Re: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.

2004-01-20 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 00:44:35 -0500 Pedro Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I take an opposite view point. ISP's should disable a user's account, > if that account is found to be launching any malicious attacks, > regardless of whether that account was intentionally malicious or was > simply h

Re: [SAtalk] bayes should ignore habeas headers?

2004-01-20 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Pedro Sam wrote: I tried to remove the habeas headers mannually You can get the same results by putting in your preference or configuration file bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-1 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-2 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-3 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-4 bayes_ignore

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.

2004-01-20 Thread Pedro Sam
I take an opposite view point. ISP's should disable a user's account, if that account is found to be launching any malicious attacks, regardless of whether that account was intentionally malicious or was simply hacked. It's time people own up to the responsibility of a presence on the internet.

[SAtalk] bayes should ignore habeas headers?

2004-01-20 Thread Pedro Sam
Hi all, I know everyone is sick of hearing about complaints about the habeas fiasco. (I know I am) But ... a recent habeas spam landed as FN with a score of 4.8. what's interesting is that it only scored a BAYES_50. That's because the habeas headers had been learnt as primarily ham so far.

[SAtalk] Re: Per-user exceptions

2004-01-20 Thread Eric Sorenson
Fred Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have SA 2.61 running spamd on a Mandrake server with Postfix. It sends mail > to our Exchange 2000 server on the LAN. All is ok, except for one user that > wants to opt-out. This user wants to get all messages unmodified by SA (I > think header mods wou

Re: [WL] Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Lucas Albers
detcting obfuscation: html garbage tags:done normal language letter frequency:easy to do, easy to get by just modify random keyword to generate same frequency as english words. This would still catch the stupider spammers doing bayes poisoning. Detect poisoning attempt, and reject an addition to

Re[2]: [SAtalk] One that got through

2004-01-20 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Jonathan, Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 9:45:23 AM, you wrote: JN> Time to feed Bayes again.. I think I have almost 1,000 spams in my JN> spam folder (I feed it when it hits 1000) Why do you wait? I feed Bayes at least once a day, sometimes two or three times. True, I get 700-800 spam each

Re: [SAtalk] URI Rules

2004-01-20 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Dan, Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 9:31:28 AM, you wrote: DK> How efficient are URI rules? I am probably going to have several hundred DK> of these rules, and I'm wondering if that will cause a problem. I'm DK> guessing I will have between 300 and 600 rules. Is anyone else running DK> this man

Re[2]: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Chris, Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 2:41:38 PM, you wrote: CS> I'm not sure where the post is, but about 3 weeks ago I think Dallas CS> put a semi-end to the spell-checker debate :) He ran one and the CS> outcome wasn't so good. Agreed -- we have too many lazy or careles corespondents ;-) fo

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.

2004-01-20 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Fred, Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote: F> F> Today starts day 1 of a massive joe-job against my domain. F> Today also starts day 1 of my crusade to do something to help the F> problem. F> I feel that large providers of high speed internet services (Cable F> / DSL) need

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Joseph, Tuesday, January 20, 2004, 2:54:44 PM, you wrote: >> It has been almost 24 hours since I received the last spam with Habeas >> headers. Possibly my ISP has added a filter to block the >> pharmacourt.biz spam before I see it ... Has anybody else noticed that >> their spam has stoppe

[SAtalk] 'spamassassin -d' not stripping SA reports from email

2004-01-20 Thread C. Bensend
Hey folks, I'm having some problems de-SpamAssassin-ifying some emails. Here is what I am trying to do: 1) Emails coming into my production mailserver are scored via spamc (still SpamAssassin 2.60) and filtered appropriately. This works perfectly. 2) I want to forward some (or eventually

Re: [SAtalk] UPDATES Tripwire 1.16 and Bigevil 2.06k

2004-01-20 Thread JRiley
You can ALWAYS get to any of the SARE rulesets (As well as many others), from the download section of www.spamfighter.org . These are direct links, with the author's permission, to the updated files on the authors distribution sites. Seriously, I requested permission from the authors, to link to t

Re: [WL] Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Sidney Markowitz wrote: > Does anyone who is concerned about the obfuscation have any statistics > to show that it really is a problem for the current rules plus network > tests plus a well-trained Bayes? Right now, there would be no statistics, because the text obfu has jus

[SAtalk] Logging

2004-01-20 Thread Kevin Hoffer
Is there anyway to log what spamassassin hits on? It scores things but I have no idea what it is scoring on, and I am trying to use some of the rules and change the scores but I have no idea which one the 3.30 score that is coming through on this email is coming from. ---

[SAtalk] Re: More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Scott A Crosby
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:37:27 -0500 (EST), Charles Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm starting to see mail with TEXT obfuscation, such as: >I heard you need viagrPa. > Note the capital P thrown in to our favorite 'v' word. > It is really beginning to look like we need a genuine spelling

[SAtalk] Re: Per-user exceptions

2004-01-20 Thread Fred Bennett
Thanks, but as I read it the -d will remove SA's markup for that user, but won't do anything about the main problem, which is the other users being impacted by this one user's decision to opt-out. Ie: they will ALL continue to receive spam messages as long as this one user is one of the recip

Re: [SAtalk] UPDATES Tripwire 1.16 and Bigevil 2.06k

2004-01-20 Thread Frank Pineau
>http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm Thanks for the great ruleset! I just have one niggling little request (and this really applies to anyone who produces public rulesets): PLEASE include the download link (or some other referring link so we know where it came from)

Re: [SAtalk] Per-user exceptions

2004-01-20 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, Run it through spamassassin -d just for that user afterwards via procmail, maildrop or .qmail files ? Regards, Rick Fred Bennett wrote: I have SA 2.61 running spamd on a Mandrake server with Postfix. It sends mail to our Exchange 2000 server on the LAN. All is ok, except for one user th

Re: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Douglas Kirkland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 20 January 2004 14:29, David B Funk wrote: > One quick rule hack that has worked wonders for me for this issue: > > uri L_FAKE_MED_SITE //\b(?:valuepointmeds\.biz|pharmacourt\.biz|pharmawharehouse\.biz|mypillsource\.com|gowebrx\.com|r

[SAtalk] Per-user exceptions

2004-01-20 Thread Fred Bennett
I have SA 2.61 running spamd on a Mandrake server with Postfix. It sends mail to our Exchange 2000 server on the LAN. All is ok, except for one user that wants to opt-out. This user wants to get all messages unmodified by SA (I think header mods would be acceptable as long as subject and body

Re: [SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.

2004-01-20 Thread Richard Ozer
Based on the record, to date, it would be the easiest job in the world Kind of like being the safety officer on the Titanic.   RO   >I can not imagine what it would be like to work for an abuse dept. at an internet company and receive hundreds or thousands of complaints about customers >c

Re: [WL] Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Charles Gregory wrote: So I guess the question is, how 'expensive' would it be in terms of processing power There's also the question of how much benefit would it have. I recall someone trying out searching for close matches to spam words in a corpus and not getting very good results at picking u

[SAtalk] [OT] - The current state spam.

2004-01-20 Thread Fred
  Today starts day 1 of a massive joe-job against my domain.   Today also starts day 1 of my crusade to do something to help the problem.   I feel that large providers of high speed internet services (Cable / DSL) need to do more to protect their customers.   If the Cable / DSL providers wer

Re: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Kelson Vibber
At 02:39 PM 1/20/2004, Sidney Markowitz wrote: Has anybody else noticed that their spam has stopped in the past day? Yep. the last one I saw was around 3am - 12 hours ago. Last week I was getting 100-150 daily. I just routed them into their own folder, and once a day I'd mail off a couple of M

RE: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Rose, Bobby
Wouldn't DCC or Razor pick this up after some reports? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher X. Candreva Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 5:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Charl

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-20 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arpi writes: >Hi, > >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 03:21:06PM -0500, Larry Gilson wrote: >> > http://useast.spamassassin.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning%20op >> > tions >> > >> > bayes_ignore_header header_name >> >> ::bangs head on wall::

Re: [WL] Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Marcus Frischherz wrote: > But there is: there exists (at least in PHP) a function called > levenshtein, which calculates the similarity between two words. Surely > there must exist a perl equivalent to it. see: > http://at.php.net/manual/en/function.levenshtein.php So I g

RE: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Kang , Joseph S.
> It has been almost 24 hours since I received the last spam > with Habeas > headers. Possibly my ISP has added a filter to block the > pharmacourt.biz > spam before I see it ... Has anybody else noticed that their spam has > stopped in the past day? I thought I had noticed the same but wasn

RE: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Santerre
I'm not sure where the post is, but about 3 weeks ago I think Dallas put a semi-end to the spell-checker debate :) He ran one and the outcome wasn't so good. --Chris > -Original Message- > From: Charles Gregory [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:37 PM > To: [EM

RE: [SAtalk] spamassassin + vpopmail + qmail

2004-01-20 Thread Russell Mann
> Can somebody please give me some advice? > > Regards, > Phillip Lucs I tried all of these and more, and finally settled on qmail-scanner style install. I'm using vpopmail, qmail, qmail-scanner, spamassassin, and clamscan. Qmail-scanner is my glue, and is plugged in via the tcp.smtp file. Inf

Re: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Scott Lambert wrote: Your idea turns the HABEAS_SWE test into a network test. Actually it _is_ a network test: It relies on legal means to shut down violators and the HIL to block ip addresses whose use of the Habeas headers can't be or has not yet been stopped by legal means. Instead of reducin

Re: [SAtalk] List moderation and spam removal

2004-01-20 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Sean McCrohan wrote: [snip..] > The problem is that the moderation request the list sends to me gets > wrapped in MIME, and SA (as currently installed) doesn't do a very good > job of analyzing it, in part because there's a set of instructions stuck > on the front that are the

RE: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Terry Shows wrote: > Maybe it is good for -16, but in every case I looked at that passed thought > with habeas set, none of them set the violator, and every single one was > flagrantly spam. [snip..] > > The way it is now, it is just another header that can be added by a spamm

Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Marcus Frischherz wrote: > But there is: there exists (at least in PHP) a function called > levenshtein, which calculates the similarity between two words. Surely > there must exist a perl equivalent to it. see: > http://at.php.net/manual/en/function.levenshtein.php I wonder

Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Bob Apthorpe
Hi, On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Marcus Frischherz wrote: > Charles Gregory wrote: > > >I'm starting to see mail with TEXT obfuscation, such as: > > I heard you need viagrPa. > >Note the capital P thrown in to our favorite 'v' word. > >It is really beginning to look like we need a genuine spelling chec

Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Charles Gregory wrote: > > I'm starting to see mail with TEXT obfuscation, such as: >I heard you need viagrPa. > Note the capital P thrown in to our favorite 'v' word. I was just about to post another one I received, same deal: http://www.westnet.com/~chris/Spam0120

RE: [SAtalk] Schools Slapped? FVGT

2004-01-20 Thread Scott Williams , Area4
Thanks for the feed back. I've already lowered the score to 0.3. I considered changing the rule to excluding the .us domain, but too afraid to break it. I'm glad I have the FVGT rules, no mistake, just surprised by what FP's it created in my school biased environment. SCott At 09:24 AM 1/20

Re: [SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Marcus Frischherz
Charles Gregory wrote: I'm starting to see mail with TEXT obfuscation, such as: I heard you need viagrPa. Note the capital P thrown in to our favorite 'v' word. It is really beginning to look like we need a genuine spelling checker, or some sort of 'approximation' technology, if such exists.

Re: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 02:44:32PM -0600, Terry Shows wrote: > Maybe it is good for -16, but in every case I looked at that passed > thought with habeas set, none of them set the violator, and every > single one was flagrantly spam. +16 not -16 just so people reading the archives don't get the wro

Re: [SAtalk] spamd choking on locks?

2004-01-20 Thread Matthias Fuhrmann
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Dale Harris wrote: > On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:08:56PM -0800, Dale Harris elucidated: > > > > I would have searched the archive for the but SF seems less than > > helpful. I'm seeing a lot of errors like: > > > > Jan 20 03:44:11 skull spamd[27980]: lock: 27980 unlink of lock

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin 2.63 is released!

2004-01-20 Thread Theo Van Dinter
SpamAssassin is a mail filter which uses advanced statistical and heuristic tests to identify spam (also known as unsolicited commercial/bulk email). Downloading --- Pick it up from: http://SpamAssassin.org/released/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.63.tar.gz http://SpamAssassin.org/released/Mail-

[SAtalk] More obfuscation

2004-01-20 Thread Charles Gregory
I'm starting to see mail with TEXT obfuscation, such as: I heard you need viagrPa. Note the capital P thrown in to our favorite 'v' word. It is really beginning to look like we need a genuine spelling checker, or some sort of 'approximation' technology, if such exists. There is no 'pattern' I

RE: [SAtalk] how many spam/ham do I have in my bayes db?

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 4:04 PM > To: Adrian Simmons > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] how many spam/ham do I have in my bayes db? > > > At 03:36 PM 1/20/2004, Adrian Simmons wrote: > >Ralf Vitas

Re: [SAtalk] spamd choking on locks?

2004-01-20 Thread Dale Harris
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:08:56PM -0800, Dale Harris elucidated: > > I would have searched the archive for the but SF seems less than > helpful. I'm seeing a lot of errors like: > > Jan 20 03:44:11 skull spamd[27980]: lock: 27980 unlink of lock file > /home/rodmur/.spamassassin/bayes.lock faile

RE: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread Mike Smith
>RulesDeJour handles updating the add-on rulesets: > >http://www.exit0.us/index.php/RulesDeJour Who's running this with MimeDefang? I'm thinking all I have to do is set up the cron and do a md-mx-ctrl reread. That would kill/restart all the slaves as they come available and should pick up the n

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-20 Thread Arpi
Hi, > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 03:21:06PM -0500, Larry Gilson wrote: > > http://useast.spamassassin.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning%20op > > tions > > > > bayes_ignore_header header_name > > ::bangs head on wall:: How did I miss *that*? Thanks for correcting > my careless reading.

RE: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Webmaster
It looks like I am only running spamassassin, which is loading spamd. I just found my Procmail Mail Filter with the following actions listed: Feed to program: /usr/bin/spamassassin Append to file: spam Match regexp ^X-Spam-Status: Yes Wm > -Original Message- > From: Pete Henshall

RE: [SAtalk] Bigevil updated again :)

2004-01-20 Thread Larry Gilson
Thanks Chris! --Larry > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:spamassassin-talk- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Santerre > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:39 PM > To: Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) > Subject: [SAtalk] Bigevil updated again :) > > Just posted 2.06M w

[SAtalk] spamd choking on locks?

2004-01-20 Thread Dale Harris
I would have searched the archive for the but SF seems less than helpful. I'm seeing a lot of errors like: Jan 20 03:44:11 skull spamd[27980]: lock: 27980 unlink of lock file /home/rodmur/.spamassassin/bayes.lock failed: No such file or directory Is this potentially causing mail bounces? D

Re: [SAtalk] how many spam/ham do I have in my bayes db?

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:36 PM 1/20/2004, Adrian Simmons wrote: Ralf Vitasek wrote: > in case you have SA 2.6x > then just type "sa-learn --dump magic" Ah, yes, exactly. And now that I re-read the man page that seems obvious. I put my lack of understanding down to the non-intuitiveness of the term 'magic' :) Well,

RE: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Terry Shows
Maybe it is good for -16, but in every case I looked at that passed thought with habeas set, none of them set the violator, and every single one was flagrantly spam. I have several email servers I manage, and will set some to zero and leave some alone and see how things change. these folks had a

Re: [SAtalk] how many spam/ham do I have in my bayes db?

2004-01-20 Thread Adrian Simmons
Ralf Vitasek wrote: in case you have SA 2.6x then just type "sa-learn --dump magic" Ah, yes, exactly. And now that I re-read the man page that seems obvious. I put my lack of understanding down to the non-intuitiveness of the term 'magic' :) Well, at least for me. Thanks to Ralf and Matt who bo

[SAtalk] Bigevil updated again :)

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Santerre
Just posted 2.06M wich contains 1 single additional entry for: oem-expert.biz Why just for one domain? Because they are doing a dictionary attack on a fellow list member resulting in a DOS. Let the larting begin! http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/bigevil.cf Chris Santerre Syst

RE: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Pete Henshall
> Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by server by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.20 > (sophie: 3.04/2.14/3.73. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:1(81.128.42.81):. > Processed in 0.621285 secs); 20 Jan 2004 20:08:26 - > If I read that correctly, your message scored a 2.60. My running processes > sho

RE: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Kang , Joseph S.
> Don't do that! You'll miss out on the HABEAS_VIOLATOR rule. > Set it to -0.001 if you want, but don't kill it off. > HABEAS_VIOLATOR is good for > +16. > > A lot of people on this list need to calm down and stop over-reacting. The HABEAS_VIOLATOR test is nice for those sites that also have

RE: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Webmaster
Thank you for taking the time to respond. I feel so illiterate with this. Here's what looks like a relevant line from the header of your mail: Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by server by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (sophie: 3.04/2.14/3.73. spamassassin: 2.60. Clear:RC:1(81.128.42.81):. P

RE: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Evan Platt
--On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:02 PM -0800 Webmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had SpamAssassin running with my Qmail for about a week now, and > have yet to see any mail come through marked with "*SPAM*" -- > even after I set the level to "3"! It appears to be running, but do

RE: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Pete Henshall
> I have had SpamAssassin running with my Qmail for about a week now, and have > yet to see any mail come through marked with "*SPAM*" -- even after > I set the level to "3"! It appears to be running, but doesn't seem to be > doing anything, and I'm still getting dozens of spams in my perso

RE: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Webmaster
I have had SpamAssassin running with my Qmail for about a week now, and have yet to see any mail come through marked with "*SPAM*" -- even after I set the level to "3"! It appears to be running, but doesn't seem to be doing anything, and I'm still getting dozens of spams in my personal mail

Re: [SAtalk] /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf is ignored

2004-01-20 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 07:35:04AM +0100, Claude Frantz wrote: > "John A. Hengstler" wrote: > > > > I have noticed this as well. > > > > I am using spamd on a separate server, and local.cf on that server > > is ignored. I can put rules into /usr/local/share/spamassasin and > > the pull in ju

[SAtalk] List moderation and spam removal

2004-01-20 Thread Sean McCrohan
I moderate a mailing list that's hosted off of a third-party server to which I don't have direct access (beyond the simplistic web-interface of the list-management software). The list is (and must be) open to mail from non-members, and thus collects huge amounts of spam. My plan for fixing this w

Re: [SAtalk] Turning off Habeas?

2004-01-20 Thread Scott Lambert
On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 10:43:05AM -0600, Terry Shows wrote: > FYI: > > I checked my SPAM Rejection log, and found two occurrences this > morning where a spammer put the Hebeas headers in the email, but it > was classified as SPAM anyway (scores of 30+ each). > > This appears to confirm that spamm

Re: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:52 PM 1/20/2004, JRiley wrote: Just curious, if there is a script (be it perl or otherwise), that anyone has written, that will perform an automated 'download' of the different SARE (or other) SA rulesets? I wouldn't think this would too difficult to do, and have a scheduled restart of th

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-20 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:35:28PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: > Actually, it works quite well. Some people get more spam than ham to > specific To addrs, so those become spam signs -- but once a ham arrives > at those addrs, the ham signs outweigh the To spam-sign and redeem > the mail. In theory

Re: [SAtalk] Configure Alt-N Mdaemon's SpamAssassin?

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Thielen
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 18:12, Evan Platt wrote: > I've talked to a few people running Alt-N Mdaemon, and I'd like to run it > at home... It appears it uses SpamAssassin (version 2.55 according to the > headers). And while I like it that it's integrated, I'd rather have more > control over it. Does a

Re: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread JRiley
Thanks for all the replies.. I checked the archive, (like i should have before posting, i know i know..).. -JR www.spamfighter.org > RulesDeJour handles updating the add-on rulesets: > > http://www.exit0.us/index.php/RulesDeJour > > There's no good way to auto-update the main ruleset.. upgrading

Re: [SAtalk] Incoming messages only?

2004-01-20 Thread Ray Dzek
I think the "standard" practice is to run seperate MTA's for inbound and outbound. We run dual instances of Postfix here, as an example. The inbound instance is filtered and the outbound is not. There are many how-to's for doing this for various MTA's. The one I used for Postfix is at http://ad

Re: [SAtalk] fresh installation not working (yp_match: clnt_call: RPC: timed out)

2004-01-20 Thread Fernan Aguero
+[ To [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (20.Jan.2004 16:09): | [snipped] | In case it's useful I have run the same example, now adding | -D to collect more debug info. I am attaching the output. Sorry, forgot to attach the file. It is attached to this message. | +] -- F e r n a n

Re: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread AltGrendel
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 13:52, JRiley wrote: > Just curious, if there is a script (be it perl or otherwise), that > anyone has written, that will perform an automated 'download' of the > different SARE (or other) SA rulesets? > I wouldn't think this would too difficult to do, and have a scheduled >

Re: [SAtalk] One that got through

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Thielen
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 16:12, Jonathan Nichols wrote: > http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam.txt > > It also slipped right by Mailscanner on another host, but I'm surprised > that it scored 0.0 on my SA setup (backhair, weeds, everything in > rules_du_jour) FWIW, here's what it scored on my system:

RE: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Santerre
http://sandgnat.com/cmos/rules_du_jour   I save WY to many emails :)   --Chris -Original Message-From: JRiley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 1:52 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download Just curious, if there is

RE: [SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread Gary Smith
Yes, check the archives for an email from me (bigevil update) or Chris Peterson (all updates -ge, cp, weeds, etc). These were topics last week and last month -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of JRiley Sent: Tue 1/20/2004 10:52 AM To

[SAtalk] An automated way to keep upwith the latest rulesets

2004-01-20 Thread Gary Smith
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Chris Petersen Sent: Sat 1/17/2004 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Ann: "Rules De Jour": An automated way to keep upwith the latest rulesets

RE: [SAtalk] Custom Subject rules not being picked up

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Thielen
On Tue, 2004-01-20 at 14:41, David Logan wrote: > Thanks guys.. > Made the change and also I run spamassassin with mimedefang and I reread > the mimedefang file - now seems to work !! > Cheers. > > Example: > > header SUBJECT_VICODIN Subject =~ /\bvicodin\b/ > > describe SUBJECT_VICODIN Mention

[SAtalk] fresh installation not working (yp_match: clnt_call: RPC: timed out)

2004-01-20 Thread Fernan Aguero
Hi, I just installed SpamAssassin-2.6.1 under FreeBSD-4.9. Installation was from the FreeBSD ports collection. I have not configured anything yet. I just opened INSTALL and USAGE and went through the steps listed there. It appears that, because I've installed SpamAssassin from ports, everything i

[SAtalk] Automated ruleset download

2004-01-20 Thread JRiley
Just curious, if there is a script (be it perl or otherwise), that anyone has written, that will perform an automated 'download'  of the different SARE (or other) SA rulesets? I wouldn't think this would too difficult to do, and have a scheduled restart of the MTA calling SA to implement it.

Re: [SAtalk] Incoming messages only?

2004-01-20 Thread Morris Jones
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Ben Hanson wrote: > I have been unable to find out how to easily > limit Spamassassin's testing and filtering to mail delivered to local > addresses. If you use the howto on spamassassin with virus filtering from advosys.ca, that is what you get. I did the same thing, and

Re: [SAtalk] SA Rule idea: whois

2004-01-20 Thread Derek Harding
On Mon, 2004-01-19 at 18:01, Brad Koehn wrote: > I've been thinking about a new rule, either for Bayes or for more > normal processing, and I'd like the group's opinion. It has to do with > URLs in the message. > > My original thought came to me when running SpamCop on a bunch of > messages. Ta

[SAtalk] Bigevil update 2.06L

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Santerre
Just posted 2.60L. http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/bigevil.cf Chris Santerre System Admin and SA Custom Rules Emporium keeper http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm 'It is not the strongest of the species that survives, not the most intelligent, but the

Re: [SAtalk] URI Rules

2004-01-20 Thread Kelson Vibber
At 09:31 AM 1/20/2004, Dan Kennedy wrote: The rules won't have any wildcards, just basically a big blacklist of URLs found in SPAM. You might want to look into Chris Santerre's "BigEvil" ruleset before you reinvent the wheel: http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm Kelson Vi

[SAtalk] Configure Alt-N Mdaemon's SpamAssassin?

2004-01-20 Thread Evan Platt
I've talked to a few people running Alt-N Mdaemon, and I'd like to run it at home... It appears it uses SpamAssassin (version 2.55 according to the headers). And while I like it that it's integrated, I'd rather have more control over it. Does anyone know if it's possible to configure the SA in Alt-

Re: [SAtalk] SA Rule idea: whois

2004-01-20 Thread Sylvain Robitaille
(followup to my own message ...) On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Sylvain Robitaille wrote: > http://alcor.concordia.ca/~syl/packages/spambounce.pl Sorry! I'd forgotten about the redirection from there to my home web server. I've now made sure the script is available via the above URL ... Anyone who tri

Re: [SAtalk] Enable localized rule descriptions

2004-01-20 Thread Ralf Vitasek
if "export LANG=de" doesnt work try "export [EMAIL PROTECTED]" regards ralf Christopher Kunz wrote: Hi, just a quick question: How do I enable localized rule descriptions? There's a lot of german rule descriptions in the stock SA distribution, but they're not used on my (german) mail server se

Re: [SAtalk] SA Rule idea: whois

2004-01-20 Thread Sylvain Robitaille
On Tue, 19 Jan 2004, JRiley wrote: > I'd be interested in seeing that scriptcan you be persuaded to > share with the class? Of course. In an effort to avoid bothering others on the list who may not be interested, I've placed it at http://alcor.concordia.ca/~syl/packages/spambounce.pl Plea

Re: [SAtalk] changing the description text of tagged messages

2004-01-20 Thread Andy Donovan
There is still ( I believe ) a couple of problems were it capitalizes the word BAYES_ on a couple of lines and I believe he is away on vacation for another week .. although I still see activity in the support forums from him otherwise it is a good tool for those of us on a win32 pl

Re: [SAtalk] Incoming messages only?

2004-01-20 Thread Evan Platt
--On Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:39 PM -0500 Ben Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This seems like one of those questions that probably resurfaces > regularly, and for which the answer is probably buried somewhere obvious, > but nonetheless, I have been unable to find out how to easily limit >

Re: [SAtalk] URI Rules

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
sounds like you're making your own version of bigevil.cf. Chris S found that memory usage was greatly reduced by using regex combos to reduce the number of rules. At 12:31 PM 1/20/2004, Dan Kennedy wrote: How efficient are URI rules? I am probably going to have several hundred of these rules, an

Re: [SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:24 PM 1/20/2004, Pat Traynor wrote: Spamassassin a couple of times, and I have to suspect that a new version changed things. Is this something that I can configure somewhere? start off with spamassassin --lint I suspect you've got some old and invalid things like defang_mime that are causi

Re: [SAtalk] SA-learn with multiple users

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:14 PM 1/20/2004, Kenneth Andresen wrote: Will SA-learn filter all mails for everybody using the same rules, or how can it work with different rule set for each user/mail account? by default bayes databases and rulesets are specific to the user that executes SA (note: that's execution, which

Re: [SAtalk] One that got through

2004-01-20 Thread Jonathan Nichols
5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to 100% [score: 1.] 1.1 RAZOR2_CF_RANGE_51_100 BODY: Razor2 gives confidence between 51 and 100 [cf: 100] 1.0 RAZOR2_CHECK Listed in Razor2 (http://razor.sf.net

Re: [SAtalk] Enable localized rule descriptions

2004-01-20 Thread Matt Kettler
If you want your server to be in german, tell it. export LANG=de note: this may affect other programs on the system that are language-smart as well. At 12:01 PM 1/20/2004, Christopher Kunz wrote: just a quick question: How do I enable localized rule descriptions? There's a lot of german rule d

Re: [SAtalk] changing the description text of tagged messages

2004-01-20 Thread JRiley
>How can I change the text that is included in tagged > >messages, that includes the servername and also includes my > >email address? If you got a Windows box, Michael Bell (Guinevere), has created a usefull win32 app called SAConf , for configuring your SpamAssassin systems. http://www.openhan

[SAtalk] Incoming messages only?

2004-01-20 Thread Ben Hanson
This seems like one of those questions that probably resurfaces regularly, and for which the answer is probably buried somewhere obvious, but nonetheless, I have been unable to find out how to easily limit Spamassassin's testing and filtering to mail delivered to local addresses. I don't allo

[SAtalk] mdpillsource.com using trojaned machines.....

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Santerre
I've been tagging a lot of mdpillsource.com spam. They don't hit bigevil because there is no URI in the text format. However the spam hits a ton of other rules. One thing I noticed is this spammer must be using trojaned machines. THe last one came in from: dhcp-v53-89.cudenver.edu [132.194.53.89])

[SAtalk] URI Rules

2004-01-20 Thread Dan Kennedy
How efficient are URI rules? I am probably going to have several hundred of these rules, and I'm wondering if that will cause a problem. I'm guessing I will have between 300 and 600 rules. Is anyone else running this many URI rules? And does it cause any big performance issues? The rules won't hav

Re: [SAtalk] SA Rule idea: whois

2004-01-20 Thread JRiley
I'd be interested in seeing that scriptcan you be persuaded to share with the class? -JR > I recently wrote a script to automate spam complaints to the contact > address(es) of the previous hop before my mail servers, using both a > Whois lookup by IP address (see Net-Whois-IP-0.35 Perl modu

Re: [SAtalk] One that got through

2004-01-20 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Jonathan Worth changing the X-MailScanner header stuff to be X-%org-name%-Mailscanner in the MailScanner.conf. This was introduced at MS 4.24 (I think) as one of the virus's at the time was putting this in the header to stop MS hosts virus scanning the email! The other headers in there look '

[SAtalk] Subjects not marked as spam anymore

2004-01-20 Thread Pat Traynor
When I initially installed Spamassassin, it would alter the spam's subject line if I choosed to receive the spam. My message subjects would look something like this: Subject: **SPAM** fwd: something something something Subject: **SPAM** Re: something else something else ...etc. F

Re: [SAtalk] One that got through

2004-01-20 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004, Jonathan Nichols wrote: > http://www.pbp.net/~jnichols/spam.txt That's really odd, here it tripped a DATE_IN_PAST rule. Here's the report: Content analysis details: (12.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- --

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