Looking for logitech webcams testers/device info

[Landry Breuil]

Hi,

sending this to a wider audience on misc@, to fix the microphone (cf
https://marc.info/?t=15298427072&r=1&w=2) on a
variety of logitech webcams (mostly the Cxxx{,HD}?) i'd need the lsusb
-v output for the corresponding devices.

If you have a logitech webcam where the mic doesnt work (looking for
'uaudio0: audio descriptors make no sense, error=4' in dmesg) this is
your chance to help fix it.
Of course if you have a logitech webcam where the mic works out of the
box, this information is also valuable !

Install usbutils package, run lsusb to find the device ids
corresponding to the logitech device (starts with 046d:, per
https://usb-ids.gowdy.us/read/UD/046d) and send me privately the output
of:

lsusb -v -d 046d:

where  matches your webcam.

if you receive directly this e-mail in bcc, it's because i've found
occurences of 'audio descriptors make no sense' corresponding to a
logitech webcam in our dmesg archive sent by you, this information is
definitely valuable so please keep sending dmesg per
https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#SendDmesg :)

Landry

Re: usr.sbin/wake removal

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On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Emilio Perea  wrote:

> If there is no room in base, it would be nice to have it in ports.

There's no more room in ports either.

Landry

more details on the last security/nss update

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On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 01:41:27AM -0700, Landry Breuil wrote:
> CVSROOT:  /cvs
> Module name:  ports
> Changes by:   lan...@cvs.openbsd.org  2012/12/31 01:41:27
> 
> Modified files:
>   security/nss   : Makefile distinfo 
> 
> Log message:
> Update to nss-3.14.1.with.ckbi.1.93, which explicitely distrusts
> "TURKTRUST Mis-issued Intermediate CA 1" & "TURKTRUST Mis-issued
> Intermediate CA 2".
> (added in #768547, removed in #825022)

And for people interested in the details of that security issue :
http://lwn.net/Articles/531346/
https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2013/01/03/revoking-trust-in-two-turktrust-certficates/
http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.fr/2013/01/enhancing-digital-certificate-security.html
provide more info on it. Basically, a fraudulent cert for *.google.com
was issued by an intermediate CA mistakenly issued by TURKTRUST.

oops.

Re: Secure PDF viewer

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On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Kevin Chadwick  wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 08:24:36 + (UTC)
> Stuart Henderson wrote:
>
> > I'm not
> > sure whether the in-browser renderers are based on these or something
> > else,
>
> Firefox uses jspdf (javascript pdf)
>
> I think but am not sure if this is the right link
>
> https://github.com/MrRio/jsPDF
>

Why do ppl feel compelled to reply when they have no clue about a subject ?
Firefox uses https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/ developped my mozilla
itself, and it's as "secure" as any pdf viewer.

Landry

Re: SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV not defined error building firefox-esr-31.5.3 Re: differences between pk_add -u and building from source at stable

[Landry Breuil]

I'm sorry, but you've generated so many threads over the same build error
that i dont understand anymore what you're trying to achieve, what
situation you're coming from, and what you're doing to get this error.

Is this on 5.6/i386 ? with -stable patches applied ? Trying to build a port
from the stable branch ?

SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV is defined in nss (see
http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/ident?i=SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV) ,
so you'll have to figure out if firefox build correctly detects the version
of nss installed on your system, and if that version has this define.

On current this is what i have with nss 3.18:
/usr/local/include/nss/ssl.h:#define SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV   28
On plain 5.6 with nss 3.16.2., i dont have that define, so maybe esr is
subtly messing up requirements here.

At some point, if you encounter too many build issues you're not able to
deal with, you should give some trust to the people who know what they're
doing, and just use the stable packages from mtier (which, of course,
managed to build that firefox esr version afaict)

Landry

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Joel Rees  wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2015 7:26 PM, "Joel Rees"  wrote:
> >
> > After about six hours
>
> More like eight hours.
>
> Just finished a re-compile without the room fan and got to the same
> error. (No overheating, either, with one less drive.)
>
> > with a room fan aimed at the computer to keep it from overheating, I get
> this error about SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV undefined. Most of the error
> scrolled off the screen and is not in the buffer because I had a different
> virtual console up monitoring the CPU temperature.  Was not using tee to
> capture the output because I was trying to keep the burden on the drive
> controller light.
> >
> > (I'm pretty sure it was the drive controller overheating rather than the
> CPU. I had to move it to a different slot to get it close enough to the
> case fan.)
> >
> > I have this much information still on the screen:
>
> Kept the scrollback this time:
>
> > --
> [...Need to find a place to post the screen shots. ...]
>
> /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSIOLayer.cpp:
> In function 'bool {anonymous}::retryDueToTLSIntolerance(PRErrorCode,
> nsSSSocketInfo*)':
>
> /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSIOLayer.cpp:959:10:
> error: 'SSL_ERROR_INAPPROPRIATE_FALLBACK_ALERT' was not declared in
> this scope
>  case SSL_ERROR_INAPPROPRIATE_FALLBACK_ALERT:
>   ^
>
> /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSIOLayer.cpp:
> In function 'nsresult nsSSLIOLayerSetOptions(PRFileDesc*, bool, const
> char*, const char*, int32_t, nsNSSSocketInfo*)':
>
> /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSIOLayer.cpp:2328:41:
> error: 'SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV' was not declared in this scope
> > if (SECSuccess != SSL_OptionSet(fd, SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV,
> true)) {
> >
> > /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/config/rules.mk:1001:
> recipe for target 'nsNSSIOLayer.o' failed
> > gmake[3]: *** [nsNSSIOLayer.o] Error 1
> > gmake[3]: Leaving directory
> '/usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/build-i386/security/manager/ssl/src'
> > /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/config/recurse.mk:95:
> recipe for target 'security/manager/ssl/src/compile' failed
> > gmake[2]: *** [security/manager/ssl/src/compile] Error 2
> > gmake[2]: Leaving directory
> '/usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/build-i386'
> > /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/config/recurse.mk:95:
> recipe for target 'compile' failed
> > gmake[1]: [compile] Error 2
> > gmake[1]: Leaving directory
> '/usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/build-i386'
> > /usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/mozilla-esr31/config/recurse.mk:592:
> recipe for target 'all' failed
> > gmake: *** [all] Error 2
> > *** Error 2 in . (/usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/bsd.port.mk:2727
> '/usr/ports/pobj/firefox-esr-31.5.3/build-i386/.build_done')
> > *** Error 1 in /usr/ports/www/firefox-esr (/usr/ports/infrastructure/mk/
> bsd.port.mk:2455 'build')
> > 
> >
> > if I didn't make a mistake typing that in. I did a pwd and lost the line
> about SSL_ENABLE_FALLBACK_SCSV being undefined, sorry.
> >
> > Any thoughts while I muck around in that directory and go looking for
> the source, after I get back from a family errand? (Maybe I'll just give up
> on firefox-esr v. 31.5.3.)
> >
> > On Apr 3, 2015 4:22 PM, "Joel Rees"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 3, 2015 6:35 AM, "Joel Rees"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > >
> > > > Probably should grab something to monitor the temperatures, etc.,
> while I try building the compiler again. Maybe use job control to suspend
> the build process every five minutes or so and let things cool down. (Since
> I can't afford a new motherboard right now.)
> > > >
> > >
> > > Moving keyboards and books away from the case 

Re: davical on openbsd

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On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Marcus MERIGHI  wrote:
>
> paol...@gmail.com (Paolo Aglialoro), 2015.04.15 (Wed) 03:10 (CEST):
> > is there someone who already had experiences with davical in
> > production on openbsd?

Yes, been running it at work since 6 years, previously on debian and
then on openbsd. Also a personal instance for caldav & carddav, using
lightning/thunderbird on the client side or caldav/carddav-sync on
android.
Just works.

> > and internals'/externals' invitations?

invitations just work fine with lightning. Havent tested another client.


> Are you sure you've chosen the right tool (davical) for the task
> (caldav)? Please read the archives:
>
> most traffic:
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davical-general
> seldom used:
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/davical-devel
>
> summary: original author left, project is being taken over by a
> community.

Just because the traffic is low doesnt really mean anything. davical
has been here for years, and has a big existing userbase (including
clients with iThings). Sure it's php, the UI is a bit dated (but who
needs it besides admin?) and the install procedure is a bit
cumbersome, but once it runs you dont need to touch it anymore.

Landry

Re: seamonkey error

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There was a linking issue at some point (a soname thing) that we had a
patch for, you might want to look in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1107063 - maybe we're
missing a patch for seamonkey there that got commited upstream but
since seamonkey has releng issues those days they dont make
releases...

(sorry, cant work on this until a while. And please, next time, post
this to ports@, not to garbage^Wmisc@)

Landry

On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Stuart Henderson  wrote:
> On 2015-05-22, David Coppa  wrote:
>> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 4:20 PM, Eivind Eide  wrote:
>>> No, sorry. I had openldap-client installed already, dependency of 
>>> libreoffice.
>>> But it doesn't change anything, the error remains the same...
>>
>> What about the workaround below?
>>
>> # ln -s /usr/local/lib/libldap-2.4.so.13.0 /usr/local/lib/libldap60.so.41.0
>
> I'm pretty sure that is not right...
>
> seamonkey-2.33.1p0:www/seamonkey,-main:/usr/local/lib/seamonkey-2.33.1/libldap60.so.41.0
> thunderbird-31.7.0:mail/mozilla-thunderbird,-main:/usr/local/lib/thunderbird-31.7.0/libldap60.so.29.0

HEADS-UP: Firefox 46 now uses Gtk+3, WebRTC is enabled

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Hi,

for those who dont follow ports-changes@, i've updated
www/mozilla-firefox to version 46.0, and following upstream this now
defaults to use Gtk+3 toolkit. There were issues with Gtk 3.20, but
most/all have been solved by taking a jumbo patch from Fedora (see
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234158 among others) -
so besides theme changes and graphics glitches, this change should be
transparent to end-users.

If you want to stay with Gtk+2, install firefox-esr, but the latter will
move to Gtk+3 when it is updated to 52. I *might* provide the
infrastructure to build gtk2 FLAVORs like it was possible for gtk3 since
firefox 30, but this is not done, and i wont spend time on this unless
there's a real need.

At the same time, i've enabled (well, stopped disabling) WebRTC code -
nothing in it has changed OpenBSD-wise in the past months, but i'm not
in a position to debug/test it much myself nowadays, so end-users get to
dogfood it. Since it works on Linux/etc, it should mostly work on
OpenBSD, besides sound needing more love (ping ratchov@)- webcam sortof
worked last i tried, as data channels. If you want to test it, there are
plenty of example sites around, start with the ones linked on
https://mozilla.github.io/webrtc-landing/

If you have issues/crashes, direct your reports to
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ and cc me there.

If you dont like it or have security concerns for the paranoids, set
media.peerconnection.enabled to false in about:config.

Landry

Re: systemd-*

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On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 08:46:27PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Was reading http://boycottsystemd.org/ and they wrote:
> > 
> > "The OpenBSD Foundation is currently developing OS-agnostic, BSD-licensed
> > replacements ,
> > which will likely prove the most viable."
> > 
> > Is this even something that's being worked on?
> > 
> > http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html#systemd
> > 
> > Just curious.

Agreed, the wording used on boycottsystemd.org is clearly misleading, and
spreads misinformation.

> That writeup is agenda-driven bullshit.
> 
> 
> 1) The OpenBSD Foundation does not develop any kind of software.
>They are a funding agency for the OpenBSD project.
> 
> 2) The OpenBSD Project is what does development.  The OpenBSD project
>is not doing any such developement.
> 
> 3) There is a Google-selected GSOC project by a student to attempt
>to make some sense -- in various forms -- of the problems introduced
>by systemd, and try to resolve them -- in various forms -- to make
>supposedly previously portable software once again portable.
> 
> 4) There are some OpenBSD Project developers helping that student, I
>believe.

Yes, we've mentored Ian during the 4 months of the GSOC project, which
was (according to our own standards, and Google's) a success. We
exchanged a lot on the design and architecture of the project, and he
wrote all the code.

> 4) There is absolutely nothing anywhere saying the result would be
>OS-agnostic.  Someone is totally full of shit.

Well, the topic of the project (per 
http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/gsoc2014.html#systemd)
was " Provide bsd-licenced, os-agnostic, dbus-api compatible
systemd-{hostnamed,timedated,localed,logind} replacements", so even if
the development was done so far on OpenBSD, it was meant from the start
to be easily 'portable' across operating systems, since there was no
reason to do the same mistake systemd developers did on purpose (ie make
it linux-only). Depending on glib and d-bus, it was *never* meant to be
part of the basesystem.

The portable part is not done now, since we want a working &
full-featured codebase first. But istr a freebsd developer already
started working on porting what we have to freebsd, and i think someone
looked into making it work on linux, because there is interest in having
alternatives to systemd there.

> 5) There is nothing to show.

Sorry, but there *is* code to show. As one already said, there's an
article on undeadly about the
project (http://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&sid=20140915064856),
There is a code repository
(https://uglyman.kremlin.cc/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?p=systembsd.git;a=summary),
and there is a WIP port for anyone who wants to help developing/debug it.
(https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/tree/master/sysutils/systembsd)
So yes, that's not a fully working full-fledged replacement for systemd
components needed by some desktop components from the ports tree *yet*,
but at least we have the start of it, and its architecture is solid.
Contributions (with code!) are of course welcome.

Landry

Re: HD 'Analysis'

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On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Marco Peereboom  wrote:
> I once wrote a fancy dd to recover a disk that jordan used for pictures.
> It worked well enough to get the crap off before the disk totally.
> Anyway I dusted it off and added a man page and stuff.  Have a look at
> http://www.peereboom.us/diskrescue/
> if you want to play.

Ah, and btw we have sysutils/testdisk in ports for all those kind of
recoveries.

Landry

Re: About the OpenBSD repository

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Hi,

can we please stop this ?
Some devs are aware of dvcs advantages, some use them locally for their
own developments, some share things between some devs using dvcs public
repos, some thinks that CVS has some weaknesses (which *might* be adressed in
opencvs, once it is feature-compliant with gnucvs) some are against them
and don't want to hear about them (for their own reasons), we've already
discussed that at length on misc, there's no point in arguing more.

Thx.

Re: NFS exporting /usr/ports and -maproot=root

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Re

I'll add to that debug session that it works if i add spud to exports
line and locally mount /usr/ports :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ #mount -t nfs spud:/usr/ports /tmp/blah/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ #touch /tmp/blah/test

And tcpdump log on lo0 :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ #tcpdump -s 65000 -i lo0 port nfsd or port sunrpc
tcpdump: listening on lo0, link-type LOOP
20:13:08.734530 spud.889 > spud.nfsd: xid 0x74c57a86 124 access fh
33,252/664798720 0002
20:13:08.734847 spud.nfsd > spud.889: xid 0x74c57a86 reply ok 120 access c 0002
20:13:08.734982 spud.889 > spud.nfsd: xid 0x74c57aba 120 getattr fh
33,252/3064333824
20:13:08.735117 spud.nfsd > spud.889: xid 0x74c57aba reply ok 112
getattr REG 644 ids 1000/9 sz 0x0
20:13:08.735230 spud.889 > spud.nfsd: xid 0x74c57ae3 128 lookup fh
33,252/664798720 "test"
20:13:08.735396 spud.nfsd > spud.889: xid 0x74c57ae3 reply ok 236
lookup fh 33,252/3064333824
20:13:08.735684 spud.889 > spud.nfsd: xid 0x74c57bbb 124 access fh
33,252/664798720 0002
20:13:08.735859 spud.nfsd > spud.889: xid 0x74c57bbb reply ok 120 access c 0002
20:13:08.736009 spud.889 > spud.nfsd: xid 0x74c57bd4 148 setattr fh
33,252/3064333824
20:13:08.736208 spud.nfsd > spud.889: xid 0x74c57bd4 reply ok 144 setattr

Landry

On 10/19/07, Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/19/07, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Again: set WRKOBJDIR on the client side and you don't need
> > > > > to be writing in the remotely mounted tree at all.
> >
> > > I'm already setting WRKOBJDIR outside nfs-dir, the problem is more for
> > > /usr/ports/packages .. i'd like it to be shared too, to install the
> > > same package on various sparc64 for example. And this dir needs to be
> > > root-writable, as it uses sudo..
> >
> > You also need to set DISTDIR and PKGREPOSITORYBASE
> > - see examples in the FAQ.
>
> I now several workarounds and tweaks like this exists :) I just want
> to understand why this setup doesn't work.
>
> > > I'd put it outside nfs if i don't find a solution, but btw i'm more
> > > interested in understanding why -maproot=root doesn't work in my case
> >
> > Send your complete server:/etc/exports, client:/etc/fstab,
> > verbose log of server:mountd, server:nfsd, and a full (-s 65000) tcpdump
> > of the communication.
>
> server is spud, client for tests is renton (10.246.200.10).
> server:/etc/exports:
> /nfsroot/net_sparc64 -ro allison
> /nfsroot/open_sparc64 -ro swanney
> /usr/ports -maproot=0:0 renton swanney lizzy
>
> client fstab:
> spud:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs rw,nosuid 0 0
>
> mountd -d output:
> Got line /nfsroot/net_sparc64 -ro allison
> Making new ep fs=0x0,0xfc214a5e
> doing opt -ro allison
> got host allison
> exporting /nfsroot/net_sparc64
> Got line /nfsroot/open_sparc64 -ro swanney
> Found ep fs=0x0,0xfc214a5e
> doing opt -ro swanney
> got host swanney.fr.homeunix.org
> exporting /nfsroot/open_sparc64
> Got line /usr/ports -maproot=0:0 renton swanney lizzy
> Found ep fs=0x0,0xfc214a5e
> doing opt -maproot=0:0 renton swanney lizzy
> got host renton.fr.homeunix.org
> got host swanney.fr.homeunix.org
> got host lizzy.fr.homeunix.org
> exporting /usr/ports
> exporting /usr/ports
> exporting /usr/ports
> unexporting / /
> Getting mount list.
> Here we go.
> Got mount request from 10.246.200.10
> rpcpath: /usr/ports
> Mount successful for /usr/ports by 10.246.200.10.
>
> (here i've ran sudo mount /usr/ports on the client)
>
> renton:~/ $ls -ld /usr/ports
> drwxrwxr-x  47 root  wsrc  1024 Oct 19 19:12 /usr/ports (same on
> client and server)
> renton:~/ $id
> uid=1000(landry) gid=1000(landry) groups=1000(landry), 0(wheel), 9(wsrc)
> renton:~/ $touch /usr/ports/test
> renton:~/
>
> Here i have tcpdump output (same for server and client) for this
> sucessful file creation :
> 19:56:29.030254 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb06905b (NFSv3) 112
> lookup fh 33,252/664798720 "test"
> 19:56:29.030771 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb06905b reply ok 116
> lookup ERROR: No such file or directory
> 19:56:29.030843 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069116 (NFSv3) 112
> lookup fh 33,252/664798720 "test"
> 19:56:29.031099 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb069116 reply ok 116
> lookup ERROR: No such file or directory
> 19:56:29.031131 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069170 (NFSv3) 144
> create fh 33,252/664798720 "test"
> 19:56:29.033013 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb069170 reply ok 268
> create fh 33,252/3064333824
> 19:56:29.033097 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069202 (NFSv3) 104
> getattr fh 33,252/3064333824
> 1

OpenCON'07 is over..

[Landry Breuil]

And it was great !

Thanks goes to all the organizers who set up a great event, the talks
were really interesting and highly technicals,
and it was a great pleasure to meet in person people i only know by
mailing-lists.
Lunch and breaks were perfect too, and OpenSSH party a really nice event :)
I'm looking forward to get the slides on the website, and will get the
pictures out of my camera asap..

See you next year.

Landry

Re: How to find all package files

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On Jan 7, 2008 4:33 PM, Russell Gadd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am new to OpenBSD and I am not sure what is the correct way to find
> packages.
>
> For example I have tried to install the xfce window manager, and at
> first I looked at the list of files in the packages list and there were
> a lot of files with xfce in the name / description. I looked for one
> which said something like "this is the main package for xfce4" so that
> installing that and all dependencies would do the job, but couldn't find
> such a file. I resorted to looking for xfce in the INDEX and using all
> files where this was mentioned, i.e. forming a list with
>
> grep "xfce" INDEX | cut -d "|" -f 1 | sed 's/$/.tgz/g' >
> /tmpdir/xfce4pkglist
>
> then
> pkg_add `cat /tmpdir/xfce4pkglist`
>
> I realise that for such a package there would be some parts which were
> optional, so needed to be separated out, but I thought there must be a
> more reliable way to determine which files to include.
>
> Is there a better way to do this?

I recently added a README.OpenBSD to xfce4-session, this may help you
(concerns -current, but may be probably applied to -stable)
see 
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/ports/x11/xfce4/xfce4-session/files/README.OpenBSD?rev=1.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

And no, there is no meta-package and things like that.
Landry

Re: GDM-2.18.2 & XFCE4.4.1 issue at OpenBSD 4.2-stable-i386

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On Feb 5, 2008 9:49 AM, Jon Garate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello people @ misc,
> I've successfully built both the -stable base system and the X system
> (xenocara) and I'm trying to setup GDM properly to combine with XFCE4.
> Right now, XFCE4 works after issuing startx command (I've configure
> .xinitrc properly apparently).

with /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 i suppose ?

> I've done some research in the net and everywhere I could but I don't
> seem to get it working through GDM login. Can anybody shed some light in
> setting up .xinitrc/.xsession or whatever files I need to get it running
> properly?

See http://wiki.xfce.org/faq#starting_xfce, section 'Setting up GDM'

Landry

Re: GDM-2.18.2 & XFCE4.4.1 issue at OpenBSD 4.2-stable-i386

[Landry Breuil]

On Feb 5, 2008 1:38 PM, Jon Garate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jon Garate(e)k dio:
>
> > Landry Breuil(e)k dio:
> >> On Feb 5, 2008 9:49 AM, Jon Garate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello people @ misc,
> >>> I've successfully built both the -stable base system and the X system
> >>> (xenocara) and I'm trying to setup GDM properly to combine with XFCE4.
> >>> Right now, XFCE4 works after issuing startx command (I've configure
> >>> .xinitrc properly apparently).
> >>>
> >>
> >> with /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 i suppose ?
> >>
> >>
> >>> I've done some research in the net and everywhere I could but I don't
> >>> seem to get it working through GDM login. Can anybody shed some
> >>> light in
> >>> setting up .xinitrc/.xsession or whatever files I need to get it
> >>> running
> >>> properly?
> >>>
> >>
> >> See http://wiki.xfce.org/faq#starting_xfce, section 'Setting up GDM'
> >>
> >> Landry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > Thanks, I already knew the startxfce4 method., which manually works.
> > I've also taken a look at xfce's wiki site and tried setting
> > Xfce.desktop in the folders mentioned, which didn't work.
> > I also tried including Xfce.desktop in /usr/local/share/xsessions/
> > (which is where gnome.desktop is located) and configured it with the
> > same permissions as gnome.desktop, still no success. I also tried
> > setting "exec startxfce4" in both .xinitrc and .xsession files with
> > proper permissions, guess what, no success. GDM keeps trying
> > gnome(fail), then gnome failsafe(fail) and then xterm failsafe.
> > Looks like some permissions of some file aren't correct but I just
> > can't figure out. I include my Xfce.desktop file in here, just if it
> > helps:
> >
> > [Desktop Entry]
> > Encoding=UTF-8
> > Name=Xfce 4.4 Session
> > Comment=Xfce 4.4 Session
> > Exec=/usr/local/bin/startxfce4
> > Type=Application
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> Ok, I just found the solution. As stated in this archive post:
> http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/openbsd/2007-11/0662.html
>
> If you install gdm from the package system, by default makes the file
> "Xsession" in /etc/X11/gdm non executable. After changing execute
> permissions (chmod +x) all the standart procedures (setting up .desktop
> files, etc...) worked just fine. Just wondering if the package system
> guys can change this up? :-)

It is already fixed in -current. I've also just added an xfce4.desktop
file to xfce4-session package, now it's provided by default.

Landry

Re: The Dilbert Problem...

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On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:46 PM, Karl Sjodahl - dunceor
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >
>  > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Mayuresh Kathe
>  >  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  > Hi,
>  >  >
>  >  >  There's a strange incident that's repeatable on my system (4.2).
>  >  >
>  >  >  Open up Firefox, make it load "www.dilbert.com", then open another tab
>  >  >  and visit any other website, then do the same for 2~3 more tabs.
>  >  >
>  >  >  The first (dilbert) tab takes a long time to load during which the
>  >  >  other tabs too show nothing, they get stuck at "Looking up..."
>  >  >
>  >  >  Is it a Firefox problem or something to do with the system?
>  >  >
>  >  >  Best,
>  >  >
>  >  >  ~Mayuresh
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >
>  >  I have seen this on both Windows and OpenBSD. The later firefox
>  >  releases (like from 2.0.0.3-2.0.0.5 something) I have seen problems
>  >  with having more tabs open.
>  >  I used to have a lot of tabs but now I have restricted myself to 3-4
>  >  or firefox is not useable.
>
>  I forgot to mention, my Firefox version is 2.0.0.6
>  Also I've only got a total of 3~4 tabs open while performing the Dilbert 
> test.
>  Taking your cue, I tried an experiment, I opened up 10 tabs, but
>  without the Dilbert site and all of them opened up in parallel.

Seems like an ipv6-dns-resolution problem to me.

My 2c.

i386 Crash after a certain uptime ?

[Landry Breuil]

Hi,

I just had, for the second time, a weird freeze on an old Celeron 400
running OpenBSD/i386.
Box was unreachable through network, but still up. Syslog normal warning
messages on console, no DDB prompt or panic backtrace.
Plugging a keyboard didn't give me access to the console, i had to hard
reset the box. Nothing in logs, and box is not running special software
(postfix, irssi, httpd, named, courier-imap...)
The weird thing is that i had the same issue in september last year, box
freezed after 196 days and was running 3.8 at this moment. This was the
occasion to update to 3.9. And this time, it crashed after 197 days.
Coincidence ? Hardware counter overflow in nic ? Pf counter overflow ?

dmesg is available here : http://gruiik.info/stuff/dmesg
I can provide more info if needed.

Thanks for any indication,
Landry

Xdm fix in Xenocara

[Landry Breuil]

Hi misc@,

dunno if it has already been reported, since the switch to xenocara xdm
didn't want to start anymore,
it was complaining (/var/log/xdm.log) for missing files in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm (which didn't exist..)
Maybe it's only on my boxes (regularly updated from snapshots, not fresh
installs)

As a quickfix i manually symlinked /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm@ -> /etc/X11/xdm/
and it works now,
but i suppose it should be fixed in xdm at compile/configure-time ?

Landry

Re: Xdm fix in Xenocara

[Landry Breuil]

2007/5/10, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:22:58AM +0200, Landry Breuil wrote:
> > dunno if it has already been reported, since the switch to xenocara xdm
> > didn't want to start anymore,
> > it was complaining (/var/log/xdm.log) for missing files in
> > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm (which didn't exist..)
>
> That's a configuration problem, you probably still have references
> to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm in your /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.


Yes, you're right, files in /etc/X11/xdm  are rather outdated (they're here
since the installation..)
Installing xetc41.tgz solved this :)

(blame me, i don't update etc41.tgz and xetc41.tgz each times)

Landry

s3virge pci card on xenocara/sparc64 ?

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,

i'm trying to make an old Ultra 10 working in dual-screen/xinerama, with
onboard ati (works fine at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and additional old s3 pci 
(detected
by kernel).
I've seen on xenocara/driver/Makefile that s3virge driver, which this card
normally uses on other archs/OS, is not enabled on sparc64. Is there a
particular reason, there is a known problem with this hardware, or is it
only because sparc64 are normally only bundled/tested with ati's (as stated
on http://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html) ? May i try building the driver, or
it's not worth trying ? is it possible to build _only_ the driver/ part of
xenocara, taking the rest of xenocara from snapshot ?
I've tried with wsfb(4), but the primary card is always taken, even when
specifiying BusID..
If i make the card work, do i have a chance to get Xinerama ?

Mandatory dmesg : http://gcu.info/~gaston/sparc64/dmesg.boot
Xorg.0.log, when trying with wsfb and BusID 2:1:0 and using onboard ati as
default : http://gcu.info/~gaston/sparc64/Xorg.0.log

Thanks,
Landry

Re: s3virge pci card on xenocara/sparc64 ?

[Landry Breuil]

2007/5/13, Edd Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi,
>
>
> On 13/05/07, Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i'm trying to make an old Ultra 10 working in dual-screen/xinerama, with
> > onboard ati (works fine at [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and additional old s3 pci
> (detected
> > by kernel).
>
> As far as I am aware sparc64 requires "OpenBoot aware" graphics cards.
> I'm not sure how it works in the case of a secondary graphics card for
> X only however.
>
> Just an idea.
>
> If it doesnt work then try a creator3d / elite3d?


--
> Best Regards
>
> Edd
>
> PS. Would you mind if I grab that xorg.conf? I have a U10 that I never
> got X working on.




here it is : http://gcu.info/~gaston/sparc64/xorg.conf-u10
basically, it's the result of X -configure + a few tweaks to make the sun
mouse work.

I think i'll try to build the s3virge driver upon my next upgrade on this
box, this'd be really neat to make this old card work with it.

Landry

Keys lots in Xenocara update ?

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,

i lost various keys in last Xenocara update (i had the same issue
when updating to snapshot with *41.tgz from 22/5 + x*41.tgz from 8/5 and
to latest snapshot from ftp.ca, *41.tgz from 25/5 + x*41.tgz from 24/5).
i removed /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 before update, and unrolled
xetc41.tgz.

to get my missing keys back, i have to load this .Xmodmap :

keycode 211 = Left
keycode 208 = Up
keycode 213 = Right
keycode 216 = Down
keycode 209 = Prior
keycode 217 = Next
keycode 165 = Control_R
keycode 192 = ISO_Level3_Shift
keycode 207 = Home
keycode 215 = End
keycode 218 = Insert
keycode 219 = Delete

i'm using a dell d410, internal/external keyboard worked really fine with
previous snapshot from ~1/5.

Keyboard config in xorg.conf (tried with both 'dell' and 'pc105' for
XkbModel, wskbd1 is here for an external usb keyboard.)

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option "Protocol" "wskbd"
Option "Device" "/dev/wskbd0"   #"/dev/wskbd1"
Option "XkbModel" "dell"#"pc105"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbLayout" "fr"
EndSection

dmesg : http://gruiik.info/stuff/dmesg.boot

did i miss something ? i can live with this .Xmodmap, just wanted to
report this issue. the same upgrade on my desktop machine with external
usb keyboard didn't show this problem.

thanks for any help,
Landry

ps : as a sidenote, acpi works really fine on this laptop !

hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0=53.55 degC (zone temperature)
hw.sensors.acpiac0.indicator0=On (power supply)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt0=11.10 VDC (voltage)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.volt1=11.83 VDC (current voltage)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour0=6.86 Ah (last full capacity)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour1=0.72 Ah (warning capacity)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour2=0.22 Ah (low capacity)
hw.sensors.acpibat0.amphour3=1.43 Ah (remaining capacity), OK
hw.sensors.acpibat0.raw0=2 (battery charging), OK
hw.sensors.acpibat0.raw1=2699 (rate)
hw.sensors.acpidock0.indicator0=Off (not docked)

Re: Keys lots in Xenocara update ?

[Landry Breuil]

On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 06:53:23PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2007, Matthieu Herrb wrote:
> >>Section "InputDevice"
> >>Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> >>Driver  "kbd"
> >>Option "Protocol" "wskbd"
> >>Option "Device" "/dev/wskbd0"   #"/dev/wskbd1"
> >>Option "XkbModel" "dell"#"pc105"
> >>Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
> >>Option "XkbLayout" "fr"
> >>EndSection
> 
> FYI, I use a dell d420 and I don't use Option "XkbModel" "dell", nor 
> "Protocol" and  "Device" and it works fine.
> But I don't use any external keyboard with it... so it might be a shot 
> in the air ;)
> 

You were right, i commented Protocol, Device and XkbModel and now it
works fine. I didn't get errors in X.org.log, but it seems that now
Protocol is autodetected as "standard". I don't remember why i had to
put "wskbd" to make things work right.
Autodetection in Xorg/Xenocara is becoming better and better :)

Thanks,
Landry

cvs update 'pull-only-changed' model ?

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,

I was wondering if some people already had the idea of setting some kind of
'pull-only-changed' model for cvs update.
I know available methods (cvssync, anoncvs and cvsup) are full pull-model,
where we compare the full local cvs copy with the whole remote repository,
which is :
- time and network consuming for the user
- bandwidth and load consuming for the server

Nowadays, we have various methods to be aware of changes in the repository,
the first coming to mind being subscribing to src-changes@ and
ports-changes@, or refreshing a RSS for a more "user-level" view. For
example, i know the man running freshbsd.org uses ruby and a set of procmail
filters to update his website. This becomes more a 'push-like' model :)

So, basically, the idea would be :
1) parse (perl !) upon mail reception the *-changes@ ml-output, gather
Modified/Added/Removed/Imported files/directories
2) put them in a queue/file
3) use you traditional cvs update method to update _only_ modified parts of
the tree, either manually or with an other cronjob
4) empty the queue

Is it worth trying it, or cvs is already designed to be the least
time/bandwith-consuming possible, and the gain would be near to zero ?
I know this proposal assumes that your tree is always near-up-to-date, or
that you run manual updates if changes@ are not received in a period of time
or update fails, otherwise it may lead to a tree being sync only for some
parts, and other parts being out-of-sync. May this idea lead to errors in
cvs internal files ?
What methods guys are you using ? Normal automated anoncvs up ? Manually
update only changed parts ? Is the load on anoncvs servers neglectable ?
If it has already been discussed, sorry for being lame..

Thanks for any comments/input,

Landry

Re: cvs update 'pull-only-changed' model ?

[Landry Breuil]

2007/5/28, Christian Weisgerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if some people already had the idea of setting some kind
> of
> > 'pull-only-changed' model for cvs update.
> > I know available methods (cvssync, anoncvs and cvsup) are full
> pull-model,
> > where we compare the full local cvs copy with the whole remote
> repository,
>
> No.  CVSync and CVSup only send a meta data summary to the server, the
> server compares this against its own database and only sends diffs of
> the changes back to the client.
>
> > which is :
> > - time and network consuming for the user
> > - bandwidth and load consuming for the server
>
> It really isn't.  And any well-configured CVSync or CVSup server
> keeps a meta data summary in a "scan file" around, so it just needs
> to compare this with the summary sent by the client and _not_ go
> and stat() every file.


Ok, i see now.

AnonCVS is a different story.  CVS remote checkout was not designed
> as a mirroring tool and is horrendously inefficient in every respect.


Yes, i was having the impression that using AnonCVS was terribly slow and
resource-consuming.. updating the ports-tree take 5-10mns.
So, way better using cvsync or cvsup/csup.

I suppose CTM has been deprecated ? It disappeared from the 'official
methods' three years ago, page is still here but snaps/diffs are not
generated since two years... i haven't found an 'official support drop'.

> What methods guys are you using ?
>
> Use CVSync or CVSup to update a local repository copy, which is
> fast and bandwidth-efficient, and run local cvs update from that
> local repository.
>
> Alternatively, if you have no use for the repository, use CVSup (or
> the CSup client) in checkout mode.


I'm regularly updating ports i'm working on, that's why i was asking if it
was possible to update _only_ modified parts of the tree instead of
comparing the whole tree. using AnonCVS was my mistake :)

No comments on my initial idea ? I suppose i'll implement it 'for fun' and
may submit it here someday, if ppl are interested.

Thanks for the clarification,
Landry

Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,

i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after
'Trying bsd' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what
happens/doesn't happen ?

I've tried :
- 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
- 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
- 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
- knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd after
'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
then
Trying bsd
and
stalled-nothing more on the screen.

but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
i tried following
https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notes documentation
too.

security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i don't
think it needs a firmware upgrade.
Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information ?

Thanks for any hints.

Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine) and try
to do the install on it.

Landry

Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

[Landry Breuil]

2007/5/31, Markus Lude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 11:49:45PM +0200, Landry Breuil wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> > methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after
> > 'Trying bsd' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what
> > happens/doesn't happen ?
> >
> > I've tried :
> > - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> > - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> > - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> > - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades
>
> I never had any problems on the blade 100 here with installations from
> cd using the image on the ftp servers. My first version was 3.8, now
> running -current.
>
> Have you tried booting from a cd with cd41.iso from 4.1 or snapshots as
> image?


Yes, that was try 2 and try 3 :)

As advidec by Ted Bullock, i'll try to update the firmware to the latest
version to see if it changes something.. trying to boot the debian etch
netinst stalls too at 'Booting Linux'. I'm pretty sure this machine was
running SunOS before, i don't know if it's related. Maybe trying a firmware
reset too.

Markus, what is the version of the OBP on your blade ? (dev /openprom
.properties says it)

Landry

Re: Matrox G200 Quad supported?

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/4, Timo Schoeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> although I had a bunch of dual-head (or more) setups in my life, it was
> all in the sgi, Sun or Apple universe. I never did this on OpenBSD;
> however, as everything I touched during the years on OpenBSD machines
> ran out of the box :) I wonder whether a dual (or triple screen) setup
> is supported using an old, good Matrox G200 Quad.
>
> Especially, will xenocara help here?


This kind of setup is fully supported by X.org, whether it's with Xenocara
or older 6.9 X.org for previous releases.
Triple-screen worked fine here on i386 with 4.0, 4.1 or current with two
nvidia cards (GF4mx + GF2mx) and an ooold matrox millenium. But iirc,
xinerama is not supported for sparc/sparc64 (lacks support in kernel), dunno
for other archs (ok for amd64 i suppose).

Landry

Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

[Landry Breuil]

2007/5/31, Ted Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I had the same problem until I updated the firmware to 4.17.1

-Ted
>
> Landry Breuil wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> > methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail after
> > 'Trying bsd' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug what
> > happens/doesn't happen ?
> >
> > I've tried :
> > - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> > - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> > - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> > - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
> > bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
> > rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
> > diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd
> after
> > 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
> > OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> :/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
> > then
> > Trying bsd
> > and
> > stalled-nothing more on the screen.
> >
> > but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
> > i tried following
> > https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notesdocumentation
> > too.
> >
> > security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i
> don't
> > think it needs a firmware upgrade.
> > Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information ?
> >
> > Thanks for any hints.
> >
> > Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
> > reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine) and
> try
> > to do the install on it.
> >
> > Landry


Upgrading to 4.17.1 didn't solved the issue here i'm still having the
same problem, kernel hanging just after "Trying bsd", either using
netboot or cdrom and various versions.
I had no problem installing -current on Ultra60, even with a really older
firmware version..

Really annoying. If anyone has a hint to debug this issue..

Landry

Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/7, Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> 2007/5/31, Ted Bullock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > I had the same problem until I updated the firmware to 4.17.1
>
> -Ted
> >
> > Landry Breuil wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > i'm trying to install OpenBSD/Sparc64 on a Blade 100, tried various
> > > methods/versions (all described in INSTALL.sparc64), they all fail
> > after
> > > 'Trying bsd' and stall. Where can i have a start point to debug
> > what
> > > happens/doesn't happen ?
> > >
> > > I've tried :
> > > - 3.9-release Cdrom (original version from wim)
> > > - 4.1-release cd41.iso taken from mirror/4.1
> > > - 4.1-current cd41.iso taken from snapshots
> > > - knowing cd-install are not really good on blades, i tried netbooting
> > > bsd.rd 4.1-release and -current, using another obsd box as
> > > rarpd/tftpd/rpc.bootparamd/nfsd/mountd server, set like described in
> > > diskless(8). The weird thing is that ofwboot.net is taken from tftpd
> > after
> > > 'boot net bsd.rd', ran, i see the first twolines :
> > > OpenBSD 4.1 (obj) #0: -build-date-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > :/usr/src/sys/arch/sparc64/compile/GENERIC
> > > then
> > > Trying bsd
> > > and
> > > stalled-nothing more on the screen.
> > >
> > > but i see no mount requests in mountd -d output.
> > > i tried following
> > > https://www-s.acm.uiuc.edu/wiki/comments/OpenBSD+Sparc64#notesdocumentation
> > > too.
> > >
> > > security-mode is set to none in OBP, and firmware version is 4.0.45, i
> > don't
> > > think it needs a firmware upgrade.
> > > Could it be a hardware problem ? How can i get more debug information
> > ?
> > >
> > > Thanks for any hints.
> > >
> > > Next step will be trying to use a floppy (gee, i have to find a floppy
> >
> > > reader and a disk), or putting the disk in my U10 (which works fine)
> > and try
> > > to do the install on it.
> > >
> > > Landry
>
>
> Upgrading to 4.17.1 didn't solved the issue here i'm still having the
> same problem, kernel hanging just after "Trying bsd", either using
> netboot or cdrom and various versions.
> I had no problem installing -current on Ultra60, even with a really older
> firmware version..
>
> Really annoying. If anyone has a hint to debug this issue..
>

I'm starting to suspect hardware, because even with this OBP upgrade i
didn't manage to start the install of FreeBSD/sparc, NetBSD/sparc64, and
various flavors of Linux/Sparc. All the installers start a kernel, and hangs
at various places in kernel startup. It's not a question of serial console
redirection, because i can ping the host when the boot starts, and it
doesn't respond to pings as soon as it stalls during boot process. (And i
don't have a db25 compatible serial cable..).

Could it be memory ? hard disk ? Box has a 256mb + 512mb , and i don't know
a way to test this memory without os on the box. Smth like memconf
http://myweb.cableone.net/4schmidts/memconf.html or memtest for sparc would
be appreciated.

I'll try maybe

setenv diag-switch? true
setenv diag-level max
reset

but i really have no more ideas to boot this Blade 100.
(and various flavors of openbsd works really well on Ultra 10 and ultra 60
here)
Landry

Re: Problem installing 4.1/sparc64 on Sun Blade 100

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/7, Maxim Belooussov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >
> > I'm starting to suspect hardware, because even with this OBP upgrade i
> > didn't manage to start the install of FreeBSD/sparc, NetBSD/sparc64, and
> > various flavors of Linux/Sparc. All the installers start a kernel, and
> hangs
> > at various places in kernel startup. It's not a question of serial
> console
> > redirection, because i can ping the host when the boot starts, and it
> > doesn't respond to pings as soon as it stalls during boot process. (And
> i
> > don't have a db25 compatible serial cable..).
> >
> > Could it be memory ? hard disk ? Box has a 256mb + 512mb , and i don't
> know
> > a way to test this memory without os on the box. Smth like memconf
> > http://myweb.cableone.net/4schmidts/memconf.html or memtest for sparc
> would
> > be appreciated.
> >
>
> remove one of the ram sticks and try again?
>


Ok, so sorry for all this noise, this was a hw issue. 'set diag-switch?
true' at OBP prompt showed POST errors on DIMM1, I swapped both memory
modules, and POST was happy. In five minutes, box was installed, and now
happily runs -current. I really should learn OBP diagnostic commands.
Definitely, this couldn't be an OpenBSD issue :)
Thanks again to all devs for such a wonderful OS.

Landry

Dmesg for the record : http://gruiik.info/stuff/dmesg.lizzy

Scheduled packages bulk build for i386 ?

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,

Just for the record, i know this is normal as we're tracking -current, but
we can't install/update packages on an installation updated with latests
snapshots (packages are lagging two weeks behind) :
Can't install screen-4.0.3p0: lib not found c.40.3
c.40.3: partial match in /usr/lib: major=41, minor=0 (bad major)
(noticed the nice message from pkg_add ?)

Btw, i'm NOT complaining !! I know i can still install/update through ports
:)

Is there a scheduled packages build ? And last question, is it possible to
use/test FFS2 for root filesystem ? Will it be enabled someday by default in
installer, or even better, having the choice between FFS1/FFS2 ?
I tried a newfs -O2, but mounted partition still shows 'ffs' in mount
output... how can we verify the created partition is _real_ FFS2 ?

Thanks for your work,

Landry

Re: Scheduled packages bulk build for i386 ?

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/10, Otto Moerbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007, Landry Breuil wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just for the record, i know this is normal as we're tracking -current,
> but
> > we can't install/update packages on an installation updated with latests
> > snapshots (packages are lagging two weeks behind) :
> > Can't install screen-4.0.3p0: lib not found c.40.3
> > c.40.3: partial match in /usr/lib: major=41, minor=0 (bad major)
> > (noticed the nice message from pkg_add ?)
> >
> > Btw, i'm NOT complaining !! I know i can still install/update through
> ports
> > :)
> >
> > Is there a scheduled packages build ? And last question, is it possible
> to
> > use/test FFS2 for root filesystem ? Will it be enabled someday by
> default in
> > installer, or even better, having the choice between FFS1/FFS2 ?
> > I tried a newfs -O2, but mounted partition still shows 'ffs' in mount
> > output... how can we verify the created partition is _real_ FFS2 ?
>
> Check dumps output.
>
> FFS2 for a root filesystem won't buy you much. The benefits of FFS2
> only come into play with very large filesystems.
>
> It's a bit too early to use FFS2 for anything but testing. But test
> reports are appreciated.


Yes, that's only for testing purposes, i don't plan to create king-size fs,
only want to see if it works and report eventual breakages.

Thanks for the hint (and for the mirror update !)

Landry

Re: [OFF-TOPIC] MRTG and disk / CPU monitoring

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> * Rivanor P. Soares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-16 15:48]:
> > Does anyone around have an working setup of MRTG, monitoring CPU and
> > disk utilization?
> > I have been digging for it on the internet, to OpenBSD, but was not
> > able to find anything "worth".
>
> save yourself the troube and check out symon in ports.


I second henning on this point, symon is really great. Decentralized,
easy-to-configure, integrates smoothly into OpenBSD, clean code.. perfect
choice.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~wpd/symon

Landry

Re: xfce windows manager

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/25, Nick Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Here are the packages (and their dependencies) that I install
> to get a nice Xfce desktop:
>
> xfce-utils
> xfce4-session
> xfce4-taskbar


This one is deprecated/was included in panel package now in 4.4 :)

xfdesktop
> xfwm4


don't forget xfce4-panel (surely installed as a dependency of one of
these).. and some plugins if you want.

Landry

Re: Rename multiple files at once

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/27, Martin Schrvder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> 2007/6/27, Pieter Verberne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > How do I rename multiple files at once? I want to rename a list of
> > files like:
>
> mmv is in ports.


Or, if you're lazy and use X and all that kind of fancy stuff, you can use
x11/xfce4/thunar, a file-manager with a builtin batch-renamer :
http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/advanced-topics.html#to-bulk-rename-fi
les

Landry

i386 performance degradation since recent snapshots

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,

i'm encountering a real performance problem since a recent update :
- previous snapshots dated around 22 may was working perfectly, launching my
session (xfce) took around 10-15sec. Launching firefox took around 5secs
- updated last week on 20 of june, launching my session takes around 1
minute and a half, launching ffx takes >20sec
- re-updated today (saw recent x*41.tgz sets update), no improvements

I'm using GENERIC recompiled with acpi devices enabled :
option  ACPIVERBOSE
option  ACPI_ENABLE

acpi0   at mainbus?
acpitimer*  at acpi?
acpihpet*   at acpi?
acpiac* at acpi?
acpibat*at acpi?
acpibtn*at acpi?
acpicpu*at acpi?
acpidock*   at acpi?
acpiec* at acpi?
acpiprt*at acpi?
acpitz* at acpi?

(i know, everything != GENERIC is not supported, but acpi still needs
testers..)

Who should i blame ? X ? gtk ? Myself ? I didn't see much changes in the
ports i'm using, and system is generally slower in X. maybe acpi regression
?
The only notable change i see in dmesg is the addition of CPU states
(acpicpu0 at acpi0 C3, C3, C2, C1, FVS)

Attached two (lengthy..) dmesg, one from my previous kernel which worked,
and one from -current of today.

Thanks for any hints

Landry


May 25 17:05:20 begbie syslogd: start
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: OpenBSD 4.1-current (GENERIC) #1: Fri May 25
11:53:04 CEST 2007
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor
2.00GHz("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 2 GHz
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: cpu0:
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,TM,SBF,EST,TM2
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: real mem  = 2138472448 (2039MB)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: avail mem = 1945001984 (1854MB)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: using 4278 buffers containing 107048960 bytes
(104540K) of memory
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: mainbus0 (root)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/28/05,
BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xffe90, SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf7810 (60 entries)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: bios0: Dell Inc. Latitude D410
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x1
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @
0xfb2d0/176 (9 entries)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0
("Intel 82371 ISA and IDE" rev 0x00)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: pcibios0: PCI bus #3 is the last bus
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xf800! 0xcf800/0x800
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi0 at mainbus0: rev 0
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC ASF! MCFG SSDT
SSDT SSDT
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi device at acpi0 from table DSDT not
configured
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi device at acpi0 from table FACP not
configured
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi device at acpi0 from table APIC not
configured
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi device at acpi0 from table ASF! not
configured
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi device at acpi0 from table MCFG not
configured
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpi device at acpi0 from table SSDT not
configured
May 25 17:05:20 begbie last message repeated 2 times
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (PCIE)
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpicpu0 at acpi0: CPU0: 2000, 1600, 1333,
1067, 800 MHz
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpicpu1 at acpi0: CPU1:
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpitz0 at acpi0, critical temperature: 100
degC
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit offline
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0: model: DELL U58676
serial: 20326 type: LION oem: Sony
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1: not present
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
May 25 17:05:20 begbie /bsd: acpibtn1 at acpi0: PBTN
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: acpibtn2 at acpi0: SBTN
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: acpidock0 at acpi0: GDCK: not docked (0)
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: cpu0 at mainbus0
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
(no bios)
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel
82915GM/PM/GMS Host" rev 0x03
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 "Intel
82915GM/GMS Video" rev 0x03: aperture at 0xdff0, size 0x1000
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100
emulation)
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100
emulation)
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: "Intel 82915GM/GMS Video" rev 0x03 at pci0 dev
2 function 1 not configured
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 "Intel 82801FB
PCIE" rev 0x03
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
May 25 17:05:21 begbie /bsd: bge0 at

Re: i386 performance degradation since recent snapshots

[Landry Breuil]

2007/6/28, Brian Candler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > i'm encountering a real performance problem since a recent update :
> > - previous snapshots dated around 22 may was working perfectly,
> launching my
> > session (xfce) took around 10-15sec. Launching firefox took around 5secs
> > - updated last week on 20 of june, launching my session takes around 1
> > minute and a half, launching ffx takes >20sec
>
> Just a thought:
>
> - what does 'hostname' show?


it immediately shows my correct hostname with fqnd

- do you have an entry in /etc/hosts which maps this name to your correct
>   IP address?


Yes, and also resolving localhost

I've seen long delays in X startup if the system hostname can't be resolved
> to an IP address (which can be very annoying in dynamic IP environments,
> or
> where DHCP changes the hostname). But this experience is with non-OpenBSD
> boxes; I only use command line on OpenBSD.
>
> Also:
>
> - is your DNS working properly? (e.g. "nslookup www.openbsd.org" gives you
>   a positive answer in a reasonably short period of time, and
>   "nslookup xyz" gives you an NXDOMAIN answer also in a reasonably short
>   period of time)


Immediate answer.. in fact, my network configuration didn't change, so it
can't be this...

Maybe related to http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=11837716454&w=2,
i'll try to perform disk i/o tests.. but i'm really stuck with this issue.
Performance is really bad. I'll try too with acpi disabled.

Thanks for any hint,

Landry

Re: i386 performance degradation since recent snapshots

[Landry Breuil]

2007/7/3, Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> 2007/6/28, Brian Candler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > i'm encountering a real performance problem since a recent update :
> > > - previous snapshots dated around 22 may was working perfectly,
> > launching my
> > > session (xfce) took around 10-15sec. Launching firefox took around
> > 5secs
> > > - updated last week on 20 of june, launching my session takes around 1
> > > minute and a half, launching ffx takes >20sec
> >
> > Just a thought:
> >
> > - what does 'hostname' show?
>
>
> it immediately shows my correct hostname with fqnd
>
> - do you have an entry in /etc/hosts which maps this name to your correct
> >   IP address?
>
>
> Yes, and also resolving localhost
>
> I've seen long delays in X startup if the system hostname can't be
> > resolved
> > to an IP address (which can be very annoying in dynamic IP environments,
> > or
> > where DHCP changes the hostname). But this experience is with
> > non-OpenBSD
> > boxes; I only use command line on OpenBSD.
> >
> > Also:
> >
> > - is your DNS working properly? (e.g. "nslookup www.openbsd.org" gives
> > you
> >   a positive answer in a reasonably short period of time, and
> >   "nslookup xyz" gives you an NXDOMAIN answer also in a reasonably short
> >
> >   period of time)
>
>
> Immediate answer.. in fact, my network configuration didn't change, so it
> can't be this...
>
> Maybe related to http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=11837716454&w=2,
> i'll try to perform disk i/o tests.. but i'm really stuck with this issue.
> Performance is really bad. I'll try too with acpi disabled.
>
> Thanks for any hint,
>

More information on this... i have the feeling that  it's a preloading
problem.. if i launch an app for the first time, it takes ages, but if i
relaunch it, it's nearly immediate. It happens with pure X apps and with gtk
apps. Something changed in preloading area or ld.so ? I have to admit that i
didn't update /etc at each upgrade, may this be a cause ? I didn't ran
ldconfig -P, as i saw this wasn't recommended..

I noticed another weird problem, which _may_ be related : sometimes, ls
doesn't show the full list of files in a directory, and the whole list on
the next run (either on ffs or ext2 partition). But disk led is not
flashing.

Output of atactl :
Model: FUJITSU MHV2080AH, Rev: 00A0, Serial #: NT9AT6429CH5
Device type: ATA, fixed
Cylinders: 16383, heads: 16, sec/track: 63, total sectors: 156301488
Device capabilities:
ATA standby timer values
IORDY operation
Device supports the following standards:
ATA-2 ATA-3 ATA-4 ATA-5 ATA-6 ATA-7
Master password revision code 0xfffe
Device supports the following command sets:
READ BUFFER command
WRITE BUFFER command
Host Protected Area feature set
Read look-ahead
Write cache
Power Management feature set
Security Mode feature set
SMART feature set
Flush Cache command
Device Configuration Overlay feature set
Automatic Acoustic Management feature set
Set Max security extension commands
Power-up in standby feature set
Advanced Power Management feature set
DOWNLOAD MICROCODE command
IDLE IMMEDIATE with UNLOAD FEATURE
SMART self-test
SMART error logging
Device has enabled the following command sets/features:
READ BUFFER command
WRITE BUFFER command
Host Protected Area feature set
Read look-ahead
Write cache
Power Management feature set
SMART feature set
Flush Cache command
Device Configuration Overlay feature set
Automatic Acoustic Management feature set
Advanced Power Management feature set
DOWNLOAD MICROCODE command

Thanks again for any help,

Landry

Re: Secure Network File System - Or Lack Thereof

[Landry Breuil]

2007/7/14, Edd Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 14/07/07, Markus Lude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Whats your problem with AFS?
>
> It's not in base.


man -k afs seems to say that AFS is in base, using ARLA implementation. (and
OpenAFS is in ports)

Landry

ACPI regression on i386 ?

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,

i've been happily testing acpi following -current since six or seven months,
and i've noticed a little regressions :
- before June, it worked perfectly, halt -p power-offs the machine, i have
acpi detected in dmesg.
- after around start of June, halt -p doesn't poweroff the machine anymore,
and i don't have anymore acpi detected in dmesg. But when i config -e /bsd
and try to enable acpi, it says that acpi is already enabled.
- i've retried several times, still no luck since June.

may it be a local fuckup ? (Sorry, i don't exactly remember the date when it
stopped working)
What can i do to debug this ?

I always uncomment (and remove two disable) all acpi lines in GENERIC :

option  ACPIVERBOSE
option  ACPI_ENABLE

acpi0   at mainbus?
acpitimer*  at acpi?
acpihpet*   at acpi?
acpiac* at acpi?
acpibat*at acpi?
acpibtn*at acpi?
acpicpu*at acpi?
acpidock*   at acpi?
acpiec* at acpi?
acpiprt*at acpi?
acpitz* at acpi?

Is there something else to do somewhere ?

Dmesg : http://gruiik.info/stuff/tmp/dmesg
Acpidump : http://gruiik.info/stuff/tmp/acpidump

(i have to note that it works perfectly on a dell D410)

Thanks,

Landry

Re: ACPI regression on i386 ?

[Landry Breuil]

On 7/18/07, Devin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> i've been happily testing acpi following -current since six or seven
> months,
> and i've noticed a little regressions :
> - before June, it worked perfectly, halt -p power-offs the machine, i have
> acpi detected in dmesg.
> - after around start of June, halt -p doesn't poweroff the machine
> anymore,
> and i don't have anymore acpi detected in dmesg. But when i config -e /bsd
> and try to enable acpi, it says that acpi is already enabled.
> - i've retried several times, still no luck since June.
>
> may it be a local fuckup ? (Sorry, i don't exactly remember the date when
> it
> stopped working)
> What can i do to debug this ?
>
> I always uncomment (and remove two disable) all acpi lines in GENERIC :
>
> option  ACPIVERBOSE
> option  ACPI_ENABLE
>
> acpi0   at mainbus?
> acpitimer*  at acpi?
> acpihpet*   at acpi?
> acpiac* at acpi?
> acpibat*at acpi?
> acpibtn*at acpi?
> acpicpu*at acpi?
> acpidock*   at acpi?
> acpiec* at acpi?
> acpiprt*at acpi?
> acpitz* at acpi?
>
> Is there something else to do somewhere ?
>
> Dmesg : http://gruiik.info/stuff/tmp/dmesg
> Acpidump : http://gruiik.info/stuff/tmp/acpidump
>
> (i have to note that it works perfectly on a dell D410)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Landry
>
>

This is possibly due to the checkin on May 29th in
sys/arch/i386/i386/acpi_machdep.c.

The commit message says:

Add global variable apm_attached, machine dependant probe routine for ACPI
will check this flag durring probe, meaning that if the machine has APM
ACPI will not attach. This should remove one obstacle on the road to
enabling ACPI by default.

ok marco, dreaadt, art, krw, art

Do you get any error message from halt -p? I can only guess that your
APM implementation is some how broken. Sorry that isn't much help.



Yes, in fact upon halt -p, i get error messages like : 'apm :
unrecognized device ID (9)'
I'll try to disable apm in config -e, hope it'll work.
Thanks a lot for orienting me on this way, i didn't even think of it.

Landry

Re: ACPI regression on i386 ?

[Landry Breuil]

On 7/19/07, Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 7/18/07, Devin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > i've been happily testing acpi following -current since six or seven
> > months,
> > and i've noticed a little regressions :
> > - before June, it worked perfectly, halt -p power-offs the machine, i have
> > acpi detected in dmesg.
> > - after around start of June, halt -p doesn't poweroff the machine
> > anymore,
> > and i don't have anymore acpi detected in dmesg. But when i config -e /bsd
> > and try to enable acpi, it says that acpi is already enabled.
> > - i've retried several times, still no luck since June.
> >
> > may it be a local fuckup ? (Sorry, i don't exactly remember the date when
> > it
> > stopped working)
> > What can i do to debug this ?
> >
> > I always uncomment (and remove two disable) all acpi lines in GENERIC :
> >
> > option  ACPIVERBOSE
> > option  ACPI_ENABLE
> >
> > acpi0   at mainbus?
> > acpitimer*  at acpi?
> > acpihpet*   at acpi?
> > acpiac* at acpi?
> > acpibat*at acpi?
> > acpibtn*at acpi?
> > acpicpu*at acpi?
> > acpidock*   at acpi?
> > acpiec* at acpi?
> > acpiprt*at acpi?
> > acpitz* at acpi?
> >
> > Is there something else to do somewhere ?
> >
> > Dmesg : http://gruiik.info/stuff/tmp/dmesg
> > Acpidump : http://gruiik.info/stuff/tmp/acpidump
> >
> > (i have to note that it works perfectly on a dell D410)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Landry
> >
> >
>
> This is possibly due to the checkin on May 29th in
> sys/arch/i386/i386/acpi_machdep.c.
>
> The commit message says:
>
> Add global variable apm_attached, machine dependant probe routine for ACPI
> will check this flag durring probe, meaning that if the machine has APM
> ACPI will not attach. This should remove one obstacle on the road to
> enabling ACPI by default.
>
> ok marco, dreaadt, art, krw, art
>
> Do you get any error message from halt -p? I can only guess that your
> APM implementation is some how broken. Sorry that isn't much help.


Yes, in fact upon halt -p, i get error messages like : 'apm :
unrecognized device ID (9)'
I'll try to disable apm in config -e, hope it'll work.
Thanks a lot for orienting me on this way, i didn't even think of it.


You were right, now it works perfectly. Thanks again.

Landry

Re: famd, gnome and xfce4

[Landry Breuil]

On 8/9/07, Markus Bergkvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I can't get the file browser in gnome to update automatically when a  file
> is e.g. created or removed if I start famd with
>
> sgi_fam/1-2 stream  rpc/tcp waitroot/usr/local/sbin/famd famd
>
> in  /etc/inetd.conf
> But if I start famd with
>
> if [ -x /usr/local/sbin/famd ]; then
>  /usr/local/sbin/famd -T 0
> fi
>
> in /etc/rc.local it works all fine. The xfce4 file manager doesn't react no
> matter how I start famd. Is this working as expected, or what might I have
> done wrong?

For Thunar, iirc it has to be linked against FAM libs to have file
system monitoring capacities (cf
http://svn.xfce.org/svn/xfce/thunar/trunk/acinclude.m4), and the port
wasn't built by default against it.
But i admit this could be added as a LIB_DEPENDS, as it's a useful and
cheap feature. I'll try to test it after ports-tree unlock.

Landry (maintainer)

Re: Ports changes web page is badly out of date

[Landry Breuil]

On 9/9/07, Jasper Lievisse Adriaanse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 09, 2007 at 03:29:56PM -0400, Peter Fraser wrote:
> > http://www.openbsd.org/portsplus/index.html
> >
> > which is referenced by
> >
> > http://www.openbsd.org/plus42.html
> yeah, perhaps someone feels like start keeping portsplus up to date
> from now on? please contact me if so.

http://ports.openbsd.nu/ homepage would be a good start point to
collect information, or creating an automatic system parsing
ports-changes@ messages.. but OpenBSD website is fully static, so page
would have to be manually updated.

Landry

Re: Tackilng multiple versions of autoconf

[Landry Breuil]

Hi,

To be more reasonable (i suppose most ports using autotools in tree
won't change their build scheme before earth blows itself, maybe
because of autotools), i'd like to add my tiny-little p.o.v to this
discussion :

When upgrading a port, it costs little time to check that newest
version still needs a particular  AUTO*_VERSION, and remove the option
if ports compiles with 'normal-latest' autotools version. But digging
through whole tree to test each port would be a real waste of time.

Landry


On 10/16/07, Marc Espie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:50:52AM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:52:27AM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> > > On 2007/10/16 16:10, Amarendra Godbole wrote:
> > > > A peculiar thing I noticed with many ports is they need different
> versions of
> > > > autoconf installed (set through the AUTOCONF_VERSION variable) - so in
> the
> > > > end, my system has 3 versions after a couple of port builds (2.13,
> 2.59, and
> > > > 2.61).
> > >
> > > This isn't a problem.
> >
> > The OP seems to think it is or he (she?) wouldn't waste his time
> > emailing the list or making an offer to a considerable amount of work to
> > fix it.  Rather than just dissing him, why not enlighten us as to why
> > its not a problem?
> >
> > Perhaps address the statement "... they _NEED_ different versions of
> > autoconf installed...".
> >
> > Doug.
>
> Fixing this is a waste of time.
>
> Autoconf itself is an issue. Actually a lot of engineering issues.
> Using it in the first place is a mistake.
>
> If you prefer, it's up to external projects to fix up their shit.
>
> KDE has stopped using the GNU auto* dreck, and I'm very happy for their
> switch to cmake.
>
> It's already enough of a headache to work around autoconf issues. Unifying
> them ? nope, not a chance.
>
> We have loads of better things to do.
>
> From a practical point of view, each autoconf version is very small, and
> compiles/installs in just a fraction of the time it would take to `fix'
> ports to use a common autoconf.

CVSync web page

[Landry Breuil]

hi,

i've just set up a little CVSync mirror, and following cvsync.html, i
stumble on the "cvs [checkout aborted]: /cvs/CVSROOT: No such file or
directory" issue when trying to checkout from my fresh mirror.

Maybe it is worth saying on the page that cvs repository has to be
init'ed with 'cvs -d /cvs init' before being usable for checkouts...
or maybe i'm wrong somewhere.

Landry 

Re: CVSync web page

[Landry Breuil]

On 10/17/07, Christian Weisgerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > i've just set up a little CVSync mirror, and following cvsync.html, i
> > stumble on the "cvs [checkout aborted]: /cvs/CVSROOT: No such file or
> > directory" issue when trying to checkout from my fresh mirror.
>
> Why doesn't your mirror have CVSROOT?  You're missing part of the
> repository.

Maybe upstream is missing something.. i'm cc'ing maintainer in case
he's not subscribed to misc.
i just launched 'cvsync
cvsync://mirror.osn.de/openbsd-ports/rcs/?prefix=/cvs', and tried with
a full config file too, as explained on the page..

>
> > Maybe it is worth saying on the page that cvs repository has to be
> > init'ed with 'cvs -d /cvs init' before being usable for checkouts...
>
> Certainly not.

Ok, so my 'workaround' wasn't correct .. i suppose my cvsync copy is
broken now ?

Landry

Re: CVSync web page

[Landry Breuil]

On 10/17/07, Christian Weisgerber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Landry Breuil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Why doesn't your mirror have CVSROOT?  You're missing part of the
> > > repository.
> >
> > Maybe upstream is missing something.. i'm cc'ing maintainer in case
> > he's not subscribed to misc.
>
> Sure looks complete at the collection level.
>
> $ cvsync cvsync://mirror.osn.de/
> Connecting to mirror.osn.de port 
> Connected to 194.45.27.107 port 
> Running...
>  Name: openbsd, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD CVS Repository
>  Name: openbsd-cvsroot, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD CVSROOT
>  Name: openbsd-ports, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD Ports
>  Name: openbsd-src, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD Source
>  Name: openbsd-www, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD WWW
>  Name: openbsd-x11, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD X11
>  Name: openbsd-xf4, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD XF4
>  Name: openbsd-xenocara, Release: rcs
>   Comment: OpenBSD xenocara
> Finished successfully
>
> > i just launched 'cvsync
> > cvsync://mirror.osn.de/openbsd-ports/rcs/?prefix=/cvs', and tried with
> > a full config file too, as explained on the page..
>
> With that URL you only fetch the ports collection.
>
> The top level of the repository looks like this:
>
> CVSROOT
> X11
> XF4
> ports
> src
> www
> xenocara
>
> If you skip some parts, you still need CVSROOT (corresponding to
> the openbsd-cvsroot collection above) for CVS operations.
>
> Of course, when you said "mirror" I assumed you wanted to get the
> whole thing.
>
> > Ok, so my 'workaround' wasn't correct .. i suppose my cvsync copy is
> > broken now ?
>
> Just delete the CVSROOT directory you created.

Okay, thanks naddy, armin and charles, now i fully understand how
cvsync works :)

Landry

NFS exporting /usr/ports and -maproot=root

[Landry Breuil]

Hi,

i'm struggling to make my ports-tree usable on all my machines, it
seems that in my configuration -maproot=root in /etc/exports doesn't
work:

on the server (4.1 stable), /etc/exports contains :
/usr/ports -maproot=root client
perms : drwxrwxr-x  47 root  wsrc  1024 Oct 18 19:40 /usr/ports

on the client (-current), /etc/fstab contains :
server:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs rw,nosuid 0 0
perms : drwxrwxr-x  47 root  wsrc  1024 Oct 18 19:40 /usr/ports

Nfs mount works fine, showmount -a is fine (i have client:/usr/ports
line), as a normal user (i'm in wsrc group) i can create files in
remote ports-tree, but as root it seems impossible, either using sudo
touch, sudo -u root touch or su - then touch, i'm always getting
touch: /usr/ports/test: Permission denied
As ports-tree uses extensively sudo, i'm kinda blocked..

I ran tcpdump on both, and i get this error :
 19:36:40.443005 server.nfsd > client.816: xid 0x944ace5 reply ok 60
create ERROR: Permission denied

I tried with -maproot=0, -maproot=0:0 with no luck. I know this works
for many people, so what have i missed here ? btw, i restarted
portmap/nfsd/mountd, and mountd -d doesn't give errors..

Thanks for any help,

Landry

Re: NFS exporting /usr/ports and -maproot=root

[Landry Breuil]

On 10/18/07, Dorian B|ttner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Landry Breuil schrieb:
> > Hi,
> >
> > i'm struggling to make my ports-tree usable on all my machines, it
> > seems that in my configuration -maproot=root in /etc/exports doesn't
> > work:
> >
> > on the server (4.1 stable), /etc/exports contains :
> > /usr/ports -maproot=root client
> > perms : drwxrwxr-x  47 root  wsrc  1024 Oct 18 19:40 /usr/ports
> >
> > on the client (-current), /etc/fstab contains :
> > server:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs rw,nosuid 0 0
> > perms : drwxrwxr-x  47 root  wsrc  1024 Oct 18 19:40 /usr/ports
> >
> > Nfs mount works fine, showmount -a is fine (i have client:/usr/ports
> > line), as a normal user (i'm in wsrc group) i can create files in
> > remote ports-tree, but as root it seems impossible, either using sudo
> > touch, sudo -u root touch or su - then touch, i'm always getting
> > touch: /usr/ports/test: Permission denied
> > As ports-tree uses extensively sudo, i'm kinda blocked..
> >
> > I ran tcpdump on both, and i get this error :
> >  19:36:40.443005 server.nfsd > client.816: xid 0x944ace5 reply ok 60
> > create ERROR: Permission denied
> >
> > I tried with -maproot=0, -maproot=0:0 with no luck. I know this works
> > for many people, so what have i missed here ? btw, i restarted
> > portmap/nfsd/mountd, and mountd -d doesn't give errors..
> >
> > Thanks for any help,
> >
> > Landry
> >
> What if you share a directory on the server from a partition that has
> the nosuid flag set in fstab?
> /dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1
> /dev/wd0f /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
> /dev/wd0e /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2
> /dev/wd0g /var ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
> /dev/wd0d /tmp ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
>
>
(oops, forgot to cc:list)
hi,

/usr/ports is not a separate partition, i only have / on this box
(on a 13gb disk..).. so i can't test this option.
/dev/wd0a / ffs rw 1 1
May nosuid be relative to my issue ?

Landry

Re: NFS exporting /usr/ports and -maproot=root

[Landry Breuil]

On 10/19/07, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Replying to myself,
>
> > Again: set WRKOBJDIR on the client side and you don't need
> > to be writing in the remotely mounted tree at all.
>
> the following is nonsense, of course:
>
> > Another advantage of that is that when you build some port that requires
> > e.g. the X11 to be installed, you only need it installed on the machine
> > that performs the port build, that is, the (one) client that actually
> > needs it.
>
> - the stuff needed for a proper port build either is or is not
> present on the machine that makes the build, *regardless* of which
> /usr/ports the machine uses.
>
I'm already setting WRKOBJDIR outside nfs-dir, the problem is more for
/usr/ports/packages .. i'd like it to be shared too, to install the
same package on various sparc64 for example. And this dir needs to be
root-writable, as it uses sudo..

I'd put it outside nfs if i don't find a solution, but btw i'm more
interested in understanding why -maproot=root doesn't work in my case
:)

And concerning http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun, all my boxes
are running -current, only the server is running stable and i don't
build anything on it (way too slow to compile)

Anyone, idea for my maproot problem ?
Landry

Re: NFS exporting /usr/ports and -maproot=root

[Landry Breuil]

On 10/19/07, Jan Stary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Again: set WRKOBJDIR on the client side and you don't need
> > > > to be writing in the remotely mounted tree at all.
>
> > I'm already setting WRKOBJDIR outside nfs-dir, the problem is more for
> > /usr/ports/packages .. i'd like it to be shared too, to install the
> > same package on various sparc64 for example. And this dir needs to be
> > root-writable, as it uses sudo..
>
> You also need to set DISTDIR and PKGREPOSITORYBASE
> - see examples in the FAQ.

I now several workarounds and tweaks like this exists :) I just want
to understand why this setup doesn't work.

> > I'd put it outside nfs if i don't find a solution, but btw i'm more
> > interested in understanding why -maproot=root doesn't work in my case
>
> Send your complete server:/etc/exports, client:/etc/fstab,
> verbose log of server:mountd, server:nfsd, and a full (-s 65000) tcpdump
> of the communication.

server is spud, client for tests is renton (10.246.200.10).
server:/etc/exports:
/nfsroot/net_sparc64 -ro allison
/nfsroot/open_sparc64 -ro swanney
/usr/ports -maproot=0:0 renton swanney lizzy

client fstab:
spud:/usr/ports /usr/ports nfs rw,nosuid 0 0

mountd -d output:
Got line /nfsroot/net_sparc64 -ro allison
Making new ep fs=0x0,0xfc214a5e
doing opt -ro allison
got host allison
exporting /nfsroot/net_sparc64
Got line /nfsroot/open_sparc64 -ro swanney
Found ep fs=0x0,0xfc214a5e
doing opt -ro swanney
got host swanney.fr.homeunix.org
exporting /nfsroot/open_sparc64
Got line /usr/ports -maproot=0:0 renton swanney lizzy
Found ep fs=0x0,0xfc214a5e
doing opt -maproot=0:0 renton swanney lizzy
got host renton.fr.homeunix.org
got host swanney.fr.homeunix.org
got host lizzy.fr.homeunix.org
exporting /usr/ports
exporting /usr/ports
exporting /usr/ports
unexporting / /
Getting mount list.
Here we go.
Got mount request from 10.246.200.10
rpcpath: /usr/ports
Mount successful for /usr/ports by 10.246.200.10.

(here i've ran sudo mount /usr/ports on the client)

renton:~/ $ls -ld /usr/ports
drwxrwxr-x  47 root  wsrc  1024 Oct 19 19:12 /usr/ports (same on
client and server)
renton:~/ $id
uid=1000(landry) gid=1000(landry) groups=1000(landry), 0(wheel), 9(wsrc)
renton:~/ $touch /usr/ports/test
renton:~/

Here i have tcpdump output (same for server and client) for this
sucessful file creation :
19:56:29.030254 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb06905b (NFSv3) 112
lookup fh 33,252/664798720 "test"
19:56:29.030771 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb06905b reply ok 116
lookup ERROR: No such file or directory
19:56:29.030843 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069116 (NFSv3) 112
lookup fh 33,252/664798720 "test"
19:56:29.031099 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb069116 reply ok 116
lookup ERROR: No such file or directory
19:56:29.031131 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069170 (NFSv3) 144
create fh 33,252/664798720 "test"
19:56:29.033013 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb069170 reply ok 268
create fh 33,252/3064333824
19:56:29.033097 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069202 (NFSv3) 104
getattr fh 33,252/3064333824
19:56:29.033363 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb069202 reply ok 112
getattr REG 644 ids 1000/9 sz 0x0

Now i try to update attrs, it fails :
renton:~/ $sudo touch /usr/ports/test
touch: /usr/ports/test: Permission denied

19:57:52.066602 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb0692d4 (NFSv3) 128
lookup fh 33,252/664798720 "test"
19:57:52.067288 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb0692d4 reply ok 236
lookup fh 33,252/3064333824
19:57:52.067380 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069303 (NFSv3) 124
access fh 33,252/664798720 0002
19:57:52.067688 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb069303 reply ok 120
access c 0002
19:57:52.067725 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb0693f4 (NFSv3) 148
setattr fh 33,252/3064333824
19:57:52.068015 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb0693f4 reply ok 144
setattr ERROR: Permission denied
19:57:52.068051 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb06947e (NFSv3) 124
access fh 33,252/664798720 0002
19:57:52.068299 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb06947e reply ok 120
access c 0002
19:57:52.068326 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb06952e (NFSv3) 148
setattr fh 33,252/3064333824
19:57:52.068605 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb06952e reply ok 144
setattr ERROR: Permission denied

Now i try to create another file, it fails :
renton:~/ $sudo touch /usr/ports/test2
touch: /usr/ports/test2: Permission denied

19:58:24.546477 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb0695bf (NFSv3) 132
lookup fh 33,252/664798720 "test2"
19:58:24.547033 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb0695bf reply ok 116
lookup ERROR: No such file or directory
19:58:24.547166 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb06960d (NFSv3) 132
lookup fh 33,252/664798720 "test2"
19:58:24.547430 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb06960d reply ok 116
lookup ERROR: No such file or directory
19:58:24.547475 renton.695 > spud.nfsd: xid 0xbb069643 (NFSv3) 164
create fh 33,252/664798720 "test2"
19:58:24.54 spud.nfsd > renton.695: xid 0xbb069643 reply ok 60
create ERROR: Permission denied

(btw, as root on s

A new OpenBSD mirror in France

[Landry Breuil]

Hello list !

I've set up a new ftp mirror for OpenBSD, located physically in
Rennes / West of France, on the RENATER Network (National Research &
Teaching Network, maybe one of the biggest bandwidth in the country)

It is available at ftp://ftp.irisa.fr/pub/OpenBSD/ , and works well..
i've tested if for several installations.

(README)
- updated nightly (cvs from anoncvs.de.openbsd.org, snapshots from
ftp.scarlet.be)
- 3.8/  3.9/  doc/  OpenBGPD/  OpenNTPD/  OpenSSH/  patches/
snapshots/  and src/ are mirrored
- Available bandwidth : approx ~100Mb upload
- passive ftp only
- reachable using IPv4 and IPv6
- Maintainer contact : landry -dot- breuil -at- irisa -dot- fr

Feel free to use it :)

Landry Breuil
Expert Engineer, IRISA/INRIA

Howto get DRI working on OpenBSD ?

[Landry Breuil]

Hello,
I'm using 4.0-beta from snapshots on my Dell Latitude D410, and apart from
apm not really working properly (no apm/acpi detected on boot, no sensors,
no suspend/halt -p, but SpeedStep works), i'm really pleased of
OpenBSD.

Graphics chipset is a I915GM, and works fine with i810 blob-free X.org
driver, hardware acceleration is done by XAA. OpenGL works through MESA
indirect implementation.

Now i'm trying to get DRI working on this laptop, to use shiny features
like composite and so on. It's not a vital need, just a personnal
challenge :)

>From what i understood, DRI is not available by default in OpenBSD, there
is no libdri* in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/ .

First, is it possible to get DRI features on OpenBSD ? I know some things
are hardened, like sysctl machdep.aperture and privsep'ed X daemon,
whereas DRI needs special permissions to get direct access to the
hardware.

If so, what is the simplest way to do it ?
- get OpenBSD's cvs tree of X, tweak some makefiles (which ones ?) and
recompile it, or only a part ?
I know DRI drivers are available :
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/XF4/xc/lib/GL/mesa/drivers/dri/
- follow this documentation : http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building ?
There is a section for FreeBSD...
- is DRM kernel module needed ? Is the one from FreeBSD likely to
work/compile with OpenBSD ?
There is some (outdated) documentation about this here :
http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/
- is someone from OpenBSD team already working on this topic ?

I've googled ml archives, and didn't found any relevant information.
So if anyone has a hint/comment on my thoughs/pointer to some ml
post/documentation, i'd be really interested.

I'm attaching the result of glxinfo, dmesg.boot, xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log
to provide as much information as possible.

Thanks for you time reading this,
Landry

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Re: Howto get DRI working on OpenBSD ?

[Landry Breuil]

Damien Miller a icrit :
| On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Landry Breuil wrote:
| 
| > Now i'm trying to get DRI working on this laptop, to use shiny features
| > like composite and so on. It's not a vital need, just a personnal
| > challenge :)
| 
| You will need to (at least) port the DRM kernel support to OpenBSD.
| tedu@ made a start a little while ago, and it is certainly more work
| than tweaking makefiles.

I was afraid this was required... it's certainly something i can't personally 
do :(
Do you have any pointers to tedu's works ? cvs commits, webpage ?
Reading freebsd's implementation is a good start point ?

More generally, did someone manage to get Composite working fine on OpenBSD, 
with i810 accelerated by XAA ?

Thanks,
Landry

Re: Problem with Matrox MGA G450

[Landry Breuil]

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Guillermo Bernaldo de Quiros Maraver
Pedroche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys, i have added one Matrox G450 in OpenBSD,
> and have enabled mgadrm in the GENERIC file, i build
> and install, and, when try to launch X, get the next
> error:

if you were really following -current development and oga@'s work,
you'll know that currently only inteldrm and radeondrm works.

Landry

Re: Weird pkg_info behavior?

[Landry Breuil]

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Slim Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2008/10/1, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 2008-10-01, Nick Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> If you are looking for package descriptions, install the ports tree
>>> and read the Makefiles.
>
> A lynx dump of http://www.openbsd.org/4.3_packages/i386.html
> seems more handy.
>
>> For 4.4/-current, landry@ has written a curses-based package browser,
>> pkg_mgr. It's in the ports tree and of course a package is available,
>> "pkg_add pkg_mgr".
>
> That's something to wait for then. From what I read it references
> openports.se.

It has nothing to do with openports.se, it uses databases/sqlports as
its backend.

Landry

Re: Sun Fire X4100M2 and ILOM serial console

[Landry Breuil]

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 3:09 AM, Albert Chin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyone with an X4100M2 have the serial console working for logins? I
> have OpenBSD-current running and the BIOS remote access console
> configured as follows:
>  * Remote Access  [Enabled]*
>  * *
>  * Serial port number [COM1]   *
>  *  Base Address, IRQ [3F8h, 4]*
>  * Serial Port Mode   [09600 8,n,1]*
>  * Flow Control   [None]   *
>  * Redirection After BIOS POST[Always] *

Disable this one. This helped me on a v20z, i got the full boot log on
the serial processor.

Landry

Re: NFS and -maproot in OpenBSD 4.3

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On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 5:12 PM, David Vuorio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>   $ ls -al
>>   total 8
>>   drwxr-xr-x   2 root  wheel  512 Jul  1 14:52 .
>>   drwxr-xr-x  15 root  wheel  512 May 21 13:20 ..
>>   -rw-rw-rw-   1 root  wheel0 Jul  1 14:55 bar
>>   -rw---   1 root  wheel0 Jul  1 14:52 foo
>>   -rw-rw   1 root  wheel0 Jul  1 14:52 foobar
>>   $ touch bar
>>   $ touch foo
>>   touch: foo: Permission denied
>>   $ touch foobar
>>   touch: foobar: Permission denied
>>   $ less foobar
>>   foobar: Permission denied
>
> Sorry for spamming, but I just realised an interesting thing.
>
> If I try (from the client) to access the files on the server, and I use my
> regular account, then my membership of the wheel allows me to access two
> of the files above. However, if I become root I can only access the
> world-readable file, even if I use -maproot=root or -mapall=root .
>
> Also, root is part of the wheel group on both the server and the client.

I've been recently bitten by this one and felt stupid for not having
enough rtfm'ed. You have to export the root of the filesystem. (and
eventually use -alldirs if you want to mount only /test.)

Landry

Re: 'Nother broken package - git-1.5.4.2

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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 9:08 PM, L. V. Lammert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That doesn't fix the main problem, however, .. a version control package
> should NOT be in packages as an X flavor.
>
> It was mentioned earlier that there is a non-X version in ports - why
> don't the maintainers FIX the problem and make that the package instead of
> all this bitching about why people compain about broken packages?

You've been told that git had a -x11 subpackage since april in -current, now can
you please stop your incessant pointless whining ? Can you at least do your own
homework and learn how things work in OpenBSD ?

Landry

Re: aucat(1) mixing streams from different users

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On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Alexandre Ratchov  wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 02:45:03PM +0200, Jona Joachim wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:01:26AM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote:
>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 02:21:25PM +, Jona Joachim wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > The simpler -- and most natural imho -- would be configure mpd to use
>> > > > unix domain sockets (instead of TCP) and to run it as your user id
>> > > > instead of _mpd.
>> > > >
>> > > > If you can't, you can cheat by copying mpd's ~/.aucat_cookie in your
>> > > > home directory (it must have mode 0600) this way aucat will consider
>> > > > _mpd and you are the same person. After all, I guess you run _mpd for
>> > > > you ;)
>> > >
>> > > I see, this is the new authentication mechanism kicking in :) Thanks
>> > > for the explanation, now that I know what's causing it, it's easy to
>> > > fix.
>> >
>> > Too bad if this works, because nobody will fix mpd to use unix domain
>> > sockets by default ;-)
>>
>> Well, just running mpd as my user id fixes the problem, no need for unix
>> domain sockets. I usually try to run daemons that don't need to be
>> reached from outside on unix domain sockets, however with mpd the
>> problem is that not all clients support them.
>
> unfortunately this means that other local users would be able to
> interact with your instance of mpd, which would be a regression.

If you're _that_ concerned about mpd privacy, it supports passwd
authentication on the tcp socket allowing various levels of control
on the daemon.. cf mpd.conf(5).

Landry

Re: Firefox 6

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On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Amit Kulkarni  wrote:
>>   Without having an endless crab session about Firefox, I'd like to
>> know if Firefox 6 seems any better for you.   Firefox 4+ seems to
>> not just leak memory, but hemorrhage it.  In 5 I routinely hit the
>> 2G data limit.  FF6 is better in this regard it seems, but freezes
>> the system in fits of reallocing memory, freezing OpenBSD for
>> seconds at a time.

Fwiw, i have firefox running since mid-august, and it takes 250mb of
memory. Never hit the 2G limit, be it 4, 5, 6 on amd64 or i386.

>> FF 3.6.xx seemed much better to me.

Then just use www/firefox36.

>> Are others seeing FF6 as not much better?  I see Landry just
>> committed 6.0.2 so I'm going to try that, but I don't have a lot of
>> hope.

Point releases are security updates...

> try FF7 b4 from his git repo
> http://rhaalovely.net/cgit/mozilla-firefox/commit/?h=beta

Or packages : http://dawn.rhaalovely.net/stuff/amd64/
http://dawn.rhaalovely.net/stuff/i386/

Landry

Re: no packages for amd64 snapshot

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On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Gregory Edigarov
 wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> is this intentional, or there is some problem that prevents amd64
> snapshot packags from being built?

The gremlins stole them.

Re: format of i386/index.txt

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On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Stuart Henderson  wrote:
> On 2010-03-17, Jan Stary  wrote:
>> (It has changed back and forth in the last month.)
>
> I tried using index.txt files for timestamps to monitor the latency
> of mirror updates, but had problems with some of them flipping
> between formats; I have a suspicion that some site or other
> regenerates index.txt files but I haven't been able to track it
> down yet...

That's why i used the timestamp method (mdtm) in Net::FTP for
http://gruiik.info/up2date.html.. instead of parsing unknown-formatted
files :)

Landry

Re: libcairo.so.9.2 missing

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On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Ted Roby  wrote:
> My xfce4 build fails. I have refreshed cvs multiple times, built new
> release packages, and re-attempted with fresh installs from those
> packages. Did I break something?

Probably

> here's what I found relevant:
> Checksumming...Error in package:
> /usr/ports/pobj/cairo-1.8.8p0/fake-i386/usr/local/lib/libcairo.so.9.2 does
> not exist

So your cairo build fails, not xfce4 build. Why not just using
snapshots packages as everyone advices ?
cd graphics/cairo && make clean && make install.

Landry

Re: How to work around this compiler bug

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On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Christopher Zimmermann
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the following piece of code compiles fine using g++ 4.2.4, but
> fails using g++ 3.3.5 in the base system:
>
> error: operands to ?: have different types
>
> It is part of ptlib, which is the base library for opal, which in
> turn is needed for ekiga, which I'm trying to port.

Save yourself time, pkg_add ekiga.

Re: Serious problems with current since end of april, related to scsi controllers (Adaptec/LSILogic)

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On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Ulrich Kahl  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Since end of april, sorry I don't have a more precise date, one of my
> systems has serious problems.
> It can't boot sucessfully with a Adaptec controller anymore, the first
> sign is that it can't find one library, e.g. libc or libz, and later
> the hard disks transfer rate can't established and the system freezes. See
> the first dmesg.
>
> After switching the controller to a LSILogic one, the system boots
> correctly, but (presumly) under higher disk io load the system panics,
> syncing my local cvs repository with cvsync in this case. See second
> dmesg and trace output.
>
> Does someone else encounter similar problems?

With the LSILogic using mpi(4), be sure to really run current, r 1.143
of dev/ic/mpi.c was causing this problem and has been backed out some
days ago.
No idea for the adapted problem though.

Landry

Re: How to work around this compiler bug

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On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Christopher Zimmermann
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I got another problem compiling some strange C++ code with gcc
> 3.5; still from opal:

Again... what are you trying to achieve ? What's wrong with net/opal
and x11/gnome/ekiga ports/packages ?

Landry

Re: new mirror: ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de

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On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Carsten Otto
 wrote:
> Dear OpenBSD team,
>
> we offer a new mirror for your project, hosted at RWTH Aachen University
> in Germany:
>
> http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/openbsd/
> ftp://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/openbsd/
> rsync://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/openbsd/
>
> Of course, we also offer OpenBSD at these addresses, as requested:
> http://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/pub/OpenBSD/
> ftp://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/pub/OpenBSD/
>
> The mirror is offering everything we could find and we consider to also
> provide access to your "distfiles" in the near future.
>
> We currently offer 2 GBit/sec and will this extend to 10 GBit/sec soon.
>
> I still do not have all the data the project offers and do not know
> where to sync from. Sadly, the mirrors on
> http://www.openbsd.org/ftp.html#rsync do not offer the same data set
> (and all of them are quite slow). Could you give me access to a
>  - complete
>  - fast
>  - primary?
> mirror? If you have ACLs, please add 137.226.34.42.

You only need to mirror two releases and snapshots (as stated on ftp.html)
to become an official mirror.. having all releases is a bonus, and very
few mirrors have them (iirc, only ftp.su.se).

Besides, you'll need to synch from a second level mirror (ftp.eu aka
ftp.su.se,
from which most european mirrors fetch), primary only allows fetching to
trusted mirrors ran by developers.

Another second level mirror should pop up soon in .ch.

Landry

Re: Tracking What it's changing in current

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On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Orestes Leal R.
 wrote:
> I need to see (with a tool or whatever) what changes have occured between
> current,
> let's say between current 4.9 from february 9 and current dated february
> 14. They are logged in some place?

Yeah, that's called CVS.

Re: Tracking What it's changing in current

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On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Luis Useche  wrote:
> One thing I would really like to see is the diffs of every commit. This is
> available for DragonflyBSD for instance. Is there a way to find this on
> OBSD?

http://anoncvs.estpak.ee/cgi-bin/cgit/

Re: SLiM: X server already running on display 0

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On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Nathan Van Ymeren 
wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm attempting to install SLiM and XFCE4 on 4.8.
>
> I first installed slim to replace the oh-so-pretty xdm, and it worked fine
> to get into fvwm.  After installing xfce4 however, xdm started instead of
> slim on boot.  As best I can determine it's an xfce problem, not a slim
> problem.

What about _not_ starting xdm AND slim ? You're the one to decide
which login manager you want, through xdm_flags='' in rc.conf.local or
the slim snippet from pkg_info -M which goes into rc.local.
Installing xfce4 has nothing to do with starting xdm/slim.

Landry

Re: Packages security updates

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On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 11:45 PM, enclair  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> the FAQ says:
>
> "When serious bugs or security flaws are discovered in third party software,
> they are fixed in the *-stable* branch of the ports tree. Remember that the
> lifecycle is 1 release: only the current and last release are updated"
>
> Does it mean:
>
> 1) 4.8-stable and -current have security updates for packages.
>
> or
>
> 2) 4.7-stable and 4.8-stable have security updates for packages.

Commits happen first in -current, then sometimes to 4.7-stable and 4.8-stable
branches of the portstree. You need to build packages yourself though.

Landry

Re: Like OpenBSD? Like to see new stuff happening? You really need to order a CD today :)

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On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Paul M  wrote:

> Just order as many as you want and bin the excess. What really is being
> wasted?, A wee bit of plastic, traces of other materials and a small amount
> of energy used to produce it. A company that runs a big neon sign overnight
> is probably wasting more than that.

Wow. That's probably the lamest reply i've seen in this thread.
"Everyone's wasting energy and dumping brand new things, so i should do it too!"

Landry

Re: Processeur Atom ?

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On 6/12/10, E.T  wrote:
>
> yes, datacenter in french, camera, backup, protection fire. Datacenter in
> frech : inverter on fire, crash server datacenter attack, maintenance
> operation catastrophy, server on fire site web black-out. It's reality in
> french. There is no accident, datacenter america and canada?

Can you try learning english ? This is an english-only mailing list.
You make us frogs really ashamed by you simili-engrish.

Oh, and stop talking about things you don't know, especially here...

Landry

Re: emulators/sdlmame build fails

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On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Ted Roby  wrote:
> I'm still trying to build gnome on amd64.
>
> emulators/sdlmame fails like this:
> In file included from /usr/local/include/SDL/SDL_opengl.h:44,
> from src/osd/sdl/osd_opengl.h:21,
> from src/osd/sdl/window.h:20,
> from src/osd/sdl/input.h:15,
> from src/osd/sdl/sdlmain.c:24:
> /usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h:2100:5: error: "GL_ARB_shader_objects" is not
defined
> gmake: *** [obj/sdl/mame/osd/sdl/sdlmain.o] Error 1
> *** Error code 2
>
> I have updated devel/sdl.
>
>
> # pkg_info -E /usr/local/include/SDL/SDL_opengl.h
> # pkg_info -E /usr/local/include/SDL/SDL_opengl.h
> /usr/local/include/SDL/SDL_opengl.h: sdl-1.2.13p13
> sdl-1.2.13p13   cross-platform multimedia library

Update again. p14 solves it.

Landry

Re: network configuration problems

[Landry Breuil]

# bash /etc/netstart

>From there, you're doing it wrong.

On 6/19/10, Jean-Frangois SIMON  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have some problem with network in OpenBSD 4.7.
>
> The netstart script does strange output :
>
> # bash /etc/netstart
> /etc/netstart: line 44: set: -A: invalid option
> set: usage: set [--abefhkmnptuvxBCHP] [-o option-name] [arg ...]
> WARNING: /etc/hostname.re0 is insecure, fixing permissions
> DHCPREQUEST on re0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
> DHCPACK from 192.168.30.1 (00:19:4b:07:6c:ad)
> bound to 192.168.30.11 -- renewal in 302400 seconds.
> /etc/netstart: line 44: set: -A: invalid option
> set: usage: set [--abefhkmnptuvxBCHP] [-o option-name] [arg ...]
> WARNING: /etc/hostname.re1 is insecure, fixing permissions
> /etc/netstart: line 284: syntax error in conditional expression: unexpected
> token `('
> /etc/netstart: line 284: syntax error near `@(*'
> /etc/netstart: line 284: `[[ $gw == @(*:*) ]] && continue'
>
> One point being insecure permissions but they look good :# ls -l
> /etc/hostname.*
>
> -rw---  1 root  wheel  444 Jun 19 21:15 /etc/hostname.bridge0
> -rw---  1 root  wheel5 Jun 13 01:53 /etc/hostname.re0
> -rw---  1 root  wheel   66 Jun 13 20:18 /etc/hostname.re1
>
> The other fact being not creating the bridge :
> # cat
> hostname.bridge0
>
> add re1 -learn re1
> rule pass in on re1 src 00:25:32:1b:d5:10 tag macok
> rule pass in on re1 src 00:08:64:a8:71:81 tag macok
> up
>
> #
> ifconfig
>
> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 33160
> priority: 0
> groups: lo
> inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
> inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
> inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
> re0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> lladdr 00:25:32:1b:d5:10
> priority: 0
> groups: egress
> media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex,rxpause,txpause)
> status: active
> inet6 fe80::225:22ff:fe1b:d510%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
> inet 192.168.30.11 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.30.255
> re1: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> lladdr 00:08:64:a8:71:81
> priority: 0
> media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
> status: no carrier
> inet6 fe80::208:54ff:fea8:7181%re1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
> inet 192.168.100.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.100.255
> enc0: flags=0<> mtu 1536
> priority: 0
> pflog0: flags=141 mtu 33160
> priority: 0
> groups: pflog
>
> May I have you help to sort it out ?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jean-Frangois

Re: Java plugin not detected by Firefox

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On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Jiri B.  wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:01:04 +0200
> Martin Toft  wrote:
>
>> > Java plugin does not work since Firefox 3.6.x changes the connection
>> > mechanism and requires newer Java. Licensing issues so far prevent
>> > getting Java updated. If you need Java, you need to stay with 3.5.x
>>
>> And people keep telling me Java is "free"...
>
> IIRC OpenJDK doesn't contain all stuff, like sound support and plugin.
> IceTea project bases their work on OpenJDK and provides their version
> of plugin which works with OpenJDK, this is what is Debian using.

And this is what pkgsrc does in www/openjdk-icedtea-plugin, which
works with firefox 3.6.x.

Landry

Re: Ports problem

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On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Warlock BSD  wrote:
> Hi all! I have an Ibm Thinkpad r50e. I install OpenBSD, configure the X,
> install fluxbox and other applications with pkg_add but when I try to
> install unrar (its not in the pkg_add) unsing the ports the compilation
> fail. I try to compilate other ports and fails again. I download the ports
> from the ftp ports.tar.gz and using cvs but i cant compile the ports.
> I get this error:
>
> http://pastebin.com/mm1tp9za

You're trying to use a -current portstree on a 4.7 installation. This
is not supported
See http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html#NoFun

Landry

Re: x11/xfce4/exo fails build on libnotify

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On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:53 AM, Ted Roby  wrote:
> This is from most recent snapshot, and with infrastructure/libtool fix
> in past 24 hours, 16:45 PST.
>
> gmake[4]: /usr/ports/infrastructure/bin/libtool: Command not found

And you think this is not meaningful enough ?

Re: cannot update packages after upgrade on 4.6 current as of january 12

[Landry Breuil]

On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Bret S. Lambert
 wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 03:25:40AM -0600, Donald Cooley wrote:
>> after upgrading current  i tried to update all packages but update fails:
>^
>
> You've likely borked this part of the process. What steps did you take
> to upgrade?

Not really sure..

>>
>> Can't locate OpenBSD/OldLibs.pm in @INC (@INC contains:
>> /usr/libdata/perl5/i386-openbsd/5.10.1
>> /usr/local/libdata/perl5/i386-openbsd/5.10.1 /usr/libdata/perl5
>> /usr/local/libdata/perl5
>> /usr/local/libdata/perl5/site_perl/i386-openbsd
>> /usr/libdata/perl5/site_perl/i386-openbsd
>> /usr/local/libdata/perl5/site_perl /usr/libdata/perl5/site_perl .) at
>> /usr/sbin/pkg_add line 602.

Package quirks too recent for userland.

cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/pkg_add
cvs up
make && make install

will fixit.

Landry

Re: MPD-0.15.7 will not do httpd streamingi on my system.

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On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Aaron Stellman  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 08:05:46PM -0500, s.casw...@protocol6.com wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> I'm at my wits end with httpd streaming from mpd-0.15.7.
>>
>> I installed the latest mpd package from snapshots and its installs fine on 
>> my Openbsd -current system.
>>
>> I modified the /etc/mpd.conf file by adding my music directory and set the 
>> bind_to_address to "any"
>
> Is that the only audio_output that's defined? When I had two defined,
> only the first one worked.

Still using previous mpd here, but i have 3 outputs, and they all work fine.

OP: did you enable the http output after launching mpd ? 'mpc outputs'
will tell you so.

Landry

Re: Daily : forward mails from root to normal user

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On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Jean-Francois  wrote:
> hello,
> How to properly do the following ?
>
> Note: The scripts are all run as part of root's crontab(5).  However,
it
> is strongly suggested that the root mail account be an alias that for-
> wards messages to a real user or set of users.  Otherwise, root's mail
> will simply accumulate in /var/mail until the partition holding it runs
> out of space.  See newaliases(8) for further details.

# Well-known aliases -- these should be filled in!
root:

Something like root:your.r...@email.tld in /etc/mail/aliases + running
newaliases does the trick.

Landry

Re: VHS transfer on OpenBSD

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On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Jan-Erik Skata wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Jan Stary  wrote:
>
>> I need to transfer some old VHS tapes into (any) digital video format.
>> On OpenBSD of course. I understand I need
>>
>> (1) a VCR, obviously, to play those tapes
>> (2) a TV card that can input what the VCR outputs
>> (3) a piece of software that can capture the input
>>
>> Before I start shopping 80's style, does anyone have some general
>> DO/DONT advice about (2) and (3), or even a complete working solution?
>>
>> (Excuse my lameness, I never did any video work.)
>>
>>Thanks for your time
>>
>>Jan
>>
>>
> Think you might want to use Linux instead. Very few, if any, tuners are
> supported under OpenBSD, while Linux has reasonable support both for analog
> and digital (DVB/ATSC) cards. You probably just need an analog card with
> S-VHS/composite in.

All the bt848-based cards works through bktr(4), with composite input.
to watch composite input, use mplayer -tv
device=/dev/bktr0:driver=bsdbt848:input=1 tv://
.. i suppose mencoder would be able to record, though i didn't test.

Landry

Re: smtpd update

[Landry Breuil]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Jacek Masiulaniec
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> smtpd has recently benefited from many changes to the local and remote
> delivery code paths.  Their aim is to advance smtpd few steps further to
> being well suited for production use.  I have been working on this for a
> number of weeks, and to put it bluntly - the changes are massive.
>
> So, please grab the latest smtpd and give it a spin.
>
> If you are not already using smtpd but would like to start, edit
> /etc/mailer.conf
>
> sendmail/usr/sbin/smtpctl
> send-mail   /usr/sbin/smtpctl
> mailq   /usr/sbin/smtpctl
> makemap /usr/libexec/smtpd/makemap
> newaliases  /usr/libexec/smtpd/makemap
>
> and run
>
> # echo sendmail_flags=NO >> /etc/rc.conf.local
> # echo smtpd_flags= >> /etc/rc.conf.local
> # newaliases

And i suppose, comment the sendmail clientmqueue runner job in crontab ?

Landry

Re: Xconsole using Xfce

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On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Edd Barrett  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 02:15:28AM +0200, Morten Juhl-Johansen Zvlde-Fejir 
> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I have installed the new OpenBSD - and am now toying with a shiny new
>> desktop.
>> I am using Xfce, but I am wondering about one thing: I keep getting a
>> status Xconsole. Could anyone point me to how I might disable that?
>
> 'pkill xconsole' in ~/.xsession is what I used to do.

Yeah sure, hide the problem under the carpet instead of trying to solve it.

> Either that or remove it from Xsetup_0 in /usr/X11R6 someplace.

First of all, how do you launch xfce ? Using xdm or startx has an influence, as
it's xdm which starts the xconsole. If you use another login manager
like x11/slim or gdm, it doesn't happen.
with /usr/local/bin/startxfce4 in .xinitrc, running startx doesn't
create an xconsole.

Landry

Re: ldpctl and ldpd

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On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Rene Maroufi  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 02:56:16PM +0300, Aleksandr Gurbo wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Where is I can found man pages for ldpd and ldpdctl?
>>
>> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=ldpd&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=OpenBSD+4.6&arch=i386&format=html

http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/ldpd/ldpd.8?rev=1.1
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.sbin/ldpctl/ldpctl.8?rev=1.1

Btw, they're not linked to the build yet.. hence no online manpage,
nor in -CURRENT.

Landry

Re: amavisd-new broken?

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On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Fernando Quintero
 wrote:
> Hi all,
> Im trying to install amavisd-new on release 4.6 / 386, and i got an
> error with the freeze-2.5p0 package.
> Im looking for it in the packages list on the openbsd's mirrors and
> can't find it.

Its licence doesn't permit to distribute packages.
You'll have to build it first from the ports tree in archivers/freeze.

Re: LXDE in OpenBSD

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On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 4:16 AM, LOL  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Paolo Aglialoro  wrote:
>
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> are there any plans to port LXDE to OpenBSD?
>> THX
>>
>>
> I hope someone will do it !

I looked at it at c2k8 and frankly it sucked hard. Shitloads of
linux-only code, lots of components more or less badly forked from
xfce4, etc etc. Maybe it changed since then...

Landry

Re: Architeture Choose

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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Diana Eichert  wrote:
> I just saw the v20z 4.8 dmesg on ajacoutot@ webpage and
> noticed he was running i386 instead of 64-bit.  Curious
> if that is just a preference on his part or an issue
> with running 64-bit O/S on the box.

I'm running amd64 on 7 v20z hosts without issues.

Landry

Re: RSS/Atom feed reader

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On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:42 AM, Predrag Punosevac  wrote:
> As the title says I am in the search for a good RSS/Atom feed reader
> preferably for console(ncurses).
>
> I tried two of them from the ports: snownews and rawdog. I really like
> snownews but it seems that it has some problems with RSS 2.0. Even worse
> I have been not being able to used with Atom feeds inspite the fact
> that I installed atom2rss extension.
>
> I have also heard about Newsbeuter (coded by the same guy who wrote tpp
> which is recently ported). Has anybody tried to port it to OpenBSD?

newsbeuter depends on a lib which can't be ported to openbsd yet.

There's also www/raggle..

Landry

Re: multicore processors gain

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On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Ted Unangst  wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Christian Weisgerber 
> wrote:
>> I guess Landry doesn't read this list, or he could tell you how his
>> experiment with parallel ports building on a 64-way sparc64 T2 went.
>> With 32 build jobs it looked like this:
>>
>>  0.8%Int  48.9%Sys   6.0%Usr   0.0%Nic  44.3%Idle
>>  around that all the time
>
> My understanding is that the T2 is closer to an 8-way machine.  If we
> could recognize the real cores and balance appropriately, 8 build jobs
> shouldn't be too bad.
>
> At least with a 4-core 8-thread i7 processor, make -j 8 scales reasonably
> well.

In that particular case, dpb jobs are a bit different than just
running 'make -j'.
It's more like "oh let's build XX ports at the same time", which is a perfect
stresstest for smp.

32 Build jobs made the machine totally unusable (load was constant around
40/45 iirc), so far i've settled for 12 jobs, which spawns approx ~50/60 make
processes in parallel (a single port build spawns 4/5 makes), more or less
the
same amount of shells, and smth like ~20 ssh process as it's the dpb master
node.
Load is constant around 20, and the machine is still 'responsive'.

227 processes: 210 idle, 17 on processor
All CPUs:  5.8% user,  0.0% nice, 16.9% system,  0.8% interrupt, 76.5% idle

Landry

Re: Running "ksh -l" in terminal window under XFCE

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On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Paolo Aglialoro  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've setup a certain number of aliases and vars both in /etc/profile and in
> .profile and, whenever I login they always get read.
> But opening a new terminal window under XFCE does not open a terminal with a
> "login" so the two files do not get read.
>
> By reading ksh(1) man, one discovers that this problem can be easily
> circumvented by issuing a "ksh -l" command.
> But this is quite annoying to type after every time I open a new terminal
> and I still haven't found in XFCE terminal the setting to modify this
> behaviour.
> Is there some variable to set or am I missing some obvious parameter config?

preferences -> general tab -> launch command as login shell

Landry