>
> About 10am HST I got a call from the UPS driver asking if I would be home
> later. I said yes, except that between 11-2pm I needed to be away and the
> manager of my condo would be in. He asked me to please make sure because the
> box, while not heavy, was bulky. I asked when he thought he'd make it and he
> said not till afternoon. Sigh.
>
> Then he drove up. I could hear him joking with someone outside saying, "I
> told him this afternoon." I immediately broke out the camera and snapped my
> box being offloaded. It'll be part of a flickr album later.
>
> He brought the box up to my apartment and I gave him a cold soda and told
> him he was my hero for the day. Apparently I'm going to have more than one
> hero though because, as you guys said, the bike is packed immaculately. And
> unfortunately I'm going to have to leave it that way for a bit as I have to
> dash out for my companies annual anniversary banquet. Folks with years of
> service in multiples of five are being feted. I made ten years and they are
> pretty insistent about showing up.
>
> Luckily it'll be over around 1:30pm so I can ride home on my other single
> speed (now my "rain bike") and start putting things together. There doesn't
> appear to be a whole lot to do (thankfully), so I'll probably be able to
> take it out for spin before dark.
>
> I'd love to stay and play with it, but the sooner I get this luncheon over
> with, the sooner I can play with my "anniversary present."
>
> Aloha for now!
>
> Bob
>
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[RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes

[MichaelH]

I owned a pair of these Vittoria shoes, a long, long time ago.  I'd
like to have them back, but alas a 45 isn't big enough
Michael

On Dec 8, 4:37 pm, Patrick in VT  wrote:
> On Dec 3, 9:31 am, Mike  wrote:
>
> > Nice, but expensive. Anyone seen or tried these?
>
> these also look nice - i think i actually prefer the black compared to
> the dromarti's.
>
> http://www.swrvestore.com/servlet/Detail?no=106

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[RBW] Re: Betty Foy Eye Candy

[manueljohnacosta]

Wow outstanding bike! the flowers on the basket is a nice touch

On Dec 8, 12:53 pm, EcoVelo  wrote:
> Here's a little Betty Foy eye candy for you:
>
> http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/12/08/betty-foy-eye-candy/
>
> Best regards,
> a...@ecovelo

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes and others

[Curtis Schmitt]

looks like they are, for $99: http://www.exustarusa.com/

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Jon Grant  wrote:

>  Are these available in the US?
>
> http://www.exustar.com/product_detail.php?psn=34&level=2&t1s=11
>
> *--
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>
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> *
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> *Reply-To: *
> *Date: *Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:37:03 -0800 (PST)
> *To: *RBW Owners Bunch 
> *Subject: *[RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes
>
> On Dec 3, 9:31 am, Mike  wrote:
> > Nice, but expensive. Anyone seen or tried these?
>
> these also look nice - i think i actually prefer the black compared to
> the dromarti's.
>
> http://www.swrvestore.com/servlet/Detail?no=106
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[RBW] Re: a snowy mt. diablo

[Brad Gantt]

What a beautiful ride. Thanks for sharing the pics. They epitomize the
Country Bike spirit.

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[RBW] Re: Black Friday Ride Report

[manueljohnacosta]

great looking pictures. that pig looked big!

On Dec 8, 5:37 am, rperks  wrote:
> Still Catching up on the photo backlog.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/36302...@n08/sets/72157622960339922/
>
> The friday after Thanksgiving I made it out for a fun morning picture
> ride. I was visiting family on the central California coast for the
> Holiday weekend, and rode this loop, with a little extra thrown in:
>
> www.slobc.org/route/RideServer.php?Label=pozo&SubDir=...
>
> There is a bit of long straight out and back from the house to start
> the loop.  The day started off at the 30F but quickly warmed up into
> the 50F range to make for a beautiful Winter day. The trees were
> starting to show their fall color. The usual farm and wildlife was out
> in force as usual, cows, sheep, birds etc. The standouts were a HUGE
> pig in the middle of a climb and a group of dear including a 4 piont
> buck.  Pretty much a perfect morning.
>
> Riv content is in the controls: RM013 bars (wide), shifters, brakes
> and Hobo bag
>
> I am excited to get the Roadeo out on this loop, probably be a couple
> months untill I am back up there though.
>
> Rob

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[RBW] Re: a snowy mt. diablo

[manueljohnacosta]

Outstanding pictures Erik! Funny story about that snowy day. While I
was teaching in San Jose. One of the teachers during their prep drove
up to mt. ham and collected some snow  to peg some teachers with
snowballs! By the end of my third period class my ear was filled with
ice.

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[RBW] Re: a snowy mt. diablo

[George Schick]

W-a-a-a-a-y back in the 60's when I was first developing (nope, no pun
intended) an interest in photography I picked up one of those "how-to"
paperbacks in a local bookstore.  I don't remember much about
everything it had to say except for this one quip: "a box camera in
the hands of an expert will take better pictures than a Nikon in the
hands of a novice."  (OK, for those of you too young to understand,
don't hassle me about the term "box camera").

Well, Erik here has produced the kind of photos that prove this
somewhat trite cliche to be correct.  It's properly framing the
subject and capturing the moment that count the most. These pictures
are so fantastic that he could have taken them with a pin-hole camera
(again, I'm showing my age) and they'd still be great.  Very nice job!


On Dec 8, 2:25 am, erik jensen  wrote:
> Hi RBWers,
>
> The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered Mt.
> Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite unique,
> and it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in CA.
>
> Post here;http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> erik
> --
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> bikenoir.blogspot.com

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[RBW] Search Function on the RBW Owners Bunch is working again

[Rocky B]

I know for the longest time the standard search function wasn't
working but it appears to be working once again.  Yay.  No more
workaround searching!

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[RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[EricP]

Good advice.  Although in my case the salt stains get heavy pretty
quick.  (I sweat a lot.)  And they don't seem to brush out.  Make up
for it with a number of wool tops.

For cotton a heavy Woolrich or Filson Alaska shirt work as a cover
layer in some conditions.  Or at least I like the feel/look of them.

But I'm a wimp.  Definitely not out riding in this winter storm.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Dec 8, 2:52�pm, Bruce  wrote:
> When considering the cost of wool, bear in mind that it need not be washed 
> each time you use it. Hang it up and let it dry. Then wear it again. and 
> again. You get the idea. When to wash? Opinions vary, but mine is when I can 
> start to smell an odor, it's time. Salt is no trouble. Just brush it off and 
> keep going.
>
> Ixnay on cotton in any layer, for cold weather. In warmer weather, a cotton 
> seersucker or waffle weave shirt is quite nice over a thin wool base. For 
> icier days, and where wool costs more than you can do for 2 layers, use 
> polyproylene insulating garments over the wool. They probably won't stink 
> either.
>
> 
> From: shawn 
>
> Coming from a cost perspective, it seems if one can afford just one
> wool base layer and then wear regular clothes (i.e.-cotton) over it
> then it might be a little easier to "swallow" the cost of the wool.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cold weather commuting clothing?

[Dan Abelson]

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:02 PM, EricP  wrote:

>
>
> But I'm a wimp.  Definitely not out riding in this winter storm.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
>
>
Eric,

That's no fun.  It was a great ride home from work today.  Probably faster
than driving.

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

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Re: [RBW] a snowy mt. diablo

[cyclotourist]

Those were great!  Thanks for sharing the link!

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM, erik jensen  wrote:

> Happy to share and thanks the compliments!
>
> jinxed: 14 degrees is cold. It was easy enough to stay warm on the way up,
> but after the sun went down things got brisk. I have ample winter cycling
> gear leftover from my previous home (omaha), so I was able to stay
> moderately comfy with lobster gloves and the like. Still, hard not to shiver
> coasting 11 miles downhill when it's below freezing. In retrospect, I should
> have worn my lake boots.
>
> Eric: I used two cameras: a ricoh grd-II in the front pocket of my rando
> bag for quick captures; and a Canon 40d with a 17-85 lens and a polarizer
> for the landscapes.
>
> Cheers,
>
> erik
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
>
>> Erik:
>>
>> Nice shots!  What kind of camera did you use?
>>
>> --Eric
>> campyonly...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> www.wheelsnorth.org
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:25 AM, erik jensen wrote:
>>
>> Hi RBWers,
>>
>> The Atlantis and I took off this afternoon for a spin up a snow-covered
>> Mt. Diablo. The variety of colors and light up there today were quite
>> unique, and it was wonderful to get just a bit of snow riding in out here in
>> CA.
>>
>> Post here;
>> http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/2009/12/snow-on-mt-diablo.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> erik
>> --
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>> bikenoir.blogspot.com
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[RBW] Re: Current Classics Tuesdayt Batch Ends on a Bleriot

[Earl Grey]

Jim,

Thanks for the update of your wonderful site. I am curious about how
you prioritize updates. I submitted an Independent Fabrication
cyclocross bike to crossbi...@cyclofiend.com in October, and since I
didn't hear back, re-submitted in mid November. Still no answer, so I
sent an email to your email address listed in this forum. Still no
answer.

I know you have a day job, and I love your site, I am just trying to
figure out why I haven't heard back from you, and why my bike hasn't
posted to the site.

Cheers,

Gernot

On Dec 9, 3:32 am, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Very nice shot indeed! Nice bike too!
>
> René
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM, CycloFiend wrote:
>
>
>
> > I know that Manuel posted his flickr link here already, but I just found
> > myself lingering over him images this morning as I was updating the gallery
> > -
>
> >http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc745-manuelacosta1209.html
>
> > I really love the second image and the sunset shot. Great stuff!
>
> > - Jim
>
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>
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>
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> > anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace."
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[Robert F. Harrison]

I'm not much of a photographer, but I did my best. I'll be honest, it was
tough; I wanted to rip the box open and build it up immediately. I tried to
slow down a bit and take some images along the way.

I've put the whole thing on my flickr page at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157622964863214/

The sets starts with the bike being taken off of the UPS truck...yes, I kept
checking the street. :-)

I hope the images document the packing enough for folks to at least get some
idea of how they do it!

Here's what happened...

I didn't have time to do anything when the bike arrived besides open the box
to be sure there was actually a bike in there. I snapped a couple of shots,
then dragged the box inside so I could get off to a luncheon and go back to
work for a bit.

After what seemed like a really long time I made it home. It was really only
about 3pm at this point.

I then began pulling things out of the box, photographing as best I could as
I went.

Once it was all in pieces everywhere I made some executive decisions. I
could either build it up completely, putting on the fenders (the SKS silver
plastic model) and the Nitto front rack, or I could get it mostly together
and go for a ride.

I chose the ride of course.

It took about an hour of unpacking and building before I was ready for a
test ride around the block.

For those of you who wonder, the bike was packed superbly. Even the plastic
bubble wrap was cut precisely to fit around stays and the like. I was very
impressed. Still am.

After a ride around the block I took it back upstairs and packed a little
kit just in case I had trouble, readjusted the seat and handlebars, and took
off down the road. Within a block I realized I was going to have to get swap
sides on the gearing. I had Rich build my wheels to be a bit better than
stock because I'm a bit of clydesdale. They have the standard QB Suzue hubs
rear and aft but Synergy rims instead of the Mavic. I have a White dual
16-19 on one side and no name 22 on the flip. Up front is the standard
32-40, for now at least. When bike shipped it was running 32-22. I could
climb the walls on the side of my building but was outrunning myself on the
flat Honolulu streets.

No trouble switching - took a minute the first time.

Because I had no 700c tubes around I went to one of the several LBSs in the
area. I'm not going to mention it because the guys were a bit confused by my
Quickbeam. "Dude, that's way, way too big for you." "How much does it
weigh?" "Did you take the derailleurs off?" In short they didn't know what
to make of it.

After getting a couple of tubes I was off. I rode down the Ala Moana Park
and then to Kakaako Waterfront Park, then home.

The ride was...superb. That's the only way to describe it. I did have to
adjust the seat height a couple of times...probably will again tomorrow.

This bike is nimble, easy to ride, and very, very comfortable. It is,
without a doubt, the best bike I've ever owned and the best single speed
I've ever ridden. I rode a couple of geared bikes at Rivendell last March so
those take the cake as best geared bikes. :-)

I've got to work out some details yet. There's the front rack, the fenders,
and I'll have to do something about lighting. I'm thinking of getting a SON
at some point because this really is my commuter and I ride a lot at night.
But I'll worry about lighting later. For now I'll get by with what I've got.

Aloha!

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:22 PM, doug peterson  wrote:

> Robert:
>
> As you unpack the bike, please take the time to take photos of the
> packing and post those as well.  I regularly ship my bike for tours
> and thought I'd gotten good, but when my Atlantis showed up it was
> fantastic how they'd packed it.  I took photos, stored them on my
> computer, only to lose the hard drive (argghh!) without back up.  I'm
> sure others would appreciate seeing how Riv does it.  They've said
> they're going to put up photos on their site but it's been a while.
> You would be doing a public service, if you can restrain yourself!
>
> dougP
>
> On Dec 8, 12:45 pm, "Robert F. Harrison"  wrote:
> > My QB arrived about 5 minutes ago. I went in to work very early so I
> could
> > run the jobs I absolutely must get done on Tuesdays (without making my
> > co-workers do them). Then I headed home as soon as I saw the "out for
> > delivery" notice on the UPS site.
> >
> > About 10am HST I got a call from the UPS driver asking if I would be home
> > later. I said yes, except that between 11-2pm I needed to be away and the
> > manager of my condo would be in. He asked me to please make sure because
> the
> > box, while not heavy, was bulky. I asked when he thought he'd make it and
> he
> > said not till afternoon. Sigh.
> >
> > Then he drove up. I could hear him joking with someone outside saying, "I
> > told him this afternoon." I immediately broke out the camera and snapped
> my
> > box being offloaded. It'll be part of a flickr album later.
> >
> > He brough

[RBW] FS: Campagnolo Chainstay cover - 15$

[manueljohnacosta]

Because I am a buyer of twos I have an extra Campagnolo chainstay
cover for sale. 15$ not including shipping. I live in San Leandro but
I work as a teacher in San Jose. I'm pretty much free after school is
over. pick-up is preferred but I am willing to ship. E-mail off list
please. Thanks!

-Manny
P.S.  pictures found here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157622965023626/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[Robert F. Harrison]

I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was terribly
worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB. The thing
is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a moment.

Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding shoes
(just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again. It still
felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up there as
that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off the
ground so really there's plenty of clearance.

I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they experience
a properly sized frame. :-)

As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.

It's dark now and as I don't have my lighting worked out so I'm done for the
day. I had a nice 10 mile ride though which was enough to absolutely fall in
love. I'll be riding as a commuter the rest of the week and hopefully this
weekend I'll get to try it on a longer ride, maybe Kailua and back (60 miles
or so).

Aloha!



On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote:

> I'm not much of a photographer, but I did my best. I'll be honest, it was
> tough; I wanted to rip the box open and build it up immediately. I tried to
> slow down a bit and take some images along the way.
>
> I've put the whole thing on my flickr page at:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157622964863214/
>
> The sets starts with the bike being taken off of the UPS truck...yes, I
> kept checking the street. :-)
>
> I hope the images document the packing enough for folks to at least get
> some idea of how they do it!
>
> Here's what happened...
>
> I didn't have time to do anything when the bike arrived besides open the
> box to be sure there was actually a bike in there. I snapped a couple of
> shots, then dragged the box inside so I could get off to a luncheon and go
> back to work for a bit.
>
> After what seemed like a really long time I made it home. It was really
> only about 3pm at this point.
>
> I then began pulling things out of the box, photographing as best I could
> as I went.
>
> Once it was all in pieces everywhere I made some executive decisions. I
> could either build it up completely, putting on the fenders (the SKS silver
> plastic model) and the Nitto front rack, or I could get it mostly together
> and go for a ride.
>
> I chose the ride of course.
>
> It took about an hour of unpacking and building before I was ready for a
> test ride around the block.
>
> For those of you who wonder, the bike was packed superbly. Even the plastic
> bubble wrap was cut precisely to fit around stays and the like. I was very
> impressed. Still am.
>
> After a ride around the block I took it back upstairs and packed a little
> kit just in case I had trouble, readjusted the seat and handlebars, and took
> off down the road. Within a block I realized I was going to have to get swap
> sides on the gearing. I had Rich build my wheels to be a bit better than
> stock because I'm a bit of clydesdale. They have the standard QB Suzue hubs
> rear and aft but Synergy rims instead of the Mavic. I have a White dual
> 16-19 on one side and no name 22 on the flip. Up front is the standard
> 32-40, for now at least. When bike shipped it was running 32-22. I could
> climb the walls on the side of my building but was outrunning myself on the
> flat Honolulu streets.
>
> No trouble switching - took a minute the first time.
>
> Because I had no 700c tubes around I went to one of the several LBSs in the
> area. I'm not going to mention it because the guys were a bit confused by my
> Quickbeam. "Dude, that's way, way too big for you." "How much does it
> weigh?" "Did you take the derailleurs off?" In short they didn't know what
> to make of it.
>
> After getting a couple of tubes I was off. I rode down the Ala Moana Park
> and then to Kakaako Waterfront Park, then home.
>
> The ride was...superb. That's the only way to describe it. I did have to
> adjust the seat height a couple of times...probably will again tomorrow.
>
> This bike is nimble, easy to ride, and very, very comfortable. It is,
> without a doubt, the best bike I've ever owned and the best single speed
> I've ever ridden. I rode a couple of geared bikes at Rivendell last March so
> those take the cake as best geared bikes. :-)
>
> I've got to work out some details yet. There's the front rack, the fenders,
> and I'll have to do something about lighting. I'm thinking of getting a SON
> at some point because this really is my commuter and I ride a lot at night.
> But I'll worry about lighting later. For now I'll get by with what I've got.
>
> Aloha!
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:22 PM, doug peterson  wrote:
>
>> Robert:
>>
>> As you unpack the bike, please take the time to take photos of the
>> packing and post those as well.  I regularly ship my bike for tours
>> and thought I'd gotten good, but when my Atlantis showed up it was
>> fantastic how they'd packe

Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[David Faller]

Your photos made me feel like I was getting the bike!  I remember the 
frustration of receiving mine during a lunch break and only having about 20 
minutes to rummage through the excellent packing.  The rest of THAT work day 
was excruciatingly slow!

It's a beauty, and you WILL love it.

Congrats!

Dave
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert F. Harrison 
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:09 PM
  Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!


  I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was terribly 
worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB. The thing is, 
I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a moment.


  Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding shoes (just 
plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again. It still felt a 
bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up there as that's as 
high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off the ground so really 
there's plenty of clearance. 


  I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they experience 
a properly sized frame. :-)


  As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect. 



  It's dark now and as I don't have my lighting worked out so I'm done for the 
day. I had a nice 10 mile ride though which was enough to absolutely fall in 
love. I'll be riding as a commuter the rest of the week and hopefully this 
weekend I'll get to try it on a longer ride, maybe Kailua and back (60 miles or 
so). 


  Aloha!






  On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Robert F. Harrison  
wrote:

I'm not much of a photographer, but I did my best. I'll be honest, it was 
tough; I wanted to rip the box open and build it up immediately. I tried to 
slow down a bit and take some images along the way. 


I've put the whole thing on my flickr page at:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157622964863214/


The sets starts with the bike being taken off of the UPS truck...yes, I 
kept checking the street. :-)


I hope the images document the packing enough for folks to at least get 
some idea of how they do it!


Here's what happened...


I didn't have time to do anything when the bike arrived besides open the 
box to be sure there was actually a bike in there. I snapped a couple of shots, 
then dragged the box inside so I could get off to a luncheon and go back to 
work for a bit.


After what seemed like a really long time I made it home. It was really 
only about 3pm at this point. 


I then began pulling things out of the box, photographing as best I could 
as I went.


Once it was all in pieces everywhere I made some executive decisions. I 
could either build it up completely, putting on the fenders (the SKS silver 
plastic model) and the Nitto front rack, or I could get it mostly together and 
go for a ride.


I chose the ride of course.


It took about an hour of unpacking and building before I was ready for a 
test ride around the block.


For those of you who wonder, the bike was packed superbly. Even the plastic 
bubble wrap was cut precisely to fit around stays and the like. I was very 
impressed. Still am.


After a ride around the block I took it back upstairs and packed a little 
kit just in case I had trouble, readjusted the seat and handlebars, and took 
off down the road. Within a block I realized I was going to have to get swap 
sides on the gearing. I had Rich build my wheels to be a bit better than stock 
because I'm a bit of clydesdale. They have the standard QB Suzue hubs rear and 
aft but Synergy rims instead of the Mavic. I have a White dual 16-19 on one 
side and no name 22 on the flip. Up front is the standard 32-40, for now at 
least. When bike shipped it was running 32-22. I could climb the walls on the 
side of my building but was outrunning myself on the flat Honolulu streets. 


No trouble switching - took a minute the first time. 


Because I had no 700c tubes around I went to one of the several LBSs in the 
area. I'm not going to mention it because the guys were a bit confused by my 
Quickbeam. "Dude, that's way, way too big for you." "How much does it weigh?" 
"Did you take the derailleurs off?" In short they didn't know what to make of 
it. 


After getting a couple of tubes I was off. I rode down the Ala Moana Park 
and then to Kakaako Waterfront Park, then home. 


The ride was...superb. That's the only way to describe it. I did have to 
adjust the seat height a couple of times...probably will again tomorrow.


This bike is nimble, easy to ride, and very, very comfortable. It is, 
without a doubt, the best bike I've ever owned and the best single speed I've 
ever ridden. I rode a couple of geared bikes at Rivendell last March so those 
take the cake as best geared bikes. :-)


I've got to work out some details yet. There's the front rack, the fenders

[RBW] Old pictures of First bike Tour.

[manueljohnacosta]

Heres a "little" story and pictures from this past summer of my first
bike tour down the pacific coast.

Five of us went on the tour. Three of us rode.
Me, a recent grad hoping for a job by the end of the tour.
Duy, 2- year sf kinesiology student transferring to long beach.
Ryan, 2 month cycling newbie that we force to come because we didn't
want to tour to be boring.
We started this ride from San Francisco end in Monterey. It being our
first tour we had no idea what to expect and no idea what would
happen. Both of my friends to my dismay decided to have their two
girlfriends come along with their cars carrying all of their stuff.
For myself, I decided that it wouldn't be a real tour unless I carried
all my gear. The general theme of the tour for us was hope. It was
written on the flag that I had on the back of my bike and written in
our hearts everyday we rode. For Duy, hope for a brighter and exciting
future at Long Beach State. For Ryan, hope for a more active and
healthier lifestyle. For me, hope for a job. Little did we know that
for those three days we rode down the coast, we gained a experience
that would last us a lifetime. Like any bike tour we finished  with
way too many stories to tell to our friends back home and a sense of
calmness that can only come after biking for 3 hours in dead silence
and loving every minute of it. We all come out with a general
understanding that no matter how hard things may go, if you tried hard
things will always work out. Flash forward to the present.
For me, I have a fantastic job teaching a subject I love: Physical
Education.
For Duy, he's finishing up his kinesiology major at Long Beach and
cycles through La traffic everyday.
For Ryan, he's lost 30+ pounds and is running and cycling to school
daily.
For some cycling is a recreational hobby, for other's a lifestyle, for
my three friends and I cycling has become the major changing point in
our lives.

Sorry for the rant. Kinda of felt like reflecting. Here's the link the
the tour pictures.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/sets/72157622918085240/

And for those that are interested in Ryan's story, here's a link to
his blog, Running Chronicles, Following the fight between fat and
fast.
http://runningchronicles.tumblr.com/

Sorry again for the rant. Thanks

-Manny

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Re: [RBW] Re: Building my new Bombadil... at last!!!

[Rene Sterental]

Thanks Ray,

Today has been a very hectic day at work and then I had a date with my wife,
so I guess there won't be any work on the Bombadil tonight. However, I have
decided to return the Rampage 29x2.35 tires and replace them with the
Specialized El Capitan Control tires. I'm going to test a 2.2 in the front
and a 2.0 in the back. If the 2.2 is still too wide, then I'll exchange it
for another 2.0, but I think this combo will work well.

I'll have to arrange to meet with you on the weekend of the 19th or the
following week as I'll be on vacation for Christmas. I'm sure you'll want to
check the Bombadil in person... :-)

René

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:12 AM, Ray Shine  wrote:

> Rene -- Looking forward to a maiden voyage report.  You hit a home run with
> the color scheme! Fantastic looking green.
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, Orthie251 * wrote:
>
>
> From: Orthie251 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Building my new Bombadil... at last!!!
> To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
> Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 12:25 AM
>
>
> Well, here is the last update for tonight... it's past midnight and I
> have to go to work tomorrow... :-(
>
> Finished installing the drivetrain:
> - Shimano XT low-normal rear derailer and XT front derailer. Had to
> reverse the B-screw to clear the 12-36 rear cassette, since I'm not
> using a Shadow rear derailer. Have yet to install the shifters and
> cables, they'll go last after I tape the handlebar. The Shimano Dura-
> Ace chain went at full length, no need to cut it.
> - Installed the front brake, Paul polished Neo-Retro. To get the 3"
> recommended in the instructions above the tire for the cable hanger, I
> had to use a regular brake cable as the hanger cable that came with
> the brakes was too short. May need to get a longer one just so it has
> the little tab to facilitate engaging/disengaging it. I also used Velo-
> Orange Rene Herse style cable hangers, instead of the standard (ugly)
> ones that come with the brakes. Took my sweet time to set up
> everything, we'll see tomorrow how it works...
>
> Added the photos from this last part to the set:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/
>
> Tomorrow we shall continue...
>
> René
>
>
>
> On Dec 7, 9:25 pm, Rene Sterental 
> http://mc/compose?to=orthie...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > Today in the afternoon there was a very nice break in the rain and I
> drove
> > up to RBW to pick up my new Bombadil frame. Such a long anticipation...
>
> >
> > Pictures of current progress can be found here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/sets/72157622958472288/
> >
> > René
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[cyclotourist]

It looks great!  Perfect size after you get used to the idea of it!



On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote:

> I guess I should note that when I first straddle the bike I was terribly
> worried that it was too big. I'm a 95 pbh and this is a 66cm QB. The thing
> is, I could feel the top tube pretty high up there and had a moment.
>
> Then I realized I wasn't wearing shoes. I put on my normal riding shoes
> (just plain old New Balance walking shoes really) and tried again. It still
> felt a bit big but then I lifted the bike and really jammed it up there as
> that's as high as it's going to get. The bike was quite a ways off the
> ground so really there's plenty of clearance.
>
> I guess that's what happens to new Riv owners the first time they
> experience a properly sized frame. :-)
>
> As for the actually fit when riding...perfect. Really perfect.
>
> It's dark now and as I don't have my lighting worked out so I'm done for
> the day. I had a nice 10 mile ride though which was enough to absolutely
> fall in love. I'll be riding as a commuter the rest of the week and
> hopefully this weekend I'll get to try it on a longer ride, maybe Kailua and
> back (60 miles or so).
>
> Aloha!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Robert F. Harrison 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm not much of a photographer, but I did my best. I'll be honest, it was
>> tough; I wanted to rip the box open and build it up immediately. I tried to
>> slow down a bit and take some images along the way.
>>
>> I've put the whole thing on my flickr page at:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157622964863214/
>>
>> The sets starts with the bike being taken off of the UPS truck...yes, I
>> kept checking the street. :-)
>>
>> I hope the images document the packing enough for folks to at least get
>> some idea of how they do it!
>>
>> Here's what happened...
>>
>> I didn't have time to do anything when the bike arrived besides open the
>> box to be sure there was actually a bike in there. I snapped a couple of
>> shots, then dragged the box inside so I could get off to a luncheon and go
>> back to work for a bit.
>>
>> After what seemed like a really long time I made it home. It was really
>> only about 3pm at this point.
>>
>> I then began pulling things out of the box, photographing as best I could
>> as I went.
>>
>> Once it was all in pieces everywhere I made some executive decisions. I
>> could either build it up completely, putting on the fenders (the SKS silver
>> plastic model) and the Nitto front rack, or I could get it mostly together
>> and go for a ride.
>>
>> I chose the ride of course.
>>
>> It took about an hour of unpacking and building before I was ready for a
>> test ride around the block.
>>
>> For those of you who wonder, the bike was packed superbly. Even the
>> plastic bubble wrap was cut precisely to fit around stays and the like. I
>> was very impressed. Still am.
>>
>> After a ride around the block I took it back upstairs and packed a little
>> kit just in case I had trouble, readjusted the seat and handlebars, and took
>> off down the road. Within a block I realized I was going to have to get swap
>> sides on the gearing. I had Rich build my wheels to be a bit better than
>> stock because I'm a bit of clydesdale. They have the standard QB Suzue hubs
>> rear and aft but Synergy rims instead of the Mavic. I have a White dual
>> 16-19 on one side and no name 22 on the flip. Up front is the standard
>> 32-40, for now at least. When bike shipped it was running 32-22. I could
>> climb the walls on the side of my building but was outrunning myself on the
>> flat Honolulu streets.
>>
>> No trouble switching - took a minute the first time.
>>
>> Because I had no 700c tubes around I went to one of the several LBSs in
>> the area. I'm not going to mention it because the guys were a bit confused
>> by my Quickbeam. "Dude, that's way, way too big for you." "How much does it
>> weigh?" "Did you take the derailleurs off?" In short they didn't know what
>> to make of it.
>>
>> After getting a couple of tubes I was off. I rode down the Ala Moana Park
>> and then to Kakaako Waterfront Park, then home.
>>
>> The ride was...superb. That's the only way to describe it. I did have to
>> adjust the seat height a couple of times...probably will again tomorrow.
>>
>> This bike is nimble, easy to ride, and very, very comfortable. It is,
>> without a doubt, the best bike I've ever owned and the best single speed
>> I've ever ridden. I rode a couple of geared bikes at Rivendell last March so
>> those take the cake as best geared bikes. :-)
>>
>> I've got to work out some details yet. There's the front rack, the
>> fenders, and I'll have to do something about lighting. I'm thinking of
>> getting a SON at some point because this really is my commuter and I ride a
>> lot at night. But I'll worry about lighting later. For now I'll get by with
>> what I've got.
>>
>> Aloha!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:22 PM, doug peterson  wro

[RBW] Re: Current Classics Tuesdayt Batch Ends on a Bleriot

[charlie]

I had the same experience and wonder also but do always enjoy seeing
so many nice bicycles at one site.


On Dec 8, 7:30 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thanks for the update of your wonderful site. I am curious about how
> you prioritize updates. I submitted an Independent Fabrication
> cyclocross bike to crossbi...@cyclofiend.com in October, and since I
> didn't hear back, re-submitted in mid November. Still no answer, so I
> sent an email to your email address listed in this forum. Still no
> answer.
>
> I know you have a day job, and I love your site, I am just trying to
> figure out why I haven't heard back from you, and why my bike hasn't
> posted to the site.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Gernot
>
> On Dec 9, 3:32 am, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>
> > Very nice shot indeed! Nice bike too!
>
> > René
>
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:08 PM, CycloFiend wrote:
>
> > > I know that Manuel posted his flickr link here already, but I just found
> > > myself lingering over him images this morning as I was updating the 
> > > gallery
> > > -
>
> > >http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc745-manuelacosta1209.html
>
> > > I really love the second image and the sunset shot. Great stuff!
>
> > > - Jim
>
> > > --
> > > Jim Edgar
> > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net
>
> > > Current Classics Bicycle Photo Gallery -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc
> > > Cross Bike Photo Gallery -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx
> > > Single Speed Garage Photo Gallery -http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg
> > > Working Bikes & Practical Hardware -http://www.cyclofiend.com/working
> > > Work Shops of the iBob's -http://www.cyclofiend.com/shop
>
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>
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> > > anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace."
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam Arrived Ten Minutes Ago!

[CycloFiend]

on 12/8/09 9:00 PM, Robert F. Harrison at rfharri...@gmail.com wrote:
> I'm not much of a photographer, but I did my best. I'll be honest, it was
> tough; I wanted to rip the box open and build it up immediately. I tried to
> slow down a bit and take some images along the way. 
>
> I've put the whole thing on my flickr page at:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157622964863214/


Great images! 
Thanks for sharing the joy and the wonderful scenery with everyone.

Quickbeam aloha, indeed... ;^)

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