Re: iOS 7.1.1 and some problems

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi William,
Yes I have found the same as you. Sometimes, touching different parts of the 
screen and trying to find the start date etc manually helps sort things out. 
But I agree it is a bug and will report it to apple myself.
Lisette

On 5/05/2014, at 9:50 pm, William Windels  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I thinks since iOS 7.1.1 on my iphone 5, I have some strange problems.
> 
> 1.In the calendar:
> I can't always changing starting/ending time (date, hours, minutes). When I 
> do a swipe right, I go e.g. from starting hours to ending date.
> And sometimes, When I do a swipe back , I see the fields that where missing 
> but sometimes not.
> This seems the case in all time/date fields in the native calendar app.
> 
> 2.And a second problem that occur in different native iOS apps:
> I swipe to a button, the button is spoken and when I do a double tab on the 
> screen, I hear the sound like there is no element selected for activation.
> 
> I hope that this problems are clearly explained and perhaps someone can give 
> suggestions or confirmations of this problems.
> 
> Kind regards,
> William 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a choice 
in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been through these 
choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor have I found .csv.  

Thank you

Andrew
On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Doug,
> 
> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
> 
> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, CSV, 
> TXT, and RTF.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
> 
>> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount too. 
>>>  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it for 
>>> $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's already 
>>> made my life easier.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
 
 hi list
 
 can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner on 
 my iMac?
 
 thank you in advance
 
 
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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Jan Blüher, visorApps]

Hallo Kawal,

there is a new firmware 4.93 out for the Focus 40 blue. With version 4.57 
bluetooth connection to the latest Mac OS X does not work. I do have the same 
problem, here. Someone I know, who already uses the new firmware, however, has 
no issues with the connection. So, we need it, too.

Greetings

Jan

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Am 07.05.2014 um 02:16 schrieb Teresa Cochran :

> The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write to 
> Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a public 
> link.
> 
> hth,
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On May 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
>> My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
>> problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I Mac 
>>> and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer seed, 
>>> using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  I get 
>>> the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean some one, 
>>> does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my Focus Blue?  I 
>>> don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download the driver and if 
>>> so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I write to Apple 
>>> Accessibility?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

OK. If I were to get the firmware, as I will, would I have to use windows to 
download it and install as I don't have windows on my I Mac at the moment. If 
not, how could I dowdload it and install?

Thanks.

Kawal.

> On 7 May 2014, at 08:46 am, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hallo Kawal,
> 
> there is a new firmware 4.93 out for the Focus 40 blue. With version 4.57 
> bluetooth connection to the latest Mac OS X does not work. I do have the same 
> problem, here. Someone I know, who already uses the new firmware, however, 
> has no issues with the connection. So, we need it, too.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
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> Germany
> 
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> 
> 
>> Am 07.05.2014 um 02:16 schrieb Teresa Cochran :
>> 
>> The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write to 
>> Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a public 
>> link.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
>>> problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
 Hi.
 
 A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I 
 Mac and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer 
 seed, using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  I 
 get the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean some 
 one, does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my Focus Blue? 
  I don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download the driver and 
 if so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I write to Apple 
 Accessibility?
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Jan Blüher, visorApps]

Hi Kawal,

I wonder myself about that, too. I wrote to Freedom Scientific. Let's wait what 
they will tell.

Greetings

Jan

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Am 07.05.2014 um 10:08 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :

> OK. If I were to get the firmware, as I will, would I have to use windows to 
> download it and install as I don't have windows on my I Mac at the moment. If 
> not, how could I dowdload it and install?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 08:46 am, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hallo Kawal,
>> 
>> there is a new firmware 4.93 out for the Focus 40 blue. With version 4.57 
>> bluetooth connection to the latest Mac OS X does not work. I do have the 
>> same problem, here. Someone I know, who already uses the new firmware, 
>> however, has no issues with the connection. So, we need it, too.
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> ---
>> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
>> Download on the App Store:
>> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
>> ---
>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>> D-01187 Dresden
>> Germany
>> 
>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>> web: http://visorApps.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>> 
>> tax number: DE281706766
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 07.05.2014 um 02:16 schrieb Teresa Cochran :
>> 
>>> The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write to 
>>> Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a public 
>>> link.
>>> 
>>> hth,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>>> Feynman
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
 My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
 problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
 
 
 On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 
> Hi.
> 
> A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I 
> Mac and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer 
> seed, using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  
> I get the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean some 
> one, does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my Focus 
> Blue?  I don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download the 
> driver and if so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I 
> write to Apple Accessibility?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
> 
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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have requested for the firmware but have not told them that I don't have 
windows. Please let me know what they say and how we can put the firmware on 
our display.

Very much appreciate your help.

Kawal.

> On 7 May 2014, at 09:16 am, "Jan Blüher, visorApps"  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kawal,
> 
> I wonder myself about that, too. I wrote to Freedom Scientific. Let's wait 
> what they will tell.
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
> Download on the App Store:
> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
> 
> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> Am 07.05.2014 um 10:08 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> 
>> OK. If I were to get the firmware, as I will, would I have to use windows to 
>> download it and install as I don't have windows on my I Mac at the moment. 
>> If not, how could I dowdload it and install?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 08:46 am, "Jan Blüher, visorApps" 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hallo Kawal,
>>> 
>>> there is a new firmware 4.93 out for the Focus 40 blue. With version 4.57 
>>> bluetooth connection to the latest Mac OS X does not work. I do have the 
>>> same problem, here. Someone I know, who already uses the new firmware, 
>>> however, has no issues with the connection. So, we need it, too.
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
>>> Download on the App Store:
>>> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
>>> ---
>>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>>> D-01187 Dresden
>>> Germany
>>> 
>>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>>> web: http://visorApps.com
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>>> 
>>> tax number: DE281706766
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 07.05.2014 um 02:16 schrieb Teresa Cochran :
 
 The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write 
 to Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a 
 public link.
 
 hth,
 Teresa
 
 "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
 Feynman
 
> On May 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
> problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I 
>> Mac and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer 
>> seed, using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  
>> I get the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean 
>> some one, does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my 
>> Focus Blue?  I don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download 
>> the driver and if so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I 
>> write to Apple Accessibility?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a choice 
> in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been through these 
> choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor have I found .csv. 
>  
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Andrew
> On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Doug,
>> 
>> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
>> 
>> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, CSV, 
>> TXT, and RTF.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>>> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount 
 too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it 
 for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's 
 already made my life easier.
 
 
> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
> 
> hi list
> 
> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner 
> on my iMac?
> 
> thank you in advance
> 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Andrew Lamanche]

Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for a 
time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do apologise for 
the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show all" button.  However, 
having read through the help files and having fiddled some more this morning, I 
have at least found the .txt option which appeared only after invoking the 
"export document" dialog.  Maybe that's what is intended in the first place.  I 
will try to look for the "show all' button again.  When I open Finereader with 
my scanner attached, I see the table from which I choose the source of the 
images to be added, i.e. mac, my scanner, and then to the right just 4 choices 
of scanning to pdf or word or excel or html and then I come across new document 
section and various choices for that but no "show all" button.  I will ask a 
sighted friend to have a look for me too.  I like FineReader Pro very much 
indeed.  I have plenty to learn but it is worth it.

Thanks again for your response.

Andrew
On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:

> Hello Andrew,
> 
> You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
>> choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
>> through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor 
>> have I found .csv.  
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Doug,
>>> 
>>> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
>>> 
>>> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, 
>>> CSV, TXT, and RTF.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>>> 
 D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
 Thanks,
 Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount 
> too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it 
> for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's 
> already made my life easier.
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
>> 
>> hi list
>> 
>> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner 
>> on my iMac?
>> 
>> thank you in advance
>> 
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Re: Is there a trick to using VoiceOver to read mail messages in the Mail application?

[David Taylor]

Hi,

Alternatively, don't interact at all, simply arrow up and down the message list 
and hit return to open one. If you want to delete the message you are on in the 
list, or the message you are currently in, backspace is your friend, no need 
for all these keystrokes people use.

Cheers
Dave

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> I'm having issues trying to navigate through mail messages.How do you get to 
> the pane that contains the full message? I tried to stop interacting  with 
> the current pane, and then pressing VO - Right Arrow but it continues to read 
> the abbreviated version of the message.  
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Re: problem after most recent Mavericks update

[Piotr Machacz]

The only speech loss I've been seeing is only with Vocalizer voices and 
activities. If VO switches activities while you're using a vocaliser voice, it 
seems to take a few seconds to load for a few reason. Apart from that I haven't 
seen anything else relating to losing speech.

On 06 May 2014, at 10:55 pm, David Taylor  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yes, I have been having problems. I associated them with installing Airfoil, 
> but it could easily be the Mavericks update that started the same issue. 
> Turning VO off and on again gets my audio back though.
> 
> Cheers
> Dave
> 
> On 6 May 2014, at 21:39, don bishop  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I'm having a problem where I loose voiceover speech for several seconds 
>> periodically.  I can't see a pattern to the speech loss, and it eventually 
>> comes back.  I've been noticing this since the last Mavericks update.  I 
>> took the machine into the Apple store and the tech cleaned up a bunch of 
>> thigs and also said that other people have been having problems since the 
>> last update also.  
>> 
>> I haven't seen anything on the list regarding this, and wonder if others are 
>> having issues since the last update.  When I do have speech, the imac seems 
>> to work just fine.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Don
>> 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andrew,

On that first screen, go to the first visible item then navigate right and the 
third item should be the Show all check box.

Cheers,

Anne


On 7 May 2014, at 11:45, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:

> Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for a 
> time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do apologise 
> for the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show all" button.  
> However, having read through the help files and having fiddled some more this 
> morning, I have at least found the .txt option which appeared only after 
> invoking the "export document" dialog.  Maybe that's what is intended in the 
> first place.  I will try to look for the "show all' button again.  When I 
> open Finereader with my scanner attached, I see the table from which I choose 
> the source of the images to be added, i.e. mac, my scanner, and then to the 
> right just 4 choices of scanning to pdf or word or excel or html and then I 
> come across new document section and various choices for that but no "show 
> all" button.  I will ask a sighted friend to have a look for me too.  I like 
> FineReader Pro very much indeed.  I have plenty to learn but it is worth it.
> 
> Thanks again for your response.
> 
> Andrew
> On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>>> Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
>>> choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
>>> through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor 
>>> have I found .csv.  
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Doug,
 
 Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
 
 PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, 
 CSV, TXT, and RTF.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
 
> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount 
>> too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get 
>> it for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's 
>> already made my life easier.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi list
>>> 
>>> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner 
>>> on my iMac?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
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Re: problem after most recent Mavericks update

[isaac]

Yes I have noticed that to every time I use a voice for an activity it takes a 
while to load.
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On May 7, 2014, at 5:02 AM, Piotr Machacz  wrote:

> The only speech loss I've been seeing is only with Vocalizer voices and 
> activities. If VO switches activities while you're using a vocaliser voice, 
> it seems to take a few seconds to load for a few reason. Apart from that I 
> haven't seen anything else relating to losing speech.
> 
> On 06 May 2014, at 10:55 pm, David Taylor  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes, I have been having problems. I associated them with installing Airfoil, 
>> but it could easily be the Mavericks update that started the same issue. 
>> Turning VO off and on again gets my audio back though.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> 
>> On 6 May 2014, at 21:39, don bishop  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm having a problem where I loose voiceover speech for several seconds 
>>> periodically.  I can't see a pattern to the speech loss, and it eventually 
>>> comes back.  I've been noticing this since the last Mavericks update.  I 
>>> took the machine into the Apple store and the tech cleaned up a bunch of 
>>> thigs and also said that other people have been having problems since the 
>>> last update also.  
>>> 
>>> I haven't seen anything on the list regarding this, and wonder if others 
>>> are having issues since the last update.  When I do have speech, the imac 
>>> seems to work just fine.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Don
>>> 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Anne.

I can only find a go wright button, that lets me see a lot of formats, I have 
not been aware that I could choose them on the screen that way. I have normally 
scanned to a new document and afterwards exported to the format/formats I want.

I am not able to find the show all button, I have also tried with the router.

Best regards Annie.
Den 07/05/2014 kl. 12.56 skrev Anne Robertson :

> Hello Andrew,
> 
> On that first screen, go to the first visible item then navigate right and 
> the third item should be the Show all check box.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 11:45, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for a 
>> time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do apologise 
>> for the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show all" button.  
>> However, having read through the help files and having fiddled some more 
>> this morning, I have at least found the .txt option which appeared only 
>> after invoking the "export document" dialog.  Maybe that's what is intended 
>> in the first place.  I will try to look for the "show all' button again.  
>> When I open Finereader with my scanner attached, I see the table from which 
>> I choose the source of the images to be added, i.e. mac, my scanner, and 
>> then to the right just 4 choices of scanning to pdf or word or excel or html 
>> and then I come across new document section and various choices for that but 
>> no "show all" button.  I will ask a sighted friend to have a look for me 
>> too.  I like FineReader Pro very much indeed.  I have plenty to learn but it 
>> is worth it.
>> 
>> Thanks again for your response.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Andrew,
>>> 
>>> You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
 Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
 choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
 through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor 
 have I found .csv.  
 
 Thank you
 
 Andrew
 On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
> Hello Doug,
> 
> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
> 
> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, 
> CSV, TXT, and RTF.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
> 
>> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount 
>>> too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get 
>>> it for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's 
>>> already made my life easier.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
 
 hi list
 
 can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp 
 scanner on my iMac?
 
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correction to my post regarding option p to open pages

[Laura Bratton]

HI All,
I posted to the list that I was having problems using command P to open pages. 
I meant  to write that I am having problems using option P to open pages. 
SO, I am using maverick on a macbook air. It is set so   that the left option 
key plus P will open Pages. When I press option P nothing happens. The other 
option keys are working. for example left option key plus M opens Mail. Any 
ideas on what I can do to get left option key plus P to work for pages? 
I am sorry for the confusion with my earlier post.
THank you for the help,
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Re: correction to my post regarding option p to open pages

[isaac]

you're keyboard commander might be turned off if that is the case press vo 
shift k to turn it back on.
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> HI All,
> I posted to the list that I was having problems using command P to open 
> pages. I meant  to write that I am having problems using option P to open 
> pages. 
> SO, I am using maverick on a macbook air. It is set so   that the left option 
> key plus P will open Pages. When I press option P nothing happens. The other 
> option keys are working. for example left option key plus M opens Mail. Any 
> ideas on what I can do to get left option key plus P to work for pages? 
> I am sorry for the confusion with my earlier post.
> THank you for the help,
> Laura 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

speaking of fine reader pro..
does the hover cam t5v work with it?  I hope so, because this is what I have 
for a scanner now.  I have docuscan, but want something else more robust and 
with possibley better recognition and one that doesn't require an internet 
connection to do the scanning/processing..
Thanks!
Caitlyn

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> Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for a 
> time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do apologise 
> for the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show all" button.  
> However, having read through the help files and having fiddled some more this 
> morning, I have at least found the .txt option which appeared only after 
> invoking the "export document" dialog.  Maybe that's what is intended in the 
> first place.  I will try to look for the "show all' button again.  When I 
> open Finereader with my scanner attached, I see the table from which I choose 
> the source of the images to be added, i.e. mac, my scanner, and then to the 
> right just 4 choices of scanning to pdf or word or excel or html and then I 
> come across new document section and various choices for that but no "show 
> all" button.  I will ask a sighted friend to have a look for me too.  I like 
> FineReader Pro very much indeed.  I have plenty to learn but it is worth it.
> 
> Thanks again for your response.
> 
> Andrew
> On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>>> Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
>>> choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
>>> through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor 
>>> have I found .csv.  
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Doug,
 
 Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
 
 PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, 
 CSV, TXT, and RTF.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
 
> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount 
>> too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get 
>> it for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's 
>> already made my life easier.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi list
>>> 
>>> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner 
>>> on my iMac?
>>> 
>>> thank you in advance
>>> 
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Re: Which Mac?

[Kayaker]

Hi,

You should be all set. But I have to admit I’m puzzled why you went for the 13 
inch instead of the 11 inch Air? The screen seems like a silly place to invest 
dollars if you can’t see it.

Regardless, the specs will serve you well for quite some time for what your 
stated needs are. Think hard about using bootcamp or VMware Fusion as your 
Windows solution. Pros and cons both ways. Check the archives here for lots of 
tips.

Best,
—k
Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the 
questions.


 

On May 6, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tristan  wrote:

> I opted with the 13 inch MacBook Air early 2014 model. 1.7 GHZ
> (turboboost up to 3.3 GHz), 256 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM. I think from what
> I've heard so far I should be more than set for either VM or bootcamp.
> 
> On 5/6/14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Do you only get 32 RAM on an iMac? As this is what I have!
>> 
>>> On 6 May 2014, at 09:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The main constraint I've noticed when running virtual machines is Windows
>>> beats on the hard drive. So my CPU will be taking a nap while Windows does
>>> who-knows-what on the hard drive. In other words, Windows is an I/O bound
>>> not CPU bound process. Sure, if you're doing something CPU intensive on
>>> there like encoding audio or calculating 10K digits of pi the CPU might
>>> matter but generally spinning disks have not kept up with the leaps in CPU
>>> performance. So I would drop more money on SSD than CPU. Of course, then,
>>> there's RAM. If you don't have enough the system will swap least used
>>> chunks of memory to disk to make room for stuff you actually need. This
>>> swap to disk process can turn any fast drive and CPU to sludge. Now days
>>> machines ship with 4GB of RAM or more and that seems to work pretty well
>>> in most cases. If you're running Windows in a virtual machine that is
>>> going to suck up a good chunk of RAM and keep it as long as it is running.
>>> So for virtual machine users I'd bump up the RAM to avoid going into
>>> swaps-a-lot mode. I just upgraded a Mac Mini from 4 to 16GB. Cost was
>>> about $160 which, as an old computer geezer, is just crazy cheap.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 5/4/14, 12:46 PM, David Taylor wrote:
 It's plenty. My MBA runs faster with a VM than any Windows machine I ever
 had
> On 4 May 2014, at 17:31, Tristan  wrote:
> 
> Would the 1.7 GHZ processor in a MacBook Air be enough for a virtual
> machine though? Or does most of the dependency rely on RAM.
> I don't have much experience with the whole virtual machine front, so
> clarification would definitely be welcome. I originally only opted
> with the MacBook Pro because of the higher processor statistics, and
> glancing at a fully decked out MacBook Air 13 inch and a MacBook Pro
> 13 inch retina, they come out to roughly the same price.
> 
>> On 5/4/14, David Taylor  wrote:
>> Many externals just work, even if they don't say they are compattible,
>> and
>> we are needing such drives less and less often now anyway.
>> 
>>> On 4 May 2014, at 14:31, Eileen Misrahi 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I will ditto what David said. The way I handle a DVD/CD ROM drive is
>>> using
>>> an external one. There are plenty out there that shouldn't cost more
>>> than
>>> $20. The one I have is from my PC netbook days that didn't have an
>>> internal DVD drive. Just make sure that the drive is compatible for
>>> Macs.
>>> HTH. Oh by the way, I purchased an 11 inch MBA with all specs max out
>>> and
>>> it's well worth the cost if you can do it. I'm in the process of
>>> loading
>>> all the software that I can't run on the Mac on the PC side through
>>> bootcamp and it's doing a terrific job, barring the user's mistakes
>>> and
>>> learning Win 8. Good luck and I know you will enjoy the MBA.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> 
>>> Eileen
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 4, 2014, at 5:31 AM, David Taylor 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've gone for the 11 inch myself. I maxed everything out on it and
 find
 it is plenty good enough for me. If you don't need a built in SD
 slot, it
 has everything the 13 inch does, and easy enough to get any adaptors
 you
 need for connections it doesn't have, such as Ethanet if you want
 that.
 The portability is just awesome, performance perfectly good enough
 for
 almost every conceivable use, and I get hours of battery even when
 sat
 outside, streaming, tweeting, downloading and all sorts. I have a USB
 3
 hub I plug in for connecting and charging everything. Works for me,
 anyway.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
> On 4 May 2014, at 07:31, Tristan  wrote:
>>>

Re: correction to my post regarding option p to open pages

[Red.Falcon]

Hi!
The only thing I can think of to check is to go to where you set up that short 
cut and check everything is right like it is only the letter P as your key 
selection and nothing else like a space or comma is in there with it!
And also that Pages is the App to open!
If they are indeed OK I do not know why it does not work!
And on another note have you selected to use both option keys or just the left, 
so does right option T tell you the time!
HTH Colin

On 7 May 2014, at 14:17, Laura Bratton  wrote:

> HI All,
> I posted to the list that I was having problems using command P to open 
> pages. I meant  to write that I am having problems using option P to open 
> pages. 
> SO, I am using maverick on a macbook air. It is set so   that the left option 
> key plus P will open Pages. When I press option P nothing happens. The other 
> option keys are working. for example left option key plus M opens Mail. Any 
> ideas on what I can do to get left option key plus P to work for pages? 
> I am sorry for the confusion with my earlier post.
> THank you for the help,
> Laura 
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Re: correction to my post regarding option p to open pages

[David Taylor]

Sometimes, you just have to turn VO off and on again


On 7 May 2014, at 14:48, Red.Falcon  wrote:

> Hi!
> The only thing I can think of to check is to go to where you set up that 
> short cut and check everything is right like it is only the letter P as your 
> key selection and nothing else like a space or comma is in there with it!
> And also that Pages is the App to open!
> If they are indeed OK I do not know why it does not work!
> And on another note have you selected to use both option keys or just the 
> left, so does right option T tell you the time!
> HTH Colin
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 14:17, Laura Bratton  wrote:
> 
>> HI All,
>> I posted to the list that I was having problems using command P to open 
>> pages. I meant  to write that I am having problems using option P to open 
>> pages. 
>> SO, I am using maverick on a macbook air. It is set so   that the left 
>> option key plus P will open Pages. When I press option P nothing happens. 
>> The other option keys are working. for example left option key plus M opens 
>> Mail. Any ideas on what I can do to get left option key plus P to work for 
>> pages? 
>> I am sorry for the confusion with my earlier post.
>> THank you for the help,
>> Laura 
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Re: Which Mac?

[Tristan]

I got the 13 inch for the battery life. 11 inch has 9 hours, compared
to the 13 inch which has 12. While using a virtual machine -- or --
Windows in general, it's important to have as much battery life as
possible, as Windows lacks the excellent power management that OSX
has. That three hours could mean a large difference in terms of how
much battery life is taken off from virtual machines.

On 5/7/14, Kayaker  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You should be all set. But I have to admit I’m puzzled why you went for the
> 13 inch instead of the 11 inch Air? The screen seems like a silly place to
> invest dollars if you can’t see it.
>
> Regardless, the specs will serve you well for quite some time for what your
> stated needs are. Think hard about using bootcamp or VMware Fusion as your
> Windows solution. Pros and cons both ways. Check the archives here for lots
> of tips.
>
> Best,
> —k
> Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
> questions.
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>
>> I opted with the 13 inch MacBook Air early 2014 model. 1.7 GHZ
>> (turboboost up to 3.3 GHz), 256 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM. I think from what
>> I've heard so far I should be more than set for either VM or bootcamp.
>>
>> On 5/6/14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> Do you only get 32 RAM on an iMac? As this is what I have!
>>>
 On 6 May 2014, at 09:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
  wrote:

 The main constraint I've noticed when running virtual machines is
 Windows
 beats on the hard drive. So my CPU will be taking a nap while Windows
 does
 who-knows-what on the hard drive. In other words, Windows is an I/O
 bound
 not CPU bound process. Sure, if you're doing something CPU intensive on
 there like encoding audio or calculating 10K digits of pi the CPU might
 matter but generally spinning disks have not kept up with the leaps in
 CPU
 performance. So I would drop more money on SSD than CPU. Of course,
 then,
 there's RAM. If you don't have enough the system will swap least used
 chunks of memory to disk to make room for stuff you actually need. This
 swap to disk process can turn any fast drive and CPU to sludge. Now
 days
 machines ship with 4GB of RAM or more and that seems to work pretty
 well
 in most cases. If you're running Windows in a virtual machine that is
 going to suck up a good chunk of RAM and keep it as long as it is
 running.
 So for virtual machine users I'd bump up the RAM to avoid going into
 swaps-a-lot mode. I just upgraded a Mac Mini from 4 to 16GB. Cost was
 about $160 which, as an old computer geezer, is just crazy cheap.

 CB

> On 5/4/14, 12:46 PM, David Taylor wrote:
> It's plenty. My MBA runs faster with a VM than any Windows machine I
> ever
> had
>> On 4 May 2014, at 17:31, Tristan  wrote:
>>
>> Would the 1.7 GHZ processor in a MacBook Air be enough for a virtual
>> machine though? Or does most of the dependency rely on RAM.
>> I don't have much experience with the whole virtual machine front, so
>> clarification would definitely be welcome. I originally only opted
>> with the MacBook Pro because of the higher processor statistics, and
>> glancing at a fully decked out MacBook Air 13 inch and a MacBook Pro
>> 13 inch retina, they come out to roughly the same price.
>>
>>> On 5/4/14, David Taylor  wrote:
>>> Many externals just work, even if they don't say they are
>>> compattible,
>>> and
>>> we are needing such drives less and less often now anyway.
>>>
 On 4 May 2014, at 14:31, Eileen Misrahi 
 wrote:

 Hello,

 I will ditto what David said. The way I handle a DVD/CD ROM drive
 is
 using
 an external one. There are plenty out there that shouldn't cost
 more
 than
 $20. The one I have is from my PC netbook days that didn't have an
 internal DVD drive. Just make sure that the drive is compatible for
 Macs.
 HTH. Oh by the way, I purchased an 11 inch MBA with all specs max
 out
 and
 it's well worth the cost if you can do it. I'm in the process of
 loading
 all the software that I can't run on the Mac on the PC side through
 bootcamp and it's doing a terrific job, barring the user's mistakes
 and
 learning Win 8. Good luck and I know you will enjoy the MBA.

 Take care.

 Eileen

 Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2014, at 5:31 AM, David Taylor
> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've gone for the 11 inch myself. I maxed everything out on it and
> find
> it is plenty good enough for me. If you don't need a built in SD
> slot, it
> has everything the 13 inch does, a

Re: Which Mac?

[Phil Halton]

I went for the 13 inch Air as well when I bought back in July last. Battery 
life was a consideration but I also like the feel of the 13 inch better than 
the 11 inch. Ergonomics matter too.

On May 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Tristan  wrote:

> I got the 13 inch for the battery life. 11 inch has 9 hours, compared
> to the 13 inch which has 12. While using a virtual machine -- or --
> Windows in general, it's important to have as much battery life as
> possible, as Windows lacks the excellent power management that OSX
> has. That three hours could mean a large difference in terms of how
> much battery life is taken off from virtual machines.
> 
> On 5/7/14, Kayaker  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You should be all set. But I have to admit I’m puzzled why you went for the
>> 13 inch instead of the 11 inch Air? The screen seems like a silly place to
>> invest dollars if you can’t see it.
>> 
>> Regardless, the specs will serve you well for quite some time for what your
>> stated needs are. Think hard about using bootcamp or VMware Fusion as your
>> Windows solution. Pros and cons both ways. Check the archives here for lots
>> of tips.
>> 
>> Best,
>> —k
>> Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
>> questions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>> 
>>> I opted with the 13 inch MacBook Air early 2014 model. 1.7 GHZ
>>> (turboboost up to 3.3 GHz), 256 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM. I think from what
>>> I've heard so far I should be more than set for either VM or bootcamp.
>>> 
>>> On 5/6/14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
 Do you only get 32 RAM on an iMac? As this is what I have!
 
> On 6 May 2014, at 09:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>  wrote:
> 
> The main constraint I've noticed when running virtual machines is
> Windows
> beats on the hard drive. So my CPU will be taking a nap while Windows
> does
> who-knows-what on the hard drive. In other words, Windows is an I/O
> bound
> not CPU bound process. Sure, if you're doing something CPU intensive on
> there like encoding audio or calculating 10K digits of pi the CPU might
> matter but generally spinning disks have not kept up with the leaps in
> CPU
> performance. So I would drop more money on SSD than CPU. Of course,
> then,
> there's RAM. If you don't have enough the system will swap least used
> chunks of memory to disk to make room for stuff you actually need. This
> swap to disk process can turn any fast drive and CPU to sludge. Now
> days
> machines ship with 4GB of RAM or more and that seems to work pretty
> well
> in most cases. If you're running Windows in a virtual machine that is
> going to suck up a good chunk of RAM and keep it as long as it is
> running.
> So for virtual machine users I'd bump up the RAM to avoid going into
> swaps-a-lot mode. I just upgraded a Mac Mini from 4 to 16GB. Cost was
> about $160 which, as an old computer geezer, is just crazy cheap.
> 
> CB
> 
>> On 5/4/14, 12:46 PM, David Taylor wrote:
>> It's plenty. My MBA runs faster with a VM than any Windows machine I
>> ever
>> had
>>> On 4 May 2014, at 17:31, Tristan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Would the 1.7 GHZ processor in a MacBook Air be enough for a virtual
>>> machine though? Or does most of the dependency rely on RAM.
>>> I don't have much experience with the whole virtual machine front, so
>>> clarification would definitely be welcome. I originally only opted
>>> with the MacBook Pro because of the higher processor statistics, and
>>> glancing at a fully decked out MacBook Air 13 inch and a MacBook Pro
>>> 13 inch retina, they come out to roughly the same price.
>>> 
 On 5/4/14, David Taylor  wrote:
 Many externals just work, even if they don't say they are
 compattible,
 and
 we are needing such drives less and less often now anyway.
 
> On 4 May 2014, at 14:31, Eileen Misrahi 
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I will ditto what David said. The way I handle a DVD/CD ROM drive
> is
> using
> an external one. There are plenty out there that shouldn't cost
> more
> than
> $20. The one I have is from my PC netbook days that didn't have an
> internal DVD drive. Just make sure that the drive is compatible for
> Macs.
> HTH. Oh by the way, I purchased an 11 inch MBA with all specs max
> out
> and
> it's well worth the cost if you can do it. I'm in the process of
> loading
> all the software that I can't run on the Mac on the PC side through
> bootcamp and it's doing a terrific job, barring the user's mistakes
> and
> learning Win 8. Good luck and I know you will enjoy the MBA.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> Eileen
> 

Re: Which Mac?

[Alex Hall]

My business has an elve-inch, but if I ever have the money, I'd do the 
thirteen. The battery is indeed better, but I'd want the SD slot. There is a 
device called a Nifty Mini Drive, which is a micro SD card holder that sits 
flush with the MBA's body. It gives you up to 64gb of storage on the card, but 
is flush so you never even know it's there. Also, the function keys across the 
top are larger on the bigger model, and I use them enough that I'd like them to 
be big instead of tiny.
On May 7, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:

> I went for the 13 inch Air as well when I bought back in July last. Battery 
> life was a consideration but I also like the feel of the 13 inch better than 
> the 11 inch. Ergonomics matter too.
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Tristan  wrote:
> 
>> I got the 13 inch for the battery life. 11 inch has 9 hours, compared
>> to the 13 inch which has 12. While using a virtual machine -- or --
>> Windows in general, it's important to have as much battery life as
>> possible, as Windows lacks the excellent power management that OSX
>> has. That three hours could mean a large difference in terms of how
>> much battery life is taken off from virtual machines.
>> 
>> On 5/7/14, Kayaker  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> You should be all set. But I have to admit I’m puzzled why you went for the
>>> 13 inch instead of the 11 inch Air? The screen seems like a silly place to
>>> invest dollars if you can’t see it.
>>> 
>>> Regardless, the specs will serve you well for quite some time for what your
>>> stated needs are. Think hard about using bootcamp or VMware Fusion as your
>>> Windows solution. Pros and cons both ways. Check the archives here for lots
>>> of tips.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> —k
>>> Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
>>> questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tristan  wrote:
>>> 
 I opted with the 13 inch MacBook Air early 2014 model. 1.7 GHZ
 (turboboost up to 3.3 GHz), 256 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM. I think from what
 I've heard so far I should be more than set for either VM or bootcamp.
 
 On 5/6/14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> Do you only get 32 RAM on an iMac? As this is what I have!
> 
>> On 6 May 2014, at 09:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The main constraint I've noticed when running virtual machines is
>> Windows
>> beats on the hard drive. So my CPU will be taking a nap while Windows
>> does
>> who-knows-what on the hard drive. In other words, Windows is an I/O
>> bound
>> not CPU bound process. Sure, if you're doing something CPU intensive on
>> there like encoding audio or calculating 10K digits of pi the CPU might
>> matter but generally spinning disks have not kept up with the leaps in
>> CPU
>> performance. So I would drop more money on SSD than CPU. Of course,
>> then,
>> there's RAM. If you don't have enough the system will swap least used
>> chunks of memory to disk to make room for stuff you actually need. This
>> swap to disk process can turn any fast drive and CPU to sludge. Now
>> days
>> machines ship with 4GB of RAM or more and that seems to work pretty
>> well
>> in most cases. If you're running Windows in a virtual machine that is
>> going to suck up a good chunk of RAM and keep it as long as it is
>> running.
>> So for virtual machine users I'd bump up the RAM to avoid going into
>> swaps-a-lot mode. I just upgraded a Mac Mini from 4 to 16GB. Cost was
>> about $160 which, as an old computer geezer, is just crazy cheap.
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>>> On 5/4/14, 12:46 PM, David Taylor wrote:
>>> It's plenty. My MBA runs faster with a VM than any Windows machine I
>>> ever
>>> had
 On 4 May 2014, at 17:31, Tristan  wrote:
 
 Would the 1.7 GHZ processor in a MacBook Air be enough for a virtual
 machine though? Or does most of the dependency rely on RAM.
 I don't have much experience with the whole virtual machine front, so
 clarification would definitely be welcome. I originally only opted
 with the MacBook Pro because of the higher processor statistics, and
 glancing at a fully decked out MacBook Air 13 inch and a MacBook Pro
 13 inch retina, they come out to roughly the same price.
 
> On 5/4/14, David Taylor  wrote:
> Many externals just work, even if they don't say they are
> compattible,
> and
> we are needing such drives less and less often now anyway.
> 
>> On 4 May 2014, at 14:31, Eileen Misrahi 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I will ditto what David said. The way I handle a DVD/CD ROM drive
>> is
>> using
>> an external one. There are plenty out there that shouldn't cost
>> more
>> than
>> $20. The one I hav

Re: good o c r for mac

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

The hovercam t5v will not work directly with finereader. You can probably take 
the pictures with their own software for the mac, and when recognize with 
finereader, but it is an old version of the software, we can use, I have tried 
this camera, unfortunately I did not get very good pictures. I would have 
wished that it would have made good pictures for me. Now I have a couple of 
scanners, the best is my canon 9000f mark ii and that has been the cheapest of 
them, I do not know what to say about it.

Best regards Annie.
Den 07/05/2014 kl. 15.34 skrev Caitlyn and Maggie :

> speaking of fine reader pro..
> does the hover cam t5v work with it?  I hope so, because this is what I have 
> for a scanner now.  I have docuscan, but want something else more robust and 
> with possibley better recognition and one that doesn't require an internet 
> connection to do the scanning/processing..
> Thanks!
> Caitlyn
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for a 
>> time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do apologise 
>> for the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show all" button.  
>> However, having read through the help files and having fiddled some more 
>> this morning, I have at least found the .txt option which appeared only 
>> after invoking the "export document" dialog.  Maybe that's what is intended 
>> in the first place.  I will try to look for the "show all' button again.  
>> When I open Finereader with my scanner attached, I see the table from which 
>> I choose the source of the images to be added, i.e. mac, my scanner, and 
>> then to the right just 4 choices of scanning to pdf or word or excel or html 
>> and then I come across new document section and various choices for that but 
>> no "show all" button.  I will ask a sighted friend to have a look for me 
>> too.  I like FineReader Pro very much indeed.  I have plenty to learn but it 
>> is worth it.
>> 
>> Thanks again for your response.
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Andrew,
>>> 
>>> You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
 Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
 choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
 through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor 
 have I found .csv.  
 
 Thank you
 
 Andrew
 On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
> Hello Doug,
> 
> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
> 
> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, 
> CSV, TXT, and RTF.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
> 
>> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount 
>>> too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get 
>>> it for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's 
>>> already made my life easier.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
 
 hi list
 
 can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp 
 scanner on my iMac?
 
 thank you in advance
 
 
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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

The current software is 4.91, I think this is the correct version for both 
models of the focus 40 display.

I have two macs, one is working fine the other one can not connect as you 
describe.

Best regards Annie.
Den 07/05/2014 kl. 02.16 skrev Teresa Cochran :

> The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write to 
> Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a public 
> link.
> 
> hth,
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On May 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
>> My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
>> problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I Mac 
>>> and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer seed, 
>>> using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  I get 
>>> the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean some one, 
>>> does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my Focus Blue?  I 
>>> don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download the driver and if 
>>> so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I write to Apple 
>>> Accessibility?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Teresa Cochran]

Sorry about that. I wasn't aware there had been a further update. I haven't had 
any trouble with 4.57, even since I upgraded to mavericks. I have an older 
Blue, which I got in the summer of 2010. perhaps that may have something to do 
with it.

The way installation of the firmware has worked in the past does unfortunately 
involve Windows. I had to connect the braille display to a Windows computer, as 
the installation file had a windows .exe extension. This is no doubt due to 
freedom Scientific marketing Jaws and other Windows products.

how do you find out about firmware updates? I'm not crazy about waiting till my 
display malfunctions before I need an update.

Teresa

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On May 7, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> The current software is 4.91, I think this is the correct version for both 
> models of the focus 40 display.
> 
> I have two macs, one is working fine the other one can not connect as you 
> describe.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 02.16 skrev Teresa Cochran :
> 
>> The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write to 
>> Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a public 
>> link.
>> 
>> hth,
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>>> My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
>>> problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I 
 Mac and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer 
 seed, using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  I 
 get the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean some 
 one, does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my Focus Blue? 
  I don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download the driver and 
 if so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I write to Apple 
 Accessibility?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Doug Lawlor]

F hi Ann,
Thanks very much for this information. I may look into getting this after all. 
Now like another poster has posted on this list I need a program that can allow 
me to bookmark files as well.
Thanks,


Doug

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2014, at 1:49 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Doug,
> 
> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
> 
> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, CSV, 
> TXT, and RTF.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
>> Thanks,
>> Doug
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount too. 
>>>  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get it for 
>>> $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and it's already 
>>> made my life easier.
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
 
 hi list
 
 can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp scanner on 
 my iMac?
 
 thank you in advance
 
 
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expanding andfolders in list view

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Hi how do you expand the favorites folder in a new finder window.
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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I have windows on my work machine so I could connect my Braille display to that 
in due course and upgrade? So how would I upgrade? for reason alone I will have 
to put windows on my I Mac one of these days!

Kawal.

> On 7 May 2014, at 04:00 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> 
> Sorry about that. I wasn't aware there had been a further update. I haven't 
> had any trouble with 4.57, even since I upgraded to mavericks. I have an 
> older Blue, which I got in the summer of 2010. perhaps that may have 
> something to do with it.
> 
> The way installation of the firmware has worked in the past does 
> unfortunately involve Windows. I had to connect the braille display to a 
> Windows computer, as the installation file had a windows .exe extension. This 
> is no doubt due to freedom Scientific marketing Jaws and other Windows 
> products.
> 
> how do you find out about firmware updates? I'm not crazy about waiting till 
> my display malfunctions before I need an update.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> The current software is 4.91, I think this is the correct version for both 
>> models of the focus 40 display.
>> 
>> I have two macs, one is working fine the other one can not connect as you 
>> describe.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 02.16 skrev Teresa Cochran :
>>> 
>>> The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write to 
>>> Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a public 
>>> link.
>>> 
>>> hth,
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>>> Feynman
>>> 
 On May 6, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
 problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
 
 
> On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I 
> Mac and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer 
> seed, using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  
> I get the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean some 
> one, does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my Focus 
> Blue?  I don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download the 
> driver and if so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I 
> write to Apple Accessibility?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
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Re: expanding andfolders in list view

[Alex Hall]

Command-down arrow in list view will open a folder, command-up arrow will close 
it.
On May 7, 2014, at 11:08 AM, isaac  wrote:

> Hi how do you expand the favorites folder in a new finder window.
> isaac
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Re: expanding andfolders in list view

[David Taylor]

Hi, well, command down arrow not only opens a folder, it puts you in a list of 
the contents of just that folder. Right arrow expands the folder, so you can 
see its contents, but doesn't hide everything else, IE expands the folder.

Cheers
Dave

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Re: Focus Blue 40 and the Mac.

[Teresa Cochran]

If you've ever used the jaws utility for installing drivers, this is the 
program that runs. It will just tell you when to connect your display and use 
you UsB connection to update the firmware.

Hth,
Teresa

Visualize whirled peas.

On May 7, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> I have windows on my work machine so I could connect my Braille display to 
> that in due course and upgrade? So how would I upgrade? for reason alone I 
> will have to put windows on my I Mac one of these days!
> 
> Kawal.
> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 04:00 pm, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry about that. I wasn't aware there had been a further update. I haven't 
>> had any trouble with 4.57, even since I upgraded to mavericks. I have an 
>> older Blue, which I got in the summer of 2010. perhaps that may have 
>> something to do with it.
>> 
>> The way installation of the firmware has worked in the past does 
>> unfortunately involve Windows. I had to connect the braille display to a 
>> Windows computer, as the installation file had a windows .exe extension. 
>> This is no doubt due to freedom Scientific marketing Jaws and other Windows 
>> products.
>> 
>> how do you find out about firmware updates? I'm not crazy about waiting till 
>> my display malfunctions before I need an update.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
>> Feynman
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 7:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> The current software is 4.91, I think this is the correct version for both 
>>> models of the focus 40 display.
>>> 
>>> I have two macs, one is working fine the other one can not connect as you 
>>> describe.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
 Den 07/05/2014 kl. 02.16 skrev Teresa Cochran :
 
 The current firmware version is 4.57. Be sure you have it. You can write 
 to Freedom scientific Tech Support to get a download link. It is not a 
 public link.
 
 hth,
 Teresa
 
 "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
 Feynman
 
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> 
> My suggestion would be to right to Apple Accessibility.  This has been a 
> problem since I got my Macbook Pro in February or March.
> 
> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 4:14 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> A few months ago, I connected my Focus Blue 40 via Bluetooth using my I 
>> Mac and everything connected fine.  Now although I'm running a developer 
>> seed, using Mavericks, my Focus 40 Blue will not connect via Bluetooth.  
>> I get the message, 'can't load braille driver'.  What does that mean 
>> some one, does it mean that I have to download some firmware for my 
>> Focus Blue?  I don't have Windows on my I Mac so can I still download 
>> the driver and if so, how to put it on the Braille display?  Or should I 
>> write to Apple Accessibility?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
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Re: LastPass and Safari - Major Problem!

[Christina C.]

Ok, I stopped using last pass a long time ago because of the focus problem. So, 
I appreciate this helpful info but I don't understand this full screen mode.  I 
have avoided full screen mode in Safari because it keeps saying something about 
spaces and I always end up loosing that page somewhere in "spaces" It also 
seems that when I go into spaces mode and then move over to my messages app my 
computer does all kinds of weird things. For example, I can be typing in the 
message text box and suddenly, I start hearing VO make announcements about 
spaces and my screen completely changes to something else. :(  I have looked 
for a setting to turn spaces off but I never found one. Anyways, I don't 
understand this spaces thing, I don't understand what they are for or the 
benefit of them, nor do I understand why full screen mode in Safari always 
means I go into spaces.

Thanks,
Christina
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On May 5, 2014, at 10:41 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> Are you saying the menus and toolbars are hidden visually? I haven't noticed 
> them being hidden from VO in full-screen mode. you can just press VO-m to go 
> into the menus as usual, and the toolbar is still available as well.
> 
> Teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On May 5, 2014, at 5:35 PM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I tried full screen mode in Safari and I had much better luck. I only 
>> tried one site due to limited time but at least focus stayed there in the 
>> right place without jumping back to last pass. I'm not used to full screen 
>> mode here because it appears to hide things like menu / tool bars but I can 
>> toggle that mode on and off easily enough with the Command-Ctrl f key.
>> 
>> Thanks again for the suggestion.
>> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
>> 
>>> I use all my apps in full-screen mode, so this hasn't been an issue for me. 
>>> I just make sure this is the case in safari, and LastPass works fine. I 
>>> suspect it might be an incompatibility issue with VO and LastPass in Safari.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Steve Holmes  wrote:
>>> 
 I wasn't sure who the culprit was. When I started seeing this problem, 
 Safari had just been upgraded and LastPass had been upgraded fairly 
 recently too. I will have to try the maximize trick next time I need to 
 use it. I'm surprised this doesn't affect people not using VO as it seems 
 to grab keyboard focus. But I have other focus issues with Safari too so 
 why I haven't tried contacting anyone at Last Pass yet.
 
 Thanks again.
 
 On May 1, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Agent086b  wrote:
 
> Hi,
> this has been a problem for a time now. You need to maximise the screen. 
> you can use CTRL + Command and F. Might help if you write to last pass 
> and tell them the problem. The more that write the better.
> Max
> 
> On 2 May 2014, at 10:26 am, Steve Holmes  wrote:
> 
>> I noticed with some recent changes to Safari and LastPass that now 
>> whenever the LastPass plug-in is active, I can't keep focus from jumping 
>> over into the LastPass HTML pane. I never had this problem before. It 
>> makes it impossible to spend any time on a given site such as filling 
>> forms without the cursor suddenly jumping over to the LastPass page. Is 
>> anyone else seeing this? I'm running latest prod version of Mavericks, 
>> Safari and LastPass.
>> 
>> This is so bad now, I might have to dump this and go with 1Password or 
>> something. The iOS version of LastPass is great.
>> 
>> Any ideas?
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Re: FS: Sony deluxe flat panel monitor with built in speakers, Mac and windows compatible...

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

How old is this monitor? I recall these models coming out around a 
decade ago. Also, how does it compare to a current 19" LCD monitor which 
can be had brand new for about $100?


CB

On 5/3/14, 7:20 PM, Cameron Strife wrote:

Hi everybody. Please write off list to purchase... This would be great
for somebody with a mac pro, a mac mini or someone with a pc who needs
a monitor upgrade!

It's a SONY Pro deluxe SDM-X93 19 LCD flat panel monitor with built
in stand and built in stereo speakers. It's in fantastic condition!

$120 via paypal and that includes packing, shipping, tracking, and
full insurance to anywhere in the continental USA. I will only ship to
a confirmed address!

Features include:
* Super-thin bezel width (0.67-inch)
* 19-inch diagonal TFT Active Matrix LCD display
* 1280 x 1024 maximum resolution
* 300 cd/m² brightness
* 600:1 contrast ratio
* 25 ms response time
* 16 million colors
* 170º horizontal viewing angle
* 170º vertical viewing angle
* 28 - 80 KHz horizontal scanning frequency
* 48 - 75 Hz vertical scanning frequency
* Anti-Glare/Protective screen coating
* VESA100 wall mountable
* On Screen Display (OSD) controls
* Plug and Play
* Energy Star compliant
* Integrated power supply
* Built-in stereo speakers

Inputs:
* Two (2) VGA ports
* One (1) DVI-D connector
* Three (3) audio inputs

Thanks,

Cameron.



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Rformatting my Mac

[Deb Lewis]

Hi:
I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
quite getting it right since no options are available.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Deb

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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Chris Apple boy]

Lol the missing step is to boot into the recovery partition.

Regards Chris
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On 07/05/2014 18:50, Deb Lewis wrote:

Hi:
I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
quite getting it right since no options are available.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Deb



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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.  The reason 
everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the MacOS from that 
HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running system.  So, restart 
your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold down the cmd and "r" keys 
simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.  Wait for a minute or so then 
press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it does, then you can erase the HD 
and install the OS to base system.  If VO doesn't start, wait another minute or 
so and try again.  It shouldn't take longer than that to bring up the utilities.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> Hi:
> I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
> first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
> greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
> missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
> I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
> quite getting it right since no options are available.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Deb
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Re: FS: Sony deluxe flat panel monitor with built in speakers, Mac and windows compatible...

[Cameron Strife]

Hi. Honestly, I don't know if it "looks better", but, it has good
specs compared to more current flat panels I checked out online. It's
only been used for a few hours. I'm totally blind and only bought it
so I could have sighted assistance once in a while. I bought it four
years ago but as I said, it's only been turned on for a few hours in
that time...

A sighted friend of mine says that the image quality is very good and
he sees no issues with it.

*Shrugs* That's all I can tell you.

Cameron.






On 5/7/14, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 wrote:
> How old is this monitor? I recall these models coming out around a
> decade ago. Also, how does it compare to a current 19" LCD monitor which
> can be had brand new for about $100?
>
> CB
>
> On 5/3/14, 7:20 PM, Cameron Strife wrote:
>> Hi everybody. Please write off list to purchase... This would be great
>> for somebody with a mac pro, a mac mini or someone with a pc who needs
>> a monitor upgrade!
>>
>>  It's a SONY Pro deluxe SDM-X93 19 LCD flat panel monitor with built
>> in stand and built in stereo speakers. It's in fantastic condition!
>>
>>  $120 via paypal and that includes packing, shipping, tracking, and
>> full insurance to anywhere in the continental USA. I will only ship to
>> a confirmed address!
>>
>> Features include:
>> * Super-thin bezel width (0.67-inch)
>> * 19-inch diagonal TFT Active Matrix LCD display
>> * 1280 x 1024 maximum resolution
>> * 300 cd/m² brightness
>> * 600:1 contrast ratio
>> * 25 ms response time
>> * 16 million colors
>> * 170º horizontal viewing angle
>> * 170º vertical viewing angle
>> * 28 - 80 KHz horizontal scanning frequency
>> * 48 - 75 Hz vertical scanning frequency
>> * Anti-Glare/Protective screen coating
>> * VESA100 wall mountable
>> * On Screen Display (OSD) controls
>> * Plug and Play
>> * Energy Star compliant
>> * Integrated power supply
>> * Built-in stereo speakers
>>
>> Inputs:
>> * Two (2) VGA ports
>> * One (1) DVI-D connector
>> * Three (3) audio inputs
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cameron.
>>
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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Deb Lewis]

OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like starting
to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of feedback.
I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and there's
no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
something after I agreed to everything.


On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.  The
> reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the MacOS
> from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running system.
> So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold down the
> cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.  Wait for
> a minute or so then press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it does, then
> you can erase the HD and install the OS to base system.  If VO doesn't
> start, wait another minute or so and try again.  It shouldn't take longer
> than that to bring up the utilities.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>> I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
>> first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
>> greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
>> missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
>> I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
>> quite getting it right since no options are available.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>
>> Deb
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question about pram

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hi,
I have a keyboard that won't be recognized by my i mac.  I've tried everything 
else suggested except resetting the pram.

I know how to do this, but can't remember exactly which settings, etc, it 
clears.
What will I have to re enter or reset after resetting the pram?

Thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Chris Apple boy]

No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do so. 
You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.


Regards Chris
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On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:

OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like starting
to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of feedback.
I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and there's
no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
something after I agreed to everything.


On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.  The
reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the MacOS
from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running system.
So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold down the
cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.  Wait for
a minute or so then press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it does, then
you can erase the HD and install the OS to base system.  If VO doesn't
start, wait another minute or so and try again.  It shouldn't take longer
than that to bring up the utilities.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:


Hi:
I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
quite getting it right since no options are available.
Thanks in advance for any help.

Deb

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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy  wrote:

> No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do so. You 
> can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.
> 
> Regards Chris
> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
> 
> On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
>> OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
>> agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like starting
>> to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of feedback.
>> I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and there's
>> no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
>> something after I agreed to everything.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.  The
>>> reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the MacOS
>>> from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running system.
>>> So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold down the
>>> cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.  Wait for
>>> a minute or so then press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it does, then
>>> you can erase the HD and install the OS to base system.  If VO doesn't
>>> start, wait another minute or so and try again.  It shouldn't take longer
>>> than that to bring up the utilities.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi:
 I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
 first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
 greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
 missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
 I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
 quite getting it right since no options are available.
 Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Deb Lewis]

I did a restart on VO and it was on an install button. So I took that
and now it says signing into the app store, but it's been saying this
for about 20 minutes. Appears t be totally stuck doing this step. I
also can't exit this. Yikes, panic.

On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy 
> wrote:
>
>> No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do so.
>> You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.
>>
>> Regards Chris
>> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
>>
>> On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
>>> OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
>>> agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like starting
>>> to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of feedback.
>>> I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and there's
>>> no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
>>> something after I agreed to everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,

 As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.  The
 reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the
 MacOS
 from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running
 system.
 So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold down
 the
 cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.  Wait
 for
 a minute or so then press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it does,
 then
 you can erase the HD and install the OS to base system.  If VO doesn't
 start, wait another minute or so and try again.  It shouldn't take
 longer
 than that to bring up the utilities.

 Later...

 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada

 On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> Hi:
> I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
> first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
> greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
> missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
> I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
> quite getting it right since no options are available.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Deb
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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Did it ask you for your Apple ID and password?  If not, that's what it is 
waiting for.  Try the Window Chooser cmd-f2-f2 and see if you can bring focus 
to that area.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> I did a restart on VO and it was on an install button. So I took that
> and now it says signing into the app store, but it's been saying this
> for about 20 minutes. Appears t be totally stuck doing this step. I
> also can't exit this. Yikes, panic.
> 
> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do so.
>>> You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
>>> 
>>> On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
 OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
 agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like starting
 to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of feedback.
 I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and there's
 no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
 something after I agreed to everything.
 
 
 On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.  The
> reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the
> MacOS
> from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running
> system.
> So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold down
> the
> cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.  Wait
> for
> a minute or so then press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it does,
> then
> you can erase the HD and install the OS to base system.  If VO doesn't
> start, wait another minute or so and try again.  It shouldn't take
> longer
> than that to bring up the utilities.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
> 
>> Hi:
>> I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
>> first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
>> greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
>> missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
>> I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
>> quite getting it right since no options are available.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>> 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

thanks.
It sure doesn't seem to give as good a picture as a flatbed scanner, for sure.
Oh, well, so much for that.
Cait

On May 7, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> The hovercam t5v will not work directly with finereader. You can probably 
> take the pictures with their own software for the mac, and when recognize 
> with finereader, but it is an old version of the software, we can use, I have 
> tried this camera, unfortunately I did not get very good pictures. I would 
> have wished that it would have made good pictures for me. Now I have a couple 
> of scanners, the best is my canon 9000f mark ii and that has been the 
> cheapest of them, I do not know what to say about it.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 15.34 skrev Caitlyn and Maggie :
> 
>> speaking of fine reader pro..
>> does the hover cam t5v work with it?  I hope so, because this is what I have 
>> for a scanner now.  I have docuscan, but want something else more robust and 
>> with possibley better recognition and one that doesn't require an internet 
>> connection to do the scanning/processing..
>> Thanks!
>> Caitlyn
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for a 
>>> time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do apologise 
>>> for the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show all" button.  
>>> However, having read through the help files and having fiddled some more 
>>> this morning, I have at least found the .txt option which appeared only 
>>> after invoking the "export document" dialog.  Maybe that's what is intended 
>>> in the first place.  I will try to look for the "show all' button again.  
>>> When I open Finereader with my scanner attached, I see the table from which 
>>> I choose the source of the images to be added, i.e. mac, my scanner, and 
>>> then to the right just 4 choices of scanning to pdf or word or excel or 
>>> html and then I come across new document section and various choices for 
>>> that but no "show all" button.  I will ask a sighted friend to have a look 
>>> for me too.  I like FineReader Pro very much indeed.  I have plenty to 
>>> learn but it is worth it.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again for your response.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Andrew,
 
 You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
> Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
> choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
> through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor 
> have I found .csv.  
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Andrew
> On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Doug,
>> 
>> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
>> 
>> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, 
>> CSV, TXT, and RTF.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>>> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
 
 I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa discount 
 too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% discount you get 
 it for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a couple days ago and 
 it's already made my life easier.
 
 
> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
> 
> hi list
> 
> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp 
> scanner on my iMac?
> 
> thank you in advance
> 
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Re: keyboard question

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hi,
Yes, I've tried other keyboards and they get recognized.

I did try this particular one with my mac air as well and got the keyboard 
assistant.  I went through the assistant and after I followed all the prompts, 
it said that the keyboard was ready to use. However, when I tried to use it, 
not all of the keys were recognized.  For example, I was unable to use the vo 
keys.

I haven't tried resetting the pram on my imac yet, so I might try that.

At this point, I am beginning to think that wanting an ergonomic keyboard might 
just be too much trouble.
boo.
Cait

On May 6, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:

> Hi Cait, 
> This all sounds very strange. I have a late 2009 white Macbook and when I 
> plug inan external keyboard I get the setup assistant here. Your keyboard may 
> be the problem. Have you tried a different keyboard on your iMac ? What 
> happens then? 
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Doug,
>> My i mac is a 2010 imac, i7, 16 g of ram, if that makes any difference.  I'm 
>> running mavericks, 10.9.2 or whatever the latest incarnation is at the 
>> moment.
>> 
>> I have tried everything I can think of to get this blasted keyboard to work!
>> 
>> I read an an article yesterday teling how to go into the user library and 
>> get rid of a particular plist file, which I did, but that only helped 
>> somewhat.  The file was com.apple.hitoolbox.  After I got rid of that and 
>> rebooted, some keys were recognized, but not as what they were supposed to 
>> do.  For example, command tab would move right, like the right arrow.
>> 
>> Just as an aside, I did plug the keyboard into my new mac air that I just 
>> got for Christmas and got the keyboard assistant.  AFter it claimed that the 
>> keyboard was recognized and said I could use the keyboard, again, the 
>> keyboard wasn't working as expected.  vo right arrow was acting like enter, 
>> for example.
>> 
>> Perhaps this microsoft keyboard is just wanky or something!
>> I sure wish it would work, because it's comfy to type on..  But it's not 
>> worth the hassle  unless I can figure out something relatively soon..
>> Thanks for any help!
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac? 
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
 wrote:
 
 At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
 Any ideas as to my question?
 Cait
 
> On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
> 
> Wheir did you get the keyboard from?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i 
>> mac.  the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.
>> 
>> when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like 
>> nothing was plugged into it at all.
>> 
>> I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.
>> 
>> I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.
>> 
>> We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the 
>> keyboard assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.
>> 
>> My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.
>> 
>> All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac 
>> keyboard.
>> 
>> what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix 
>> this?
>> 
>> would a clean install fix this?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> Caitlyn
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sudden mail problem

[Christina C.]

Hello listers,

I do not know what is going on. This just started today. I have not changed 
anything. I do have a gmail account and I'm using the apple mail client on 
latest version of Mac. Nothing that I do in my mail program is sticking. If I 
delete a message from my inbox, it appears that the message was moved to my 
trash label/folder. However, a few minutes later, the email re-appears back in 
my inbox. This is happening in all of my folders. Also, if I move an email to 
another folder/label it also re-appears a few minutes later back where it 
started. :( I have shut down apple mail several times, I have completely shut 
down my computer for an hour and rebooted everything. The problem has not gone 
away. :( I have checked my wifi connection and that seems to be working 
perfectly fine.

Thanks for any help,
Christina
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Re: keyboard question

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

I haven't been following all of this thread but a common issue with 
non-Apple keyboards is the command and option keys get swapped. So when 
you say the VO keys didn't work, you might want to try control+command 
instead of control+option to test if those keys have shifted around.


CB

On 5/7/14, 3:42 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:

Hi,
Yes, I've tried other keyboards and they get recognized.

I did try this particular one with my mac air as well and got the keyboard 
assistant.  I went through the assistant and after I followed all the prompts, 
it said that the keyboard was ready to use. However, when I tried to use it, 
not all of the keys were recognized.  For example, I was unable to use the vo 
keys.

I haven't tried resetting the pram on my imac yet, so I might try that.

At this point, I am beginning to think that wanting an ergonomic keyboard might 
just be too much trouble.
boo.
Cait

On May 6, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:


Hi Cait,
This all sounds very strange. I have a late 2009 white Macbook and when I plug 
inan external keyboard I get the setup assistant here. Your keyboard may be the 
problem. Have you tried a different keyboard on your iMac ? What happens then?

Doug


Sent from my iPhone


On May 3, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

Hi Doug,
My i mac is a 2010 imac, i7, 16 g of ram, if that makes any difference.  I'm 
running mavericks, 10.9.2 or whatever the latest incarnation is at the moment.

I have tried everything I can think of to get this blasted keyboard to work!

I read an an article yesterday teling how to go into the user library and get 
rid of a particular plist file, which I did, but that only helped somewhat.  
The file was com.apple.hitoolbox.  After I got rid of that and rebooted, some 
keys were recognized, but not as what they were supposed to do.  For example, 
command tab would move right, like the right arrow.

Just as an aside, I did plug the keyboard into my new mac air that I just got 
for Christmas and got the keyboard assistant.  AFter it claimed that the 
keyboard was recognized and said I could use the keyboard, again, the keyboard 
wasn't working as expected.  vo right arrow was acting like enter, for example.

Perhaps this microsoft keyboard is just wanky or something!
I sure wish it would work, because it's comfy to type on..  But it's not worth 
the hassle  unless I can figure out something relatively soon..
Thanks for any help!
Cait


On May 3, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:

What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac?

Doug

Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
Any ideas as to my question?
Cait


On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:

Wheir did you get the keyboard from?

Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

Hi,
I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i mac.  the 
tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.

when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like 
nothing was plugged into it at all.

I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.

I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.

We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the keyboard 
assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.

My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.

All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac keyboard.

what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix this?

would a clean install fix this?

thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Deb Lewis]

Yes, it was looking for the ID and wasn't bringing focus to it. Next
it didn't recognize the Apple ID although I confirmed it using another
device. I've backed out of all and starting over. I actually didn't do
erase first last time and think this is actually what needs to happen.
I'm OK to proceed with that assuming I'm erasing the MacinTosh HD from
the options? But not sure what to do about my apple ID. Definitely
typed correctly and all that. My ID changed at some point so I even
tried entering the previous one which is still active. It says it's an
ID but not one I purchased Mavrix with. But Mavrix was free, LOL. I
know what they mean though.
I was able to use this ID to go into the App Store and verify my purchases etc.
Didn't think this would become this complicated.
To confirm, I want to erase the Macintosh HD? And any thoughts about
how to get it to accept this ID which I know is valid.
Can I restore ack to Mountain Lion which came on the disk and then
upgrade again if necessary? Just
trying not to get caught with no PC at all somewhere down the line.
Deb



On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Did it ask you for your Apple ID and password?  If not, that's what it is
> waiting for.  Try the Window Chooser cmd-f2-f2 and see if you can bring
> focus to that area.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>
>> I did a restart on VO and it was on an install button. So I took that
>> and now it says signing into the app store, but it's been saying this
>> for about 20 minutes. Appears t be totally stuck doing this step. I
>> also can't exit this. Yikes, panic.
>>
>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do
 so.
 You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.

 Regards Chris
 Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!

 On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
> OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
> agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like starting
> to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of feedback.
> I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and there's
> no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
> something after I agreed to everything.
>
>
> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.
>> The
>> reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the
>> MacOS
>> from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running
>> system.
>> So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold
>> down
>> the
>> cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.
>> Wait
>> for
>> a minute or so then press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it
>> does,
>> then
>> you can erase the HD and install the OS to base system.  If VO
>> doesn't
>> start, wait another minute or so and try again.  It shouldn't take
>> longer
>> than that to bring up the utilities.
>>
>> Later...
>>
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>
>> On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>> I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
>>> first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
>>> greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
>>> missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO
>>> because
>>> I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
>>> quite getting it right since no options are available.
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>
>>> Deb
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Headphone jack Not Working

[Janet Ingber]

Hi Everyone,

The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several sets 
of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part that  goes 
into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and that works fine. 
 Any ideas?

Many thanks,
Janet

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Fwd: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
> 
> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should try 
> removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair it 
> again. If this doesn’t work, you can download the latest Focus firmware from 
> the following location:
>  
> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
>  
> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
>  
> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
> 
> Before You Begin
> 
> Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
> Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
> Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware version. The 
> unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns on.
> Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a location 
> on your computer where you can easily find it later
>  
> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
> 
>  
> Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file (ZIP) 
> to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for example, 
> your Downloads folder.
> Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for example, 
> your Downloads folder.
> Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for the unit 
> to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow the messages 
> to locate the driver.
> Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages to 
> update the firmware.
>  
> 
> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
> 
>  
> 
> When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to close 
> and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
>  
> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button to 
> display firmware information.
>  
> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
>  
> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous correspondence 
> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>  
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dennis G. Godin
> Technical Support Specialist
> Freedom Scientific, Inc
> 727-803-8600
> supp...@freedomscientific.com
> www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
>  
> Connect with us:
>   
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Re: keyboard question

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Chris,
I did try using alt tab to go between the finder and mail, which were the two 
open apps.  It didn’t work.  So, I am assuming that the keys just don’t work, 
rather then them being switched.
I am aware that with non mac keyboards, the command and option keys can get 
switched around. If this does happen, is there a way to remap them to the  mac 
ones?  This is, of course, assuming I can get the stupid keyboard working on my 
desk top machine?
Thanks!
Cait

On May 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> I haven't been following all of this thread but a common issue with non-Apple 
> keyboards is the command and option keys get swapped. So when you say the VO 
> keys didn't work, you might want to try control+command instead of 
> control+option to test if those keys have shifted around.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 5/7/14, 3:42 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Yes, I've tried other keyboards and they get recognized.
>> 
>> I did try this particular one with my mac air as well and got the keyboard 
>> assistant.  I went through the assistant and after I followed all the 
>> prompts, it said that the keyboard was ready to use. However, when I tried 
>> to use it, not all of the keys were recognized.  For example, I was unable 
>> to use the vo keys.
>> 
>> I haven't tried resetting the pram on my imac yet, so I might try that.
>> 
>> At this point, I am beginning to think that wanting an ergonomic keyboard 
>> might just be too much trouble.
>> boo.
>> Cait
>> 
>> On May 6, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Cait,
>>> This all sounds very strange. I have a late 2009 white Macbook and when I 
>>> plug inan external keyboard I get the setup assistant here. Your keyboard 
>>> may be the problem. Have you tried a different keyboard on your iMac ? What 
>>> happens then?
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 3, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Doug,
 My i mac is a 2010 imac, i7, 16 g of ram, if that makes any difference.  
 I'm running mavericks, 10.9.2 or whatever the latest incarnation is at the 
 moment.
 
 I have tried everything I can think of to get this blasted keyboard to 
 work!
 
 I read an an article yesterday teling how to go into the user library and 
 get rid of a particular plist file, which I did, but that only helped 
 somewhat.  The file was com.apple.hitoolbox.  After I got rid of that and 
 rebooted, some keys were recognized, but not as what they were supposed to 
 do.  For example, command tab would move right, like the right arrow.
 
 Just as an aside, I did plug the keyboard into my new mac air that I just 
 got for Christmas and got the keyboard assistant.  AFter it claimed that 
 the keyboard was recognized and said I could use the keyboard, again, the 
 keyboard wasn't working as expected.  vo right arrow was acting like 
 enter, for example.
 
 Perhaps this microsoft keyboard is just wanky or something!
 I sure wish it would work, because it's comfy to type on..  But it's not 
 worth the hassle  unless I can figure out something relatively soon..
 Thanks for any help!
 Cait
 
> On May 3, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
> 
> What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac?
> 
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
>> Any ideas as to my question?
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wheir did you get the keyboard from?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i 
 mac.  the tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.
 
 when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted 
 like nothing was plugged into it at all.
 
 I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.
 
 I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.
 
 We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the 
 keyboard assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.
 
 My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.
 
 All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac 
 keyboard.
 
 what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix 
 this?
 
 would a clean install fix this?
 
 thanks,
 Caitlyn
 
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Re: sudden mail problem

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

This is probably a google issue rather then an apple mail one.
I assume you are using imap with your gmail account?
I had problems like this with my own gmail account and apple mail til I 
switched my gamil to pop instead of imap.
Cait

On May 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

> Hello listers,
> 
> I do not know what is going on. This just started today. I have not changed 
> anything. I do have a gmail account and I'm using the apple mail client on 
> latest version of Mac. Nothing that I do in my mail program is sticking. If I 
> delete a message from my inbox, it appears that the message was moved to my 
> trash label/folder. However, a few minutes later, the email re-appears back 
> in my inbox. This is happening in all of my folders. Also, if I move an email 
> to another folder/label it also re-appears a few minutes later back where it 
> started. :( I have shut down apple mail several times, I have completely shut 
> down my computer for an hour and rebooted everything. The problem has not 
> gone away. :( I have checked my wifi connection and that seems to be working 
> perfectly fine.
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
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Re: Headphone jack Not Working

[Ray Foret Jr]

Yep, you'll need to have the entire logic board replaced.  No way to put a new 
jack on because the jack is in fact printed directly in to the logic board.  
Sorry for the bad news, but, that's the long and the short of that.

Very expensive to do that by the way.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On May 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> 
> The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several sets 
> of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part that  goes 
> into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and that works 
> fine.  Any ideas?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Janet
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Re: keyboard question

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

You could do VO-k to have voiceover tell you which key it thinks you 
pressed. Might give a clue as to what's getting messed up.


CB

On 5/7/14, 4:12 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:

Chris,
I did try using alt tab to go between the finder and mail, which were the two 
open apps.  It didn’t work.  So, I am assuming that the keys just don’t work, 
rather then them being switched.
I am aware that with non mac keyboards, the command and option keys can get 
switched around. If this does happen, is there a way to remap them to the  mac 
ones?  This is, of course, assuming I can get the stupid keyboard working on my 
desk top machine?
Thanks!
Cait

On May 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:


I haven't been following all of this thread but a common issue with non-Apple 
keyboards is the command and option keys get swapped. So when you say the VO 
keys didn't work, you might want to try control+command instead of 
control+option to test if those keys have shifted around.

CB

On 5/7/14, 3:42 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:

Hi,
Yes, I've tried other keyboards and they get recognized.

I did try this particular one with my mac air as well and got the keyboard 
assistant.  I went through the assistant and after I followed all the prompts, 
it said that the keyboard was ready to use. However, when I tried to use it, 
not all of the keys were recognized.  For example, I was unable to use the vo 
keys.

I haven't tried resetting the pram on my imac yet, so I might try that.

At this point, I am beginning to think that wanting an ergonomic keyboard might 
just be too much trouble.
boo.
Cait

On May 6, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:


Hi Cait,
This all sounds very strange. I have a late 2009 white Macbook and when I plug 
inan external keyboard I get the setup assistant here. Your keyboard may be the 
problem. Have you tried a different keyboard on your iMac ? What happens then?

Doug


Sent from my iPhone


On May 3, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

Hi Doug,
My i mac is a 2010 imac, i7, 16 g of ram, if that makes any difference.  I'm 
running mavericks, 10.9.2 or whatever the latest incarnation is at the moment.

I have tried everything I can think of to get this blasted keyboard to work!

I read an an article yesterday teling how to go into the user library and get 
rid of a particular plist file, which I did, but that only helped somewhat.  
The file was com.apple.hitoolbox.  After I got rid of that and rebooted, some 
keys were recognized, but not as what they were supposed to do.  For example, 
command tab would move right, like the right arrow.

Just as an aside, I did plug the keyboard into my new mac air that I just got 
for Christmas and got the keyboard assistant.  AFter it claimed that the 
keyboard was recognized and said I could use the keyboard, again, the keyboard 
wasn't working as expected.  vo right arrow was acting like enter, for example.

Perhaps this microsoft keyboard is just wanky or something!
I sure wish it would work, because it's comfy to type on..  But it's not worth 
the hassle  unless I can figure out something relatively soon..
Thanks for any help!
Cait


On May 3, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:

What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac?

Doug

Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

At  an office supply store near me.  It's called Beatty's Basics.
Any ideas as to my question?
Cait


On May 2, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Isaac Hebert  wrote:

Wheir did you get the keyboard from?

Sent from my iPhone


On May 2, 2014, at 12:31 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie  
wrote:

Hi,
I just bought an ergonomic keyboard that's supposed to work with my i mac.  the 
tech guy tried it out on his mac at the store and it worked.

when I got it home and plugged it into my machine, my machine acted like 
nothing was plugged into it at all.

I restareted my mac and stil l nothing.

I tried all the usb ports and still nothing.

We tried plugging the keyboard into my husband's mac and got the keyboard 
assistant, asking us to help identify the new keyboard.

My mac has no problems with my mac keyboard.

All my other usb devices work fine in all the ports and so does my mac keyboard.

what could be causing this, and more importantly, what can I do to fix this?

would a clean install fix this?

thanks,
Caitlyn

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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

You shouldn't need to go to Mountain Lion first.  Apple should have a digital 
record of your computer being acceptable to use Mavericks.  Try restarting your 
Mac again, holding down the cmd and "r" keys" thus ensuring into recovery mode. 
 Click on the Disk Utility option and continue.  Yes, it is the Macintosh HD 
you wish to erase.  Erase it again with the default options of Mac OS Extended 
Journaled as your formatting preference.  Quit out of Disk Utility after it's 
done which should take you back to the screen where you can choose to 
re-install OS X.  Choose that option and continue.  Agree to everything except 
your first born, then if it takes longer than about 3 seconds to come up with 
your Apple ID entry window, use the Window Chooser to find it.  Enter your 
Apple ID and password as usual and see what happens.  I'm wondering if the wait 
caused an issue.  Hopefully, that does the trick, otherwise we're going to need 
to do something in a round-about way.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> Yes, it was looking for the ID and wasn't bringing focus to it. Next
> it didn't recognize the Apple ID although I confirmed it using another
> device. I've backed out of all and starting over. I actually didn't do
> erase first last time and think this is actually what needs to happen.
> I'm OK to proceed with that assuming I'm erasing the MacinTosh HD from
> the options? But not sure what to do about my apple ID. Definitely
> typed correctly and all that. My ID changed at some point so I even
> tried entering the previous one which is still active. It says it's an
> ID but not one I purchased Mavrix with. But Mavrix was free, LOL. I
> know what they mean though.
> I was able to use this ID to go into the App Store and verify my purchases 
> etc.
> Didn't think this would become this complicated.
> To confirm, I want to erase the Macintosh HD? And any thoughts about
> how to get it to accept this ID which I know is valid.
> Can I restore ack to Mountain Lion which came on the disk and then
> upgrade again if necessary? Just
> trying not to get caught with no PC at all somewhere down the line.
> Deb
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Did it ask you for your Apple ID and password?  If not, that's what it is
>> waiting for.  Try the Window Chooser cmd-f2-f2 and see if you can bring
>> focus to that area.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>>> I did a restart on VO and it was on an install button. So I took that
>>> and now it says signing into the app store, but it's been saying this
>>> for about 20 minutes. Appears t be totally stuck doing this step. I
>>> also can't exit this. Yikes, panic.
>>> 
>>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy 
 wrote:
 
> No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do
> so.
> You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.
> 
> Regards Chris
> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
> 
> On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
>> OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
>> agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like starting
>> to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of feedback.
>> I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and there's
>> no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
>> something after I agreed to everything.
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.
>>> The
>>> reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running the
>>> MacOS
>>> from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running
>>> system.
>>> So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold
>>> down
>>> the
>>> cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.
>>> Wait
>>> for
>>> a minute or so then press cmd-f5 and see if VO activates.  If it
>>> does,
>>> then
>>> you can erase the HD and install the OS to base system.  If VO
>>> doesn't
>>> start, wait another minute or so and try again.  It shouldn't take
>>> longer
>>> than that to bring up the utilities.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi:
 I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
 first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
 greyed out even though I've selected

Re: Headphone jack Not Working

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

When your headphones are plugged in, if you go to System Preferences 
then Sound and then the Output tab, does the output device say Internal 
Speakers or Headphones? If it says Headphones then at least the Mac has 
noticed that headphones are plugged in. In that same control panel make 
sure the mute checkbox is not checked. The setting sticks so muting the 
headphones doesn't mute the speakers and vice versa. If it says anything 
about "Digital Out" then somehow the Mac things you've got a fiber optic 
cable connected instead of headphones. That can sometimes be because of 
a stuck switch inside the headphone jack or a software thing. One way 
folks have cleared the digital optical output sticking is by having the 
Sound Output system preference open while switching from headphones to 
speakers and back. Apparently it polls the headphone port and can get it 
un-confused, if it's just a software thing. If it's a hardware things 
you might be in the land of toothpicks and other dangerous "fixes".


CB

On 5/7/14, 4:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
Yep, you'll need to have the entire logic board replaced.  No way to 
put a new jack on because the jack is in fact printed directly in to 
the logic board.  Sorry for the bad news, but, that's the long and the 
short of that.


Very expensive to do that by the way.


Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
blind built-in!


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On May 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Janet Ingber > wrote:



Hi Everyone,

The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried 
several sets of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the 
the part that  goes into the computer is all the way in.  I have a 
USB headset and that works fine.  Any ideas?


Many thanks,
Janet

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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Jan Blüher, visorApps]

Hallo Kawal,

thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you please ask 
them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have one, then just to 
have their statement ...

Greetings

Jan

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tax number: DE281706766



Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :

> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
>> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
>> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
>> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
>> 
>> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
>> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
>> try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair it 
>> again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus firmware from 
>> the following location:
>>  
>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
>>  
>> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
>>  
>> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
>> 
>> Before You Begin
>> 
>> Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>> Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>> Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware version. The 
>> unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns on.
>> Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a location 
>> on your computer where you can easily find it later
>>  
>> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
>> 
>>  
>> Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file (ZIP) 
>> to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for example, 
>> your Downloads folder.
>> Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for example, 
>> your Downloads folder.
>> Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for the unit 
>> to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow the 
>> messages to locate the driver.
>> Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages to 
>> update the firmware.
>>  
>> 
>> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to close 
>> and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
>>  
>> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button to 
>> display firmware information.
>>  
>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
>> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
>>  
>> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous correspondence 
>> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>>  
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Dennis G. Godin
>> Technical Support Specialist
>> Freedom Scientific, Inc
>> 727-803-8600
>> supp...@freedomscientific.com
>> www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
>>  
>> Connect with us:
>>   
>>
>>  
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Fwd: Update from Voice Dream

[CJ Daniel]

Hi,

I thought this might be of interest to IOS & DAISY book readers.  Keep in mind 
that the app works well with BookShare.

CJ



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Winston Chen 
> Subject: Update from Voice Dream
> Date: May 7, 2014 at 1:59:43 AM MST
> To: 
> Reply-To: Winston Chen 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Voice Dream Reader 3.0 was released recently after many months in the making. 
> We went from 2.X to 3.X, because the new version represents a big change in 
> the app's evolution.
> 
> The biggest change is support for graphics, starting with PDF. This required 
> a rewrite of the guts. Before 3.0, Voice Dream Reader threw away all original 
> files after extracting text from them. Now, you can read PDF files in the 
> original layout with voice and text synchronization. Try swiping right from 
> the left edge of the screen: you can switch between text-only view and 
> original layout view effortlessly. 
> 
> Secondly, the highly regarded Ivona voices are available. Now, with Acapela, 
> NeoSpeech, Ivona, and iOS's built-in Nuance voices, Voice Dream Reader offers 
> more voices -- and at lower prices -- than any other text-to-speech product 
> in the market.
> 
> Finally, we now support almost every major variant of DAISY around the world: 
> DAISY 3.0 and 2.02 in full-text or full-audio mode. Expensive dedicated DAISY 
> reading devices can be hauled to museums.
> 
> Our work continues. Right now, we're busy working on supporting graphics for 
> eBooks, so that EPUB and DAISY books with images can be displayed in Voice 
> Dream. The built-in Web Browser will be rewritten so that you can listen to 
> web pages in it directly.
> 
> Since Voice Dream Reader came out 2 years ago, we have never charged for 
> upgrades. We want to continue adding substantial new features and release 
> them to everyone for free. You can help us continue this journey, and benefit 
> everyone around the world who reads differently.
> 
> How?
> 
> Spread the word. This is the single most important thing you can do to help 
> us. Tell your friends and colleagues about Voice Dream Reader. The app will 
> be half-priced from Wednesday May 7 to Sunday May 11. So take advantage of 
> this opportunity!
> 
> Many people in the past asked if they can donate to Voice Dream to fund 
> development. I wasn't comfortable with that. Now, on the verge of hiring a 
> developer to help build new features faster, I had a change of heart. I 
> created a Paypal page to accept donations:
> 
> https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=3SV2PVR5JZJVQ
> 
> Please, do it only if you can afford it. And donate based on the value you're 
> getting from the app, whether it is 1 dollar or 10 dollars a month. The 
> donated funds will be set aside and used only for developing features and 
> enhancements that will be released for free. 
> 
> Thanks for your support and feedback over these past 2 years. Reading is for 
> everyone, no matter how you read. We have a long way to go before we get 
> there. You're a part of that journey.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Winston Chen
> Founder, Voice Dream
> wins...@voicedream.com
> www.voicedream.com
> 
> ==
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Do you think they will have one?  I will ask as this would solve my lack of 
windows computer as well!
On 7 May 2014, at 21:30, Jan Blüher, visorApps  wrote:

> Hallo Kawal,
> 
> thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you please 
> ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have one, then 
> just to have their statement ...
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
> Download on the App Store:
> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
> 
> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
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> 
> tax number: DE281706766
> 
> 
> 
> Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
>>> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
>>> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
>>> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
>>> 
>>> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
>>> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
>>> try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair 
>>> it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus firmware 
>>> from the following location:
>>>  
>>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
>>>  
>>> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
>>>  
>>> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
>>> 
>>> Before You Begin
>>> 
>>> * Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>>> * Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>>> * Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware 
>>> version. The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns 
>>> on.
>>> * Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a 
>>> location on your computer where you can easily find it later
>>> *  
>>> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
>>> 
>>>  
>>> * Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file 
>>> (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for 
>>> example, your Downloads folder.
>>> * Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
>>> example, your Downloads folder.
>>> * Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for 
>>> the unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow 
>>> the messages to locate the driver.
>>> * Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages 
>>> to update the firmware.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> * When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to 
>>> close and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
>>>  
>>> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button to 
>>> display firmware information.
>>>  
>>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
>>> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
>>>  
>>> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous correspondence 
>>> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>>>  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Dennis G. Godin
>>> Technical Support Specialist
>>> Freedom Scientific, Inc
>>> 727-803-8600
>>> supp...@freedomscientific.com
>>> www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
>>>  
>>> Connect with us:
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi guys 
Does anybody know if this Focus 40 thing you guys are talking about affects 
Focus 14 Blues? I'm not going to be really pleased if I have to go find a 
Windows computer for updating my practically brand new Focus 14. 

Regards, 
Gigi 

On May 7, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:

> Do you think they will have one?  I will ask as this would solve my lack of 
> windows computer as well!
> On 7 May 2014, at 21:30, Jan Blüher, visorApps  wrote:
> 
>> Hallo Kawal,
>> 
>> thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you please 
>> ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have one, then 
>> just to have their statement ...
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
>> ---
>> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
>> Download on the App Store:
>> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
>> ---
>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>> D-01187 Dresden
>> Germany
>> 
>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>> web: http://visorApps.com
>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>> 
>> tax number: DE281706766
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
 Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
 To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
 Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
 
 Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
 braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
 try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair 
 it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus firmware 
 from the following location:
 
 https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
 
 Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
 
 Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
 
 Before You Begin
 
* Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
* Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
* Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware 
 version. The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns 
 on.
* Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a 
 location on your computer where you can easily find it later
*  
 Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
 
 
* Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file 
 (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for 
 example, your Downloads folder.
* Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
 example, your Downloads folder.
* Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for 
 the unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow 
 the messages to locate the driver.
* Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages 
 to update the firmware.
 
 
 IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
 
 
 
* When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to 
 close and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
 
 To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button to 
 display firmware information.
 
 If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
 please don't hesitate to contact us. 
 
 If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous 
 correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist 
 you.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Dennis G. Godin
 Technical Support Specialist
 Freedom Scientific, Inc
 727-803-8600
 supp...@freedomscientific.com
 www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
 
 Connect with us:
 
 
 
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

You will know if you try and connect your new Focus via bluetooth via the Mac.  
I've written to see if they have a Mac installer!
On 7 May 2014, at 21:50, Eugenia Firth  wrote:

> Hi guys 
> Does anybody know if this Focus 40 thing you guys are talking about affects 
> Focus 14 Blues? I'm not going to be really pleased if I have to go find a 
> Windows computer for updating my practically brand new Focus 14. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
>> Do you think they will have one?  I will ask as this would solve my lack of 
>> windows computer as well!
>> On 7 May 2014, at 21:30, Jan Blüher, visorApps  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hallo Kawal,
>>> 
>>> thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you please 
>>> ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have one, then 
>>> just to have their statement ...
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
>>> Download on the App Store:
>>> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
>>> ---
>>> Dr. Jan Blüher
>>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>>> D-01187 Dresden
>>> Germany
>>> 
>>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>>> web: http://visorApps.com
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
>>> 
>>> tax number: DE281706766
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
>>> 
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
> 
> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
> try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair 
> it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus 
> firmware from the following location:
> 
> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
> 
> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
> 
> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
> 
> Before You Begin
> 
>   * Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>   * Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>   * Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware 
> version. The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns 
> on.
>   * Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a 
> location on your computer where you can easily find it later
>   *  
> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
> 
> 
>   * Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file 
> (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for 
> example, your Downloads folder.
>   * Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
> example, your Downloads folder.
>   * Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for 
> the unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow 
> the messages to locate the driver.
>   * Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages 
> to update the firmware.
> 
> 
> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
> 
> 
> 
>   * When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to 
> close and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
> 
> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button 
> to display firmware information.
> 
> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
> 
> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous 
> correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist 
> you.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dennis G. Godin
> Technical Support Specialist
> Freedom Scientific, Inc
> 727-803-8600
> supp...@freedomscientific.com
> www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
> 
> Connect with us:
> 
> 
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I am sure there is no solution for upgrading on the mac.

It is one thing that I do not like with the focus 40. Another thing is that you 
can not ajust firmness in the mac, you must connect to windows if you wants to 
have it set to 100 %.

Thank you for providing the link.

Best regards Annie.
Den 07/05/2014 kl. 22.30 skrev Jan Blüher, visorApps :

> Hallo Kawal,
> 
> thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you please 
> ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have one, then 
> just to have their statement ...
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
> Download on the App Store:
> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
> ---
> Dr. Jan Blüher
> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
> Bayreuther Str. 2
> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
> 
> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
> web: http://visorApps.com
> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
> 
> tax number: DE281706766
> 
> 
> 
> Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
>>> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
>>> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
>>> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
>>> 
>>> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
>>> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
>>> try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair 
>>> it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus firmware 
>>> from the following location:
>>>  
>>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
>>>  
>>> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
>>>  
>>> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
>>> 
>>> Before You Begin
>>> 
>>> Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>>> Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>>> Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware version. The 
>>> unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns on.
>>> Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a location 
>>> on your computer where you can easily find it later
>>>  
>>> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file (ZIP) 
>>> to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for example, 
>>> your Downloads folder.
>>> Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
>>> example, your Downloads folder.
>>> Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for the 
>>> unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow the 
>>> messages to locate the driver.
>>> Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages to 
>>> update the firmware.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to close 
>>> and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
>>>  
>>> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button to 
>>> display firmware information.
>>>  
>>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
>>> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
>>>  
>>> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous correspondence 
>>> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>>>  
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Dennis G. Godin
>>> Technical Support Specialist
>>> Freedom Scientific, Inc
>>> 727-803-8600
>>> supp...@freedomscientific.com
>>> www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
>>>  
>>> Connect with us:
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Has anyone got this link to work?  When I open it in the Mac it says HTML empty.
On 7 May 2014, at 22:00, Annie Skov Nielsen  wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> I am sure there is no solution for upgrading on the mac.
> 
> It is one thing that I do not like with the focus 40. Another thing is that 
> you can not ajust firmness in the mac, you must connect to windows if you 
> wants to have it set to 100 %.
> 
> Thank you for providing the link.
> 
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 22.30 skrev Jan Blüher, visorApps :
> 
>> Hallo Kawal,
>> 
>> thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you please 
>> ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have one, then 
>> just to have their statement ...
>> 
>> Greetings
>> 
>> Jan
>> 
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>> 
>> Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
 From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
 Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
 To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
 Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
 
 Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
 braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
 try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair 
 it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus firmware 
 from the following location:
  
 https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
  
 Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
  
 Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
 
 Before You Begin
 
* Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
* Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
* Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware 
 version. The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns 
 on.
* Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a 
 location on your computer where you can easily find it later
*  
 Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
 
  
* Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file 
 (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for 
 example, your Downloads folder.
* Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
 example, your Downloads folder.
* Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for 
 the unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow 
 the messages to locate the driver.
* Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages 
 to update the firmware.
  
 
 IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
 
  
 
* When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to 
 close and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
  
 To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button to 
 display firmware information.
  
 If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
 please don't hesitate to contact us. 
  
 If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous 
 correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist 
 you.
  
 Sincerely,
 
 Dennis G. Godin
 Technical Support Specialist
 Freedom Scientific, Inc
 727-803-8600
 supp...@freedomscientific.com
 www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
  
 Connect with us:
   

  
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Re: Headphone jack Not Working

[Janet Ingber]

Thanks Ray, I got sighted assistance, since I couldn’t hear VoiceOVer.  The Mac 
saw the headphones, but somehow the volume was down to zero.  I have no idea 
how that happened.

Thanks again,
Janet
On May 7, 2014, at 4:28 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> When your headphones are plugged in, if you go to System Preferences then 
> Sound and then the Output tab, does the output device say Internal Speakers 
> or Headphones? If it says Headphones then at least the Mac has noticed that 
> headphones are plugged in. In that same control panel make sure the mute 
> checkbox is not checked. The setting sticks so muting the headphones doesn't 
> mute the speakers and vice versa. If it says anything about "Digital Out" 
> then somehow the Mac things you've got a fiber optic cable connected instead 
> of headphones. That can sometimes be because of a stuck switch inside the 
> headphone jack or a software thing. One way folks have cleared the digital 
> optical output sticking is by having the Sound Output system preference open 
> while switching from headphones to speakers and back. Apparently it polls the 
> headphone port and can get it un-confused, if it's just a software thing. If 
> it's a hardware things you might be in the land of toothpicks and other 
> dangerous "fixes".
> 
> CB
> 
> On 5/7/14, 4:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>> Yep, you'll need to have the entire logic board replaced.  No way to put a 
>> new jack on because the jack is in fact printed directly in to the logic 
>> board.  Sorry for the bad news, but, that's the long and the short of that.
>> 
>> Very expensive to do that by the way.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> 
>>> The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several 
>>> sets of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part that  
>>> goes into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and that 
>>> works fine.  Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Janet
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Mystery control

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

I have a control in an application that has a button labeled Details.  It is
supposed to call up a list of advanced settings not usually covered in the
one tab of settings that is open.  I have tried spacebar, a double tap on
the trackpad, a left click, VO shift and VO Shift spacebar.  Nothing seems
to open this other group of tabs, at least not that I can see.  Anyone have
any ideas?  Thanks.

Bill

 

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Re: Headphone jack Not Working

[Alex Hall]

Remember that f11 and f12 lower and raise the volume, respectively. You may 
need to press function along with the keys, but they can let you quickly adjust 
the volume. F10 mutes, I believe.
On May 7, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:

> Thanks Ray, I got sighted assistance, since I couldn’t hear VoiceOVer.  The 
> Mac saw the headphones, but somehow the volume was down to zero.  I have no 
> idea how that happened.
> 
> Thanks again,
> Janet
> On May 7, 2014, at 4:28 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>> When your headphones are plugged in, if you go to System Preferences then 
>> Sound and then the Output tab, does the output device say Internal Speakers 
>> or Headphones? If it says Headphones then at least the Mac has noticed that 
>> headphones are plugged in. In that same control panel make sure the mute 
>> checkbox is not checked. The setting sticks so muting the headphones doesn't 
>> mute the speakers and vice versa. If it says anything about "Digital Out" 
>> then somehow the Mac things you've got a fiber optic cable connected instead 
>> of headphones. That can sometimes be because of a stuck switch inside the 
>> headphone jack or a software thing. One way folks have cleared the digital 
>> optical output sticking is by having the Sound Output system preference open 
>> while switching from headphones to speakers and back. Apparently it polls 
>> the headphone port and can get it un-confused, if it's just a software 
>> thing. If it's a hardware things you might be in the land of toothpicks and 
>> other dangerous "fixes".
>> 
>> CB
>> 
>> On 5/7/14, 4:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>> Yep, you'll need to have the entire logic board replaced.  No way to put a 
>>> new jack on because the jack is in fact printed directly in to the logic 
>>> board.  Sorry for the bad news, but, that's the long and the short of that.
>>> 
>>> Very expensive to do that by the way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in!
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several 
 sets of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part that 
  goes into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and that 
 works fine.  Any ideas?
 
 Many thanks,
 Janet
 
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Re: Kenwood software for Mac

['Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries]

Was checking the Chirp site and apparently they wrote the app in 
something called GTK or the GIMP Tool Kit which is an open 
cross-platform widget toolkit for making graphical user interfaces. GIMP 
is the open source Gnu Image Manipulation Program, a competitor to the 
commercial Photoshop app and they developed GTK to implement the UI for 
GIMP. So GTK's roots are in Linux. GTK does have an Accessibility 
Toolkit or ATK but that was maintained primarily by Sun and those folks 
were laid off when Oracle acquired them. So it's now maintained by 
volunteers but it also has its roots in Linux. Unlike some other 
projects they have written their own accessibility API and nobody 
currently involved is going to be motivated to port it to OSX. So the 
short version is that Chirp chose to write on top of a library which is 
cross platform but not cross-platform accessible. Seems like the only 
way to fix it would be for somebody to throw a bunch of money at the ATK 
folks to get a Mac port done but who would do that? I'm sure the Chirp 
guys are fully reliant on whatever GTK/ATK does for them as they are not 
going to re-write the platform and they aren't going to rewrite the 
whole thing as a native OSX app just for accessibility. So I wouldn't 
hold out much hope. It's like asking Flash developers to re-create their 
inaccessible stuff in HTML5. When your only tool is a hammer, all 
problems look like a nail.


CB

On 5/3/14, 12:42 AM, Maria and Joe Chapman wrote:

Hi.  I am not a blind ham but am willing to throw my voice in there in order to 
make the software accessible for someone that wants to use it.
Maria and Joe Chapman
bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



On 3 May 2014, at 2:07 pm, Eric Oyen  wrote:


I have been trying to get the developer of chirp to add some accessibility to 
the app (considering that those class objects are included in python, there 
shouldn't be an excuse not to). However, I have either been ignored (for the 
most part) or had one of the other users on that mailing list try to argue that 
we (as blind hams) are a too specialized population and too small to consider 
changing some interface elements just for us.

what we need to do is find every blind ham  who are interested in being able to program 
their own radios and just barrage the list with the same request: "enable 
accessibility features". If they get enough list traffic with this one subject, it 
may make the developer realize that we are not an insignificant population. This 
basically means we need to find, contact and convince every blind ham (quite a few of us 
are mac users) and have them start this campaign. The only other way I can see to get him 
to do what we want is to throw some money at him, post proof to his list and request that 
he make the changes needed to allow us to use his software.

These are just 2 suggestions and both have their strong points. Frankly, I am 
more than a little frustrated with software developers who are lazy and refuse 
to do something the right way. IMHO, the right way produces better results than 
the lazy way.

-eric


On May 2, 2014, at 6:58 AM, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:


From: Buddy Brannan 
Date: May 02 07:16AM -0400
Url: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/msg/806ab3c740dda0f2

I can guarantee you that Chirp is *not* accessible with Voiceover. For that 
matter, it can only be used with lots of mouse keys navigation under Windows, 
and most easily with Window-Eyes, in my experience.



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reading PDF attachments

[Regina Alvarado]

On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I VO-SPACED 
on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. When I tried 
to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need to read are legal 
so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF not supported fully on 
the Mac?



reggie and Allegra

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Fwd: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
> Date: 7 May 2014 10:26:09 pm BST
> To: "kawa...@me.com" 
> Subject: RE: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
> 
> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Sorry, but the only installer we 
> have is for Microsoft Windows, we do not have any Mac installer version for 
> the Focus braille display firmware. 
> 
> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
> please don't hesitate to contact us.  
> 
> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous correspondence 
> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dennis G. Godin
> Technical Support Specialist
> Freedom Scientific, Inc
> 727-803-8600 
> supp...@freedomscientific.com
> www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
> 
> Connect with us:
>   
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 5:00 PM
> To: Dennis Godin
> Subject: FW: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kawal Gucukoglu [mailto:kawa...@me.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 4:51 PM
> To: Freedom Scientific Technical Support
> Subject: Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
> 
> Thanks for this.  Do you have a Mac installer version or can we just do this 
> using Windows?  I do have Windows as well but thought I'd ask as I wish we 
> could download all braille drivers on all computers as now we can use your 
> products on different devices and not just windows.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 7 May 2014, at 20:27, Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
>> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
>> try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair it 
>> again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus firmware from 
>> the following location:
>> 
>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
>> 
>> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
>> 
>> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
>> 
>> Before You Begin
>> 
>>. Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>>. Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>>. Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware version. 
>> The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns on.
>>. Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a 
>> location on your computer where you can easily find it later
>>.  
>> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
>> 
>> 
>>. Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file 
>> (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for 
>> example, your Downloads folder.
>>. Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
>> example, your Downloads folder.
>>. Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for the 
>> unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow the 
>> messages to locate the driver.
>>. Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages to 
>> update the firmware.
>> 
>> 
>> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>. When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to 
>> close and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
>> 
>> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button to 
>> display firmware information.
>> 
>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
>> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
>> 
>> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous correspondence 
>> pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist you.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Dennis G. Godin
>> Technical Support Specialist
>> Freedom Scientific, Inc
>> 727-803-8600
>> supp...@freedomscientific.com
>> www.freedomscientific.com/support.asp
>> 
>> Connect with us:
>>   
> 

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Re: reading PDF attachments

[David Chittenden]

 PDFs are supported on the Mac. However, some PDFs are not accessible. Some 
PDFs are images of pages.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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> On 8 May 2014, at 9:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
> 
> On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I 
> VO-SPACED on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. 
> When I tried to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need to 
> read are legal so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF not 
> supported fully on the Mac?
> 
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Kawal.

Yes I downloaded the file and fired up windows, updated the display, tried to 
pare it, but did not succeed, I hope some of you get better luck. Please let me 
know.

Check your download folder, the file was downloaded just when I opened the link.
Best regards Annie.
Den 07/05/2014 kl. 23.02 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :

> Has anyone got this link to work?  When I open it in the Mac it says HTML 
> empty.
> On 7 May 2014, at 22:00, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I am sure there is no solution for upgrading on the mac.
>> 
>> It is one thing that I do not like with the focus 40. Another thing is that 
>> you can not ajust firmness in the mac, you must connect to windows if you 
>> wants to have it set to 100 %.
>> 
>> Thank you for providing the link.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 22.30 skrev Jan Blüher, visorApps 
>> :
>> 
>>> Hallo Kawal,
>>> 
>>> thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you please 
>>> ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have one, then 
>>> just to have their statement ...
>>> 
>>> Greetings
>>> 
>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
>>> Download on the App Store:
>>> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
>>> ---
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>>> visorApps - Accessible apps for iPad & iPhone
>>> Bayreuther Str. 2
>>> D-01187 Dresden
>>> Germany
>>> 
>>> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
>>> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
>>> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
>>> web: http://visorApps.com
>>> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
>>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
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>>> 
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>>> Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
>>> 
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
> 
> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you should 
> try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try to pair 
> it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest Focus 
> firmware from the following location:
> 
> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
> 
> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
> 
> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
> 
> Before You Begin
> 
>   * Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>   * Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>   * Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware 
> version. The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit turns 
> on.
>   * Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a 
> location on your computer where you can easily find it later
>   *  
> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
> 
> 
>   * Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file 
> (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for 
> example, your Downloads folder.
>   * Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
> example, your Downloads folder.
>   * Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for 
> the unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, follow 
> the messages to locate the driver.
>   * Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages 
> to update the firmware.
> 
> 
> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
> 
> 
> 
>   * When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to 
> close and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
> 
> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button 
> to display firmware information.
> 
> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
> 
> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous 
> correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist 
> you.
> 
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> 
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Re: reading PDF attachments

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If the pdf is an image of a page, the only way to read that sort of pdf is to 
use OCR to transform it into a useful pdf with hooks that VO can latch onto in 
order to read it to you.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> PDFs are supported on the Mac. However, some PDFs are not accessible. Some 
> PDFs are images of pages.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 8 May 2014, at 9:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
>> 
>> On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I 
>> VO-SPACED on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. 
>> When I tried to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need to 
>> read are legal so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF not 
>> supported fully on the Mac?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
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Re: good o c r for mac

[William Windels]

Hello,
I am very interested in abby fine reader pro for mac but I can't download it 
somewhere.

I have a key of abbyy fine reader express (for mac) and should think that I can 
download a trial and register later, if it is ok for me.
I find some links but the result is a .exe-file that is downloaded...

can someone suggest me to download the abbyy fine reader pro for mac?

All help is very appreciated.

kind regards and good night from belgium.

William Windels
Op 7-mei-2014, om 21:24 heeft Caitlyn and Maggie  
het volgende geschreven:

> thanks.
> It sure doesn't seem to give as good a picture as a flatbed scanner, for sure.
> Oh, well, so much for that.
> Cait
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi.
>> 
>> The hovercam t5v will not work directly with finereader. You can probably 
>> take the pictures with their own software for the mac, and when recognize 
>> with finereader, but it is an old version of the software, we can use, I 
>> have tried this camera, unfortunately I did not get very good pictures. I 
>> would have wished that it would have made good pictures for me. Now I have a 
>> couple of scanners, the best is my canon 9000f mark ii and that has been the 
>> cheapest of them, I do not know what to say about it.
>> 
>> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 15.34 skrev Caitlyn and Maggie 
>> :
>> 
>>> speaking of fine reader pro..
>>> does the hover cam t5v work with it?  I hope so, because this is what I 
>>> have for a scanner now.  I have docuscan, but want something else more 
>>> robust and with possibley better recognition and one that doesn't require 
>>> an internet connection to do the scanning/processing..
>>> Thanks!
>>> Caitlyn
>>> 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
 Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for 
 a time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do 
 apologise for the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show all" 
 button.  However, having read through the help files and having fiddled 
 some more this morning, I have at least found the .txt option which 
 appeared only after invoking the "export document" dialog.  Maybe that's 
 what is intended in the first place.  I will try to look for the "show 
 all' button again.  When I open Finereader with my scanner attached, I see 
 the table from which I choose the source of the images to be added, i.e. 
 mac, my scanner, and then to the right just 4 choices of scanning to pdf 
 or word or excel or html and then I come across new document section and 
 various choices for that but no "show all" button.  I will ask a sighted 
 friend to have a look for me too.  I like FineReader Pro very much indeed. 
  I have plenty to learn but it is worth it.
 
 Thanks again for your response.
 
 Andrew
 On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:
 
> Hello Andrew,
> 
> You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
>> Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
>> choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
>> through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, nor 
>> have I found .csv.  
>> 
>> Thank you
>> 
>> Andrew
>> On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Doug,
>>> 
>>> Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
>>> 
>>> PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, ODT, 
>>> CSV, TXT, and RTF.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>>> 
 D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
 Thanks,
 Doug
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
> 
> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa 
> discount too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% 
> discount you get it for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a 
> couple days ago and it's already made my life easier.
> 
> 
>> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
>> 
>> hi list
>> 
>> can anyone recommend voiceover friendly o c r to use with my hp 
>> scanner on my iMac?
>> 
>> thank you in advance
>> 
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Re: keyboard question

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Hey there!

Well, i’ve done a coupleof things.

I reset the pram on my imac.
When I plugged the new kb into it, I didn:t immediately get the set up 
assistant, but it did in fact, know that a kb was connected.  The option and 
command keys were switched, as you guessed.  I fixed that in system prefs in 
the keyboard section.

So, it’s sorta working, but some of the keys are changed around.  My apostrophe 
is now a shifted 7, for example and the at sign is  to the right of the p.

i’m not sure what technical layout this kb might be, but I suppose I can get 
used to it.  The only real bugger right now is that it doesn:t seem to 
recognize either the right option key or the right control.  This is a full 
sized keyboard, so it would be nice to use those keys.

Any suggestions on accessable key remapping apps?

One was suggested to me by a guy at the office store called usb overdrive, but 
I don’t know if it’s accessible and it’s $23, so I don’t want to spend the cash 
if it’s not.

Thanks!
Cait, typing from the new beast

On May 7, 2014, at 4:17 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> You could do VO-k to have voiceover tell you which key it thinks you pressed. 
> Might give a clue as to what's getting messed up.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 5/7/14, 4:12 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:
>> Chris,
>> I did try using alt tab to go between the finder and mail, which were the 
>> two open apps.  It didn’t work.  So, I am assuming that the keys just don’t 
>> work, rather then them being switched.
>> I am aware that with non mac keyboards, the command and option keys can get 
>> switched around. If this does happen, is there a way to remap them to the  
>> mac ones?  This is, of course, assuming I can get the stupid keyboard 
>> working on my desk top machine?
>> Thanks!
>> Cait
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 3:50 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't been following all of this thread but a common issue with 
>>> non-Apple keyboards is the command and option keys get swapped. So when you 
>>> say the VO keys didn't work, you might want to try control+command instead 
>>> of control+option to test if those keys have shifted around.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 5/7/14, 3:42 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:
 Hi,
 Yes, I've tried other keyboards and they get recognized.
 
 I did try this particular one with my mac air as well and got the keyboard 
 assistant.  I went through the assistant and after I followed all the 
 prompts, it said that the keyboard was ready to use. However, when I tried 
 to use it, not all of the keys were recognized.  For example, I was unable 
 to use the vo keys.
 
 I haven't tried resetting the pram on my imac yet, so I might try that.
 
 At this point, I am beginning to think that wanting an ergonomic keyboard 
 might just be too much trouble.
 boo.
 Cait
 
 On May 6, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
 
> Hi Cait,
> This all sounds very strange. I have a late 2009 white Macbook and when I 
> plug inan external keyboard I get the setup assistant here. Your keyboard 
> may be the problem. Have you tried a different keyboard on your iMac ? 
> What happens then?
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 3, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Doug,
>> My i mac is a 2010 imac, i7, 16 g of ram, if that makes any difference.  
>> I'm running mavericks, 10.9.2 or whatever the latest incarnation is at 
>> the moment.
>> 
>> I have tried everything I can think of to get this blasted keyboard to 
>> work!
>> 
>> I read an an article yesterday teling how to go into the user library 
>> and get rid of a particular plist file, which I did, but that only 
>> helped somewhat.  The file was com.apple.hitoolbox.  After I got rid of 
>> that and rebooted, some keys were recognized, but not as what they were 
>> supposed to do.  For example, command tab would move right, like the 
>> right arrow.
>> 
>> Just as an aside, I did plug the keyboard into my new mac air that I 
>> just got for Christmas and got the keyboard assistant.  AFter it claimed 
>> that the keyboard was recognized and said I could use the keyboard, 
>> again, the keyboard wasn't working as expected.  vo right arrow was 
>> acting like enter, for example.
>> 
>> Perhaps this microsoft keyboard is just wanky or something!
>> I sure wish it would work, because it's comfy to type on..  But it's not 
>> worth the hassle  unless I can figure out something relatively soon..
>> Thanks for any help!
>> Cait
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2014, at 3:52 PM, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What version of Mac OS are you running? How old is your iMac?
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 2, 2014, at 2:48 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie 
>>

Re: reading PDF attachments

[Regina Alvarado]

How do I know if the file is a page image? It was sent from a computer and was 
not scanned. It was hooked to an email.


reggie and Allegra

On May 7, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

Hi,

If the pdf is an image of a page, the only way to read that sort of pdf is to 
use OCR to transform it into a useful pdf with hooks that VO can latch onto in 
order to read it to you.

Later…

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On May 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
> PDFs are supported on the Mac. However, some PDFs are not accessible. Some 
> PDFs are images of pages.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 8 May 2014, at 9:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
>> 
>> On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I 
>> VO-SPACED on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. 
>> When I tried to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need to 
>> read are legal so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF not 
>> supported fully on the Mac?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> reggie and Allegra
>> 
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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Deb Lewis]

OK. got through the ID prompt this time. There is now one window which
says to choose a start up disk. But the scroll area for this is empty.
The only button is restart. If you press this it logically says that
you've not selected a disk. I agree with that. But I can't select one.
And it's the only window in the window chooser. No other options but
to restart and the disks are empty. I've definitely made things worse.
I didn't see how this could go so wrong.
Definitely appreciating the help.

On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> You shouldn't need to go to Mountain Lion first.  Apple should have a
> digital record of your computer being acceptable to use Mavericks.  Try
> restarting your Mac again, holding down the cmd and "r" keys" thus ensuring
> into recovery mode.  Click on the Disk Utility option and continue.  Yes, it
> is the Macintosh HD you wish to erase.  Erase it again with the default
> options of Mac OS Extended Journaled as your formatting preference.  Quit
> out of Disk Utility after it's done which should take you back to the screen
> where you can choose to re-install OS X.  Choose that option and continue.
> Agree to everything except your first born, then if it takes longer than
> about 3 seconds to come up with your Apple ID entry window, use the Window
> Chooser to find it.  Enter your Apple ID and password as usual and see what
> happens.  I'm wondering if the wait caused an issue.  Hopefully, that does
> the trick, otherwise we're going to need to do something in a round-about
> way.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>
>> Yes, it was looking for the ID and wasn't bringing focus to it. Next
>> it didn't recognize the Apple ID although I confirmed it using another
>> device. I've backed out of all and starting over. I actually didn't do
>> erase first last time and think this is actually what needs to happen.
>> I'm OK to proceed with that assuming I'm erasing the MacinTosh HD from
>> the options? But not sure what to do about my apple ID. Definitely
>> typed correctly and all that. My ID changed at some point so I even
>> tried entering the previous one which is still active. It says it's an
>> ID but not one I purchased Mavrix with. But Mavrix was free, LOL. I
>> know what they mean though.
>> I was able to use this ID to go into the App Store and verify my purchases
>> etc.
>> Didn't think this would become this complicated.
>> To confirm, I want to erase the Macintosh HD? And any thoughts about
>> how to get it to accept this ID which I know is valid.
>> Can I restore ack to Mountain Lion which came on the disk and then
>> upgrade again if necessary? Just
>> trying not to get caught with no PC at all somewhere down the line.
>> Deb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Did it ask you for your Apple ID and password?  If not, that's what it
>>> is
>>> waiting for.  Try the Window Chooser cmd-f2-f2 and see if you can bring
>>> focus to that area.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>>
 I did a restart on VO and it was on an install button. So I took that
 and now it says signing into the app store, but it's been saying this
 for about 20 minutes. Appears t be totally stuck doing this step. I
 also can't exit this. Yikes, panic.

 On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy
> 
> wrote:
>
>> No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do
>> so.
>> You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.
>>
>> Regards Chris
>> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
>>
>> On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
>>> OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
>>> agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like
>>> starting
>>> to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of
>>> feedback.
>>> I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and
>>> there's
>>> no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
>>> something after I agreed to everything.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,

 As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.
 The
 reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently running
 the
 MacOS
 from that HD, so you are not allowed to erase the "blessed" running
 system.
 So, restart your computer and as you hear the Startup Chime, hold
 down
 the
 cmd and "r" keys simultaneously for about 5 seconds then release.
 Wait
 for
 a minute or so th

Re: reading PDF attachments

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Usually, you can tell simply by it not being readable by your PDF reader.  The 
sender may have scanned it sometime in the past thus making it an image of the 
legal document consequently unreadable by a blind/visually impaired user.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 3:44 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> How do I know if the file is a page image? It was sent from a computer and 
> was not scanned. It was hooked to an email.
> 
> 
> reggie and Allegra
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If the pdf is an image of a page, the only way to read that sort of pdf is to 
> use OCR to transform it into a useful pdf with hooks that VO can latch onto 
> in order to read it to you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 3:34 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
>> PDFs are supported on the Mac. However, some PDFs are not accessible. Some 
>> PDFs are images of pages.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 8 May 2014, at 9:31, Regina Alvarado  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On the Mac, how do I read attachments in PDF? I had an attachment. I 
>>> VO-SPACED on it and got a menu with options. I chose to open the PDF file. 
>>> When I tried to read, I could only see the title. The attachments I need to 
>>> read are legal so imporftant to see. What am I doing wrong or is PDF not 
>>> supported fully on the Mac?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> reggie and Allegra
>>> 
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Re: apple hardware test question

[Caitlyn and Maggie]

Ok, thanks.
I might try and run them next time I have some working eyes around here.
Cait

On May 6, 2014, at 4:22 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

> I don't think so. The hardware diagnostics are supposed to run independent of 
> whatever is stored on your hard drive and such. They would need to load some 
> shell of OSX to get speech and load up voices from the hard drive. The 
> hardware diagnostics should be running at a level lower than that to directly 
> touch the ram, video, sound and other subsystems.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 5/6/14, 3:59 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Does anybody here know if the apple hardware tests that you can invoke when 
>> you hold down the letter d and the option key on boot are accessible?
>> thanks!
>> Cait
>> 
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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

That dialog should only appear when you quit the recovery app.  Not sure why 
this is being so uncooperative.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On May 7, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> OK. got through the ID prompt this time. There is now one window which
> says to choose a start up disk. But the scroll area for this is empty.
> The only button is restart. If you press this it logically says that
> you've not selected a disk. I agree with that. But I can't select one.
> And it's the only window in the window chooser. No other options but
> to restart and the disks are empty. I've definitely made things worse.
> I didn't see how this could go so wrong.
> Definitely appreciating the help.
> 
> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You shouldn't need to go to Mountain Lion first.  Apple should have a
>> digital record of your computer being acceptable to use Mavericks.  Try
>> restarting your Mac again, holding down the cmd and "r" keys" thus ensuring
>> into recovery mode.  Click on the Disk Utility option and continue.  Yes, it
>> is the Macintosh HD you wish to erase.  Erase it again with the default
>> options of Mac OS Extended Journaled as your formatting preference.  Quit
>> out of Disk Utility after it's done which should take you back to the screen
>> where you can choose to re-install OS X.  Choose that option and continue.
>> Agree to everything except your first born, then if it takes longer than
>> about 3 seconds to come up with your Apple ID entry window, use the Window
>> Chooser to find it.  Enter your Apple ID and password as usual and see what
>> happens.  I'm wondering if the wait caused an issue.  Hopefully, that does
>> the trick, otherwise we're going to need to do something in a round-about
>> way.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, it was looking for the ID and wasn't bringing focus to it. Next
>>> it didn't recognize the Apple ID although I confirmed it using another
>>> device. I've backed out of all and starting over. I actually didn't do
>>> erase first last time and think this is actually what needs to happen.
>>> I'm OK to proceed with that assuming I'm erasing the MacinTosh HD from
>>> the options? But not sure what to do about my apple ID. Definitely
>>> typed correctly and all that. My ID changed at some point so I even
>>> tried entering the previous one which is still active. It says it's an
>>> ID but not one I purchased Mavrix with. But Mavrix was free, LOL. I
>>> know what they mean though.
>>> I was able to use this ID to go into the App Store and verify my purchases
>>> etc.
>>> Didn't think this would become this complicated.
>>> To confirm, I want to erase the Macintosh HD? And any thoughts about
>>> how to get it to accept this ID which I know is valid.
>>> Can I restore ack to Mountain Lion which came on the disk and then
>>> upgrade again if necessary? Just
>>> trying not to get caught with no PC at all somewhere down the line.
>>> Deb
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Did it ask you for your Apple ID and password?  If not, that's what it
 is
 waiting for.  Try the Window Chooser cmd-f2-f2 and see if you can bring
 focus to that area.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 7, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
 
> I did a restart on VO and it was on an install button. So I took that
> and now it says signing into the app store, but it's been saying this
> for about 20 minutes. Appears t be totally stuck doing this step. I
> also can't exit this. Yikes, panic.
> 
> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy
>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to do
>>> so.
>>> You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.
>>> 
>>> Regards Chris
>>> Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!
>>> 
>>> On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
 OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
 agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like
 starting
 to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of
 feedback.
 I assume I've done the deed since I didn't get any errors and
 there's
 no longer any VO? I guess I expected to get a start button or
 something after I agreed to everything.
 
 
 On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As Chris mentioned, you must do this from the Recovery Partition.
> The
> reason everything is dimmed out is that you are currently runni

Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Deb Lewis]

Well it finally restarted on its own and I got the typical install
window that I've seen lots of times so we're probably good. I just
hope it did erase t. Was never quite sure about that. But I do think
we're finally making progress.

On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> That dialog should only appear when you quit the recovery app.  Not sure why
> this is being so uncooperative.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>
>> OK. got through the ID prompt this time. There is now one window which
>> says to choose a start up disk. But the scroll area for this is empty.
>> The only button is restart. If you press this it logically says that
>> you've not selected a disk. I agree with that. But I can't select one.
>> And it's the only window in the window chooser. No other options but
>> to restart and the disks are empty. I've definitely made things worse.
>> I didn't see how this could go so wrong.
>> Definitely appreciating the help.
>>
>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You shouldn't need to go to Mountain Lion first.  Apple should have a
>>> digital record of your computer being acceptable to use Mavericks.  Try
>>> restarting your Mac again, holding down the cmd and "r" keys" thus
>>> ensuring
>>> into recovery mode.  Click on the Disk Utility option and continue.  Yes,
>>> it
>>> is the Macintosh HD you wish to erase.  Erase it again with the default
>>> options of Mac OS Extended Journaled as your formatting preference.
>>> Quit
>>> out of Disk Utility after it's done which should take you back to the
>>> screen
>>> where you can choose to re-install OS X.  Choose that option and
>>> continue.
>>> Agree to everything except your first born, then if it takes longer than
>>> about 3 seconds to come up with your Apple ID entry window, use the
>>> Window
>>> Chooser to find it.  Enter your Apple ID and password as usual and see
>>> what
>>> happens.  I'm wondering if the wait caused an issue.  Hopefully, that
>>> does
>>> the trick, otherwise we're going to need to do something in a
>>> round-about
>>> way.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>>>
 Yes, it was looking for the ID and wasn't bringing focus to it. Next
 it didn't recognize the Apple ID although I confirmed it using another
 device. I've backed out of all and starting over. I actually didn't do
 erase first last time and think this is actually what needs to happen.
 I'm OK to proceed with that assuming I'm erasing the MacinTosh HD from
 the options? But not sure what to do about my apple ID. Definitely
 typed correctly and all that. My ID changed at some point so I even
 tried entering the previous one which is still active. It says it's an
 ID but not one I purchased Mavrix with. But Mavrix was free, LOL. I
 know what they mean though.
 I was able to use this ID to go into the App Store and verify my
 purchases
 etc.
 Didn't think this would become this complicated.
 To confirm, I want to erase the Macintosh HD? And any thoughts about
 how to get it to accept this ID which I know is valid.
 Can I restore ack to Mountain Lion which came on the disk and then
 upgrade again if necessary? Just
 trying not to get caught with no PC at all somewhere down the line.
 Deb



 On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Did it ask you for your Apple ID and password?  If not, that's what it
> is
> waiting for.  Try the Window Chooser cmd-f2-f2 and see if you can
> bring
> focus to that area.
>
> Later...
>
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>
> On May 7, 2014, at 1:05 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>
>> I did a restart on VO and it was on an install button. So I took that
>> and now it says signing into the app store, but it's been saying this
>> for about 20 minutes. Appears t be totally stuck doing this step. I
>> also can't exit this. Yikes, panic.
>>
>> On 5/7/14, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> VO shouldn't quit working though.  Hmmm.
>>>
>>> Later...
>>>
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Chris Apple boy
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 No you don't. It just goes ahead and erases it once you agreed to
 do
 so.
 You can now quit Disk Utility and reinstall Mac Os X.

 Regards Chris
 Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth!

 On 07/05/2014 19:49, Deb Lewis wrote:
> OK. Duh, I do feel stupid. This time nothing was greyed out and I
> agreed to all of the agreements. It didn't say anything like
> starting
> to reformat and it's just sitting there at least in terms of
> feedback.
> I assume I've done the deed s

Re: Headphone jack Not Working

[Janet Ingber]

Thanks Alex,
I completely forgot about that.

Janet
On May 7, 2014, at 5:15 PM, Alex Hall  wrote:

> Remember that f11 and f12 lower and raise the volume, respectively. You may 
> need to press function along with the keys, but they can let you quickly 
> adjust the volume. F10 mutes, I believe.
> On May 7, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Ray, I got sighted assistance, since I couldn’t hear VoiceOVer.  The 
>> Mac saw the headphones, but somehow the volume was down to zero.  I have no 
>> idea how that happened.
>> 
>> Thanks again,
>> Janet
>> On May 7, 2014, at 4:28 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> When your headphones are plugged in, if you go to System Preferences then 
>>> Sound and then the Output tab, does the output device say Internal Speakers 
>>> or Headphones? If it says Headphones then at least the Mac has noticed that 
>>> headphones are plugged in. In that same control panel make sure the mute 
>>> checkbox is not checked. The setting sticks so muting the headphones 
>>> doesn't mute the speakers and vice versa. If it says anything about 
>>> "Digital Out" then somehow the Mac things you've got a fiber optic cable 
>>> connected instead of headphones. That can sometimes be because of a stuck 
>>> switch inside the headphone jack or a software thing. One way folks have 
>>> cleared the digital optical output sticking is by having the Sound Output 
>>> system preference open while switching from headphones to speakers and 
>>> back. Apparently it polls the headphone port and can get it un-confused, if 
>>> it's just a software thing. If it's a hardware things you might be in the 
>>> land of toothpicks and other dangerous "fixes".
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 5/7/14, 4:15 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
 Yep, you'll need to have the entire logic board replaced.  No way to put a 
 new jack on because the jack is in fact printed directly in to the logic 
 board.  Sorry for the bad news, but, that's the long and the short of that.
 
 Very expensive to do that by the way.
 
 
 Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On May 7, 2014, at 3:03 PM, Janet Ingber  wrote:
 
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> The headphone jack on my Macbook Air is not working.  I've tried several 
> sets of headphones without success.  I've made sure that the the part 
> that  goes into the computer is all the way in.  I have a USB headset and 
> that works fine.  Any ideas?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Janet
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A hotkey for cloudclip mannager.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi.

I have installed the cloud clip mannager.

The global hotkey for that program is command + option + control + v, this is 
the same command as go to visited link. Is there any way to change the hotkey, 
or can I do something else.

Thank you an advance.

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Re: Which Mac?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Okay. I wasn't going to pipe in, but I purchased my Mac Air last Labor Day 
weekend and got an 11?. You must have big, fat fingers because the keys are 
just fine for me. As far as battery life concerns, the 13 inch does have the 11 
inch beat, but my decision was to put the money into the SSSD to 512. To me, 
this was more important especially when I knew I would need some of this 
precious disk space for Win 8 installed in bootcamp. 

When thinking about either using bootcamp with Windows or VM Ware decide which 
programs need to be install and how much power you will need to run it all. I 
took the bootcamp route and I'm glad I did after reading the threads others 
have posted in the past related to a program that wouldn't install, problems 
with JAWS, or just other silly stuff. I wanted to have full power on the Win 
side. HTH.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 7, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
> 
> My business has an elve-inch, but if I ever have the money, I'd do the 
> thirteen. The battery is indeed better, but I'd want the SD slot. There is a 
> device called a Nifty Mini Drive, which is a micro SD card holder that sits 
> flush with the MBA's body. It gives you up to 64gb of storage on the card, 
> but is flush so you never even know it's there. Also, the function keys 
> across the top are larger on the bigger model, and I use them enough that I'd 
> like them to be big instead of tiny.
>> On May 7, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Phil Halton  wrote:
>> 
>> I went for the 13 inch Air as well when I bought back in July last. Battery 
>> life was a consideration but I also like the feel of the 13 inch better than 
>> the 11 inch. Ergonomics matter too.
>> 
>>> On May 7, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Tristan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got the 13 inch for the battery life. 11 inch has 9 hours, compared
>>> to the 13 inch which has 12. While using a virtual machine -- or --
>>> Windows in general, it's important to have as much battery life as
>>> possible, as Windows lacks the excellent power management that OSX
>>> has. That three hours could mean a large difference in terms of how
>>> much battery life is taken off from virtual machines.
>>> 
 On 5/7/14, Kayaker  wrote:
 Hi,
 
 You should be all set. But I have to admit I’m puzzled why you went for the
 13 inch instead of the 11 inch Air? The screen seems like a silly place to
 invest dollars if you can’t see it.
 
 Regardless, the specs will serve you well for quite some time for what your
 stated needs are. Think hard about using bootcamp or VMware Fusion as your
 Windows solution. Pros and cons both ways. Check the archives here for lots
 of tips.
 
 Best,
 —k
 Faith doesn’t give you the answers, it merely stops you from asking the
 questions.
 
 
 
 
> On May 6, 2014, at 7:45 PM, Tristan  wrote:
> 
> I opted with the 13 inch MacBook Air early 2014 model. 1.7 GHZ
> (turboboost up to 3.3 GHz), 256 GB SSD and 8 GB RAM. I think from what
> I've heard so far I should be more than set for either VM or bootcamp.
> 
>> On 5/6/14, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> Do you only get 32 RAM on an iMac? As this is what I have!
>> 
>>> On 6 May 2014, at 09:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The main constraint I've noticed when running virtual machines is
>>> Windows
>>> beats on the hard drive. So my CPU will be taking a nap while Windows
>>> does
>>> who-knows-what on the hard drive. In other words, Windows is an I/O
>>> bound
>>> not CPU bound process. Sure, if you're doing something CPU intensive on
>>> there like encoding audio or calculating 10K digits of pi the CPU might
>>> matter but generally spinning disks have not kept up with the leaps in
>>> CPU
>>> performance. So I would drop more money on SSD than CPU. Of course,
>>> then,
>>> there's RAM. If you don't have enough the system will swap least used
>>> chunks of memory to disk to make room for stuff you actually need. This
>>> swap to disk process can turn any fast drive and CPU to sludge. Now
>>> days
>>> machines ship with 4GB of RAM or more and that seems to work pretty
>>> well
>>> in most cases. If you're running Windows in a virtual machine that is
>>> going to suck up a good chunk of RAM and keep it as long as it is
>>> running.
>>> So for virtual machine users I'd bump up the RAM to avoid going into
>>> swaps-a-lot mode. I just upgraded a Mac Mini from 4 to 16GB. Cost was
>>> about $160 which, as an old computer geezer, is just crazy cheap.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
 On 5/4/14, 12:46 PM, David Taylor wrote:
 It's plenty. My MBA runs faster with a VM than any Windows machine I
 ever
 had
> On 4 May 2014, at 17:31, Tristan  wrote:
> 
> Would the 1.7 GHZ processor in a MacBook Air be enough for a virtual
>>>

Re: A hotkey for cloudclip mannager.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Ok I have just figured out that I can press vo+tab, and then use the 
vo+command+v, but if I can change the command it would be easier.

Best regards Annie.
Den 08/05/2014 kl. 00.17 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen :

> Hi.
> 
> I have installed the cloud clip mannager.
> 
> The global hotkey for that program is command + option + control + v, this is 
> the same command as go to visited link. Is there any way to change the 
> hotkey, or can I do something else.
> 
> Thank you an advance.
> 
> Best regards Annie.

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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Mike Arrigo]

You need to boot in to recovery, it won't let you erase the drive it's booted 
from, the best thing to do is to boot in to recovery using command+r, then use 
disk utility to erase the drive, and finally choose to reinstall your operating 
system. That will give the mac a fresh start.
On May 7, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:

> Hi:
> I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
> first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
> greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
> missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
> I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
> quite getting it right since no options are available.
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
> Deb
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Teresa Cochran]

the filename starts with FS. Mine is working fine, and I'm almost afraid to 
update the firmware. I don't want to "fix" something that isn't broken. I may 
try it on my husband's computer at some point.

teresa

"Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. Feynman

On May 7, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi Kawal.
> 
> Yes I downloaded the file and fired up windows, updated the display, tried to 
> pare it, but did not succeed, I hope some of you get better luck. Please let 
> me know.
> 
> Check your download folder, the file was downloaded just when I opened the 
> link.
> Best regards Annie.
> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 23.02 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
>> Has anyone got this link to work?  When I open it in the Mac it says HTML 
>> empty.
>> On 7 May 2014, at 22:00, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> I am sure there is no solution for upgrading on the mac.
>>> 
>>> It is one thing that I do not like with the focus 40. Another thing is that 
>>> you can not ajust firmness in the mac, you must connect to windows if you 
>>> wants to have it set to 100 %.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for providing the link.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 22.30 skrev Jan Blüher, visorApps 
>>> :
>>> 
 Hallo Kawal,
 
 thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you 
 please ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have 
 one, then just to have their statement ...
 
 Greetings
 
 Jan
 
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 Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
 
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
>> 
>> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
>> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
>> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
>> 
>> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your Focus 
>> braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that you 
>> should try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and then try 
>> to pair it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the latest 
>> Focus firmware from the following location:
>> 
>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
>> 
>> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
>> 
>> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
>> 
>> Before You Begin
>> 
>>  * Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>>  * Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>>  * Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware 
>> version. The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit 
>> turns on.
>>  * Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it to a 
>> location on your computer where you can easily find it later
>>  *  
>> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
>> 
>> 
>>  * Using the link above, download and save the appropriate firmware file 
>> (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily find it, for 
>> example, your Downloads folder.
>>  * Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find it, for 
>> example, your Downloads folder.
>>  * Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and wait for 
>> the unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box appears, 
>> follow the messages to locate the driver.
>>  * Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the messages 
>> to update the firmware.
>> 
>> 
>> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  * When the update is finished, you may receive a message telling you to 
>> close and restart your screen reader before using your braille display.
>> 
>> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button 
>> to display firmware information.
>> 
>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
>> please don't hesitate to contact us. 
>> 
>> If replying to this message, Be sure to include all previous 
>> correspondence pertaining to this matter so that we might better assist 
>> you.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
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>> Technical Support Specialist
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Re: heading levels

[Catherine Turner]

Thanks for the info, will have a look in Getting Started Guide for
Activities.  Just to say though, I have read a lot of the Getting
Started Guide and learnt much from it, but it doesn't always suit
people's learning styles to sit and read a guide like that from
beginning to end.  I do learn stuff that way, but even if I'd read the
entire guide that's no guarantee that I would have absorbed all the
information.  I've also explored the utility and a lot of the menus in
full but that's no guarantee of understanding everything I find there.
 It takes experimentation, confidence, time and effort to learn
things, not just looking and reading.  That's why groups like this one
get formed - so people can help each other out.  Please don't assume
that people haven't read the guides or that reading them would make
these questions unnecessary.  When I asked the question I thought
maybe there was a podcast demonstrating this feature - and yes I could
search applevis for "activities" but that would most likely yield a
huge amount of results and so sometimes the most efficient way to get
a pointer is to ask on a forum such as this.

Catherine

On 5/6/14, David Taylor  wrote:
> Getting started guide from VO help menu, VO-h. Everybody should read this in
> full and explore the VO Utility in full, where they would find all of these
> things
>
>
> On 6 May 2014, at 08:14, Catherine Turner
>  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Please could you say what Activities is and where I can find out more
>> about it?  Haven't found out about this so far.
>>
>> Catherine
>>
>> On 5/6/14, David Taylor  wrote:
>>> I have used activities. In browsers my activity has quick nav and single
>>> letter nav on, in chat type apps I have quick nav on but single letter
>>> off,
>>> and by default I have both off. When I want to type in a browser I
>>> either
>>> interact or turn Quick Nav off.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 6 May 2014, at 03:19, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>>
 No, there is no quick way to turn it on or off. Despite that, it is
 worth
 trying - you need only press the left and right arrows together to
 toggle
 Quick nav, so it is a very easy thing to turn on or off. I mostly leave
 it
 off, but I do find it useful in Safari and, to a lesser extent, apps
 like
 iTunes and Xcode.
 On May 5, 2014, at 1:44 PM, John D. Lipsey  wrote:

> Is there a quick way to toggle single letter navigation on the fly? I
> use
> quicknav all the time, but have never used single letter navigation
> before. It's something I'd like to play with a bit, but only if I can
> quickly toggle it on and off. Even if not, it may be worth poking
> around.
>
> DFTBA!
>
> John D. Lipsey
> johnl1...@gmail.com
> Twitter: @J_TGL
>
> On May 5, 2014, at 11:16, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>
>> Hello Christina,
>>
>> If you use the Web Rotor, in Headings, you can type a number and only
>> the headings of that level will be shown.
>>
>> Alternatively, with Quick Nav on and with single letter navigation
>> enabled, you can type a number and you'll be taken to the first
>> heading
>> of that level.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Anne
>>
>>
>> On 5 May 2014, at 18:59, Christina C. 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Is there a way to navigate by a particular heading level? For
>>> example,
>>> what if I want to go directly to heading level 1 or what if I only
>>> want
>>> to navigate the heading level 3's.
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>> Christina
>>>
>>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>>>
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Re: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac

[Scott Berry]

I tried updating and that didn't work well.

In fact, I came back over to the Mac and had the same problem.
On May 7, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Teresa Cochran  wrote:

> the filename starts with FS. Mine is working fine, and I'm almost afraid to 
> update the firmware. I don't want to "fix" something that isn't broken. I may 
> try it on my husband's computer at some point.
> 
> teresa
> 
> "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. 
> Feynman
> 
> On May 7, 2014, at 2:37 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal.
>> 
>> Yes I downloaded the file and fired up windows, updated the display, tried 
>> to pare it, but did not succeed, I hope some of you get better luck. Please 
>> let me know.
>> 
>> Check your download folder, the file was downloaded just when I opened the 
>> link.
>> Best regards Annie.
>> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 23.02 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu :
>> 
>>> Has anyone got this link to work?  When I open it in the Mac it says HTML 
>>> empty.
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 22:00, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi.
 
 I am sure there is no solution for upgrading on the mac.
 
 It is one thing that I do not like with the focus 40. Another thing is 
 that you can not ajust firmness in the mac, you must connect to windows if 
 you wants to have it set to 100 %.
 
 Thank you for providing the link.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den 07/05/2014 kl. 22.30 skrev Jan Blüher, visorApps 
 :
 
> Hallo Kawal,
> 
> thank you for forwarding the e-mail and the download link. Could you 
> please ask them for a Mac version of the installer? If they do not have 
> one, then just to have their statement ...
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Jan
> 
> ---
> MouseKick - The mice are coming!
> Download on the App Store:
> http://AppStore.com/MouseKick
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> D-01187 Dresden
> Germany
> 
> phone: +49 (0) 351 16053907
> mobile: +49 (0) 176 34926242
> e-mail: jan.blue...@visorapps.com
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> Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/#visorApps
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/VisorApps
> 
> tax number: DE281706766
> 
> 
> 
> Am 07.05.2014 um 22:05 schrieb Kawal Gucukoglu :
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Freedom Scientific Technical Support 
>>> 
>>> Date: 7 May 2014 08:27:32 pm BST
>>> To: "'kawa...@me.com'" 
>>> Subject: Focus 40 Blue with an iMac
>>> 
>>> Thank you for contacting  Technical Support. Before upgrading your 
>>> Focus braille display to have it work with your iMac, I suggest that 
>>> you should try removing the pairing of the Focus with the iMac, and 
>>> then try to pair it again. If this doesn't work, you can download the 
>>> latest Focus firmware from the following location:
>>> 
>>> https://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/48fw7b
>>> 
>>> Please use the following instructions to update the Focus Blue firmware.
>>> 
>>> Focus Blue Firmware Update Procedure
>>> 
>>> Before You Begin
>>> 
>>> * Review this procedure before attempting to update your unit
>>> * Make sure you have the supplied Focus Blue USB cable
>>> * Press the unit's Power button and verify the current firmware 
>>> version. The unit's name and firmware version display when the unit 
>>> turns on.
>>> * Download the appropriate Focus Blue firmware file and copy it 
>>> to a location on your computer where you can easily find it later
>>> *  
>>> Updating the Focus Blue Firmware
>>> 
>>> 
>>> * Using the link above, download and save the appropriate 
>>> firmware file (ZIP) to a location on your computer where you can easily 
>>> find it, for example, your Downloads folder.
>>> * Open the file and extract it to a folder where you can find 
>>> it, for example, your Downloads folder.
>>> * Plug the braille display into your computer's USB port and 
>>> wait for the unit to turn on. If the Found New Hardware dialog box 
>>> appears, follow the messages to locate the driver.
>>> * Run the application file (EXE) for your unit and follow the 
>>> messages to update the firmware.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> IMPORTANT: Do not disconnect the unit during the update process.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> * When the update is finished, you may receive a message 
>>> telling you to close and restart your screen reader before using your 
>>> braille display.
>>> 
>>> To verify that the update was successful, press the unit's POWER button 
>>> to display firmware information.
>>> 
>>> If you have any additional questions regarding this or any other issue, 
>

1-800-flowers site

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

Ok,
I've tried this on my Mac, and on a Win 7 machine. I cannot choose a delivery 
date, nor type in my zip code. Anyone else have any luck?

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shortcut key navigation in Web pages

[Scott Berry]

Hello there,

How do I turn on shortcut key for like headings and lists for navigating web 
pages?


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Re: shortcut key navigation in Web pages

[Alex Hall]

You only have to do this once, but open the VO Utility with vo-f8 (you might 
need to add the function key). Arrow down to Commanders, vo-right to the Quick 
Nav tab and select it, then find and check the "allow single letter navigation 
on web pages" checkbox. You can now close the VO Utility and go back to a 
webpage. Press the left and right arrows together to turn on Quick Nav, and 
you're all set.
On May 7, 2014, at 10:22 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:

> Hello there,
> 
> How do I turn on shortcut key for like headings and lists for navigating web 
> pages?
> 
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IPhone 5 running 7.1 Messages broken?

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I have been using messages on my iPhone 5 fine, up until this afternoon. 
Lately, however, when I open the app, voiceover goes silent, and screen appears 
to freeze.

I am hoping a simple upgrade will fix this, but cannot otherwise figure out 
what I will maybe.

Thanks again.

PS: Amy Three Deer and I were married on Monday, May 5, 2014 is all over Amy's 
and my Facebook pages, Amy is putting up her amazing photography and 
videography on YouTube as we speak. You cannot possibly enjoy it as much as we 
are

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Rformatting my Mac

[Deb Lewis]

That's what I finally was able to do. but it was really a struggle.
Focus wouldn't readily go to the password field to download Mavrix,
somehow I wasn't seeing the window or the erase, and after all that I
managed to transpose some letters and numbers in my office password so
that I couldn't log back in after I had done the initial setup. That
last was pretty stupid and fortunately I did figure out what I'd done
but not before I'd looked up some nasty registry hacks for passwords
that I was about to try.
Anyway, I got it but none of it quite went as advertised.

Deb


On 5/7/14, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> You need to boot in to recovery, it won't let you erase the drive it's
> booted from, the best thing to do is to boot in to recovery using command+r,
> then use disk utility to erase the drive, and finally choose to reinstall
> your operating system. That will give the mac a fresh start.
> On May 7, 2014, at 12:50 PM, Deb Lewis  wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>> I'm returning my MacBook Air to myoffice and need to reformat it
>> first. I went into Disk Utility and selected Erase but everything is
>> greyed out even though I've selected the drive etc. I'm obviously
>> missing some steps, LOL. I know this should be doable with VO because
>> I think I've seen it happen before, but as I said, I'm obviously not
>> quite getting it right since no options are available.
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>
>> Deb
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Re: good o c r for mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello William,

Here is the link to the page where you can buy the upgrade from ABBYY 
FineReader Express to FineReader Pro for EURO 65:


As far as I know, the pro version is currently only in English and German.

Cheers,

Anne




On 7 May 2014, at 23:42, William Windels  wrote:

> Hello,
> I am very interested in abby fine reader pro for mac but I can't download it 
> somewhere.
> 
> I have a key of abbyy fine reader express (for mac) and should think that I 
> can download a trial and register later, if it is ok for me.
> I find some links but the result is a .exe-file that is downloaded...
> 
> can someone suggest me to download the abbyy fine reader pro for mac?
> 
> All help is very appreciated.
> 
> kind regards and good night from belgium.
> 
> William Windels
> Op 7-mei-2014, om 21:24 heeft Caitlyn and Maggie  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> thanks.
>> It sure doesn't seem to give as good a picture as a flatbed scanner, for 
>> sure.
>> Oh, well, so much for that.
>> Cait
>> 
>> On May 7, 2014, at 10:42 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi.
>>> 
>>> The hovercam t5v will not work directly with finereader. You can probably 
>>> take the pictures with their own software for the mac, and when recognize 
>>> with finereader, but it is an old version of the software, we can use, I 
>>> have tried this camera, unfortunately I did not get very good pictures. I 
>>> would have wished that it would have made good pictures for me. Now I have 
>>> a couple of scanners, the best is my canon 9000f mark ii and that has been 
>>> the cheapest of them, I do not know what to say about it.
>>> 
>>> Best regards Annie.
>>> Den 07/05/2014 kl. 15.34 skrev Caitlyn and Maggie 
>>> :
>>> 
 speaking of fine reader pro..
 does the hover cam t5v work with it?  I hope so, because this is what I 
 have for a scanner now.  I have docuscan, but want something else more 
 robust and with possibley better recognition and one that doesn't require 
 an internet connection to do the scanning/processing..
 Thanks!
 Caitlyn
 
 On May 7, 2014, at 5:45 AM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
 
> Thank you, Anne.  I've been following these discussions on FineReader for 
> a time and I know you've been asked these questions before, so I do 
> apologise for the repetitive nature.  The thing is I can't find "show 
> all" button.  However, having read through the help files and having 
> fiddled some more this morning, I have at least found the .txt option 
> which appeared only after invoking the "export document" dialog.  Maybe 
> that's what is intended in the first place.  I will try to look for the 
> "show all' button again.  When I open Finereader with my scanner 
> attached, I see the table from which I choose the source of the images to 
> be added, i.e. mac, my scanner, and then to the right just 4 choices of 
> scanning to pdf or word or excel or html and then I come across new 
> document section and various choices for that but no "show all" button.  
> I will ask a sighted friend to have a look for me too.  I like FineReader 
> Pro very much indeed.  I have plenty to learn but it is worth it.
> 
> Thanks again for your response.
> 
> Andrew
> On 7 May 2014, at 10:23, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Andrew,
>> 
>> You need to check the Show all check box for all the options to show up.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 7 May 2014, at 09:24, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>> 
>>> Why don't some of the formats into which ABBYY can scan into show as a 
>>> choice in the Window when I'm exporting a scanned document?  I've been 
>>> through these choices many times and I can't find .txt for instance, 
>>> nor have I found .csv.  
>>> 
>>> Thank you
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> On 7 May 2014, at 06:49, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello Doug,
 
 Here is the list of formats for FineReader Pro.
 
 PDF, ePub, Word, FB2, Excel, Image, PowerPoint Presentation, HTML, 
 ODT, CSV, TXT, and RTF.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 7 May 2014, at 01:16, Doug Lawlor  wrote:
 
> D what formats does fine reader scanned into?
> Thanks,
> Doug
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 4, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Scott Berry  wrote:
>> 
>> I suggest Abby Fine Reader.  If your a student you can get aa 
>> discount too.  It normally costs $99.95 but if you get the 30% 
>> discount you get it for $65.95.  I love it.  I just bought it a 
>> couple days ago and it's already made my life easier.
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 3, 2014, at 8:00 PM, joseph  wrote:
>>> 
>>> hi list
>>> 
>>> can anyone recommend