Hey well I guess a clean install isn't going to happen today, as I am not sure 
if I know how to boot from my external drive, might have to have a buddy who 
knows more about computers help me with that. Plus I have to back everything 
up. Just very frustrating to be dealing with something new every day. Sorry for 
venting but hey you don't have to read it if you don't like it. Thanks to those 
who have offered solutions. Another funny note is the last few days since I 
have had these severe issues with mail open and running my Logictech solar 
keyboard doesn't work, but if I quit mail the Logictech keyboard works fine, 
very bizarre, and frustrating. And nope changing mail to check every 30 minutes 
unfortunately didn't help as in the middle of this I got busy busy busy again.
On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Google "clean install of Mvericks" to get the exact steps, but the basic idea 
> is you download the installer from the App Store, run a terminal command once 
> you plug in a properly formatted drive, and wait. Once that is done, boot to 
> that drive instead of your regular one, open Disk Utility, completely wipe 
> your Macintosh HD partition (not the entire hard drive) and then close Disk 
> Utility and select "install Mac OS 10.9 Mvericks". Once that installs, you're 
> done and can start restoring your data.
> 
> For today, have you considered closing Mail completely and operating off the 
> Basic HTML version of Gmail's website instead? If you do decide to switch 
> mail providers, you can always set up forwarding so you will keep getting 
> your Gmail messages, as others have suggested.
> 
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> Alex
> mehg...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:09 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Even more hilarious now I can't even get this gmail account removed from my 
>> computer as it keeps saying this account is connected to something. Not sure 
>> what the hell it is talking about as I have removed it before, but now with 
>> the mail issues I am having and trying to remove the account craps 
>> everything out. What do I need to do a clean install? Do I just need to 
>> download Mavericks to my external drive or do I need to create a bootable 
>> thing of some kind, don't remember the steps and today things have gotten so 
>> bad and have restarted the computer five times and it isn't fixing it, so 
>> considering I am on deadline for an article to say I'm a little pissed off 
>> since I need to use gmail for this article is an understatement. Thanks.
>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:50 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Well, like Alex suggested, you can create a new gmail account and just set 
>>> it up to forward your mail to it.  This might be a little bit of a pain in 
>>> the neck, but it is a temporary solution you can reverse when the problems 
>>> are fixed.
>>> 
>>>  Or, again, install ML on an external disk and use that solely for mail 
>>> until the next version of Mavericks, 10.9.2, is released.  This is exactly 
>>> why I always keep a functioning version of the previous OS available on 
>>> external partitions.  I have them going back to Snow Leopard, in fact.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey John, 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. It definitely is a gmail and Mavericks issue 
>>>> as I have removed gmail and then reinstalled it in to the Mac Mail. When 
>>>> gmail is removed mac mail works fine. My issue is I can't switch from 
>>>> gmail to another mail provider as I have people constantly contacting em 
>>>> through gmail. So not sure what to do as I have heard from several people 
>>>> that doing a clean install did not fix their gmail problem with mac mail. 
>>>> Considering this problem doesn't happen every day tells me that it is a 
>>>> gmail and Apple Mavericks compatability issue. What angers me to no end is 
>>>> I held off upgrading to Mavericks until Apple claimed they fixed this 
>>>> issue in December so that is why I am so angry as the days when Mac Mail 
>>>> and gmail don't cooperate I can't get a thing done. I apologize for any 
>>>> misspelled words as mail is pausing so much as I type this with busy busy 
>>>> messages. And like I said everything worked fine yesterday.
>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:43 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> A few things here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> firstly, I understand frustrations and annoyances that get to someone at 
>>>>> times.  However, remember to put things into perspective.  I have had no 
>>>>> issues like your experiencing on any of my three Macs and the only couple 
>>>>> of people I know having mail issues have the common denominator as Gmail 
>>>>> being part of the problem.  So, to say that you can't recommend Macs 
>>>>> because of inconsistencies is quite drastic.  You are dealing with a 
>>>>> situation that is either system specific or gmail specific.  That has 
>>>>> little to do with the overall experience of Mavericks most people are 
>>>>> having.  No, Mavericks isn't perfect, but it ain't Windows Vista or 
>>>>> Windows 8 either by any stretch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, with that said, I would do one of 3 things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. If you have an external drive to play with, install a completely clean 
>>>>> version of Mavericks onto a blank partition.  Then, set up your Gmail 
>>>>> account first and see how it runs.  If it is all right, then try adding 
>>>>> things to that install and see what happens.  If you find that that 
>>>>> install runs in a stable environment, then you probably want to do a 
>>>>> clean install on your regular system disk.  If you still have problems, 
>>>>> well guess what?  It's not the Mac or Mavericks, but, instead, is gmail 
>>>>> or some configuration of gmail you have set up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. If you don't have an external drive, you still might want to just do a 
>>>>> clean install anyway.  I'm a big believer in clean installs for any new 
>>>>> operating system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. If the Mail is your biggest problem and suggestion 1 is either not 
>>>>> possible or just not practical with your schedule, as I know you are 
>>>>> quite busy,, you could install Mountain Lion on an external drive to do 
>>>>> mail and then use Mavericks to access Numbers and Pages.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The first alternative will give you the ability to mess with gmail, at 
>>>>> least. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care
>>>>> 
>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>>>> 
>>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
>>>>> 
>>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yesterday everything worked fine, so today if I have mail open I can't 
>>>>>> use any other programs on my computer or mail causes VoiceOver to be so 
>>>>>> choppy you can't understand a thing. Switching from gmail is not an 
>>>>>> option as I have years of mail messages archived, and everything worked 
>>>>>> fine on Mountain Lion. I don't want to go back to Mountain Lion as I 
>>>>>> need to use Numbers for work and Numbers had gotten unusable under 
>>>>>> Mountain Lion. What really pisses me off is some days the computer works 
>>>>>> fine, and the next without being shut off or put to sleep it is 
>>>>>> unusable. Even a restart doesn't fix the problems. Since starting to 
>>>>>> write this message, I have been interrupted five times with busy busy 
>>>>>> errors. I have spoken to Apple Accessibility and they know nothing. Not 
>>>>>> sure how in the world Apple could have released Mavericks with these 
>>>>>> kinds of bugs and then claimed they fixed everything. Just very 
>>>>>> frustrating. I have been a long time Apple boy and suggesting them to 
>>>>>> everyone but will never again suggest a Mac to anyone, as they used to 
>>>>>> be consistent and now are as unreliable as a PC. Sorry just had to vent. 
>>>>>> And yes, I have run disk repairs and still no fix. Who knows maybe 
>>>>>> tomorrow the computer will actually work, but that doesn't help me get 
>>>>>> the assignment done that I need to get done today.
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