Re: [Sursound] TetraMic and Jaunt VR in Time, Gizmodo and Engadget (Virtual Reality Recording System)

2014-05-20 Thread Marc Lavallée
I remember; it was created in 1995, in Montreal. There was a breathing interface (a special vest with sensors), so it was a personal immersive experience: http://www.immersence.com/osmose/ -- Marc Le Mon, 19 May 2014 22:16:45 -0400, Matthew Palmer a écrit : > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Re: [Sursound] WFS systems

2014-05-21 Thread Marc Lavallée
There's a WFS installation at U. of Sherbrooke GAUS research lab, with 96 speakers: http://gaus.recherche.usherbrooke.ca/ http://gaus.recherche.usherbrooke.ca/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/WFS-salle-940x340.jpg -- Marc Le Wed, 21 May 2014 20:21:26 -0300, Augustine Leudar a écrit : > oh a

Re: [Sursound] TetraMic and Jaunt VR in Time, Gizmodo and Engadget (Virtual Reality Recording System)

2014-05-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
agree that the breathing interface is the great idea. -- Marc > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 7:31 AM, Marc Lavallée > wrote: > > > > > I remember; it was created in 1995, in Montreal. > > There was a breathing interface (a special vest with sensors), > > so it

Re: [Sursound] TetraMic and Jaunt VR in Time, Gizmodo and Engadget (Virtual Reality Recording System)

2014-05-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
ould put one > out for the Oculus/any other HMD but never received a reply. > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Marc Lavallée > wrote: > > > Hi Matthew. > > > > Le Thu, 22 May 2014 22:53:29 -0400, > > Matthew Palmer a écrit : > > >

Re: [Sursound] brahma comparison

2014-06-21 Thread Marc Lavallée
Umashankar, The torrent file is not available yet; I will fix that problem later, and I will send a message on the list to confirm that the download process is working. Marc Sat, 21 Jun 2014 20:44:14 +0530, umashankar manthravadi wrote: > dear all > > I have just posted to ambisonia a recor

Re: [Sursound] brahma comparison

2014-06-22 Thread Marc Lavallée
The torrent files are now seeded by Ambisonia: http://www.ambisonia.com/Members/umashankar/ambisonicfile.2014-04-12.1474707546/ http://www.ambisonia.com/Members/umashankar/ambisonicfile.2014-06-21.5711132165/ I temporarily doubled the limit per download to 200Kbps to encourage sursounders to do

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:28:47 -0500, Sero wrote : > Hello All, Hello Serafino. > First, thank you very much for this amazing and very useful mailing > list. > > I have a query that might look like it is very newbie but it has > created a big confusion in my head when someone asked that to me > rece

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
Tue, 1 Jul 2014 21:44:49 +0530, umashankar manthravadi wrote : > I have a completely untested theory that if the loudspeakers are > mounted flush to room boundaries, reflections will not be an issue. a > 1st order system might then work with Omni (in this case > hemispherical) speaker directivity

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics rig - loudspeakers directivity

2014-07-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Fons. Tue, 1 Jul 2014 16:45:31 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote : > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 09:28:47AM -0500, Sero wrote: > > > I am very confused about this because I cannot find any reference > > on this on any pubblication or discussion on the net. > > My feeling is that the larger directivi

Re: [Sursound] Calculating speaker placement

2014-07-09 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Steve. You can use "golden rectangles" (of ratio 1/1.618) to calculate placements of your speakers. You can refer to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icosahedron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodecahedron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_rectangle -- Marc Wed, 9 Jul 2014 23:51:00 +0100, Ste

Re: [Sursound] Calculating speaker placement (Marc Lavall?e)

2014-07-11 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Steve. I understand your problem. I have a similar one; in my case the calculations and the installation were easy, but I'd like to measure the exact angular positions of the (installed) loudspeakers. First you need the angular positions of the loudspeakers from the listening spot. It should

Re: [Sursound] Calculating speaker placement (Marc Lavall?e)

2014-07-13 Thread Marc Lavallée
Fri, 11 Jul 2014 21:12:42 -0400, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote : > There's a laser distance measuring device from Bosch with built in > incline measuring aka electronic level. Not too expensive and useful > for many other things as well. > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005AZZNXE/ref=as_li_tl?ie=U

Re: [Sursound] Fireworkss...

2014-07-13 Thread Marc Lavallée
Sun, 13 Jul 2014 21:45:49 +0100, Dave Malham wrote : > filmed with a drone. Would have been even more amazing if it could > have had an on-board B format mic... > > http://youtu.be/a9KZ3jgbbmI > > Dave > > Yeah, yeah, machine noise, wind noise... but one can dream. A microphone attached to

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-07-19 Thread Marc Lavallée
Sat, 19 Jul 2014 11:13:11 +0200, Ralf R Radermacher wrote : > Am 18.07.14 15:21, schrieb Rupert Brun: > > The BBC will make the BBC Proms Concerts available in 4.0 using > > MPEG-DASH. The stream will be available internationally. > > Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a M

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-07-19 Thread Marc Lavallée
e you can try remapping Alsa channels in a custom Alsa config file, setting the ALSA_CONFIG_PATH environment variable to this file before starting Chromium: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/LibEnvVars -- Marc Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:39:45 +, wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 10:00:20AM -0

Re: [Sursound] www.michaelgerzonphotos.org.uk offline?

2014-07-31 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:56:46 +0100, Paul Hodges wrote: > --On 31 July 2014 10:17 -0400 Daniel Courville > wrote: > > > Seems that www.michaelgerzonphotos.org.uk is offline. > > I am currently looking into whether it will be possible to revive > this, or at least to repair specific links to imag

Re: [Sursound] Splitting a 10.2 file

2014-09-03 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hello Augustine. You can use ffmpeg (available for Windows). Here's how to split a 6 channels file in 6 mono files: ffmpeg -y -i Nums_5dot1_24_48000.wav \ -acodec pcm_s24le -map_channel 0.0.0 1.wav \ -acodec pcm_s24le -map_channel 0.0.1 2.wav \ -acodec pcm_s24le -map_channel 0.0.2 3.wav \ -acodec

Re: [Sursound] Splitting a 10.2 file

2014-09-04 Thread Marc Lavallée
sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfil

Re: [Sursound] Splitting a 10.2 file

2014-09-04 Thread Marc Lavallée
Oops! I sent my message by accident... Augustine, here's how to extract your channels with sox, one by one (without coding): sox myfile.wav myfile01.wav remix 1 sox myfile.wav myfile02.wav remix 2 sox myfile.wav myfile03.wav remix 3 sox myfile.wav myfile04.wav remix 4 sox myfile.wav myfile05.wav

Re: [Sursound] Splitting a 10.2 file

2014-09-05 Thread Marc Lavallée
I just compiled CDP multi-channel toolkit on Linux, and tried channelx, which is very small (48k), and works like a charm. Marc Le Fri, 05 Sep 2014 11:58:45 +0100, Richard Dobson a écrit : > Unfortunately it not quite as easy as it should be, as companies such > as Steinberg and Digidesign "e

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) for Reaper - Public beta v.1.0.b3

2014-09-12 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Trond. On the download page ( http://www.ambisonictoolkit.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Downloads ) it says: "Using the ReaJS plugin, part of the ReaPlugs VST FX Suite(external link), ATK for Reaper can also be used with other DAWs on Windows, provided that they support VST plugins." On the Rea

Re: [Sursound] Call for works - reach - a non-stop playlist of bFormat sound and music

2014-11-04 Thread Marc Lavallée
The files on Ambisonia are already exposed to the world as torrents. Some could be included in the list. -- Marc On Tue, 4 Nov 2014 02:59:01 -0700, Bearcat M. Şándor wrote : > I'd ask that any pieces that are in the public domain, copyleft, open > etc, be listed publicly so we have a good list o

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 07:30:17 +0100, David Pickett wrote: > At 00:54 14-12-14, Louis Mustill wrote: > >Not used it myself but this might be of interest. > >They make lovely kit generally. > > > >http://www.sounddevices.com/products/970/ > > I should hope so at $4,629.00! > > http://www.bhphoto

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:44:32 +0530, umashankar manthravadi wrote: > I have been planning to integrate the other half - eight channel usb > d to a convertor built into an eight channel amplifier so you get rid > of all the input wiring and just connect usb. 16 bit 48 k is possible > right now but no

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-18 Thread Marc Lavallée
uality. It requires Linux and/or Android development skills, time and patience... -- Marc On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:40:11 +, mick ritchie wrote: > Any links to this pi and usb sound module options? > > mick > On 14 Dec 2014, at 13:04, Marc Lavallée wrote: > > On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 0

Re: [Sursound] AES69-2015 standard for file exchange - Spatial acoustic data file format

2015-03-15 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Mr. Noisternig. At first glance, this data file format is about binaural measurement and rendering, and not about multi-channel based auditory scene representation. I don't have access to the AES library, but the SOFA specs are freely available, and I suppose the standard is based on the specs.

Re: [Sursound] AES69-2015 standard for file exchange - Spatial acoustic data file format

2015-03-15 Thread Marc Lavallée
d not a “spatial > audio” format. You could of course use AES69/SOFA to store > multichannel audio data, but I would recommend using more convenient > multichannel audio data file formats such us broadcast WAV. > > I hope that this answers your questions? > > Kind regards, >

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com

2015-04-16 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:15:46 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > can't comment on the 28, but .4 is very very nice indeed. > > i just built a third-order horizontal system for LAC 2015 with only > two subwoofers, and it took a lot of tweaking to hide all the wrong > localisation cues that two fron

Re: [Sursound] UHJ anyone?

2015-04-17 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Steve. The web site does not mention that the piece is UHJ encoded; so can you tell me how you know that it is UHJ encoded? The player on the site is streaming from soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/immersive-audio Do you know if the other piece, "Leaf Power", is also UHJ encoded? -- Marc On

Re: [Sursound] UHJ anyone?

2015-04-19 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Eero. Your method is similar to what Fons explained here: http://kokkinizita.linuxaudio.org/ambisonics/uhjtest/ Fons is using his own software, while you are using a goniometer. Is your goniometer part of a UHJ decoding hardware, or software? It would be nice to have a common method to detect

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com

2015-04-19 Thread Marc Lavallée
pment. -- Marc On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 16:36:55 +0100, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > >Marc Lavallée wrote: > >A third sub would have been enough. I use a equilateral triangle of > >small subs, in a left/right/rear configuration, half a meter from the > >floor. > >-- > >Marc

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com

2015-04-19 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Jörn. On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 20:50:53 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > frankly, i'm waiting for some well-funded ambisonics wizarding school > to go one step further and start building a mixed-order three-way > system with a few subs, a few more midrange enclosures and many, many > small hf unit

Re: [Sursound] ENVELOP - 3D Sound, on Kickstarter.com

2015-04-19 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Stefan. With two subs, I would place them at front-left and front-right, and I would decode to frontal stereo. For horizontal-only, Ambisonics requires at least 3 speakers. In both cases, there could be some directional cues, but only for frequencies a bit higher than the Schroeder frequenc

[Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hello sursounders. Please visit http://ambisonic.xyz/ using the Chrome browser on your desktop or laptop. I made this demo in the form of a poster; it was presented yesterday at http://ix.sat.qc.ca/ -- Marc ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.e

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le Sat, 23 May 2015 13:06:01 +0100, Paul Hodges a écrit : > --On 23 May 2015 07:44 -0400 Marc Lavallée wrote: > > > Please visit http://ambisonic.xyz/ > > using the Chrome browser > > Opera works, too (it's now based on the Chrome rendering engine). > &

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Mon, 25 May 2015 06:59:37 +, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: > - and the ultimate version is of course Stereoscopic video , > Ideas around this can be seen here > http://elevr.com/audio-for-vr-film/ and they have even heard of > ambisonics but have only fixed stereo so far but 3D surround video Hi

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Marc Lavallée
of > ambisonics but have only fixed stereo so far but 3D surround video > > Best Regards > Bo-Erik Sandholm > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of > Marc Lavallée Sent: den 23 maj 2015 13

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Marc Lavallée
und this can be seen here > http://elevr.com/audio-for-vr-film/ and they have even heard of > ambisonics but have only fixed stereo so far but 3D surround video > > Best Regards > Bo-Erik Sandholm > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...

Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz

2015-05-25 Thread Marc Lavallée
udiocontext-interface But I don't know if the result could be streamed to a file. To be verified. Thanks for the idea. -- Marc > From: Marc Lavallée > To: sursound@music.vt.edu Sent: Monday, 25 May > 2015, 12:17 Subject: Re: [Sursound] ambisonic.xyz On Mon, 25 May 2015 > 08:43:25 +

Re: [Sursound] Directional confusion between different B-format players

2015-06-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:04:39 - (GMT), Michael Chapman wrote: > Get Aaron Heller's "Eight Positions" off Ambisonia and massage that > through your two bits of software ? Here's a direct download link: http://www.ai.sri.com/ajh/ambisonics/AJH_eight-positions.amb -- Marc __

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 83, Issue 18

2015-07-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:49:25 +0100 Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Hi... > > http://www.sonicvr.com > > > > The patented technology within Sonic VR headphones can turn 7.1 > > surround sound into an even more immersive sound experience. > > ? An interview reveals that there's a few drivers in the

Re: [Sursound] new brahmas

2015-07-21 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 18:43:51 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote : > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 09:23:16PM +0530, umashankar manthravadi > wrote: > > > The other is an eight channel microphone > > that I will ship to angelo, hoping he will develop a calibration > > process to create 9 channel second order r

Re: [Sursound] ambisonics audio for 360 film (VR)

2015-07-22 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hello Henk. On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:38:53 +0200, "Henk | Spook.fm" wrote : > My question is: Who can help us find the best libraries for > ambisonics audio to use in the 360 Video player. I started a similar project, for the web: http://ambisonic.xyz/ A new version (working, but not yet published)

[Sursound] OZO?

2015-07-31 Thread Marc Lavallée
The upcoming Ozo spherical camera by Nokia with have 8 lens and 8 microphones capsules. That's all the specs I found. Will it use Ambisonics? -- Marc ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - uns

[Sursound] A new home for Ambisonia

2015-08-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
Dear sursounders. TL;DR There a new Ambisonia.com. It's a static version, without login. I can add new contributions manually. Here are the details: The Ambisonia.com collaborative web site was just retired from University of York, where it was hosted for a bit more than 3 years, thanks to the j

Re: [Sursound] Release of VVEncode

2015-10-08 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 23:20:27 -0500, David McGriffy wrote : > To all who requested AU support, I have a beta ready. See: > http://www.vvaudio.com/downloads Can we expect Linux and Android versions? -- Marc ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.ed

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 07:08:29 +0200, David Pickett wrote : > At 23:17 14-10-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: > > >Yeah actually the lsr308 and lsr305 have been getting rave reviews > >and cost very little their waveguide gives wide dispersal (good off > >axis response) which is probably good for spat

Re: [Sursound] Browsers that play surround sound under HTML5.

2015-10-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
The problem is that Mozilla (and maybe others) just need to fix (or better document) their version of the Web Audio API. Then it'd be possible to decode ambisonic at any order. Chrome does a better job, but it's (hopefully) a temporary monopoly, since Mozilla is organising the Web Audio Conference.

Re: [Sursound] Browsers that play surround sound under HTML5.

2015-10-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
onfusing... I guess I'm not really answering your question... -- Marc On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 21:32:14 +0100 Augustine Leudar wrote: > What about other forms of surround sound that are not ambisonics ? > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, Marc Lavallée wrote: > > > The problem is

Re: [Sursound] Browsers that play surround sound under HTML5.

2015-10-27 Thread Marc Lavallée
. It's a mess all > right . > > On Friday, 23 October 2015, Marc Lavallée wrote: > > > Hi Augustime. > > > > I used Ambisonics as an example (or a "use case"); all surround > > formats requires more than 2 channels (appart from UHJ). The > >

Re: [Sursound] 8 channels on 12 volts

2015-11-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
Power efficiency is a good reason to use class-D amps instead of class A-B amps. Class-D amps dissipates much less heat than class A-B amps, and are returning power to the supply; this power can be stored temporarely in big filtering capacitors (in parallel with the supply output); if big enough,

Re: [Sursound] 8 channels on 12 volts

2015-11-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 1 Nov 2015 11:08:12 -0500, I wrote: (replying to myself): > Reference: > http://www.powerguru.org/class-d-audio-amplifier-matches-class-ab-with-higher-efficiency/ > Look at the graphs at the end of the article; at low power, A-B amps > are extremely inneficient; this is not a problem on sys

Re: [Sursound] Acousmatic

2015-11-21 Thread Marc Lavallée
Thanks Ero for the reference. The contribution of Michel Chion is major to understand a world where large part of sounds are coming from loudspeakers. His acousmatic music is also excellent. A bilingual glossary is available from his web site: http://michelchion.com/texts Also a free eBook editio

Re: [Sursound] WFS in a small box?

2015-11-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:58:28 -0500, jim moses wrote : > I agree it's non-sense to call that system WFS. But I do think it > could be an improvement for many listeners. I sometimes think it's > useful to think of a spectrum between stereo and WFS. Even 5.1 with a > center channel is a step along th

Re: [Sursound] Acousmatic

2015-12-04 Thread Marc Lavallée
which is > excellent. It's probably available online somewhere, but if not, you > could email him: > > http://www.mdx.ac.uk/about-us/our-people/staff-directory/dack-john > > > Em 21-11-2015 13:11, Marc Lavallée escreveu: > > Thanks Ero for the reference. The cont

Re: [Sursound] Wireless speakers

2015-12-17 Thread Marc Lavallée
A solution would be to encode all required channels in one multi-channel stream, using the Opus codec, then broadcast this single stream using a multicast IP wifi transmitter (with the UDP protocol to avoid delays), to be received by individual decoders made with small wifi equipped computers (may

Re: [Sursound] Wireless speakers

2015-12-17 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:03:33 -0700, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: > The latest Chromecast Audio seems like it could be part of a modular > solution. It would take some code to piece it together, but ti's > pretty accessible. For those proposing RaspberryPi solutions there is > the HiFiBerry DAC which

Re: [Sursound] Wireless speakers

2015-12-17 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:29:00 -0700, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: >> From: "Marc Lavallee" Date: 12/17/15 9:20 am >> > On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 08:03:33 -0700, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: >> > The latest Chromecast Audio seems like it could be part of a >> > modular solution. It would take some code to piece it

Re: [Sursound] Is the LP SV-95002(D) UHJ-encoded?

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Mr. Barton. On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 18:04:53 + Geoffrey Barton wrote: > On 7 Jan 2016, at 17:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: > > > > Message: 4 > > Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 16:08:41 -0700 > > From: Martin Leese > > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > > Subject: [Sursound] Is the LP SV-95002(D)

Re: [Sursound] YouTube adds ambisonics support

2016-01-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
It's about time! I made my little effort last year, with an experiment on http://ambisonic.xyz, but I did not updated it since. It gives me hope that ambisonics could become the "de facto" standard for 360 videos, or at least a viable and supported option. This a serious opportunity to promote am

Re: [Sursound] YouTube adds ambisonics support

2016-01-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
Albert, What you described is exactly the project I started. What's missing is the zoom feature and support for HOA. Should I continue? And make it open source? I don't have much time now... (sigh). -- Marc On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 21:43:04 + (UTC) Albert Leusink wrote: > That's great news!, w

Re: [Sursound] YouTube adds ambisonics support

2016-01-15 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 21:29:27 + (UTC) Albert Leusink wrote: > Hi Marc, Hi Albert. > Yes, I've been to your site. Awesome job!, I was really pleasantly > surprised how good it sounded and how well it localized considering > it is just browser based Browsers have support for audio process

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
The LISTEN set from IRCAM, the KEMAR set from MIT and the spherical set by R. Duda are included in the Ambisonic Toolkit. I use them on http://ambisonic.xyz/ . The spherical set is probably a good enough compromise for VR applications, because perfection is not required for a good experience. What

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:00:37 +, Stefan Schreiber wrote : > Should we "normalize" anthropometric data or (measured) HRTF data > sets? That would discriminate potential users at the sides of the normal curve... There could be a way to find a "best match" from sets of measured heads, maybe usi

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:35:03 -0500,I wrote: > There could be a way to find a "best match" from sets of measured > heads, maybe using 3D scanning, or with simple measurements. For > example, the spherical HRTF model have different diameters, which is a > good start. > > There's a paper on "Rapid Ge

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
hoto) have a future. But I'm sure that we can use existing HRTFs and adapt the experience in creative ways, as with any other audio technology, because audio producers never waited for the ultimate technology to appear and be universally adopted. -- Marc Sun, 24 Jan 2016 22:38:41 +, St

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 23:57:37 +, Stefan Schreiber wrote : > Marc, just some idea: > > If the ATK includes different HRTF sets, doesn't it already provide > an open interface/standard for exchangeable HRTF data? ATK provides HRTF data as wav files, ready to be used with convolvers. It a "read

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 01:04:30 +, Stefan Schreiber wrote : > >ATK provides HRTF data as wav files, ready to be used with > >convolvers. It a "ready to use" application specific format. > > > In which (angular) resolution, etc.? Azimuth/elevation resolution? The wav files are impulse response f

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-25 Thread Marc Lavallée
Current consumer grade VR systems are technically imperfect; we can see the pixels, there's lens aberrations and color distorsions, the field of view is limited, etc. Paired with imperfect headphones to listen to imperfect HRTF rendered content, the experience should be good enough, because it is

Re: [Sursound] Never do math in public, or my take on explaining B-format to binaural

2016-01-27 Thread Marc Lavallée
Free documents from Rozenn Nicol: https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-01066312/ http://www.sga-ssa.ch/docs/events/120510_ssa_printemps2012_01-nicol.pdf Le Wed, 27 Jan 2016 13:47:21 +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier a écrit : > On 01/27/2016 10:02 AM, florian.came...@orf.at wrote: > > Hello, > > > > m

[Sursound] Never do electronic in public. (was: Never do math in public...)

2016-01-31 Thread Marc Lavallée
Warning: the discussion is drifting to DIY electronic gadgetry. :) On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 11:16:26 +0100, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote : > I have decided to simplify the DIY head tracking dongle build and > setup in some aspects, now I have ordered this sensor that do not > need initial calibration. >

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public. (was: Never do math in public...)

2016-01-31 Thread Marc Lavallée
sh=item28015fdac7:g:-wYAAOSwBLlVTrbI > is not cheaper than the pico... > > A naked bno055 is 13 usd on ali express but needs a circuit board and > be built to combine with the esp-01. > > So 2 small modules and a battery is the system, and be mounted on the > headband of a headset.

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-01-31 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Mon, 01 Feb 2016 01:17:42 +, Stefan Schreiber wrote : > Again: You need a defined plan what your device is supposed to do, to > connect to which devices (PCs? iOS/Android devices? ...), etc. The plan is to track the orientation of a moving body part that is known to affect our ability to

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-01-31 Thread Marc Lavallée
;s http://ambisonic.xyz/ (without a s). It still works (but only for Chrome based browsers) -- Marc > umashankar > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > From: Marc Lavallée<mailto:m...@hacklava.net> > Sent: Mond

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-01 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le Mon, 1 Feb 2016 22:01:26 +0100, Bo-Erik Sandholm a écrit : > http://hackaday.com/2016/02/01/ftdi-drivers-break-fake-chips-again/ > In the near future serial over USB with windows might be flaky. That may be another reason to go wireless... A new chip, the esp32 (still in beta) is an upgrade

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-02 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 16:46:33 +0530, umashankar manthravadi wrote: > One more question. How useful or effective is it to have headtracking > only on the horizontal axis ? will it help at all ? > > umashankar The horizontal axis is the most important and the easiest. With a horizontal only decoder,

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-05 Thread Marc Lavallée
Another interesting chip is the Simblee, for "simple bluetooth low energy" (a quick search is recommended) Strong points: - small - low power Bluetooth - low latency communication - embedded micro-controller with 29 GPIOs - Arduino programming - with a special mobile application framework (th

Re: [Sursound] Dialogue in center channel,,, not always

2016-02-06 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 12:04:01 +, John Leonard wrote: > As for the up-mix to Dolby Atmos that happened for the second film, I > had no control over how the effects were sourced and the result in > the cinema was pretty terrible, and totally unnecessary. Rain makes a > noise when it hits a surfac

Re: [Sursound] OSSIC Kickstarter Campaign Begins

2016-02-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
It’d be nice to learn more about the auto-calibration feature. It looks like only the diameter of the head is monitored. — Marc > On Feb 23, 2016, at 10:48 PM, len moskowitz > wrote: > > OSSIC (formerly Sonic VR) has designed prototypes of headphones that do > automatic HRTF calculation and h

Re: [Sursound] OSSIC Kickstarter Campaign Begins

2016-02-24 Thread Marc Lavallée
e HRTF to > a large extent. I have been intending to build one into a motorcycle > helmet. You will then only need headtracking for a stable image. > OSSIC is an eight driver system. > > > umashankar > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986&

Re: [Sursound] Flac for FOA or amb files?

2016-03-25 Thread Marc Lavallée
To assemble FOA files in amb files, I use channelx and interlx from the CDP suite: http://www.unstablesound.net/cdp.html channelx is to extract channels to mono files, while interlx is to interleave mono files in a proper amb file (with the appropriate WAVE_EX Ambisonic header) that can be correc

Re: [Sursound] Static stereo source in rotating soundfield, possible?

2016-03-26 Thread Marc Lavallée
What about mixing two ambisonic streams: one fixed ambisonic rendered stereo + one rotated soundfield? -- Marc On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 16:40:59 +0100 Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 03/26/2016 05:58 AM, Albert Leusink wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Is it possible to have a non-rotating stereo source in

Re: [Sursound] Anyone know anything about this?

2016-04-08 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Fri, 8 Apr 2016 13:00:20 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote : > On 04/07/2016 08:13 PM, Marc Lavallee wrote: > > > > The FAQ says: > > "audio is recorded in 96 KHz/16 bit quality" > > > > I would prefer 48 KHz/24 bit. > > let's not discuss matters of taste, but rather keep things scientific. >

Re: [Sursound] Orah

2016-04-10 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 13:22:05 +0100, Dave Hunt wrote : > Compare Orah with Jaunt. > > https://www.jauntvr.com/technology/ > > Large price difference. Jaunt has many more cameras. For more horizontal resolution. > No microphone built in. Have seen it used with what looked like one > of Len's

Re: [Sursound] Are mems a good choice for ambisonic microphones?

2016-04-14 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:02:55 +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 04/14/2016 01:09 PM, Chris wrote: > > And there's quite a lot more useful and well described material here > > too. http://www.edn.com/Pdf/ViewPdf?contentItemId=4429422 > > > > While it talks about MEMs mics, much of that applies t

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-08 Thread Marc Lavallée
> Aaron Heller wrote: > > https://youtu.be/eY9DMn8pgGA On Mon, 09 May 2016 00:02:49 +0100, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Well done. > > Just one suggestion: As VR is a lot about 3D, you could think about > to extend the "8 positions" demo to some equivalent 3D demo. Which > probably would be "26 po

Re: [Sursound] ambix and its UUID

2016-05-10 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Tue, 10 May 2016 12:03:46 +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > hi, > > [i just (re)subscribed to this list after i unsubscribed about 15 > years years ago... Welcome back! > surely i missed something (it's a pity that the list archives aren't > searchable, btw)] Here's an archive with search:

Re: [Sursound] Two Big Ears is now Facebook360 Spatial Workstation

2016-05-23 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Mon, 23 May 2016 13:42:48 +, Daniel Courville wrote: > https://facebook360.fb.com/spatial-workstation/ > > Their workflow allows B-Format in/B-Format out, ambiX or FuMa. > > With all the new tools, software and hardware, Ambisonics has never > been so alive! > > - Daniel Daniel, I wanted

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics in Ogg Opus

2016-05-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
Thanks Martin! I tried Opus a while ago for ambisonics, and it works well. But I had to hack the encoder so it would not combine channels together, because the default behavior is to consider multichannel streams as quadraphonic, 5.1 or 7.1 streams, with optimization for those formats, that could

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the web pt.1: Web Audio FOA/HOA ambisonic objects

2016-06-19 Thread Marc Lavallée
Excellent work! :-) The examples are working. The ones for HOA are impressive. I may "steal" some of your code for ambisonic.xyz ; I was unable to use Firefox a year ago. -- Marc On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:08:20 +, Politis Archontis wrote : > Hi Daniel, > > On 19 Jun 2016, at 19:21, Courville

Re: [Sursound] Proms 2016 in Surround

2016-07-15 Thread Marc Lavallée
In the FAQ: http://www.bbc.co.uk/taster/projects/proms-surround-sound/inside-story There's a link to a test player: http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/proms/surroundtest.html On Linux, Chrome works as expected (with 4 distinct channels), but Firefox still mixes the 4 channels in stereo. So I would suggest t

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics and IMAX 12.0

2016-09-04 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Sun, 04 Sep 2016 09:27:54 -0700 T Archer wrote: > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > ... > I'm recording location for an upcoming IMAX film recording with a > Tetramic and spot mics at va

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics and IMAX 12.0

2016-09-05 Thread Marc Lavallée
Hi Tim. I'm not an expert, and others on the list could much better answer your question. But as far as I know, irregular arrays like the new IMAX 12.0 are not well suited for ambisonics reproduction. There's at least one tool to create decoders for irregular arrays, depending on the exact positi

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics and IMAX 12.0

2016-09-05 Thread Marc Lavallée
On Mon, 5 Sep 2016 15:18:38 -0700 "T Archer" wrote: > Hi Marc, > > I haven't played with SurroundZone 2... be it configured to output > 12.0? No, but you could try 12 instances of SurroundZone2 (running in parallel), or process each channel separately and combine them in a 12.0 stream. There's

Re: [Sursound] Muti-channel ambisonic audio in sync with video

2016-09-08 Thread Marc Lavallée
You can try: http://xjadeo.sourceforge.net/ On Thu, 8 Sep 2016 15:52:01 +0900 ByungJun Kwon wrote: > Hello list, > I have an exhibition of playing heavy duty video file together with > 16ch interleaved ambisonic wave file. Audio is rendered through > reaper using ambisonic decoder so each chann

Re: [Sursound] Muti-channel ambisonic audio in sync with video

2016-09-08 Thread Marc Lavallée
It's already possible to play a multichannel audio/video file using VLC (or other players) while decoding to ambisonic; it's a matter of configuring the system to redirect the multichannel audio of the video player to an ambisonic decoder, using a sound server like Jack. -- Marc On Fri, 9 Sep 2016

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonics on the web pt.1: JSAmbisonics library update

2016-10-07 Thread Marc Lavallée
Great! About support for iOS, I would suggest to use Cordova with the Crosswalk “webview”; it is a simple method to create cross-platform applications based on the Chromium engine, that would be fully compatible with JSAmbisonics. — Marc > On Oct 7, 2016, at 10:27 AM, Politis Archontis > w

Re: [Sursound] Oculus Ambisonics Starter Pack

2016-10-21 Thread Marc Lavallée
Thanks for the compression fo flac (4.9G -> 3.0G), and the conversion to Fuma (for compatibility with existing applications). — Marc > On Oct 21, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Courville, Daniel > wrote: > > The pack is ambiX/wave. I made a FuMa/flac version: > http://www.radio.uqam.ca/ambisonic/audio/ocul

Re: [Sursound] Bizarre

2016-10-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
Here’s the link to the first “article": https://www.arkamys.com/ambisonic-microphone-ep01/ > On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:33 AM, Steven Boardman > wrote: > > They have an article (a first installment that doesn't say much) on their > site too. Its

Re: [Sursound] Bizarre

2016-10-29 Thread Marc Lavallée
are not small... -- Marc > > Steve > > On 29 Oct 2016 20:04, "Stefan Schreiber" > wrote: > > Marc Lavallée wrote: > > Here’s the link to the first “article": > > https://www.arkamys.com/ambisonic-microphone-ep01/ < > > https://www.arkamys.c

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