Great suggestion, Alex.  I will have to remember that as a troubleshooting 
suggestion as well for gmail.


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On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To add to this, switching accounts would be pretty easy, from a message 
> storage perspective at least. You need only create the folders you want on 
> your new account, then move or copy all your messages over right from within 
> the Mail app on the Mac or iOS device.
> 
> Did you try a clean install yet? Most of my problems disappeared after I did 
> that, and I'm only noticing sluggishness now that I have Xcode, Mail, Pages, 
> Text Edit, Safari (with 6 tabs), YoruFukurou, and VMWare (inactive) open all 
> at the same time. If I close things and only have some apps open, I get even 
> better performance.
> 
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> Alex
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> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:43 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> 
>> A few things here.
>> 
>> 
>> firstly, I understand frustrations and annoyances that get to someone at 
>> times.  However, remember to put things into perspective.  I have had no 
>> issues like your experiencing on any of my three Macs and the only couple of 
>> people I know having mail issues have the common denominator as Gmail being 
>> part of the problem.  So, to say that you can't recommend Macs because of 
>> inconsistencies is quite drastic.  You are dealing with a situation that is 
>> either system specific or gmail specific.  That has little to do with the 
>> overall experience of Mavericks most people are having.  No, Mavericks isn't 
>> perfect, but it ain't Windows Vista or Windows 8 either by any stretch.
>> 
>>   Now, with that said, I would do one of 3 things.
>> 
>> 1. If you have an external drive to play with, install a completely clean 
>> version of Mavericks onto a blank partition.  Then, set up your Gmail 
>> account first and see how it runs.  If it is all right, then try adding 
>> things to that install and see what happens.  If you find that that install 
>> runs in a stable environment, then you probably want to do a clean install 
>> on your regular system disk.  If you still have problems, well guess what?  
>> It's not the Mac or Mavericks, but, instead, is gmail or some configuration 
>> of gmail you have set up.
>> 
>> 2. If you don't have an external drive, you still might want to just do a 
>> clean install anyway.  I'm a big believer in clean installs for any new 
>> operating system.
>> 
>> 3. If the Mail is your biggest problem and suggestion 1 is either not 
>> possible or just not practical with your schedule, as I know you are quite 
>> busy,, you could install Mountain Lion on an external drive to do mail and 
>> then use Mavericks to access Numbers and Pages.
>> 
>>    The first alternative will give you the ability to mess with gmail, at 
>> least. 
>> 
>> Take Care
>> 
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
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>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yesterday everything worked fine, so today if I have mail open I can't use 
>>> any other programs on my computer or mail causes VoiceOver to be so choppy 
>>> you can't understand a thing. Switching from gmail is not an option as I 
>>> have years of mail messages archived, and everything worked fine on 
>>> Mountain Lion. I don't want to go back to Mountain Lion as I need to use 
>>> Numbers for work and Numbers had gotten unusable under Mountain Lion. What 
>>> really pisses me off is some days the computer works fine, and the next 
>>> without being shut off or put to sleep it is unusable. Even a restart 
>>> doesn't fix the problems. Since starting to write this message, I have been 
>>> interrupted five times with busy busy errors. I have spoken to Apple 
>>> Accessibility and they know nothing. Not sure how in the world Apple could 
>>> have released Mavericks with these kinds of bugs and then claimed they 
>>> fixed everything. Just very frustrating. I have been a long time Apple boy 
>>> and suggesting them to everyone but will never again suggest a Mac to 
>>> anyone, as they used to be consistent and now are as unreliable as a PC. 
>>> Sorry just had to vent. And yes, I have run disk repairs and still no fix. 
>>> Who knows maybe tomorrow the computer will actually work, but that doesn't 
>>> help me get the assignment done that I need to get done today.
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