Re: [SAtalk] [RD] spammer reactions to antidrug (humorous)

2004-01-30 Thread Kelson Vibber
r Druggers And trewely shalt thy mayde receive thy..." *ahem* Kelson Vibber --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5

Re: [SAtalk] bigevil_54 smonitor

2004-01-26 Thread Kelson Vibber
'c' Collapse all the alternatives out and you get /\bc(smonitor)\.(com)\b/ which would indeed match csmonitor.com -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications, --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Confere

RE: [SAtalk] BigEvil PF

2004-01-26 Thread Kelson Vibber
to wait for Chris Santerre to answer this thread. The evil rules are mainly built up from his own spam corpus. (Of course, given the way the list has been acting this weekend, I wouldn't be surprised if he's already replied and

Re: [SAtalk] Surprise mail from myself

2004-01-21 Thread Kelson Vibber
At 04:27 PM 1/21/2004, Matt Kettler wrote: If you bring in more context, rather than use whitelist_from_rcvd, he wrote his own rule. Sorry, not reading carefully enough. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- The SF.Net email is

Re: [SAtalk] Surprise mail from myself

2004-01-21 Thread Kelson Vibber
and thinks that all is well. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim

Re: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Kelson Vibber
le of MIME digests to Habeas. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anahei

Re: [SAtalk] URI Rules

2004-01-20 Thread Kelson Vibber
At 09:31 AM 1/20/2004, Dan Kennedy wrote: The rules won't have any wildcards, just basically a big blacklist of URLs found in SPAM. You might want to look into Chris Santerre's "BigEvil" ruleset before you reinvent the wheel: http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] New Virus psychology?

2004-01-16 Thread Kelson Vibber
ot; it (in this case, change the filename and MIME type to prevent anything from auto-executing). The problem, of course, comes when send files like "www.whatever.com Home Page.doc" or "cnn.com article.htm" and so on. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications ---

Re: [SAtalk] [RD] Anti-drug.cf now available

2004-01-16 Thread Kelson Vibber
uot; as the separator, so that it will match all spaced-out variations instead of just underscores. I set up a rule looking for that pattern a few days ago, and it's been working well enough that I plan to increase the score. Kelson V

Re: [SAtalk] Re: New Habeas rules

2004-01-15 Thread Kelson Vibber
even checks the HIL. The reason you're seeing messages that triggered HABEAS_VIOLATOR but not HABEAS_SWE is that you've redefined HABEAS_SWE to only hit if HABEAS_FORGERY is not present. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- T

RE: [SAtalk] Delete vs tagging spam

2004-01-15 Thread Kelson Vibber
At 02:44 PM 1/15/2004, Kang , Joseph S. wrote: Semantics? Maybe, but if the word "filter" causes this kind of confusion, maybe it shouldn't be used to describe SA. Mail... Analyzer? Reviewer? Labeler? Scanner? Spam... Detector? Seeker? Finder? Explorer? Konqueror? ;-

Re: [SAtalk] Delete vs tagging spam

2004-01-15 Thread Kelson Vibber
neither SA nor the critic is in a position to lower the curtain alone. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth o

Re: [SAtalk] Should I just outright block *.biz domains?

2004-01-14 Thread Kelson Vibber
l, we host a legit .biz domain (a real estate agency who couldn't get the .com they wanted, and figured .biz was more appropriate than .org), and while I don't know how likely you are to correspond with them, I'm sure they'd be unhappy if you blocked them based on their TLD.

Re: [SAtalk] New Habeas rules

2004-01-14 Thread Kelson Vibber
contain the Habeas mark, unless they show up on the violator list, in which case I quarantine them for later reporting.) I've since noticed that these also trigger the bigevil list, so I'll probably remove the score for PHARMACOURT_BIZ. Kelson Vibber SpeedG

Re: [SAtalk] Scoring the Habeas header ...

2004-01-13 Thread Kelson Vibber
s successfully sued spammers who were forging their headers. That means they've not only shown they mean business, but they've got case precedent on their side for the next suit. The question right now is how long it'll take to find the offenders and get a court to i

[SAtalk] Re: Bonded Sender Program

2004-01-08 Thread Kelson Vibber
"John Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The whole point is that a sender posts a bond, which presumably is forfeited if they send spam. How do I go about reporting it? http://www.bondedsender.org/complaint/ Or send it to the bondedsender.org abuse email address. Kelson

[SAtalk] Re: CAN-SPAM and SpamAssassin

2004-01-06 Thread Kelson Vibber
e a rule for tracking and see what the GA comes up with once the disclaimers are common. If it turns out to be worth only 0.2 points, we're still ahead of where we were. But we shouldn't assume that anything with this verbiage has to be spam, and both scoring and d

[SAtalk] Re: eBay Spoof

2003-12-26 Thread Kelson Vibber
ress for reporting spoofs. They ask that you forward them (inline) to [EMAIL PROTECTED], at least in theory so that they can investigate the spoofers. http://www.ebay.com/securitycenter/ http://pages.ebay.com/education/spooftutorial/ -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Comm

[SAtalk] A couple more BigEvil false positives

2003-12-15 Thread Kelson Vibber
An urban legends site I've been visiting for years -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications, www.speed.net --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for

[SAtalk] Re: Habeas test

2003-12-09 Thread Kelson Vibber
llow your email through a spam filter. If you use one of these badges without passing the criteria, you're misrepresenting yourself, probably committing fraud, and certainly reducing the value of the mark itself, and that seems like it would be legally actionable. Kel

Re: [SAtalk] Habeas test

2003-12-09 Thread Kelson Vibber
, it does contain 33% of that art... I agree, though: it makes more sense to test for at least the entire haiku, if not the full nine lines with attribution. It may not be what they meant, but I'd interpret this as saying you should only

RE: [SAtalk] bigevil.cf + rsync?

2003-12-06 Thread Kelson Vibber
in-text to MIME - I'll see if that improves matters. Kelson Vibber www.hyperborea.org --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tu

RE: [SAtalk] bigevil.cf + rsync?

2003-12-05 Thread Kelson Vibber
OK, I can confirm that switching from the plain-text digest to the MIME digest appears to have solved the problem. Gary, your last post was legible in the latest digest. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email is

RE: [SAtalk] bigevil.cf + rsync?

2003-12-05 Thread Kelson Vibber
IIRC UTF-8 characters below 128 should be indistinguishable from ASCII or ISO-8859-1, I now suspect mailman is doing something to mangle the post when building the plain-text digest. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.ne

RE: [SAtalk] bigevil.cf + rsync?

2003-12-05 Thread Kelson Vibber
e list archives raw - and unreadable. Please, stick to plain text for the mailing list! Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Si

[SAtalk] Re: BIG HUGE EVIL RULE NEWS!!!!

2003-12-03 Thread Kelson Vibber
Yahoo Groups postings a base score of 3 doesn't strike me as a good idea, so I've removed it from my copy of the file. One could argue that the ad being attached is spam, but the whole message generally is not. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Comm

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/SA integration

2003-11-10 Thread Kelson Vibber
s in their original state. (IIRC sa-learn expects to get the original messages, not the marked-up-and-put-in-an-attachment version.) If that's the case, then you can just pipe the mailbox to "razor-report --mbox". Kelson Vibber

[SAtalk] Evilrules false-positives

2003-10-24 Thread Kelson Vibber
n the case of some of the eBay mailings, Bonded Sender) before I noticed and disabled them (although I've left c1tracking at 0.1 for, well, tracking). Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The S

Re: [SAtalk] Scoring of 5.0 means spam. ist possible to drop mails with a scoring of i.e. 15?

2003-10-21 Thread Kelson Vibber
* ^X-Spam-Level: \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* In MIMEDefang, call action_discard or action_bounce based on the value of $hits when it calls SpamAssassin. And so on. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email is s

Re: [SAtalk] LOTS of mail being tagged wrong

2003-10-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
egardless of whether an item has actually been identified as spam. This is so you can see exactly what rules have been tripped, even for a non-spam message. FAQ entry: http://spamassassin.taint.org/faq/index.cgi?req=show&file=faq04.005.htp Kelson

Re: [SAtalk] evilrules.cf including in local.cf?

2003-10-15 Thread Kelson Vibber
Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There's no need to do an include. SA will parse _every_ file in /etc/mail/spamassassin, not just local.cf Wait, *every* file, or every file ending in .cf? If it's every single file, I'd better get rid of things like local.cf.bak. Ke

Re: [SAtalk] RCVD_IN_BSP_TRUSTED

2003-10-09 Thread Kelson Vibber
using it. And for future reference where can i find out about other test results? I checked on the default tests site but a search revealed nothing. Look at the files in /usr/share/spamassassin. Each rule has a one-line description. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications ---

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Pyzor in 2.60?

2003-10-03 Thread Kelson Vibber
t grok response "66.47.67.162:24441 TimeoutError: " Any idea what that is trying to tell me and how I can remedy it? Well, I have a different IP address in my Pyzor config. Try running "pyzor discover" and see what happens. (Be sure to run it as the same user that will be r

[SAtalk] note authored in Word, showed up as Spam

2003-10-02 Thread Kelson Vibber
address could end up on the wrong side of the AWL. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Sp

RE: [SAtalk] no spam today uses SA?

2003-09-15 Thread Kelson Vibber
Later, Network Associates bought Deersoft and hired them. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _

Re: [SAtalk] filter catching excel files

2003-08-14 Thread Kelson Vibber
the \b indicates a word boundary like a space or period. But I'd recommend against it. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals

Re: [SAtalk] dorkslayers offline again (was: Why are there 4 scores?)

2003-08-14 Thread Kelson Vibber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: It looks like orbs.dorkslayers.com is, sadly, offline once again. "Again?" When did they come back *on*line? Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free

Re: [SAtalk] Razor+Spamd problem

2003-08-14 Thread Kelson Vibber
zor. It may have to do with the user spamd runs under. When you tested it by running spamassassin directly, did you run it as the same user? If not, try that - you may need to have the spamd user run razor-admin --discover, or check file permissions on /path/to/spamd-home/.razor Kelson

RE: [SAtalk] DCC vs Razor2 vs Pyzor

2003-08-01 Thread Kelson Vibber
same, but the protocols, servers, and database are different. If you run both Razor and Pyzor on the same corpus, you'll see a significant number of messages hit by only one of the two services. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --

Re: [SAtalk] new DNS-based RBLs

2003-07-31 Thread Kelson Vibber
Motley Fool, Expedia, C-Net, and end-users at SBC, Earthlink and Compuserve. The real kicker was signing up for the new ClamAV announcement list at SourceForge and seeing ARIX_DF on the confirmation message. I may keep the lists on for a bit, but I'm not going to give either a score

Re: [SAtalk] spam flag NO despite high score

2003-07-31 Thread Kelson Vibber
ruct a Received header for your own server, so the SA tests will have the correct information. Be sure to search the ChangeLog for "INCOMPATIBILITY" - some functions and defaults have changed. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications -

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

2003-07-25 Thread Kelson Vibber
the point that no mail should be reported based on automatic filters. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now

Re: [SAtalk] which is 'better' for reporting/learning? sa-learn+razor vs. spamassassin -r

2003-07-16 Thread Kelson Vibber
out maildir), you save the overhead of connecting and logging into each one. AFAIK, you would have to run spamassassin -r for each message. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you

Re: [SAtalk] Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor ?

2003-07-14 Thread Kelson Vibber
CK describe MATCH_RAZOR_AND_DCCMessage matches both Razor and DCC score MATCH_RAZOR_AND_DCC 1 Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing & more. Do

Re: [SAtalk] Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor ?

2003-07-11 Thread Kelson Vibber
ot if *some* are). On the other hand, I vaguely remember something similar about stationery for Hotmail or Outlook Express, so this may not be relevant. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Erro

Re: [SAtalk] Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor ?

2003-07-11 Thread Kelson Vibber
e more false negatives than false positives. WHAT'S INTERESTING: * Fully 60% of mail that SpamAssassin identified as spam was found in at least one of Razor or Pyzor. * That's a 39% improvement over using Razor alone, or a 58% increase over using Pyzor alone. * Out of ~

Re: [SAtalk] Razor results

2003-07-09 Thread Kelson Vibber
A says Razor is available, and is using it; but still, it always returns "spam? 0". Anyone have any ideas? Well, there is a newer version of Razor (2.34). Aside from that, I'd suggest calling it directly with the debug option and seeing what it reports. Kelson Vibber Spe

Re: [SAtalk] Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor ?

2003-07-08 Thread Kelson Vibber
27;s much less likely that a false positive will show up in *both*. I've thought about trying out DCC with a really low score just to see the hit/FP rate, but I've never gotten around to it. Since it sounds like people are mainly using it for spam after all, I&#x

Re: [SAtalk] Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor ?

2003-07-08 Thread Kelson Vibber
s up, it doesn't delay the mail too much. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Parasoft Error proof Web apps, automate testing & more. Download & eval WebKing and

Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-07 Thread Kelson Vibber
e bleeding edge. "Upgrade early, upgrade often." And it helps to try multiple attacks, something for which SA, with its support for DNS blacklists, Bayesian classification, Razor, Pyzor, and DCC, is well-suited. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications -

Re: [SAtalk] Two new techniques or old hat?

2003-07-01 Thread Kelson Vibber
n spam (and only spam) messages delivered directly to my Exchange box; thereby avoiding SA totally. ... I also have a 2nd MX pointing directly at the Exchange box This one's old hat. A significant percentage of spammers will deliberately send to the secondary MX on the chance that it will be less

Re: [SAtalk] Ideas on dealing with Joe Job?

2003-06-27 Thread Kelson Vibber
"Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kelson Vibber wrote on Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:30:07 -0700: > If someone claims to be your own mail server - and isn't - it's a pretty > safe bet they're up to no good. That's a rule I use in SA, but unfortunately,

Re: [SAtalk] Ideas on dealing with Joe Job?

2003-06-26 Thread Kelson Vibber
they're up to no good. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10%

RE: [SAtalk] Spammers sneaking lower Bayes scores

2003-06-26 Thread Kelson Vibber
"Bingham, Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I can't believe we're even debating this! Me neither - I thought the joke was obvious. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INet

Re: [SAtalk] Everyone running PYZOR read

2003-06-18 Thread Kelson Vibber
very low traffic: only one person posts to it, and there have only been 9 posts since September. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An I

Re: [SAtalk] spammers aren't the only ones who can teach. (was We TEACH you how to ...)

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
27;t willing to learn. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10%

[SAtalk] Re: Spamd problem with razor2

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
er" as the user spamd runs under, and see if that takes care of it. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. Refer Dedi

Re: [SAtalk] We TEACH you how to SPAM and make a Fortune!!

2003-06-17 Thread Kelson Vibber
and I heard it from a friend who heard it from his third cousin twice removed who heard it from her hairdresser's roommate, so it MUST be true!) Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU Atte

[SAtalk] piping mail thru sa-learn

2003-06-12 Thread Kelson Vibber
lness of Bayes by reinforcing errors. Using auto-learn is a good compromise: you don't learn *everything* automatically, but most of it is automatic and you run much less risk of polluting the data. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes sometimes not mentioned in headers

2003-06-09 Thread Kelson Vibber
error. Chances are pretty good that you have non-spam hitting in that unscored 40-59% range. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the plane

Re: [SAtalk] Sugarplum spam poison?

2003-06-09 Thread Kelson Vibber
ructure is valid, and there's always a slight chance that someone really does have the address [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is also a mention of optionally mixing in your own tarpit domain(s). Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF

Re: [SAtalk] Cannot open bayes_path R/W: File exists

2003-05-30 Thread Kelson Vibber
s, but since the issue seems to have multiple causes - or at least multiple solutions - that seemed a bit much. SHEESH Agreed. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email

Re: [SAtalk] Cannot open bayes_path R/W: File exists

2003-05-27 Thread Kelson Vibber
ayes_path&q=b http://www.roaringpenguin.com/search/ Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ObjectStore. If flattening out C++ or Java code to make your application fit in a relational database is painfu

[SAtalk] Re: Ok, RBL/DCC problems part deux

2003-02-14 Thread Kelson Vibber
CC, RBLs, Razor, Pyzor, etc.) for faster performance. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: FREE SSL Guide from Thawte are you planning your Web Server Security? Click here to get a FREE Thawte SSL gu

Re: [SAtalk] Missing subject_tag on spam

2003-02-11 Thread Kelson Vibber
kind of markup you want, take different actions depending on which rules are tripped or how high the score is, etc. I found a MIMEDefang solution by Kelson Vibber in the message: http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2002-July/001650.html where one uses a function like in this

[SAtalk] Re: Rules How-to or Tutorial?

2003-01-23 Thread Kelson Vibber
me, but don't store the results (slightly more efficient if you don't need to save the info) For more info, you can run "perldoc perlre Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceFor

[SAtalk] Re: pyzor errors with spamassassin

2003-01-09 Thread Kelson Vibber
me of the messages), usually culminating in "sudden EOF in MultiFile.readline()" I haven't had the chance to try to identify what they have in common, although I suspect it has to do with MIME parts, or possibly invalid MIME. Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications, Technical St

[SAtalk] Re: Spamassassin,mimedefang,zombies, network tests

2002-10-10 Thread Kelson Vibber
anyone is >successfully using mimedefang and spamassassin with network >checking using more recent versions? Or does this still not >play nice together? Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications, Technical Staff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (949) 341-08