Re: [Tagging] Addresses with PO Box, and other delivery type addresses.

2020-03-18 Thread Warin
s anything else missing, which can't be mapped with these tags or with Key:addr:* ? If none of the common values of addr:* will work, you can use addr:full=* https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr%3Afull -- Joseph Eisenberg On 3/19/20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Wh

Re: [Tagging] Addresses with PO Box, and other delivery type addresses.

2020-03-18 Thread Warin
street 'PRIVATE BAG 32'. As mentioned, addr:full could work Yes, that seams suitable  .. I had skipped over it assuming that the rest was to do with physical features, sorry. But it won't be parsed by software. I don't think that will matter much. On Thu, Mar 19, 2020

Re: [Tagging] Addresses with PO Box, and other delivery type addresses.

2020-03-19 Thread Warin
On 20/3/20 9:27 am, Andrew Davidson wrote: On 20/03/2020 1:41 am, Tobias Wrede wrote: Mail delivery address I would expect to find under the contact:* scheme if at all. Probably under contact:mail, however most of the current values: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/contact%3Amail#v

Re: [Tagging] Addresses with PO Box, and other delivery type addresses.

2020-03-20 Thread Warin
On 21/3/20 9:00 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 at 21:55, Jan Michel > wrote: Yes. We shouldn't have a separate tag for each and every company that offers such services. No, that get's very unwieldy, very quickly, especially when you

Re: [Tagging] Clearer definition of tunnel=flooded: when should it be used instead of tunnel=yes or tunnel=culvert?

2020-03-22 Thread Warin
On 23/3/20 9:08 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 19:09, François Lacombe mailto:fl.infosrese...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Volker, ... Fully disposed to make any improvement to wiki according to those points. Thanks, Francois. There is possibly a language bias (e

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-25 Thread Warin
On 25/3/20 8:26 pm, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, the "name:xx" tags are something of an exception in OSM because while we defer to "local knowledge" as the highest-ranking source normally, this is not being done for name:xx tags. It is possible for no single citizen of the city of Karlsruhe to know

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Key:locked

2020-03-25 Thread Warin
On 26/3/20 12:52 pm, Andrew Harvey wrote: I've put together a proposal for Key:locked at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:locked which I'm proposing to use on barriers like gates to describe physical access restriction via a lock. Taginfo records 908 current uses htt

Re: [Tagging] Which languages are admissible for name:xx tags?

2020-03-26 Thread Warin
On 25/3/20 10:30 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 25. März 2020 um 10:27 Uhr schrieb Frederik Ramm mailto:frede...@remote.org>>: In my opinion, a name:xx tag should only be added if you can demonstrate that people natively speaking the living language xx are actually using

Re: [Tagging] Veterinary pharmacy

2020-03-28 Thread Warin
On 28/3/20 6:12 pm, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Hello, I have a question about this tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dveterinary_pharmacy It's not much adopted and in unknown status. Should we use it? Some pharmacies also sells veterinary medical supplies, how to choose wh

Re: [Tagging] Veterinary pharmacy

2020-03-28 Thread Warin
On 28/3/20 7:51 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 28. Mar 2020, at 08:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: veterinary medical supplies, how to choose what amenity? <#> On 28/3/20 6:12 pm, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Hello, I have a question about this

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

2020-03-28 Thread Warin
On 29/3/20 8:18 am, Clifford Snow wrote: Richard - and anyone else who can help. Can someone help with an overpass query to find problem route relations? I'm happy to help fix, but my overpass skills are, well to put it bluntly, not worth shit:-) You are not alone. However looking at waym

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

2020-03-29 Thread Warin
On 29/3/20 5:18 am, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Hello folks, Route relation names aren’t in a great state, are they? Let’s say that I want to render cycle route names on a map (because, well, I do). I zoom in on a way along the East Coast of Britain and I find it’s a member of this route:  http

Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

2020-03-29 Thread Warin
On 30/3/20 9:18 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: On Mon, 30 Mar 2020 at 00:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm looking at a cycle route now. Could we have the relation number please? Unorganized relation 2073457 One that is alre

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

2020-04-10 Thread Warin
The minimum an RFC is required to be open is 2 weeks. Same with voting. On 11/4/20 1:54 am, Manon Viou wrote: Hello all, We have modified the proposed features/Refugee Site Location 2  according to discussions re

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Pumps (wells and many other things)

2020-04-12 Thread Warin
motion_driver=manual says Hands as the main way to drive the pump That is not the only 'manual' drive... Example - horse powered https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/illustration/horse-powdered-pump-royalty-free-illustration/172430485 Note that the horse could be substituted by several humans.

Re: [Tagging] Request for assistance in creating a tag.

2020-04-13 Thread Warin
At present there is the key healtcare. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare Some initial thoughts? healthcare:specialty=HIV_testing healthcare:specialty=HIV_treatment HIV dispensary ... would be a pharmacy? amenity =pharmacy and

Re: [Tagging] Things within things | Re: Request for assistance in creating a tag.

2020-04-13 Thread Warin
, and a clinic can also have a small office for HIV patients (not specifically another clinic). Thanks Joseph and Warin most. of the cases are really similar here. For treatment hubs - yes this is for inpatients similarly for the one you described. This is are mostly hospitals but in some cases

Re: [Tagging] Request for assistance in creating a tag.

2020-04-13 Thread Warin
On 13/4/20 8:25 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: ... Currently, what we are tagging is the hospital. So for example, Manila Hospital (tagged as a hospital) we add the tags like disease:hiv=yes. say that it is a treatment facility and it dispenses hiv medicine. But what i am having difficulty is that h

Re: [Tagging] Things within things | Re: Request for assistance in creating a tag.

2020-04-13 Thread Warin
ty=clinic is fine. If they admit inpatients into a special part of the hospital, then a new tag like healthcare=department / hospital_department is a good idea. -- Joseph Eisenberg On 4/13/20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 13/4/20 7:27 pm, Rory McCann wrote: I think this is a ca

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

2020-04-14 Thread Warin
roposed features/Refugee Site Location 2 <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Refugee_Site_Location_2>) Have a great day, Manon Le 11 avril 2020 à 00:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : The minimum an RFC is required to be open is 2 weeks. Same with vo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

2020-04-15 Thread Warin
up to date so counting buildings may not be possible. Le 15 avril 2020 à 11:36, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com <mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> a écrit : sent from a phone On 15. Apr 2020, at 01:13, Warin < 61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com&g

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

2020-04-16 Thread Warin
On 16/4/20 7:59 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 16. Apr 2020, at 05:04, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Some paths and footways have oneway=yes. Sometimes this means that bicycles may only access these features in one direction, but other times it has been used for one-way featur

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

2020-04-17 Thread Warin
On 17/4/20 5:29 am, Manon Viou wrote: Hello, According to Martin and Warin, the difference between large and small refugee site is not clear enough, Martin suggested to use population capacity, for instance less than 200 people fro small refugee site, Warin suggested to use number of square

Re: [Tagging] Tagging and rendering places without a name

2020-04-18 Thread Warin
Your on the right list! Over 83% of the tagged 'place's have a name tag. What kind of 'places' that don't have a name that will not be rendered are there? A quick look in Nigeria... Some of these are hamlets, villages that can be mapped as landuse=residential that will be rendered even with

Re: [Tagging] Tagging and rendering places without a name

2020-04-20 Thread Warin
On 21/4/20 5:31 am, Florimond Berthoux wrote: Hi Hidde, welcome, The wiki definition is « Used to indicate that a particular location is known by a particular name, to indicate what sort of "place" it is. A place tag should exist for every significant human settlements (city, town, suburb, et

Re: [Tagging] Tagging and rendering places without a name

2020-04-21 Thread Warin
On 21/4/20 6:59 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Di., 21. Apr. 2020 um 06:03 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: So by the definition I see no issue of having place without a name tag, as long as it has a name :) Errr If it has a

Re: [Tagging] Points vs Polygons

2020-04-23 Thread Warin
On 20/4/20 1:51 am, Robert Castle wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm new to OSM and have been I've been making some edits on Main Street of my hometown. All the buildings seem to have been mapped, but many of the businesses are not mapped or have incomplete information, so I've been adding in the busine

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Deprecate healthcare=pharmacy

2020-04-28 Thread Warin
On 29/4/20 5:55 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: But healthcare=pharmacy was never proposed. There is no requirement that it must be proposed. It was added by a preset in iD. At the time the key “healthcare=“ was proposed, the idea of changing amenity=pharmacy was opposed by several mappers du

Re: [Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

2020-04-29 Thread Warin
On 30/4/20 6:40 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Apr 29, 2020, 21:37 by skqu...@rushpost.com: On 4/29/20 14:34, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar: https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA - larger than a

Re: [Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

2020-04-30 Thread Warin
On 30/4/20 7:29 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 30. Apr. 2020 um 11:18 Uhr schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier mailto:j...@liotier.org>>: The concept they are closest to is "plaza" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza) - which, by the way, does not seem to have currency in Opens

Re: [Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

2020-04-30 Thread Warin
On 30/4/20 8:08 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 30. Apr. 2020 um 11:59 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: On 30/4/20 7:29 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Do., 30. Apr. 2020 um 11:18 Uhr schrieb Jean-Marc Liotier

Re: [Tagging] natural=water inside natural=wetland

2020-04-30 Thread Warin
On 1/5/20 9:14 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 1 May 2020 at 01:25, Florian Lohoff mailto:f...@zz.de>> wrote: I also do consider overlapping natural and landuses to be a bug, either its a natural=scrub or a landuse=farmland. It cant be both. Sorry, Florian, but why do you sa

Re: [Tagging] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

2020-05-01 Thread Warin
On 1/5/20 9:00 pm, Florimond Berthoux wrote: +1 for highway=pedestrian + area=yes That how we map a town square in France (and every where else I guess ?) To me highway=pedestrian is more for where for where foot traffic passes rather than a place where people stop and meet. Le mer. 29 a

Re: [Tagging] Tag:amenity=motorcycle_taxi not approved

2020-05-07 Thread Warin
On 8/5/20 8:41 am, Paul Norman via Tagging wrote: On 2020-05-07 11:49 a.m., Joseph Eisenberg wrote: So, what's the next step? As a next step, I'd map motorcycle taxis as amenity=motorcycle_taxi. Vote with your mapping. +1 If those opposed don't come up with something better then they wil

Re: [Tagging] Is there any tagging scheme for carillons already?

2020-05-08 Thread Warin
On 7/5/20 1:54 am, Philip Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 14:03 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 6. May 2020, at 13:14, lukas-...@web.de wrote: In the wiki I found bell_tower=* (but without a carillon-specific value) and I think a carillon does not have to be a be

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Dog hazard

2020-05-12 Thread Warin
On 13/5/20 9:28 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 13. May 2020, at 00:27, Tod Fitch wrote: Checking taginfo it seems hazard=* [1] is in use. Why not go with it? [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/hazard there is also documentation. https://wiki.openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] Permanent ID/URI --- off topic email

2020-05-19 Thread Warin
On 19/5/20 8:01 pm, European Water Project wrote: Thank you all for responding. I've commented in order Dear François & Jo, There are 240,000 drinking fountains  nodes (with the two tag forms) tagged globally. Although, your suggestion seems a reasonable one, unless there is master plan for u

Re: [Tagging] track vs footway, cycleway, bridleway or path

2020-05-20 Thread Warin
On 21/5/20 4:28 am, Mike Thompson wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:09 PM Mike Thompson wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 11:57 AM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: However, if you are talking about a paved multi-use path, bicycle path or footway which happens to be 3 or 4 meters wide and therefore a pol

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Recreational route relation roles

2020-05-20 Thread Warin
Hi, Thanks for doing this! The excursion description is "A signposted side track which rejoins at roughly the same point where it left, usually to visit a point of interest." That would exclude a track that 'rejoins' at exactly the same point. Most of the ones I have come across are simpl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Recreational route relation roles

2020-05-20 Thread Warin
On 20/5/20 10:49 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Thanks for rescuing the useful content from that proposal. I reused images from older proposal, hopefully it is OK (but oif unwanted - feel free to revert) At least for me it is useful illustration of what the proposal is about and clear

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Recreational route relation roles

2020-05-21 Thread Warin
On 22/5/20 3:20 am, Peter Elderson wrote: Nodes with roles in the route relation deserve another proposal to make it "official". The CAI-project sounds promising, I will look into it once this business is done! My wife is learning Italian, so maybe she can even translate the text (into Dutch, f

Re: [Tagging] track vs footway, cycleway, bridleway or path

2020-05-22 Thread Warin
On 22/5/20 6:24 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. May 2020, at 03:10, Mike Thompson wrote: This seems to contradict what Mateusz said. "Way used solely to access a private residence is always highway=service, service=driveway no matter whatever it is short, long, pave

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

2020-05-23 Thread Warin
As it is the minimum width that will limit passage, I would prefer to see the minimum with tagged not the average width. On 23/5/20 3:23 am, Daniel Westergren wrote: In the short term, it's okay to tag an estimated, average width. If it's 1 to 0.3 meters, use 0.5 - this still shows a d

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

2020-05-23 Thread Warin
I tag for the use of the 'path/road/etc'. If it is for a walker then I tag the width for the walker, usually this is the width at ground level but there are ones where the smaller width is at hip level (rocks) so I tag the width there. A width of 0.3 me3ans I have to remove my pack and push it t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Recreational route relation roles

2020-05-24 Thread Warin
Local to me the 'Great North Walk' is signposted in many different ways. e.g. Post with directional arrows http://thegreatnorthwalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/ww_photo_Looking-into-Mulbinga-Street.jpg Some of these posts have no name plate so those may not be recognized by those unfamiliar.

Re: [Tagging] Change of wiki page Key:access

2020-05-24 Thread Warin
On 25/5/20 8:28 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: May 24, 2020, 23:42 by vosc...@gmail.com: The strict wording introduced by Florian is simply not practically applicable here. My questions are: Is Italy the only country with this problem? Poland used to be similar, tho

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-ml] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

2020-05-24 Thread Warin
On 4/5/20 1:12 am, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: So, this discussion gravitates towards using landuse=common for those African urban freely accessible multipurpose open spaces, which I fully support. Implementing this change requires the following actions: - Editing the leisure=common wiki page,

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

2020-05-26 Thread Warin
On 26/5/20 9:49 pm, Peter Elderson wrote: Richard Fairhurst: highway=mountain_path works for me for tagging mountain paths. Along that line, to retag all the unpaved highway=path's in Nederland with something more specific, we would need at least forest_path, dune_path, heath_path, gras

Re: [Tagging] Reviving the path discussion - the increasing importance of trails in OSM

2020-05-27 Thread Warin
On 27/5/20 11:42 pm, Volker Schmidt wrote: What has been proposed is to add a new way of tagging of what with the present tagging could be:described with highway=path plus sac_scale=hiking with a new combination of highway=path plus path=hiking I don't think that will help. Replacing sac_s

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

2018-11-26 Thread Warin
On 26/11/18 11:04, François Lacombe wrote: Hi, I think the document is complete, with all expected keys and values for this step https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Pipeline_valves_proposal Let me know if any question remains unanswered. Le jeu. 15 nov. 2018 à 01:12, Warin

Re: [Tagging] Add some tag to identify disputed borders

2018-11-26 Thread Warin
On 26/11/18 20:32, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 4:37 PM Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: > On 23. Nov 2018, at 17:33, Eugene Alvin Villar mailto:sea...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > We should be therefore able to repurpose the roles in a

Re: [Tagging] Proposed features - RFC - Pipe valves

2018-11-26 Thread Warin
On 26/11/18 22:43, Xavier wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:02:46PM +1100, Warin wrote: On 26/11/18 11:04, François Lacombe wrote: Hi, I think the document is complete, with all expected keys and values for this step https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features

Re: [Tagging] Named walking tracks following road

2018-11-27 Thread Warin
On 28/11/18 17:05, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just working on some errors identified by Map Roulette as having invalid characters in street names. One that's come up is https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=rocky%20creek%20dam#map=18/-28.63593/153.34517, where named walking tracks follow

[Tagging] telescope types ... more type nonsense

2018-11-28 Thread Warin
Hi, I have made changes to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:telescope:type This again it a 'type' key that means??? I have taken it to be "broadly categorise the spectrum that the telescope sense". Other problems .. Solar telescope ... a special kind of optical telescope .. should t

[Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-28 Thread Warin
Hi, Following from my previous post on antenna:type .. This is the first of the antenna:* keys that could be used to categorise various 'types' of antennas. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/antenna:use This one is on the use to which the antenna signal is put. It do

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-28 Thread Warin
Thanks Sergio! I have updated with some more stuff. A fair proportion from your post - comments below. Wifi sucks as a tag .. it is a system not a use. Rats. Need a value for it. On 29/11/18 14:40, Sergio Manzi wrote: Hello, Warin, a couple of quick, non-exhaustive, notes on antenna use

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 30/11/18 20:12, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: What key would you recommend, Martin? Man_made=entrance_arch? Not all are entrances, some mark the centre. No all are aches? An arch is a curved structure - some are rectangular .. portals? That is not right either. barrier=...? no Highway=...?

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 29/11/18 22:21, Sergio Manzi wrote: *At the end of the day... I think this proposal has same serious issues: the use of an antenna system can be decided only if you have internal knowledge of what it is actually used for, not just looking at the antenna.  Also, either we define a very broa

[Tagging] Astronomy telescopes vs tourist terrestrial telescopes

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
Hi I think I have come across tourist terrestrial telescopes tagged as man_made=telescope. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5627184804 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5627184805 While this is technically correct it gets rendered as an astronomy telescope. Should this be better mapped as

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 01/12/18 10:12, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:59 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: That sort of works, but do we need something to say it's a big rock, or cement column? The 'description' tag, perhaps? Things eventually get to the poi

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 01/12/18 09:49, Warin wrote: On 29/11/18 22:21, Sergio Manzi wrote: *At the end of the day... I think this proposal has same serious issues: the use of an antenna system can be decided only if you have internal knowledge of what it is actually used for, not just looking at the antenna

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-11-30 Thread Warin
On 01/12/18 13:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 11:38, Kevin Kenny <mailto:kevin.b.ke...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 5:50 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Unfortunately mappers wi

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-12-01 Thread Warin
On 02/12/18 05:49, Colin Smale wrote: On 2018-12-01 03:31, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Yep, this https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.1021508,153.4242644,3a,60y,177.95h,111.88t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEcT3AiOK4QyKpuF45oC9Aw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Re: [Tagging] antenna use key to replace some of the antenna type

2018-12-02 Thread Warin
On 29/11/18 14:40, Sergio Manzi wrote: Hello, Warin, missing key: * band=ELF|SLF|VLF|LF|MF|HF|UHF|SHF|EHF|THF ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum) Just came acrossradar_transponder:band <https://wiki.openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?

2018-12-06 Thread Warin
On 06/12/18 20:25, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: Let me clarify the meaning of those Russian words "пруд" - is usually a natural but modified by a man body of water which is smaller than lake. this is usually translated as "pond" "копанка" - is a very small body of water, escavated by an individual

Re: [Tagging] Tourism=attraction: feature or secondary tag?

2018-12-06 Thread Warin
On 07/12/18 06:49, Mark Wagner wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 17:54:44 +0100 Rory McCann wrote: On 06/12/2018 08:38, Mark Wagner wrote: Yellowstone National Park has attracted a fair few bare "tourism=attraction" objects. How would you tag the following: * Boiling River and Firehole Swimming Are

Re: [Tagging] Tourism=attraction: feature or secondary tag?

2018-12-06 Thread Warin
On 07/12/18 16:09, Yves wrote: Le 6 décembre 2018 23:05:48 GMT+01:00, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : On 07/12/18 06:49, Mark Wagner wrote: On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 17:54:44 +0100 Rory McCann wrote: On 06/12/2018 08:38, Mark Wagner wrote: Yellowstone National Park has attracted

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shared waterway highway

2018-12-08 Thread Warin
On 08/12/18 20:25, ??? ?? ? -? Dar Alathar-Yemen wrote: Many waterways (wadis) in our region used as roads when no rain days. How to tag them? is it allowed to use (waterway + highway) in same way? Similar problems in Australia Many ephemeral rivers are used for vehicle

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shared waterway highway

2018-12-08 Thread Warin
take the trouble to offset one from the other, if it were done then it is bound to be on the wrong side :) On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 7:28 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 08/12/18 20:25, ??? ?? ? -? Dar Alathar-Yemen

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shared waterway highway

2018-12-08 Thread Warin
On 08/12/18 21:57, Andy Townsend wrote: On 08/12/2018 10:31, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I would recommend drawing a separate “way” for the highway. I imagine that the route taken by vehicles or people walking is a few meters off of the center of the waterway, and perhaps a little straighter. If y

Re: [Tagging] How to tag shared waterway highway

2018-12-08 Thread Warin
On 09/12/18 02:50, Tod Fitch wrote: It would be nice if there was a way to tag the intermittent flow as ephemeral but that has been “bike shedded” to death here before. I know/hope that anyone local will have a pretty good idea about whether or not there is likely to be water in the drainage

Re: [Tagging] Can OSM become a geospacial database?

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
On 10/12/18 07:12, Daniel Koć wrote: W dniu 09.12.2018 o 12:34, Eugene Podshivalov pisze: How would you map American "streamlet", "brook", "creek" and "river" to the two generic "stream" and "river" in OSM? Currently they are just putting in the name field, so the only ways to fide all "brooks"

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
On 10/12/18 07:46, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote: I answer inline to Paul and Markus El dom., 9 dic. 2018 a las 15:12, Paul Allen (>) escribió: On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:06 PM dktue mailto:em...@daniel-korn.de>> wrote: I would like to propose a tag for em

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
On 10/12/18 10:17, Sergio Manzi wrote: I know that there are ones who think that every little detail of the world should be tagged, but I'm not of that party, and I think that I have the same right to express my opinion as they do, and no offense should be taken by neither of the two parties.

[Tagging] intermittent on wetland

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
Hi, The key intermittent is for water related things .. not just waterways but also wetlands. Just mapping Relation: Goyder's Lagoon (9092118) ... See wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goyder_Lagoon The Diamantiana Rv flows into it .. intermittently and then the Warburton Rv flows out

Re: [Tagging] leisure=hammock_hook

2018-12-09 Thread Warin
On 10/12/18 10:47, Sergio Manzi wrote: ... beside, are you sure those hooks are for hammocks? How can you hang 3 hammocks radially from the center point? There doesn't seems to be enough "angle" between them... Have you ever seen an actual hammock hanging from there? Presence of the ropes mak

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Ephemeral a water property key.

2018-12-12 Thread Warin
Hi I have reworked the ephemeral proposal. This now demonstrates; the difference between intermittent and seasonal - some want to combine them into one and see the ephemeral key as just another intermittent/seasonal thing so they vote no. that ephemeral applies to more that just streams - s

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Ephemeral a water property key.

2018-12-12 Thread Warin
culty is defining a 'short duration' in objective terms? The other small point is 'contains' .. “an ephemeral feature has the presence of water for a short duration and less than once a year, on average” But that still does not say what a 'short duration' is. Difficult

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Ephemeral a water property key.

2018-12-12 Thread Warin
On 13/12/18 11:52, Sergio Manzi wrote: Hello Warin, I think that extending the defined values for intermittent=* could yield the same result and convey the very same information *without adding a new tag* (/don't we have enough?/) Assuming (/and this is just an assumption at this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Ephemeral a water property key.

2018-12-13 Thread Warin
On 13/12/18 12:48, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2018-12-13 02:36, Warin wrote: At the moment developing a system to render seasonal values on requires a  determination on spring/summer/autumn/winter etc .. this would add some new terms. Not too hard but does add to things. Also developing a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Ephemeral a water property key.

2018-12-13 Thread Warin
w proposed values for intermittent=* No need for a new key, I think. Cheers, Sergio On 2018-12-14 00:48, Warin wrote: On 13/12/18 12:48, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2018-12-13 02:36, Warin wrote: At the moment developing a system to render seasonal values on requires a  determination on spr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Ephemeral a water property key.

2018-12-13 Thread Warin
/winter/autumn/ etc. And state that perennial be the default if untagged. Cheers! [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/presence#values On Dec 13, 2018, at 4:55 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Thoughts ... (take on Hobbit like theme - one

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Ephemeral a water property key.

2018-12-14 Thread Warin
On 14/12/18 21:29, Sergio Manzi wrote: And of course my apologies to Warin too! No need here, I have too many of my own to worry about :( On 2018-12-14 11:26, Sergio Manzi wrote: Hello Mateusz, On 2018-12-14 10:40, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: New keys are much, much better than new values

Re: [Tagging] Building names, historical/original owner?

2018-12-14 Thread Warin
I'd put it in OHM rather than OSM. OHM could develop tools that would allow scrolling through dates to 'see' things as they were. On 15/12/18 02:34, Adam Franco wrote: I have a question about `name=` and variants of names. I've been reading a lot of local history and in the architecture/history

[Tagging] Bad mapping in Pointe Noire Africa?

2018-12-15 Thread Warin
Hi I came across a lot of sport=null  .. and found it in Pointe Noire,some 18,000? Looks like there are a few other *=null there too. Anyone with any idea of what *=null might be taken as? I have made a changeset comment, but thought I'd ask here too. _

Re: [Tagging] how to map soft story/soft storey buildings properly?

2018-12-16 Thread Warin
On 16/12/18 20:15, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 15. Dec 2018, at 23:47, Stefano Maffulli > wrote: For example, building:structure is widely used to tell if buildings are made of masonry, reinforced concrete, etc. It would make sense for soft_s

[Tagging] Walking route on a beach

2018-12-19 Thread Warin
Hi, There are a few walking routes that incorporatesections of beach walking. These sections have no 'infrastructure' - they are not formed or unformed paths, they are just walking along the beach. The choice of how to map them? As I see it there are two; A) Create a Path - tagged as a pa

Re: [Tagging] Walking route on a beach

2018-12-19 Thread Warin
, especially if the area is another relation. On 20/12/18 09:07, Markus wrote: Hi Warin, i recently mapped the same situation: a costal hiking trail leading over a beach. [^1] I just mapped an empty way (choice B), but later someone added highway=footway (likely because Osmose or a similar report

Re: [Tagging] Walking route on a beach

2018-12-19 Thread Warin
areas are the same thing, in this respect. Good point on waterways! Op wo 19 dec. 2018 om 22:31 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: Hi, There are a few walking routes that incorporatesections of beach walking. These sections have n

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Top up

2018-12-26 Thread Warin
There are some vending machines that offer 'top up' ... how are these to be tagged? Together with a payment tag too. There are some convenience stores that offer 'top up' services .. how are these to be tagged? On 26/12/18 19:31, Markus wrote: Hi Daniele, From the proposal page: It's pos

Re: [Tagging] Tagging mangroves over water?

2018-12-28 Thread Warin
Here is an example of mangroves over a river Way: 49405103 P.S. the wiki says 'wetlands' can only be a closed way. Unfortunately in some cases they have to be multipolygon relations. On 29/12/18 12:55, Alan Mackie wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2018 at 20:30, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@g

Re: [Tagging] Tagging mangroves over water?

2018-12-29 Thread Warin
On 29/12/18 22:52, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Saturday 29 December 2018, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Have you seen any areas of mangroves tagged over water? That is, outside of the coastline or over natural=water or waterway=riverbank areas? [...] I think this discussion has already been made in t

Re: [Tagging] request for review: OSM wiki rewording of tourism=motel based on Wikipedia

2018-12-31 Thread Warin
I am getting the same feeling for intermittent/seasonal and ephemeral ... should all be one top level tag. Sigh. n 01/01/19 02:37, Dave Swarthout wrote: Tobias wrote: "Now that several comments here indicate that the only practical distinction today is the name on the front sign I come to thi

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
On 05/01/19 08:22, Jmapb wrote: On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: My Overpass-fu is failing me here. The only similar thing I'm turning up is summit=register, which is the "record your visit" case, rather than "you must sign in and out here," and is specific to a mountain peak. There are

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
Possibly there needs to be a main wiki page for 'disabled' features tagging, toilets, tactile paving, parking, access. On 05/01/19 07:58, Paul Allen wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 20:44, Richard > wrote: looking through the wiki can't find how parking space design

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
I would like a 'discussion' with the user on the tagging list. The tagging "sale" will generate 'discussion' with me ... I think that should be 'sells'. I have voiced that before on this list, my view has not changed. On 05/01/19 09:12, Allan Mustard wrote: Hmmm. Having recently shepherded a

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
On 05/01/19 10:34, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Following a discussion on osm-carto [1], I am looking for a suitable tagging of taxi services that are not passenger cars. Examples are motorcycle taxis and rickshaws. While the original approval for amenity=taxi (32k) [2] does not specify the vehicle typ

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
On 05/01/19 09:35, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 5:21 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I have one near me. Some are more of a 'route register' - you state your intended route as there are several choices, if not here then later. Probably best to include this i

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
On 05/01/19 14:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 07:23, Jmapb > wrote: On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Has anyone here tagged anything similar to the case I have in mind of, > "you must sign in/sign out/record your passage, and

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

2019-01-04 Thread Warin
On 05/01/19 12:57, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Yes, should definitely be a full proposal & discussion before a major change is pushed through by one user. Not mandatory in OSM ... "Any tags you like". ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

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