Hey Tim, Thanks for the suggestion will try that. It just hit me that now at least for me VoiceOver doesn't work with Microsoft or Google, kind of defeats having a computer. Yes, I know there are work arounds and other solutions, but it hit me as odd that Apple is having so many issues with Microsoft and Google products. On Feb 9, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Brian, > > One thing that you may wish to do is to go into your Mail Prefs, in the > General pane and set Mail to check less often. If you have it set to > Automatically, or every minute, then with only 4 GB of RAM and a spinning > drive, you're likely getting lag issues as your computer accesses virtual > memory on the spinning drive. If you, for example, set your Mail to check > for new messages only every 30 minutes, your computer shouldn't lag > consistently, only when it's polling for new messages. Also, yes, 4 GB is > alright but I suspect that an upgrade to 8 GB would eliminate some of your > frustration. I was running with 8GB and a spinning HD and didn't experience > any real problems like you are having. BTW, I just installed an SSD in my > MBP and, wow, what a difference in performance. I realize that not everyone > needs the SSD nor is it in the cards financially for others, but it does make > a considerable difference in performance. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Feb 9, 2014, at 3:50 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well, like Alex suggested, you can create a new gmail account and just set >> it up to forward your mail to it. This might be a little bit of a pain in >> the neck, but it is a temporary solution you can reverse when the problems >> are fixed. >> >> Or, again, install ML on an external disk and use that solely for mail >> until the next version of Mavericks, 10.9.2, is released. This is exactly >> why I always keep a functioning version of the previous OS available on >> external partitions. I have them going back to Snow Leopard, in fact. >> >> >> Take Care >> >> John D. Panarese >> Director >> Mac for the Blind >> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >> >> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >> >> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >> >> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >> >> >> >> On Feb 9, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey John, >>> >>> Thanks for the suggestions. It definitely is a gmail and Mavericks issue as >>> I have removed gmail and then reinstalled it in to the Mac Mail. When gmail >>> is removed mac mail works fine. My issue is I can't switch from gmail to >>> another mail provider as I have people constantly contacting em through >>> gmail. So not sure what to do as I have heard from several people that >>> doing a clean install did not fix their gmail problem with mac mail. >>> Considering this problem doesn't happen every day tells me that it is a >>> gmail and Apple Mavericks compatability issue. What angers me to no end is >>> I held off upgrading to Mavericks until Apple claimed they fixed this issue >>> in December so that is why I am so angry as the days when Mac Mail and >>> gmail don't cooperate I can't get a thing done. I apologize for any >>> misspelled words as mail is pausing so much as I type this with busy busy >>> messages. And like I said everything worked fine yesterday. >>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:43 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Brian, >>>> >>>> >>>> A few things here. >>>> >>>> >>>> firstly, I understand frustrations and annoyances that get to someone at >>>> times. However, remember to put things into perspective. I have had no >>>> issues like your experiencing on any of my three Macs and the only couple >>>> of people I know having mail issues have the common denominator as Gmail >>>> being part of the problem. So, to say that you can't recommend Macs >>>> because of inconsistencies is quite drastic. You are dealing with a >>>> situation that is either system specific or gmail specific. That has >>>> little to do with the overall experience of Mavericks most people are >>>> having. No, Mavericks isn't perfect, but it ain't Windows Vista or >>>> Windows 8 either by any stretch. >>>> >>>> Now, with that said, I would do one of 3 things. >>>> >>>> 1. If you have an external drive to play with, install a completely clean >>>> version of Mavericks onto a blank partition. Then, set up your Gmail >>>> account first and see how it runs. If it is all right, then try adding >>>> things to that install and see what happens. If you find that that >>>> install runs in a stable environment, then you probably want to do a clean >>>> install on your regular system disk. If you still have problems, well >>>> guess what? It's not the Mac or Mavericks, but, instead, is gmail or some >>>> configuration of gmail you have set up. >>>> >>>> 2. If you don't have an external drive, you still might want to just do a >>>> clean install anyway. I'm a big believer in clean installs for any new >>>> operating system. >>>> >>>> 3. If the Mail is your biggest problem and suggestion 1 is either not >>>> possible or just not practical with your schedule, as I know you are quite >>>> busy,, you could install Mountain Lion on an external drive to do mail and >>>> then use Mavericks to access Numbers and Pages. >>>> >>>> The first alternative will give you the ability to mess with gmail, at >>>> least. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John D. Panarese >>>> Director >>>> Mac for the Blind >>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>> >>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>> >>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>> >>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 9, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yesterday everything worked fine, so today if I have mail open I can't >>>>> use any other programs on my computer or mail causes VoiceOver to be so >>>>> choppy you can't understand a thing. Switching from gmail is not an >>>>> option as I have years of mail messages archived, and everything worked >>>>> fine on Mountain Lion. I don't want to go back to Mountain Lion as I need >>>>> to use Numbers for work and Numbers had gotten unusable under Mountain >>>>> Lion. What really pisses me off is some days the computer works fine, and >>>>> the next without being shut off or put to sleep it is unusable. Even a >>>>> restart doesn't fix the problems. Since starting to write this message, I >>>>> have been interrupted five times with busy busy errors. I have spoken to >>>>> Apple Accessibility and they know nothing. Not sure how in the world >>>>> Apple could have released Mavericks with these kinds of bugs and then >>>>> claimed they fixed everything. Just very frustrating. I have been a long >>>>> time Apple boy and suggesting them to everyone but will never again >>>>> suggest a Mac to anyone, as they used to be consistent and now are as >>>>> unreliable as a PC. Sorry just had to vent. And yes, I have run disk >>>>> repairs and still no fix. 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