RE: [SAtalk] Heh, interesting spam

2004-01-28 Thread SpamTalk
Jonathan Nichols wrote: > A friend of mine got this spam and wanted to share: > > http://www.spiffariffic.com/homelandsec.txt > I got this from my brother in the FDIC yesterday: -Original Message- From: Chairman Powell's Office Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 3:06 PM To: FDIC EMPLOYEES

RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil Archive

2004-01-19 Thread SpamTalk
> -Original Message- > From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:12 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil Archive > > Huh? That was posted 2 days ago! And I had tested it longer > then that! IF there was an

RE: [SAtalk] Improvement: Image Recognition as spam criteria

2004-01-15 Thread SpamTalk
> -Original Message- > From: Manuel Schmitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Improvement: Image Recognition as spam criteria > > Dear readers, > > while using Spamassassin for about one month and having a

RE: [SAtalk] Habeas mark and auto-learning as ham

2004-01-12 Thread SpamTalk
-Original Message- From: David A. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:10 PM To: Robert Strickler Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Habeas mark and auto-learning as ham Robert: Just in case you didn't realize, you sent this only to me and not to the entire list. In re

RE: [SAtalk] MX Logic article

2004-01-12 Thread SpamTalk
Of course the phone number makes perfect fodder for a 10.0 rule. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 10:11 AM To: SA Subject: [SAtalk] MX Logic article Well, *DUH*... First these guys applaud the CAN-SPAM act, now they say "

[SAtalk] [RD] disable autolearn for any negative score

2004-01-12 Thread SpamTalk
Given the discussion of the recent problem with the Habeas mark being autolearned as ham, I think it would be a good rule of thumb to skip the bayes autolearning when a message has ANY negative score. This will prevent future abuses of these types of scores from polluting the database. The merits

[SAtalk] Is anyone scanning for the chemical name for the Vee drug?

2004-01-12 Thread SpamTalk
One dufus spammer, beside spelling the drug correctly, also mentions the generic name "Sildenafil Citrate". If not already in BigEvil, perhaps Chris could add it. Best Regards, Bob --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perforce Software. Perfo

[SAtalk] Anyone working on an eval to count unique words?

2004-01-07 Thread SpamTalk
Looking at some of the samples of "hash buster" and "bayes poisoning" spam that have been posted, it would seem to me the they go out of their way to create a large number of unique words, either gobbledygook or random word lists. SA should be able count the number of unique "words" and repeated w

[SAtalk] RE: We have big evil now we need big good...

2003-12-20 Thread SpamTalk
These companies need to get a Habeas mark. Minimally, they should prescreen their formats through SA. Any database created as suggested should include contact information that could be used to provide those suggestions. If/when such companies get whitelisted they should get a temporary reject wit

[SAtalk] RE: Mailing lists and compliance verbage

2003-12-19 Thread SpamTalk
If they are legit and value reaching their recipients, they should get a Habeas mark. At the very least pre-scan their spew through an SA test box. I have absolutely zero sympathy for such an organization that is so bereft of email clues. Best Regards, Bob ---

RE: [SAtalk] Re: [RD] raw/rare/folded/plain/alphed body/subject r endering streams

2003-12-15 Thread SpamTalk
> It would seem to me that, for purposes of rule simplification, that the subject and body of messages to be scanned should be available in pre-processed flavors, some of which is currently available. Assume the spam key is some thing like that Vuhee drug, V=P i=o e=a n=g s=r u=a (i.e. Poensu) > >

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] raw/rare/folded/plain/alphed body/subject rende ring streams

2003-12-10 Thread SpamTalk
>This paragraph suggests that the spelling transformation would >proceed the ALPHED transformation. Probably would have to be a fork rather than pipe, once it was phonemed, I would think it would be hard to get back into recognizable English. Then again that's what IBM ViaVoice and Dragon Dictate

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] raw/rare/folded/plain/alphed body/subject rende ring streams

2003-12-10 Thread SpamTalk
>It might be convenient to view each these transformations as operating on the output of the previous. Indeed, I was. Elegance + Efficiency + Functionality = GoodCode(TM) >Note that numbers are sometimes substituted for letters. >[SNIP] This argues for phoneming and/or spell-checking before ALP

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] raw/rare/folded/plain/alphed body/subject rende ring streams

2003-12-10 Thread SpamTalk
>>FOLDED set all lowercase >> Remove HTML >> punctuation to be underscore, >Why on earth do you want to "set all lowercase"? I guess folding the case might be overkill in the "simplification" process. As a matter of curiosity, does the objection extend to doing

[SAtalk] [RD] raw/rare/folded/plain/alphed body/subject rendering streams

2003-12-10 Thread SpamTalk
It would seem to me that, for purposes of rule simplification, that the subject and body of messages to be scanned should be available in pre-processed flavors, some of which is currently available. Assume the spam key is some thing like that Vuhee drug, V=P i=o e=a n=g s=r u=a (i.e. Poensu) RAW

RE: [SAtalk] Another dufus who cant configure their spam software

2003-11-24 Thread SpamTalk
ler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:46 PM To: SpamTalk Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Another dufus who cant configure their spam software At 11:57 AM 11/24/2003, SpamTalk wrote: >X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=TO_MALFORMED version=

[SAtalk] Another dufus who cant configure their spam software

2003-11-24 Thread SpamTalk
Some content was [SNIP]ped to a) hide our interior routing & b) to remove references to what they were touting. Note the "Sender: ydcC:"\messages\names_a.txt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" where a random sender names would have been inserted. ===headers== Received: from [SNIP] by [SNIP] with S

[SAtalk] [RD] name to reply name ratio

2003-11-18 Thread SpamTalk
I have been noticing that the eye-readable text for most spam bears no resemblance to the Reply-To where they are normally random characters, the length of the Reply-To my be a combination factor to help differentiate it. I wonder how good a spam sign it might be to calculate the correlation betwe

RE: [SAtalk] Spam: The Screwfly Solution

2003-10-07 Thread SpamTalk
-Original Message- From: Fred I-IS.COM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >What we need is a Distributed fake replier Actually you just need to have the program spoof the origination address and craft the IP packets/timing so that it does not need the response that do not show up. But again, we

[SAtalk] Free ISP access to Cloudmark rating program

2003-09-19 Thread SpamTalk
quoting from //www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20030918S0012 "The Rating program is available for free to major Internet service providers and web-based email providers, but, no deals have been reached" I am not sure if Net56 qualifies as "major", but it seems to be something that might be added to

RE: [SAtalk] OT-spam virus? anyone heard of this?

2003-06-27 Thread SpamTalk
-Original Message- From: Chris Santerre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 2:23 PM To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) Subject: [SAtalk] OT-spam virus? anyone heard of this? I checked sarc.com but nothing on it. I heard this on a car board I am on. Any truth? "Just a no

RE: [SAtalk] Spammers sneaking lower Bayes scores

2003-06-27 Thread SpamTalk
From: John Wilcock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >On 26 Jun 2003 12:17:23 -0700, Daniel Quinlan wrote: >> > B) run the rendered text through a grammar check, I assume that >> > there is an open source analyzer available. >> >> Not really. >And even if there were, what about the impact this might h

RE: [SAtalk] Spammers sneaking lower Bayes scores

2003-06-26 Thread SpamTalk
Somewhere in the not very distant future SA is going to have to: A) render HTML to text ala LYNX B) run the rendered text through a grammar check, I assume that there is an open source analyzer available. C) have the GA establish a Bayesian baseline of grammar scores indicative of SPAM/HAM. Buy

RE: [SAtalk] Removing SpamAssassin

2003-02-18 Thread SpamTalk
Why is this not in the FAQ with a big bold hyperlink on the home page? Someone else moaned about how the wanted SpamAssassin off their computer not too long ago and an excellent reply was posted. I intended use it to add a FAQ entry. However the archive search appears to be totally broken or I am s

RE: [SAtalk] new faq entry

2003-02-17 Thread SpamTalk
Maybe Mail Corral on a gateway server would be a viable solution. Has anyone used this product? -Original Message- From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:11 AM To: 'Clayton, Nik [IT]'; Justin Mason Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] new faq

[SAtalk] SA gatewaying with LDAP user verification?

2003-01-15 Thread SpamTalk
Discussion of gateways in the "success stories" thread got me thinking. We are very much in the pilot stage with SA. We forward through a RH7.3 hardened with Bastille from an external Imail 7.1 server and a fire walled Exchange 5.5 server. Both Imail and Exchange have LDAP capabilities and Sendmail

[SAtalk] interesting "From" mail pattern

2003-01-09 Thread SpamTalk
We are getting flooded with emails that have a From address consisting of a single word name all in caps, e.g.: From: "ARLINDA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They are already way over the limit and are flagged. Anyone know what spamware generates this kind of signature? Received: from ilpalxr-dnsmx

RE: [SAtalk] New type of SPAM identification?

2002-12-10 Thread SpamTalk
>Some new malware? Sure looks like a "unquestionably SPAM" header flag. Refuse it in the milter, heh heh. -Original Message- From: Rich Puhek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 3:43 PM To: Dennis Boylan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] New type of SPAM

RE: [SAtalk] Distribute the load

2002-11-22 Thread SpamTalk
The software is a lot more work to set up and maintain, the hardware costs more but should install far more simply and you can get support and hardware maintenance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:50 AM To: SpamTalk

RE: [SAtalk] Distribute the load

2002-11-21 Thread SpamTalk
If the load is that large it would probably justify a hardware or dedicated software load-balancing solution. Doesn't Red hat appears to have an "active" load balancing solution: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/advserver/RHLAS-2.1-Manual/install-guide/ s1-lvs-scheduling.html http://makeashorterl

[SAtalk] Primary MX ping

2002-10-30 Thread SpamTalk
In the "bayes, spamd, and future of per-user/per-system bayes" thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] remarked >not so good when your primary MX *is* actually unreachable ;). Couldn't we integrate an optional capability that would periodically make a port 25 connection to a specified and QUIT saving the unava

RE: [SAtalk] Perspectives on (not) using SA

2002-10-29 Thread SpamTalk
Might worthwhile to peruse his regex and see if there is anything there to incorporate in SA rules. -Original Message- From: Smart, Dan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Perspectives on (not) u

[SAtalk] TOD score for SPAM

2002-10-24 Thread SpamTalk
Would the delivery time of day be a useful value for nudging the score for spam. Is there an easy way to test this in the GA? --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Influence the future of Java(TM) technology. Join the Java Community Process(S

RE: [SAtalk] TOD score for SPAM

2002-10-24 Thread SpamTalk
2002 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] TOD score for SPAM At Thu Oct 24 19:44:37 2002, SpamTalk wrote: > > Would the delivery time of day be a useful value for nudging the score > for spam. Is there an easy way to test this in the GA? It would be

[SAtalk] RE: URL blacklist

2002-10-17 Thread SpamTalk
Aint technology great? ;) So we now know it is technically feasible, we just need some poor glutton for punishment to step up and begin implementation. -Original Message- From: Scott A Crosby [mailto:scrosby@;cs.rice.edu] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:52 PM To: Robert Strickler Cc:

RE: [SAtalk] netscape and spamassassin

2002-10-15 Thread SpamTalk
I believe you will want to configure fetchmail to do the retrieval from your provider and configure Netscape to read IMAP or POP3 from you localhost. -Original Message- From: lambert Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:38 PM To: mail spamassassin Subject:

RE: [SAtalk] SA feature/idea? (teergrubing/ stalling SMTP session s )

2002-10-14 Thread SpamTalk
>connection handed off to a small process independent of the MTA No argument, certainly the way I would design it. Admittedly my serious programming skills are over 5 years rusty and I have never tried to pass an open handle across processes. >ties up plenty of resources on my machine as well (2

RE: [SAtalk] "offers" in header a good rule for trapping spam

2002-10-10 Thread SpamTalk
YAY, I have actually made a useful contribution, well, a suggestion at least. Now to get that perl author to fix the .msg to mbox script. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:58 PM To: Robert Strickler Cc: [EMAIL PROTEC

RE: [SAtalk] "offers" in header a good rule for trapping spam

2002-10-09 Thread SpamTalk
AIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:59 PM To: SpamTalk Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] "offers" in header a good rule for trapping spam I would, but they're binary (Outlook?) files... | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[E

RE: [SAtalk] "offers" in header a good rule for trapping spam

2002-10-09 Thread SpamTalk
Attached are low-scoring (1.5, 3.5) emails, could someone push 'em through 2.42 and see if they get tagged? -Original Message- From: Malte S. Stretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] "offers" in header a good

RE: [SAtalk] New spammer trick (aka: stupid browser trick)

2002-10-09 Thread SpamTalk
The other cool palm app is the one that cracks the "encrypted" Cisco passwords. You feed the garbled version and it spits the plaintext of the password. As often as not someone has an old printout of the config laying around and it's a bunch easier than the password recovery rigmarole. Although fr

[SAtalk] "offers" in header a good rule for trapping spam

2002-10-09 Thread SpamTalk
Currently running 2.21, hopefully moving to 2.42 (3?) waiting to see how the current spamd failing issue works out. I have been trapping a number of low scoring spam using the rules wizard in outlook dump any message with the word "offers" in the headers (normally seen as "offers@" or offers.domai

RE: [SAtalk] New breed of SPAM?

2002-10-03 Thread SpamTalk
Are there any open source OCR programs? Or possibly Xerox could be coaxed to release a "lite" version of its Textbridge recognition engine under GPL, they certainly could use some positive PR nowadays. Combined with a GA we should be able to target the most suspicious images for recognition and co

RE: [SAtalk] URL blacklist

2002-10-01 Thread SpamTalk
I don't have time to point you to the url, I searched metacrawler for mySQL replication and in one of the references it stated that you could not cross platform replicate as the *.myd and *.myi files were not binary compatible and that you had to use an sqldump command scenario to transport the d

RE: [SAtalk] URL blacklist

2002-09-30 Thread SpamTalk
om: Daniel Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] URL blacklist On Mon, Sep 30, 2002 at 04:09:48PM -0500, SpamTalk wrote: > Shouldn't a list such as this this be a part of the next release in > the same ma

RE: [SAtalk] URL blacklist

2002-09-30 Thread SpamTalk
Shouldn't a list such as this this be a part of the next release in the same manner as frequent spam phases? -Original Message- From: Andrew Burgess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 12:45 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] URL blacklist Daniel Rog

RE: [SAtalk] Osirusoft - trustworthy?

2002-09-26 Thread SpamTalk
I'd vote for separation. Having a choice is a good thing. Even if they are non-co-operative Matt Kettler [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] mentioned >If you're not listed as a 127.0.0.2 or 127.0.0.3 please don't bother the administrator of relays.osirusoft.com >You're listed 127.0.0.4 Maybe SA c

[SAtalk] RE: postfix issues (was: No Subject)

2002-09-17 Thread SpamTalk
I would sack postfix before SA. Was any attempt made to query a postfix mailing list? Since postfix is installed, I assume that sendmail is not a viable alternative (to be honest I am waiting for the next release of amvis or spamass-milter. Someone mention mime-defang milter also supports SA but I

RE: [SAtalk] Microsoft developer newsletter tagged as spam

2002-07-23 Thread SpamTalk
ed as spam On Tue, 23 Jul 2002, SpamTalk wrote: > It _IS_ spam. The fact it is from M$DN does not mitigate the fact that > they take advantage of having your email address to load all that crap > in the same boat. It's not spam unless they send it unsolicited. The point is mer

RE: [SAtalk] Microsoft developer newsletter tagged as spam

2002-07-23 Thread SpamTalk
It _IS_ spam. The fact it is from M$DN does not mitigate the fact that they take advantage of having your email address to load all that crap in the same boat. If you want it, whitelist it. All M$ would have to do is have their marketing cretins run their proposed email thru an internal SA set up

RE: [SAtalk] Spam got through: refinance and save $$$

2002-07-22 Thread SpamTalk
We are still at v2.20, I am surprised that none of the "market-speak" phrases triggered. There are several that should be in the 2.31 spam phrases, maybe they are in the CVS? Only takes [1-9] minutes fill out our form new home loan Mortgage rates take action now Refinance your home extra cash you

[SAtalk] RH 7.3 spamass-milter hangs

2002-07-16 Thread SpamTalk
spamass-milter appears to return from its call to "smfi_register(smfilter)" but does not seem to exit and hangs the boot sequence. The "/etc/init.d/sa-milter start" script has: daemon spamass-milter /var/run/sendmail/spamass.sock "/etc/init.d/sa-milter start &" leaves the following proce

[SAtalk] RH 7.3 sa-milter install problems

2002-07-15 Thread SpamTalk
1) the /etc/init.d/spamassassin script never seems to get launched on startup is there something else needed? 2) We originally installed/used SA with mailscanner. I tried to convert to SA-exim but could not get it to start and none of the docs have been updated to 4.05 the news groups wer

[SAtalk] more rules for uncaught spam

2002-06-27 Thread SpamTalk
I created 7 new local.cf rules from just ONE spam that scored only 3.0 on v2.20: body BADCREDIT1 /bad credit/i describe BADCREDIT1 talks about bad credit body BETTERCREDIT1 /better credit/i describe BETTERCREDIT1 talks about better credit body CANHELPYOU1/can help you/i

[SAtalk] More Spam phrases that from a porn that slipped through the current rules

2002-06-12 Thread SpamTalk
I am not exactly certain on the YNIWHI regular expression syntax, the grammatically correct comma/period/ellipsis should be optional. It should match any of these: you name it we have it you name it, we have it you name it. we have it you name it... we have it body LIVECHAT /LIVE CHAT/

[SAtalk] additional rules

2002-06-11 Thread SpamTalk
We have added the following local.cf rules to cover spam that has slipped through the v2.20 ruleset body SPONSORED1 /brought to you by/i describe SPONSORED1 spam with embedded commercials, SHEESH body REMOVE1/REMOVE/ describe SPECIAL1 REMOVE in caps body SPECIAL1