On 4 February 2014 13:57, Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> wrote:

We can refer to our conscious states because the base phenomena on which
> our conscious states supervene cause our vocal cords to move in a
> particular way. But it is wrong to say, except in a loose way of speaking,
> that our conscious states cause our vocal cords to move. The supervenient
> phenomenon follows in a straightforward way (by virtue of being
> supervenient) without the need for downward causation.


But then there is no entailment that the movements of our vocal cords refer
to conscious states, is there? They're just physical systems following
physical causation, at whatever level of analysis. If so, I'd like to know
what reason you have to take seriously your own assertions that you are
conscious, since the only evidence is presumably neuronal behaviour that
falls victim to the same analysis you give above. Or do you claim to have
access to some other method of "knowing you are conscious"?

David

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