[SAtalk] Re: fully-public corpus of mail available

2002-10-09 Thread Craig Hughes
Justin wrote: > - All headers are reproduced in full. Some address obfuscation has > taken > place; hostnames in some cases have been replaced with > "example.com", > which should have a valid MX record (if I recall correctly). In > most > cases though, the headers appear as t

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin for Exchange Beta

2002-10-08 Thread Craig Hughes
Putting on my Commercial Software hat, Deersoft is entering final beta on our SpamAssassin for Exchange product. We're looking for beta testers. If anyone's interested, please contact me quickly to get in. Current version of the product is targeted at Exchange 2000; 5.5 is in the pipeline b

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin is not checking against razor

2002-07-09 Thread Craig Hughes
Is the concensus that Razor2 is stable enough for us to release it? I'm somewhat wary of releasing a SA version with Razor2 support and having to answer daily emails where the answer is "upgrade to version 2.x -- prior versions are buggy". In the 2 weeks I was gone, have things settled down

Re: [SAtalk] rule testing against corpus

2002-07-08 Thread Craig Hughes
On Monday, July 8, 2002, at 08:03 AM, Justin Mason wrote: > > Patrice Fournier said: > >> I was wondering if there was someplace where we could have a new rule >> tested automatically against both spam and non-spam corpus to see how >> effective it is. Is this something everyone must make on th

[SAtalk] I'm back

2002-07-07 Thread Craig Hughes
Hello folks, I'm back and well rested after 2 weeks on tropical islands. Highly recommend both Petit St Vincent (http://www.psvresort.com) and Martinique to anyone wanting to get away for a while. Turns out that about a day after I left, one of my colleagues broke my server, with the result

Re: [SAtalk] Grammar Issue?

2002-07-07 Thread Craig Hughes
So the origin of the problem here is that Justin is Irish, and I grew up in the UK so my s/z o/ou etc. spelling plus my grammar is some weird half-assed mishmash of brit and american. C On Saturday, June 22, 2002, at 08:57 PM, Danita Zanre wrote: > Only if you're an American - and by the sp

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Reporting in SA

2002-07-07 Thread Craig Hughes
I noticed this problem at the time, but ignored it, cos I figured anyone who actually bothered reading the changelog would likely know what the deal was. But that was probably a bad assumption since our userbase has started growing so huge now. We should probably file a bugzilla ticket again

Re: [SAtalk] Adding rules for other languages

2002-04-18 Thread Craig Hughes
Eduardo, It would be very helpful if you could translate as many rules as you want (and even create new portuguese ones where appropriate). The way to do this would be to follow the examples for the spanish/german/french/polish rules and descriptions we already have. See the files in rules/25*

Re: [SAtalk] Occassional From line error

2002-04-18 Thread Craig Hughes
Hmm, strange. Shouldn't be a locking issue if you're just forwarding the mail on... Have you tried -F1 instead of -F0? And if that doesn't fix it, try adding a : on the end of the second procmail recipe: :0:# All messages ! etcetcetc and see if that fixes it (though I doubt it). C On We

Re: [SAtalk] No suck thing

2002-04-09 Thread Craig Hughes
Fixed. C On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 20:12, Bart Schaefer wrote: > > In 20_body_tests.cf in the latest CVS: > > > describe NO_COSTNo suck thing as a free lunch (3) > > > ___ > Spamassassin-talk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://l

Re: [SAtalk] PostgreSQL

2002-04-09 Thread Craig Hughes
File a bugzilla ticket on it. If I'm bored one day, I'll do it just to get everyone to stop complaining about it :) C On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 21:13, Larry Rosenman wrote: > * Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020408 23:05]: > > > > > > I used postgresql, wasn't a problem, but you have to re-do the tab

Re: [SAtalk] Compilenow() directive

2002-04-08 Thread Craig Hughes
Not sure what the bug ever was. We do use compilenow in spamd. What compilenow does is allow you to precompile the regexs without passing an actual message through. It's intended to be called exactly once when you startup a long-lived scanner process which can then fork to process individual me

Re: [SAtalk] My problem with SA not seeing the whitelist

2002-04-07 Thread Craig Hughes
I don't remember if I replied or not -- I don't think I did though. This looks very odd to me. It seems like it should not be having any trouble reading the file. Try (temporarily) relaxing the ACL on the directory/file to allow r for all on files, and rx for all on directories (/etc, /etc/mail

[SAtalk] [Fwd: Re: Hi, I am the SpamAssassin maintainer]

2002-04-07 Thread Craig Hughes
--- Begin Message --- Mr Hughes, > Hi there Paul. I'm currently maintaining the SpamAssassin > project for Justin Mason while he's off on vacation. He's > the guy, by the way, who jokingly put the "profit is dirty" > message on his webpage. I will adjust the page to reflect that. I'll also

[SAtalk] Re: Hi, I am the SpamAssassin maintainer

2002-04-07 Thread Craig Hughes
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 20:55, Paul Myers wrote: > > 1. SpamAssassin does not block mail. There is no facility > > for blocking or bouncing mail in SpamAssassin, and blocking > > or bouncing is highly discouraged both in the documentation, > > and on the SpamAssassin mailing list. > > I'll adjust

Re: [SAtalk] Implementing Razor

2002-04-06 Thread Craig Hughes
Install SA, install Razor, then run spamd without the -L flag and it'll use Razor. Read the FAQ first though on the website. C On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 08:27, ed wrote: > I am curious about how others on the list have implemented Razor in their > email systems along with SA... > > I have a fairly

Re: [SAtalk] spam-assassin & procmail

2002-04-06 Thread Craig Hughes
Well, ETA for 2.2 is ASAP, so soon you won't have to know what CVS is to get this stuff. C On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 05:21, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > Easier... h... I dunno, I think most people would find any working non > CVS-solution easier than having to panic while trying to figure out wha

Re: [SAtalk] Spam Assassin

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
Well, I don't know about despicable, but certainly it would have been polite for him to contact me before publically badmouthing me and encouraging wide distribution of his misrepresentations about my character and my work. C On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 22:29, Duncan Findlay wrote: > Furthermore, his

Re: [SAtalk] Hi, I am the SpamAssassin maintainer

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
ssassin is a good product, not just claim "it's awesome" and then say that anyone who criticizes it is a lunatic. C On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 22:27, Rob McMillin wrote: > Craig R Hughes wrote: > > >Hi there Paul. > > > [...] > > > > > > >Yours,

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
ls -l /etc/mail/spamassassin ? C On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 01:56, Sean Rima wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes told this: > > > What does spamassassin -D say? > > > > > debug: using "/usr/share/sp

Re: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
Must be a holdover from some other regex system -- I think it means "beginning of word" in some regex syntax or other, like: \b(?=\w) in perl On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 00:45, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Craig Hughes wrote: > > I think the problem is you need to escape the <.

Re: [SAtalk] Help configuring SA for POP accounts only (notsitewide); no real user accounts

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 12:50, Ryan Hammond wrote: > Any suggestions out there? Am I barking up the completely incorrect tree? > Is there an easy way to verify that we are actually using procmail? etc. Your recipe looks plausible, spamassassin seems to be working. Have you thought of the "ask

Re: [SAtalk] SiteWide Config Questions

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 21:55, Justin Wilson wrote: > 4.Recommended procedure for taking the redhat-rc-script.sh and making it a > startup script? # mv redhat-rc-script.sh /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd # chkconfig --add spamd # service spamd start C ___ Spamas

Re: [SAtalk] Problems with SA and Vipul's Razor v 1.20

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
It's a known issue. In fact, it's in the FAQ at http://www.spamassassin.org/faq.html C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 20:29, Aly Dharshi wrote: > Hello Gurus, > > I hope that you are well, is there a known issue with Vipul's razor 1.20 and >spam assassin latest released version ? I installed vipul

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-05 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 19:46, Paul Rushing wrote: > This message pertains to using AWL and SQL options. > > if you will look at the spamd and Conf.pm code, you will see that > per-user AWL files are by default defined as ~/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist > > This depends on the setuid code in spamd

Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
What does spamassassin -D say? C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 15:44, Sean Rima wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am using the current CVS and have my local.cf with all my > whitelist_from lines in /etc/mail/spamassassin but this is not being > checked. Once I moved it to /

Re: [SAtalk] "Broken CGI script message" specifics?

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Well if it's your own formail.pl, then just change its signature line :) The GA *can* score things higher than 4 -- it's limited to the range of -4..4 +/- (gaussian noise of mean 0, sd=1) C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 07:20, Daniel Rogers wrote: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:33:58AM

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
it is mutually exclusive. If you use SQL, you can in no way shape or > form use AWL, it won't work. You can't use them both at the same time > with the current code, so thats mutually exclusive. > > Brian > > > On 4 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes wrote: > > >

Re: [SAtalk] unsubscribing from sa-talk seems to be broken

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Thanks for your contributions while you were with us Andrew. And feel free to come back any time! C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:27, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > > You're probably trying to unreg your real email address instead of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you're still having trouble, > > let me kno

Re: [SAtalk] Re: DCC

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Ok, sounds like it's worth taking a look at in 2.3 C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 04:54, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2002, Sean Rima wrote: > Implementing a DCC client system in Perl, grafting that into > SpamAssassin, then enabling it with a configuration parameter to the > SpamAssassin or

Re: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I think the problem is you need to escape the <. As far as a src=cid rule, I don't think we have one yet in CVS -- I think there was a bugzilla about this though, I haven't gone through in a while to flush patches into CVS -- I'll try and do that this week so everything in bugzilla works its way

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist problem

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
What are the permissions on /home/spamc itself? C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 10:29, Shane Hickey wrote: > Howdy all, I'm sure I'm doing something stupid, but I can't get spamd to > start when I specify -a. > > I start spamd like so "spamd -d -x -F1 -u spamc" > > I'm starting spamc out of procmail l

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
2-04-04 at 12:13, Craig Hughes wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 01:50, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > > > I've not played with this since a 2.0 linux kernel, however on that if > > > you have the transparent proxy code in place - which *terminates* the > > > conne

Re: [SAtalk] Are spammers helping pay for spamassassin?

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I imagine he probably saw some banner ad on Sourceforge or one of the mailing list archives, none of which have anything to do with SA, except that we're leaching their free services. C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 03:02, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Blars Blarson wrote: > > I've been testing spamassassin fo

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Top ten (message IDs changed to protect the spamtraps). Note these were when scanning with mass-check, so no network tests. [craig@belphegore masses]$ sort -rn +1 spam.log |head -10 Y 51 /home/craig/spams/spamtrap.mbox:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SUBJ_HAS_SPACES,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2,NO_REAL_NAME,EARN_

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 01:50, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > I've not played with this since a 2.0 linux kernel, however on that if > you have the transparent proxy code in place - which *terminates* the > connection (so X thinks its talking to Z but is actually talking to Y - > if you want Z involved

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 01:40, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > So X connects to what it thinks is Z, but is really Y. Now what I want > > to do is have Y open a connection on to Z, and transparently monitor the > > Y would not "monitor the traffic" but really act impersonnate Z when > it talks to X and

Re: [SAtalk] DCC

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Tony, I've been holding off on DCC until I thought it was a robust enough system to use. I'm still somewhat haunted by Razor's hiccuppiness in days gone by. In your experience is DCC nicely stable/functional now? I was very intrigued by the project when I first heard about it around 6 months or

Re: [SAtalk] Feds cracking down on scam spam

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
My impression? Not much. Most of what arrives at my mailbox is stuff that's semi-legitimate, like snail junk mail. It's just irritating to have to sift through it all. Only rarely do I get stuff that's a ponzi scheme, or a Nigerian who needs help with his millions of dollars, etc. C On Wed,

Re: [SAtalk] "Broken CGI script message" specifics?

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I'd say it's extremely unlikely to occur in anything other than a Formail-generated email, or any discussion of Formail-generated emails. In the corpus, it appears 6 times in nonspam, and 435 times in spam. All the nonspam instances are bugtraq postings, which might want to be removed from the c

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Not really mutually exclusive, just probably AWL won't behave the way you expect... It should be pretty easy to create a SQLBasedWhitelist.pm for people who want AWL to store stuff in the SQL db. I'm really pretty surprised noone's done it and contributed it back yet. C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 2

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I have a question; I've run into this particular one myself before in trying to do transparent proxying. Let's say you have client X trying to connect to server Z, and you want to transparently proxy the TCP connection through Y, which happens to know the protocol Z speaks. In this instance, we'

Re: [SAtalk] Current CVS spamd hangs

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
Well, there is a release number, when there's a release. Otherwise it's just a timestamp that identifies the whole contents of CVS; individual files have version numbers. File a bugzilla ticket on the version number in -h/-v thing and it'll probably get done pretty fast since it's so easy.

Re: [SAtalk] unsubscribing from sa-talk seems to be broken

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
You're probably trying to unreg your real email address instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you're still having trouble, let me know and I can remove you through the admin interface I think. C On Wednesday, April 3, 2002, at 06:20 PM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > I can't believe I'm writing a "un

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
Thailand and China ;) Sometimes Korea. C PS Just kidding Olivier On Wednesday, April 3, 2002, at 05:53 PM, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > On 3 Apr 2002 the voices made Craig Hughes write: > >> Besides, you might be a spammer in disguise, and giving you my address >> would lea

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 16:31, Sean Rima wrote: > On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Duncan Findlay yowled: > > > Are you using a Pentium 100 with 40 MB RAM? > > No a P90 with 32mb :) Would that be one-downsmanship? C ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
Wow, money and pizza! I've been offered beer before too :) Seriously though, we're happy you like using it. And we're in it for the love and satisfaction, not the pizza and money :) Besides, you might be a spammer in disguise, and giving you my address would lead to Guido and his boys showing

Re: [SAtalk] Startup-Script for SuSE >= 7.1

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
Thorsten, if you create a ticket on bugzilla.spamassassin.org and attach your script, then assign the ticket to me, I'll add it to the distribution. C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 10:41, Thorsten Edler wrote: > Hello, once again! > > I have a working startup-script for SuSE Linux 7.1 (and with that >

Re: [SAtalk] Current CVS spamd hangs

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
You've got a new rules file hanging around somewhere still. 2.11 didn't understand 'uri' rules that are in CVS, which were in a newly added file. So re-installing 2.11 replaced most of the *.cf files, but did not remove the files that 2.11 never knew about in the first place! Remove /usr/share/

Re: [SAtalk] Extracting flagged content

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
It's not impossible -- we could have a token like _MATCH_ which could be used in rule 'describe' sections which would be replaced by $&, and maybe _LINE_ which would be replaced by the whole line, if a rule matched, or something. File a bugzilla ticket on it and we'll see what can be done. Sound

Re: [SAtalk] Using SpamAssassin if you don't own the mail server ?

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
1) The fetchmail/procmail/spamc solution is probably the way to go -- install that on your high-speed-connected-not-yours machine, then connect to that machine with your POP clients over dialup. 2) I don't know of anything that currently automatedly does the compare-incoming-emails-for-similarity

Re: [SAtalk] Using SpamAssassin if you don't own the mail server ?

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
My contribution to this discussion is going to be this: Don't delete the mail. Keep it around somewhere, and browse it occasionally for false positives. C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 07:44, Sundial Services International, Inc. wrote: > Gentlebeings... you are all on high-speed links and you're think

Re: [SAtalk] Strangely bad call

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
Yes, please do. C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 06:37, Gregor Lawatscheck wrote: > At 06:49 03/04/2002, you wrote: > >Also, this is the second legitimate e-mail that came to me in the last > >couple of days through osirusoft and was rejected. > > This is because of the RBL checking mechanism. It check

Re: [SAtalk] spamd ran out of control

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
FYI, trying to get out 2.2 in the next week or so. I think we've got enough new stuff and bug fixes, performance enhancements, etc that it's time for a release soon. Just a little polishing, checking the docs are up to date, re-scoring and we'll be set. nonspam.log submitters -- get ready to ma

Re: [SAtalk] Strangely bad call

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 20:49, Marsha Hanchrow wrote: > I had sent a question form to a company that manufactures ventilating > equipment, and the reply was caught as spam. I've included only a small > portion of the pdf attachment that probably set the CASHCASHCASH, but I > noticed no consecuti

Re: [SAtalk] yelling detected where none exists?

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
Just F everyone's I, the problem was LINE_OF_YELLING through a line of .'s was yelling. Well, lines of lots of punctuations things, but in the case mentioned here, it was the line of .. C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 14:36, Matthew Cline wrote: > On Tuesday 02 April 2002 06:40 pm, Evan Martin

Re: [procmail] [SAtalk] spamc & procmail -- SOLUTION

2002-04-03 Thread Craig Hughes
Just to point out -- you can still call spamc from procmail as long as spamd is running *somewhere* -- you can point spamc to a spamd located on a remote machine if you want to. C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 09:53, Kevin Cosgrove wrote: > a non-privileged user. One complicating factor is that the > m

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
The trouble is though Chris that SA keeps trying to do things like open $HOME/.spamassassin (what's $HOME set to under cygwin?), or open a connection to syslog on localhost (does cygwin redirect syslog stuff to the Event log or something?). I think the problem is not so much that it won't run on

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 17:11, Duncan Findlay wrote: > The only problems come when you get "spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn- > spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn- > spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-spawn-crash-and-burn" as > soon as fetchmail k

Re: [SAtalk] What does spamassassin -r actually do?

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
Yes, I'd say relay reporting is outside the scope of SA. Even razor reporting is a little dodgy, given that Razor has its own program to do exactly that. But razor reporting is in there already, so I probably won't take it out. C On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 16:33, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Ap

Re: [SAtalk] spamc & procmail

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
Yeah, you're wrong. spamc will automagically pass the username it's executing as to spamd. So spamc -u $LOGNAME is identical to spamc. spamc -u somethingelse is however not the same as spamc by itself. So the distinction is based on what userID spamc is running as. I myself use spamc -u becau

Re: [SAtalk] spamproxyd issue with 'spamaddr@example.com' ...

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
File a bugzilla ticket on it, and attach the patch, then assign the ticket to me. C On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 10:12, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, Jim Holmes wrote: > > > --On Tuesday, April 02, 2002 9:21 AM -0400 "Marc G. Fournier" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jus

Re: [SAtalk] Razor::Client

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
Looks like the solution is right there to me. Is there some way I could make it more apparent? No point having the FAQ if people are seeing it, but not finding the answer! C FAQ I'm having trouble with Razor 1.20 and SpamAssassin. Help! SpamAssassin claims that Razor is not installed when it

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 04:27, Matt Sergeant wrote: > AHA Lists wrote: > > I am running spamd on my redhat 6 box and spamd is taking up 5.3% memory. > > IS this normal? > > > > root 3401 0.0 5.3 7848 6792 ?S08:44 0:00 perl > > /usr/bin/spamd -d -c -a > > > > This is Perl. It

Re: [SAtalk] src:cid (was Re: More thoughts)

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
No, it's not spam. It's stuff like views into SAP systems, supply chain exception notices, things like that. Definitely stuff you don't want to not get in your inbox immediately. C On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 04:13, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Craig Hughes wrote: > > Update f

Re: [SAtalk] Current CVS spamd hangs

2002-04-02 Thread Craig Hughes
It's almost certainly a rule with a "bad" regex -- could you send me an email with attached a sample of an email that causes the high cpu usage? Thanks, C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 17:33, Phydeaux wrote: > Hi, all! > > Today I found one of my systems almost hung because of spamd > processes that

Re: [SAtalk] Error shutting down spamd

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Try the following: # . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions # killproc spamd What does it say? C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:57, AHA Lists wrote: > I am running this as root. Any other ideas? > > > > on 4/1/02 11:43 AM, Craig Hughes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Only

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Ok, the web page is now updated. I also sent an email to Tiffany Shlain, GMA's "computer expert" to hopefully clarify things with her so she's ready next time :) C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:35, Sidney Markowitz wrote: > On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 08:41, Søren Boll Overgaard wrote: > > Simply use the

Re: [SAtalk] Error shutting down spamd

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Only thing I can think of is you're not root when trying to run the shutdown script, so you can't kill the process. Become root first, then run the script. C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 06:57, AHA Lists wrote: > When ever I try and stop spamd I get an error using the redhat init script. > > /etc/rc.

Re: [SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Oh my god. SpamAssassin on GMA. We're doomed. Cheryl, I didn't see the show, but I imagine that they probably failed to point out that SA doesn't currently run on Windows. I'll try calling the show and seeing what they actually said, and if they want some clarification of things... C On Mon,

RE: [SAtalk] Choosing a prefs file on the command line

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Sounds great Ed. Could you stick the patch in a bugzilla ticket so we can track it, then assign it to me once it's ready to roll into CVS? Thanks, C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 01:30, CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson wrote: > I am working on a vpopmail patch to SA. My first go at it on Friday looks > g

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd time zone

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
stop/start of both spamd and syslog, the restart didn't > seem to hack it.. > > Thanks for the reply, > > Matt > > > > On 31 Mar 2002, Craig Hughes wrote: > > > Restart it -- it needs to reopen its connection to syslog to get the new > > tim

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd time zone

2002-03-31 Thread Craig Hughes
Restart it -- it needs to reopen its connection to syslog to get the new time. C On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 19:56, Matt Dickinson wrote: > Hi, > > I'm in england, and following the recent time change from GMT to BST, > I've noticed that everything on the system seems ok, apart from spamd. > It still

Re: [SAtalk] wierd delivery problem

2002-03-31 Thread Craig Hughes
Could be a missing 'From ' line at the head of the email. When you say it shows up in the spool file, do you mean shows up when you cat/more the file, or shows up with 'mail' instead of Pine/IMAP? C On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 15:22, Jeff Bacon wrote: > Anyone else see this: spamd is running and it m

Re: [SAtalk] permissions on ~/.spamassassin

2002-03-31 Thread Craig Hughes
Well, you'll need mail to be able to create/read/write the contents of the directory, do I'd say try to make it drwxrwx--- 2 jjbacon mail4096 Mar 6 08:13 .spamassassin So that'd be $ chgrp -R mail .spamassassin $ chmod g+rwx .spamassassin C On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 15:18, Jeff Bacon wrot

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Let battle commence

2002-03-30 Thread Craig Hughes
On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 23:27, Duncan Findlay wrote: > is being destroyed by the U.S." debate here> Mmmm, Celine Dion... ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

Re: [SAtalk] When to send in mass-check results

2002-03-30 Thread Craig Hughes
I'll send out the word a day or two before release (when the rules are mostly in a state of frozen-ness) for submitters to CVS update and re-masscheck then submit. C On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 21:28, Matthew Cline wrote: > When should the mass-check results be sent in? Are they solicited before new

Re: [SAtalk] Let battle commence

2002-03-30 Thread Craig Hughes
On Sat, 2002-03-30 at 11:54, dman wrote: > where you simply pull a labled lever. I remember in 3rd when the > first Bush (Sr.) election was. The teachers took us all down and we > got to vote in the voting machine. The other problem with the Uh, New York lets 3rd graders vote? No wonder that

Re: [SAtalk] Negative scores for obvious spam attributes?

2002-03-30 Thread Craig Hughes
On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 17:10, Matthew Cline wrote: > On Friday 29 March 2002 04:40 pm, Marsha Hanchrow wrote: > > > Why in the world is "body Contains at least 3 dollar signs in a row > > CASHCASHCASH -0.839" now scored as a negative? > > Now SA uses a Genetic Algorithm (GA) to set the scores. I

Re: [SAtalk] Let battle commence

2002-03-30 Thread Craig Hughes
On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 22:29, Duncan Findlay wrote: > On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 01:38:24AM +0100, Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 the voices made Rick Macdougall write: > > > > > From: "Craig Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >

Re: [SAtalk] Base 64 encoded body.

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Yes, there are a number of multipart/mixed loopholes at the moment. Planning to use MIME::Tools to do some more serious deconstruction on the messages and their parts in future release. At the moment I'm actually thinking it'll be in 2.3 and I'll release 2.2 in the coming week, since the MIME::T

Re: [SAtalk] Let battle commence

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Ok, any socialist country will do. C On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 09:54, Duncan Findlay wrote: > On Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 01:10:08AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 07:27, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > > I'm *so* glad it's a 4 day weekend! > > > &g

Re: [SAtalk] help exploiting formmail to black list

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Something like: POST /path/to/script HTTP/1.1\r\n Host: foo.bar.com\r\n scriptvar=value\r\n scriptvar=value\r\n \r\n I think. You can run netcat in listen mode: nc -l -p 9876 Then from another terminal run wget/curl against it curl -d 'scriptvar=test' http://localhost:9876/fake/path/script.c

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd and memory

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
root 3002 0.0 0.5 10364 8924 ?SMar19 0:04 /usr/bin/perl -w /usr/bin/spamd -D -d -L -c -a -F0 It's allocated 10364k on my machine, of which after 10 days uptime 8924 is resident in core, being around 0.5% of my 1.5GB -- this seems to be about normal. What's taking up memory i

Re: [SAtalk] help exploiting formmail to black list

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Try "nc" instead of "netcat" -- the nice thing about netcat/nc is that you can pipe input to it and pipe output from it, which telnet can't. Also, it doesn't try to negotiate telnet options, which some telnets do sometimes. C On Fri, 2002-03-29 at 02:09, Olivier Nicole wrote: > mail60: netcat >

Re: [SAtalk] help exploiting formmail to black list

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
That's not HTTP. You meant: $ echo -e 'GET /path/to/script.cgi HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n' | netcat www.example.com 80 or $ echo -e 'GET /path/to/script.cgi HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: www.example.com\r\n\r\n' | netcat www.example.com 80 Of course wget or curl is a lot easier. For posting something, you can us

Re: [SAtalk] help exploiting formmail to black list

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Also, SA has absolutely nothing to do with this. It just happens to be some people who use SA discussing how to do it. It's not part of SA, and won't be. C On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 20:20, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 08:57:12PM -0700, Michael Moncur wrote: > > If anyone's worr

Re: [SAtalk] Upgrade to SpamAssassin 2.11 (spamd not working!)

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
I'm guessing you need to use some kind of deliver program to get the mail to the right place -- what IMAP server is that? It seems to not be expecting the user's mail spool to change without knowing about it, which seems like a weird thing to do in a mail server, but as I said, it probably wants

Re: *****SPAM***** [SAtalk] Describe in French

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Awesome, thanks Olivier. I'll add it to CVS. C ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

Re: [SAtalk] Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 08:08, Charlie Watts wrote: > I'm curious if most SA users are using Subject: rewriting or not. It's the default. People are lazy. I bet it's not just the majority, but the *vast* majority. C ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list

RE: [SAtalk] Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 14:35, Shayne Hardesty wrote: > this earlier this week.. As spamassassin evolves, rules will need to be > updated regularly (weekly?), but I think forcing a recompile and reinstall This shouldn't be the case, if the rules are thoughtfully produced to start with. I'm runnin

Re: [SAtalk] Let battle commence

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 07:27, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I'm *so* glad it's a 4 day weekend! Dammit, I need to move back to the UK C ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin-talk

Re: [SAtalk] src:cid (was Re: More thoughts)

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Update from Silicon Valley: I've seen a couple products in the last few days that send out emails as part of an enterprise software system where they contain an IFRAME to embed a dynamically updating web page inside an email. The idea is you send out an email which then provides a container for t

[SAtalk] CVS Rules site [was Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yahright)]

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Well, one issue is that rules are sometimes evals, with corresponding updates to Mail::Spamassassin::EvalTests You can basically do a limited CVS checkout of just the rules and EvalTests today if you want -- cvs is very flexible that way. Or you could checkout the whole thing, and then only inst

Re: [SAtalk] Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
*/1 * * * * cd ~/code/spamassassin;cvs commit -m 'Round the clock' ;) C On Thu, 2002-03-28 at 02:24, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Olivier Nicole wrote: > >>In many ways, yes. They have a round-the-clock team watching honeypots > >>for new outbreaks and updating rules accordingly. SA is much more >

Re: [SAtalk] Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Maybe we could leave the default as SPAM and then in the docs somewhere hidden say: SPAM really means might be spam. Do not sue. C PS People have way too much time on their hands to spend so much of it wondering about whether someone maybe might sue, and if they did, whether they'

Re: [SAtalk] Stupid Outlook (procmail) tricks revisited

2002-03-29 Thread Craig Hughes
Just FYI, the CVS-version config file option spam_level_stars will be useful for this purpose too, for the less procmail proficient. C On Wed, 2002-03-27 at 23:18, Michael Moncur wrote: > leading zero. This way everything has a 2-digit score, so now I can truly sort > by SpamAssassin score in Ou

Re: [SAtalk] -W limitation/problem (whitelistadding)

2002-03-27 Thread Craig Hughes
27 Mar 2002 the voices made Craig Hughes write: > > > The problem is that outgoing mail follows a different path. I'm not sure > > where you'd interpose the "add to AWL" bit on the outbound path. I guess if > > you know the SMTP server your MUA is sending

Re: [SAtalk] Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-27 Thread Craig Hughes
I still say that if they show up in court to sue anyone, they're exposing themselves to serious countersuits. The only reason I haven't sued a lot of spammers is because I don't think I'd be able to get any judgement against them in a place where I could show they had assets. If they come to me

Re: [SAtalk] Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yah right)

2002-03-27 Thread Craig Hughes
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 20:47, dman wrote: > Still, I think the idea of keeping a backup of the server in a > different locality (jurisdiction) is a reasonable precaution. Come > on, you've read (some) of the ridiculous stuff in the papers and the > news, haven't you? [craig@belphegore spamassassi

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