Re[2]: [SAtalk] Character Set Spam....

JM> Charles Gregory writes: >>I've been playing with the 'locales' settings, and they work quite well >>where a message has been properly formatted with 'charset' headers, but >>here's a message whose only visible clue is the use of 'windows-1251' >>in the SUBJECT line. The text is obviously a non

Re: [SAtalk] DNSBL observations and a couple of questions

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 11:02:14PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > sbl.spamhaus.org, > > list.dsbl.org, > > relays.visi.com, > > dnsbl.njabl.org, > > relays.ordb.org, > > blackholes.easynet.nl, #not for long > > dynablock.easynet.nl, #not for long > > dun.dnsrbl.net, > > spam.dnsrbl.net, >

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes File Ownership

I run sa-learn as root all the time, though I don't use spamd, rather I use amavisd-new. In my local.cf I do have: bayes_path /usr/local/amavis/.spamassassin/bayes bayes_file_mode 0770 Guess that should really be 0660. I'm not sure I've ever done a --rebuild manually, if it

[SAtalk] DNSBL observations and a couple of questions

Subject: Re: [SAtalk] RE: *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003 [OT] From: "Gary Carr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:06:31 -0500 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> This is a shame. The guy should do it for a fee and make it a small business. They are the most affective RBLs we have used

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes File Ownership

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Gorm Jensen wrote: > I run sa-learn as root using SA 2.55 and 2.6 on two redhat systems. > Both systems run spamd and call spamc from procmail with -u user1 (or > user2). Because there are only two users, each system has a common > bayes database with file access permitted to

Re: [SAtalk] Rules, rules and more rules

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello spamassassin, Friday, November 21, 2003, 7:13:33 AM, you wrote: s> Having only recently installed SA I'd like to ask about the various s> rules files that abound. s> Is there a listing of the common rules and their target? In addition to Chr

Re: [SAtalk] Getting SA going

Good evening, John, On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, John Oliver wrote: > I installed SpamAssassin from CPAN a couple of weeks ago, so version > 2.55 I believe. I have a .spamassassin directory in my home now, but > it's empty. The docs tell me I should have a user_prefs file, but I > can't find one anywhe

Re: [SAtalk] Getting SA going

On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 06:26:02PM -0800, John Oliver is rumored to have said: > > I installed SpamAssassin from CPAN a couple of weeks ago, so version > 2.55 I believe. I have a .spamassassin directory in my home now, but > it's empty. The docs tell me I should have a user_prefs file, but I > c

[SAtalk] spamd not recognizing %d or %l

in the foreground of shell I run: /usr/bin/spamd --username=popuser -D --virtual-config-dir=/var/qmail/mailnames/%d/%l/configs/ -a in my syslog files I see this: Using default config for qmailq: /var/qmail/mailnames///configs//user_prefs atleast I know why I can not get per user config files w

Re: [SAtalk] header reports missing??

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Dan Tappin wrote: > I have recently installed SA 2.60 from the source code on OS X along side Tenon's > Post.Office mail server. This was a manual > upgrade from the Tenon supplied SA 2.55 release to be used with their supplied SA > 'plug-in'. All is well and e-mail is bei

[SAtalk] Getting SA going

I installed SpamAssassin from CPAN a couple of weeks ago, so version 2.55 I believe. I have a .spamassassin directory in my home now, but it's empty. The docs tell me I should have a user_prefs file, but I can't find one anywhere on my system or in a tarball I downloaded from the site. How do I

[SAtalk] Re: SA in the news: Reason, November issue

Not too sure about the article's comment about no solution being complete. That is, more praise for Bayes, as it stopped 6 out of around 300 today, that would have gotten through without it. Zero spam today. I'm heavy on spam learning relative to ham, but I haven't had any false positives yet.

RE: [SAtalk] Rules, rules and more rules

Bret Thanks for your response. I've dropped those recommended onto my system. I'll see how they go. regards Alan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bret Miller Sent: 21 November 2003 20:54 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Rules,

Re: [SAtalk] No reaction from procmail

Hi Gabrie > Mlocal, P=/usr/bin/procmail, F=lsDFMAw5:/|@qSPfhn09, I think the key here is the "local". Your box is a relay, you dont want it it to do local delivery. Consider looking at milters - the amavis family and mimedefang spring to mind. And buy the Bat book! http://www.

Re: [SAtalk] header reports missing??

At 05:07 PM 11/21/2003, Dan Tappin wrote: Now that I installed SA from scratch I was hoping to fix this. I have 'always_add_headers' and 'always_add_report' set to 1 and my 'spamassassin --lint -D' output looks normal with no errors. Does SA require a perl module to re-write the headers or am I

Re: [SAtalk] Problem with Bayes

I'm still having this locking problem, so I've disabled bayes. I'll look to either moving to spamd/spamc or amavisd-new over the next couple of weeks to see if that resolves my lock contention problems. On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 03:51:49PM -0800, Chip Paswater wrote: > > >I'm having some trouble w

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes File Ownership

> From: Gorm Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:04 PM > > I run sa-learn as root using SA 2.55 and 2.6 on two redhat systems. > Both systems run spamd and call spamc from procmail with -u user1 (or > user2). Because there are only two users, each system has a com

[SAtalk] No reaction from procmail

Hi I'm trying to setup a SMTP server that receives all mail from the internet using sendmail, then scans the mail for spam and forwards the mail through SMTP to my Exchange server. The box is Linux SuSe 8.2. When I telnet to port 25 and write an e-mail, the mail gets transfered to my exchange ser

[SAtalk] header reports missing??

I have recently installed SA 2.60 from the source code on OS X along side Tenon's Post.Office mail server. This was a manual upgrade from the Tenon supplied SA 2.55 release to be used with their supplied SA 'plug-in'. All is well and e-mail is being filters via SA except SA is not adding the sc

RE: [SAtalk] Brian Platt/Hgsi is out of the office.

Oh good, I was wondering if he would be in or not! :/ Brianoh Brian. You but an out of office just for the weekend? He doesn't leave a phone number, but I'm sure it would be easy to find. Also I'm sure these other two people's email addresses would be trivial to guess :) Perhaps I shoul

Re: [SAtalk] RE: *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003 [OT]

Gary Carr wrote: This is a shame. The guy should do it for a fee and make it a small business. It *is* a shame, but did you read the original announcement? Maintainer of *.easynet.nl wrote: Isn't this all kinda sudden? - Yes. Sometimes, you just know that it's time to say goodbye. And the mome

Re: [SAtalk] how does FORGED_RCVD_HELO work?

At 03:30 PM 11/21/2003, you wrote: Here is an example where I tested it manually. Note that I put "random" in for the helo information. Postfix would reject this if the above mentioned option were on. How does the FORGED_RCVD_HELO work or is there another test that might help here? I suspect the re

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes File Ownership

I have experienced this same phenomenon, I would like to hear your solution if you have one. -Original Message- From: Gorm Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:04 PM To: spamassassin Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes File Ownership I run sa-learn as root using SA 2.5

Re: [SAtalk] Character Set Spam....

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Charles Gregory writes: >Hello! > >I've been playing with the 'locales' settings, and they work quite well >where a message has been properly formatted with 'charset' headers, but >here's a message whose only visible clue is the use of 'windows-1251'

RE: [SAtalk] Rules, rules and more rules

> Having only recently installed SA I'd like to ask about the > various rules files that abound. > > Is there a listing of the common rules and their target? Well, Chris Santerre has a site that groups some of the common rules together. It's under development and you'll find it at: http://www.me

[SAtalk] SA in the news: Reason, November issue

I reported this article last month when the magazine was on the stands. Now that the next issue is out, the contents of the previous issue are available online to read. --- This SF.net email is spons

[SAtalk] Brian Platt/Hgsi is out of the office.

I will be out of the office starting 11/21/2003 and will not return until 11/24/2003. I am out of the office. I will respond to your message when I return. If you need anything that is of an urgent nature, please contact Leslie Branch x 2826 or Carl Carpenter at x 2343. ---

[SAtalk] how does FORGED_RCVD_HELO work?

I am trying to use SpamAssassin to be on the lookout for incorrect information the HELO data. Right now, I've been using postfix's smtpd_helo_restrictions reject_unknown_hostname option. It really tweeks customers that a misconfigured exchange server can't email them at all when this is in eff

Re: [SAtalk] RE: *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003 [OT]

This is a shame. The guy should do it for a fee and make it a small business. They are the most affective RBLs we have used to date. Gary > The easynet blacklists/spamfilters (blackholes.easynet.nl, > proxies.blackholes.easynet.nl, dynablock.easynet.nl, > spamdomains.blackholes.easynet.nl, and

[SAtalk] Bayes File Ownership

I run sa-learn as root using SA 2.55 and 2.6 on two redhat systems. Both systems run spamd and call spamc from procmail with -u user1 (or user2). Because there are only two users, each system has a common bayes database with file access permitted to both users. Occasionally, I have discovered tha

[SAtalk] Character Set Spam....

Hello! I've been playing with the 'locales' settings, and they work quite well where a message has been properly formatted with 'charset' headers, but here's a message whose only visible clue is the use of 'windows-1251' in the SUBJECT line. The text is obviously a non-English characterset, but I

Re: [SAtalk] RE: *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003 [OT]

At 01:43 PM 11/21/2003, Mike Kuentz (2) wrote: What are people using for blacklists at the MTA level these days? (null set) I do it all at the SA level, giving the users control over if they discard stuff or not. --- This SF.net email is spo

[SAtalk] sa-learn crash and coredump

I'm getting a crash and core-dump when I try to run sa-learn -D --force-expire on my sizeable bayes database. Here's the output I get, and the backtrace from the core file. debug: Score set 0 chosen. debug: running in taint mode? no debug: using "/usr/local/share/spamassassin" for default rules

[SAtalk] RE: *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003 [OT]

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Todd Schuldt > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003 > > > > The easynet blacklists/spamfilters (blackhol

Re: [SAtalk] Too many rules?

At 06:11 AM 11/21/2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: How many custom SA rules can one use before it starts to slow down the processes? To some degree that's like asking how many files can you store before a server starts to run out of space. A lot of this has to do with your hardware and your mail deliv

Re: [SAtalk] bayes learning

At 04:31 AM 11/21/2003, Fritz Mesedilla wrote: Greetings! I would like to know how to find out if bayes learning is working properly. I know that spamassassin itself is working for it is able to filter spam. sa-learn --dump --- This SF.net emai

Re: [SAtalk] user_prefs

At 08:14 AM 11/21/2003, Jannetta S Lewis wrote: I think I have everything working except that it doesn't seem to take the user_prefs in /home/user/.spamassassin into account. Is there extra configuration neccessary for SA to use the user's user prefs into consideration? No, although by default "r

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Comments on CBL DNSBL (cbl.abuseat.org)

Is this (CBL DNSBL) already tested by SA? If not, is there anyway to include it in SA's tests and score any hits? Thanks team! - Original Message - From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Matt Kettler'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Lukreme" <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [SAtalk] *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003

*snip* > > The zonefiles and associated files will be 'zero-sized' on > that day. The > domains will continue to resolve for a long time, but they > will contain > nothing more than the test records (127.0.0.2 and > example.com), so they will > not catch anything. > > Holy Crap! > - Yep. > *

Re: [SAtalk] *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003

- Original Message - From: "Todd Schuldt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 4:53 PM Subject: [SAtalk] *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003 > From another listserve who originally snipped it from: > news.admin.net-abuse.email > > Dec 1 2003 >

RE: [SAtalk] Evil Rules update!

The popcorn, weeds, backhair, and evilrules are meant to be replaced, not added. Other rules can just be added. The whole site will be overhauled. There are lots of great people working on that. evilrules12c.cf should work much faster then evilrules11.cf The idea is for evilrules to stay fresh. I

RE: [SAtalk] Too many rules?

Depends on your system and traffic. I've had as much as 3000 rules, but low traffic. Good test, try my evilrules! ;) Chris Santerre System Admin and SA Custom Rules Emporium keeper http://www.merchantsoverseas.com/wwwroot/gorilla/sa_rules.htm "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Comments on CBL DNSBL (cbl.abuseat.org)

> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 10:59 PM > To: Mark; Lukreme; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Re: Comments on CBL DNSBL (cbl.abuseat.org) > > > At 01:19 AM 11/21/03 +, Mark wrote: > >I dunno; why is ev

[SAtalk] *.easynet.nl DNSBL's ceasing on Dec 1, 2003

>From another listserve who originally snipped it from: news.admin.net-abuse.email - Subject: [easynet.nl] HEADS UP - The easynet blacklists will be discontinued Dec 1 2003 S.P.Q.N.A.N.A.E atque N.I.M. (tinspqnaneatquenim), The easynet blacklists/spamfilters (bl

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes & speed.

Sorry, that's under heavy load. I stopped access to the server and ran it again and it goes something like this //Without Bayes. use_bayes & auto_learn set to 0. Moved bayes files out of dir to make sure $ ls -alh .spamassassin . .. -rw-r--r--1 filter filter 663552 Nov 9 17:42 old_b

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes Expiry limits and Journal size

I'm working on just that. My thought, and I must admit I don't know all the theory involved, is that the effectiveness of Bayes and the FN/FP is purely a function of how you trained it. The *ONLY* way (in my mind) to score the Bayes functions would be to train it and run the Mass-check. I'm work

[SAtalk] easynet.nl DNSBL (was Re: Comments on CBL DNSBL (cbl.abuseat.org))

Speaking of Easynet.nl blacklists, any truth to the rumor that they are ceasing DNSBL services Dec 1, 2003? Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:20 PM To: Lukreme; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SA

[SAtalk] Postfix+mysql+maildrop and spamassasin need help

Hi all, I am using postfix-2.x + mysql + smtp-auth via pam_maysql + maildrop as LDA and for extended quota support. All is working fine and all configurations are virtuals (no shell acounts, only sql users), multiple virtual domains, etc. Can anyone suggest me a good howto about how to add to

[SAtalk] Rules, rules and more rules

Having only recently installed SA I'd like to ask about the various rules files that abound. Is there a listing of the common rules and their target? Are they all just a matter of dropping the .ch into the SA configuration directory, or is it best to edit before deploying? Are there any recommen

[SAtalk] user_prefs

Hi folks I have just installed SpamAssassin, following the instructions in Greg Webster's How-To on installing SpamAssassin with Postfix+procmail on a site-wide basis, with individual 'spam' mailboxes. I think I have everything working except that it doesn't seem to take the user_prefs in /home/u

[SAtalk] Too many rules?

How many custom SA rules can one use before it starts to slow down the processes? ++ Mike Yrabedra (President) 323 Incorporated Home of MacDock.com, MacAgent.com and MacShirt.com ++ W: http://www.323inc.c

[SAtalk] bayes learning

Greetings! I would like to know how to find out if bayes learning is working properly. I know that spamassassin itself is working for it is able to filter spam. Cheers, fritz --- + Basta Ikaw Lord -- This email and any files

FW: [SAtalk] Evil Rules update!

Hi, I've implemented the latest popcorn, backhair, weeds and evilrules11 on our spam filter - they have hit our spam levels very hard. I see that there are a lot of archive files. Is the idea with these that you add all the archive files into the filter as well or are you supposed to just run w

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes & speed.

It may have something to do with the database you are using... make sure you are using berkeley db . See README files for details... On November 20, 2003 05:02 pm, Mike Kuentz (2) wrote: > I use Bayes in a site-wide config. (2.60 w/ postfix 2.0.16) It has been > running slower and slower with t