Hey John, 

Thanks for the suggestions. It definitely is a gmail and Mavericks issue as I 
have removed gmail and then reinstalled it in to the Mac Mail. When gmail is 
removed mac mail works fine. My issue is I can't switch from gmail to another 
mail provider as I have people constantly contacting em through gmail. So not 
sure what to do as I have heard from several people that doing a clean install 
did not fix their gmail problem with mac mail. Considering this problem doesn't 
happen every day tells me that it is a gmail and Apple Mavericks compatability 
issue. What angers me to no end is I held off upgrading to Mavericks until 
Apple claimed they fixed this issue in December so that is why I am so angry as 
the days when Mac Mail and gmail don't cooperate I can't get a thing done. I 
apologize for any misspelled words as mail is pausing so much as I type this 
with busy busy messages. And like I said everything worked fine yesterday.
On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:43 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> 
> A few things here.
> 
> 
> firstly, I understand frustrations and annoyances that get to someone at 
> times.  However, remember to put things into perspective.  I have had no 
> issues like your experiencing on any of my three Macs and the only couple of 
> people I know having mail issues have the common denominator as Gmail being 
> part of the problem.  So, to say that you can't recommend Macs because of 
> inconsistencies is quite drastic.  You are dealing with a situation that is 
> either system specific or gmail specific.  That has little to do with the 
> overall experience of Mavericks most people are having.  No, Mavericks isn't 
> perfect, but it ain't Windows Vista or Windows 8 either by any stretch.
> 
>   Now, with that said, I would do one of 3 things.
> 
> 1. If you have an external drive to play with, install a completely clean 
> version of Mavericks onto a blank partition.  Then, set up your Gmail account 
> first and see how it runs.  If it is all right, then try adding things to 
> that install and see what happens.  If you find that that install runs in a 
> stable environment, then you probably want to do a clean install on your 
> regular system disk.  If you still have problems, well guess what?  It's not 
> the Mac or Mavericks, but, instead, is gmail or some configuration of gmail 
> you have set up.
> 
> 2. If you don't have an external drive, you still might want to just do a 
> clean install anyway.  I'm a big believer in clean installs for any new 
> operating system.
> 
> 3. If the Mail is your biggest problem and suggestion 1 is either not 
> possible or just not practical with your schedule, as I know you are quite 
> busy,, you could install Mountain Lion on an external drive to do mail and 
> then use Mavericks to access Numbers and Pages.
> 
>    The first alternative will give you the ability to mess with gmail, at 
> least. 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
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> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yesterday everything worked fine, so today if I have mail open I can't use 
>> any other programs on my computer or mail causes VoiceOver to be so choppy 
>> you can't understand a thing. Switching from gmail is not an option as I 
>> have years of mail messages archived, and everything worked fine on Mountain 
>> Lion. I don't want to go back to Mountain Lion as I need to use Numbers for 
>> work and Numbers had gotten unusable under Mountain Lion. What really pisses 
>> me off is some days the computer works fine, and the next without being shut 
>> off or put to sleep it is unusable. Even a restart doesn't fix the problems. 
>> Since starting to write this message, I have been interrupted five times 
>> with busy busy errors. I have spoken to Apple Accessibility and they know 
>> nothing. Not sure how in the world Apple could have released Mavericks with 
>> these kinds of bugs and then claimed they fixed everything. Just very 
>> frustrating. I have been a long time Apple boy and suggesting them to 
>> everyone but will never again suggest a Mac to anyone, as they used to be 
>> consistent and now are as unreliable as a PC. Sorry just had to vent. And 
>> yes, I have run disk repairs and still no fix. Who knows maybe tomorrow the 
>> computer will actually work, but that doesn't help me get the assignment 
>> done that I need to get done today.
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