[SAtalk] Re: Spamming via sound files, and other intersting techniques

2002-03-11 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Matthew Cline wrote: > On Monday 11 March 2002 06:46 pm, Charlie Watts wrote: > >> Did you play it? (or at least look at it more closely) > > Ah. It's file type *is* "MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows", > so I guess it's a virus. And the raw text of the message has

Re: [SAtalk] SA should block spam that matches government rules

2002-03-11 Thread Kelsey Cummings
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 09:34:04PM -0700, Michael Moncur wrote: > > Spammers are required by law in at least some major jurisdictions to > > include "ADV" and/or "ADLT" in the subject lines of their spam. SA > > should detect this with a very high score. I just got an "ADV ADLT" > > message (no

Re: [SAtalk] Spamming via sound files, and other intersting techniques

2002-03-11 Thread Matthew Cline
On Monday 11 March 2002 06:46 pm, Charlie Watts wrote: > Did you play it? (or at least look at it more closely) Ah. It's file type *is* "MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows", so I guess it's a virus. And the raw text of the message has: Content-Type: audio/x-wav; name=speedte

Re: [SAtalk] Spamming via sound files, and other intersting techniques

2002-03-11 Thread Matthew Cline
On Monday 11 March 2002 08:24 pm, Michael Moncur wrote: > I think that would be a great addition to SA, although I see more virus > emails formatted like that than actual spam. I'm trying the following in my > custom rules file: > > rawbody HTML_FRAMES / describe HTML_FRAMES HTML with an embed

Re: [SAtalk] Re: CommuniGate is also RATWARE

2002-03-11 Thread Rob McMillin
Daniel Pittman wrote: >On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: > >>>I just noticed that CommuniGate has its own test (COMMUNIGATE) but it >>>isn't listed in the RATWARE test. This is of interest because the >>>RATWARE test checks ALL headers, where COMMUNIGATE is a body test. It >>>should be l

Re: [SAtalk] Negative weightings for positive rules?

2002-03-11 Thread Craig Hughes
On 3/11/02 9:29 PM, "Forrest Cahoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 03/11/2002 20:30:17, Michael Moncur wrote: > > (Re: "spam" rules with negative weights) > >> Apparently these rules are either no longer significant spam indicators or, >> in extreme cases, have become non-spam indicators. >

RE: [SAtalk] Negative weightings for positive rules?

2002-03-11 Thread Forrest Cahoon
On 03/11/2002 20:30:17, Michael Moncur wrote: (Re: "spam" rules with negative weights) > Apparently these rules are either no longer significant spam indicators or, > in extreme cases, have become non-spam indicators. The mind boggles. How could the presence of "$$$" carry any weight _against_

[SAtalk] Help the ignorant

2002-03-11 Thread Marsha Hanchrow
(My ISP was unable to help, but he's used SpamAssassin for maybe a day more than I have, and I'm brand new.) I have not been able, from the documentation, to figure out how to personalize my setup. The problems I'm currently chewing on are: I made the mistake of editing my "auto-whitelist.db"

[SAtalk] Re: Negative weightings for positive rules?

2002-03-11 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Forrest Cahoon wrote: > I just started using SpamAssassin, and it seems very effective. > > I have noticed that some of the rules which would logically seem to > indicate that a message *is* spam have negative weightings, e.g.: Others already explained that the GA develops t

RE: [SAtalk] SA should block spam that matches government rules

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
> Spammers are required by law in at least some major jurisdictions to > include "ADV" and/or "ADLT" in the subject lines of their spam. SA > should detect this with a very high score. I just got an "ADV ADLT" > message (no colon following, but I don't think that's required) that > passed by the

RE: [SAtalk] Negative weightings for positive rules?

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
> How were these weightings arrived at? Shouldn't they be positive? The scores were assigned by the GA (genetic algorithm) that determines the effectiveness of rules based on a large group of spam and non-spam messages. Apparently these rules are either no longer significant spam indicators or,

RE: [SAtalk] Spamming via sound files, and other intersting techniques

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
> Did you play it? (or at least look at it more closely) Is it really a > sound file? Some viruses lately are wandering around with different > filenames and content-types. foo.exe and audio/wav, that sort of thing. > > (I'll bet that /http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Research is the process of going

[SAtalk] Negative weightings for positive rules?

2002-03-11 Thread Forrest Cahoon
Hello, everyone. I just started using SpamAssassin, and it seems very effective. I have noticed that some of the rules which would logically seem to indicate that a message *is* spam have negative weightings, e.g.: body Contains word 'profits' in all-caps PROFITS-0.162 bod

Re: [SAtalk] spamd and Solaris syslog

2002-03-11 Thread Charlie Watts
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson wrote: > I have been unable to get spamd to log any messages to syslog "mail" > facility. I have even switched it to "local0" and still no luck. The > odd thing is that spamd does send all syslog messages to the console. > Here is the line that

Re: [SAtalk] Spamming via sound files, and other intersting techniques

2002-03-11 Thread Charlie Watts
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Matthew Cline wrote: > cid:V34tfyBO41605h49r height=0 width=0> > > > Since "V34tfyBO41605h49r" is the sound file, a mail reader with better HTML > rendering would have created a frame with the sound file as it's source, thus > automatically playing it. No need to click an a

Re: [SAtalk] report_header and use_terse_report not working for me

2002-03-11 Thread Charlie Watts
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Mike Loiterman wrote: > I have this in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file: > > report_header 1 > use_terse_report 1 > > They're not working. What am I doing wrong? You probably have another preference file being found and used. Check /etc/spamassassin, ~/.spamass

[SAtalk] report_header and use_terse_report not working for me

2002-03-11 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have this in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf file: report_header 1 use_terse_report1 They're not working. What am I doing wrong? Mike Loiterman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 7.0.4 Comment: Messag

Re: [SAtalk] SA should block spam that matches government rules

2002-03-11 Thread Sidney Markowitz
There's a summary of anti-spam laws of various states in the US at http://www.spamlaws.com/state/summary.html The ones that require some identifying text in the Subject line are (Where only an "Adult" version is mentioned the law only applies to porn spam): California, Colorado, Tennessee: "

[SAtalk] Spamming via sound files, and other intersting techniques

2002-03-11 Thread Matthew Cline
I just got a spam that slipped through SA, which is only a sound file; since you can't find spammish words and phrases in a sound file, it'll get past any filters that there might be. The same spam had another intersting technique, like thus (after decoidng quoted-printable): cid:V34tfyBO4160

Re: [SAtalk] SA should block spam that matches government rules

2002-03-11 Thread Matthew Cline
On Monday 11 March 2002 03:52 pm, William R Ward wrote: > Spammers are required by law in at least some major jurisdictions to > include "ADV" and/or "ADLT" in the subject lines of their spam. SA > should detect this with a very high score. SA does match "ADV:" in the subject, but not without th

[SAtalk] SA should block spam that matches government rules

2002-03-11 Thread William R Ward
Spammers are required by law in at least some major jurisdictions to include "ADV" and/or "ADLT" in the subject lines of their spam. SA should detect this with a very high score. I just got an "ADV ADLT" message (no colon following, but I don't think that's required) that passed by the filter.

[SAtalk] Re: CommuniGate is also RATWARE

2002-03-11 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Michael Moncur wrote: >> I just noticed that CommuniGate has its own test (COMMUNIGATE) but it >> isn't listed in the RATWARE test. This is of interest because the >> RATWARE test checks ALL headers, where COMMUNIGATE is a body test. It >> should be listed in RATWARE. > > The

Re: [SAtalk] Can't locate object method "head"

2002-03-11 Thread Craig Hughes
1. Suggest upgrading to SA 2.11 2. Switch to using Mail::SpamAssassin::NoMailAudit instead of MyMailAudit. C On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 15:09, Emily H. Yau wrote: > Hi. > > I'm trying to set up Spamassassin with Mailscanner for the first time. I receive >the following error when SpamAssasin is ca

[SAtalk] Can't locate object method "head"

2002-03-11 Thread Emily H. Yau
Hi. I'm trying to set up Spamassassin with Mailscanner for the first time. I receive the following error when SpamAssasin is called by MailScanner: Can't locate object method "head" via package "Mail::SpamAssassin::MyMailAudit" at /usr/perl5/site_perl/5.005/Mail/Audit.pm line 791. 786: # --

[SAtalk] -W and -R not working

2002-03-11 Thread Mike Loiterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Trying to set up aliases to spamassassin -W and spamassassin -R but they don't seem to work. I get this error. - - - - The following addresses had permanent fatal errors - "| /usr/bin/spamassassin -W" (reason: internal software error)

[SAtalk] spamd and Solaris syslog

2002-03-11 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
I have been unable to get spamd to log any messages to syslog "mail" facility. I have even switched it to "local0" and still no luck. The odd thing is that spamd does send all syslog messages to the console. Here is the line that I used for syslog.conf: local0.info /var/log/spamd.log spa

RE: [SAtalk] CommuniGate is also RATWARE

2002-03-11 Thread Jason Kohles
On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 12:27, Michael Moncur wrote: > > > I just noticed that CommuniGate has its own test (COMMUNIGATE) but it > > isn't listed in the RATWARE test. This is of interest because the > > RATWARE test checks ALL headers, where COMMUNIGATE is a body test. It > > should be listed in RA

Re: [SAtalk] Stupid Outlook Tricks

2002-03-11 Thread Craig Hughes
Aha! I knew I was including that header for a reason! Brilliant Michael, thanks. C On 3/11/02 9:24 AM, "Michael Moncur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a cute idea for those of us who admit to using Outlook. Inspired by the > X-message-flag headers that certain people put in their mail to

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Matching on attribution lines (was Re: Misc. rule ideas)

2002-03-11 Thread Greg Ward
On 09 March 2002, Kerry Nice said: > Maybe SA needs to come up with a concept of a profile for a user or a > company. This would make the installation more involved, but ultimately > more useful and accurate. Certain rules like your attribution line or > my customized subject could have local

[SAtalk] help?

2002-03-11 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi, I've written twice about needing some help with the whitelist stuff, but no one has responded? Can someone please help me out? Thanks Ricardo ___ Spamassassin-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spama

RE: [SAtalk] CommuniGate is also RATWARE

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
> I just noticed that CommuniGate has its own test (COMMUNIGATE) but it > isn't listed in the RATWARE test. This is of interest because the > RATWARE test checks ALL headers, where COMMUNIGATE is a body test. It > should be listed in RATWARE. The COMMUNIGATE rule is also scored negatively by the

[SAtalk] Stupid Outlook Tricks

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
Here's a cute idea for those of us who admit to using Outlook. Inspired by the X-message-flag headers that certain people put in their mail to annoy Outlook users, I added the following procmail recipe after the message has been piped through SpamAssassin and before the delivery recipe: :0fw * ^X

Re: [SAtalk] Misc. rule ideas

2002-03-11 Thread Greg Ward
On 09 March 2002, Kerry Nice said: > #this one will only work for me, but if it there, it > is 100% GUARANTEED to be spam > #not sure how to make a general case for this > header KERRYSUBJECT Subject =~ /kerry_nice/ > describe KERRYSUBJECT Personalized subject for > Kerry based on email

[SAtalk] CommuniGate is also RATWARE

2002-03-11 Thread Rob McMillin
I just noticed that CommuniGate has its own test (COMMUNIGATE) but it isn't listed in the RATWARE test. This is of interest because the RATWARE test checks ALL headers, where COMMUNIGATE is a body test. It should be listed in RATWARE. -- http://www.pricegrabber.com | Dog is my co-pi

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Rob McMillin
Theo Van Dinter wrote: >On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:26:42PM +, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >>I think the original intention of the count was to make sure we had at >>least three upper case chars, in which case you could get away with: >> >>/^([A-Z]|[^a-z])*?[A-Z]{3,}([A-Z]|[^a-z])*$/ >> >>That need

Re: [SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Craig Hughes
On 3/11/02 4:53 AM, "Michael Moncur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Sergeant wrote: >> I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given >> a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in >> general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the ove

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:26:42PM +, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > I think the original intention of the count was to make sure we had at > > least three upper case chars, in which case you could get away with: > > > > /^([A-Z]|[^a-z])*?[A-Z]{3,}([A-Z

Re: [SAtalk] FWD: SPAM: 213.50 [!CrackMonkey!] SpamAssassin this, MOFO!!! ADV: Your Membership Exchange order -- Question to eBay seller g.r.a.p.e?

2002-03-11 Thread Greg Ward
On 06 March 2002, Joey Hess said: > All in good fun, I suppose. :-) I have a signature that scores about 30 > points in spamassassin, but this is ridiculous. Very cute. You probably should have gzip'ed the message and attached that; I don't think SA can see through .gz (yet!). Was that gem manu

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Rob McMillin
Matt Sergeant wrote: > >Wouldn't an easier fix be: > >/^([A-Z]|[^a-z])*$/ > Interesting. [^a-z] includes [A-Z]. It also matches a zero-length string. How about /^(?:[A-Z]|[^A-Za-z])+$/ ??? -- http://www.pricegrabber.com | Dog is my co-pilot.

Re: [SAtalk] installing in home dir

2002-03-11 Thread Rob McMillin
Faisal Jawdat wrote: > I had this question myself when first trying > SA, but wound up bending the ear of a friendly > sysadmin. Can we make this a FAQ or get it > added to the documentation? > > It *is* in the documentation -- in the README file. -- http://www.pri

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 02:26:42PM +, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I think the original intention of the count was to make sure we had at > least three upper case chars, in which case you could get away with: > > /^([A-Z]|[^a-z])*?[A-Z]{3,}([A-Z]|[^a-z])*$/ > > That needs testing though to make su

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Charlie Watts
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote: > I think the original intention of the count was to make sure we had at > least three upper case chars, in which case you could get away with: > > /^([A-Z]|[^a-z])*?[A-Z]{3,}([A-Z]|[^a-z])*$/ > > That needs testing though to make sure it doesn't backtrack

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote: > On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > > > > > Wouldn't an easier fix be: > > > > /^([A-Z]|[^a-z])*$/ > > That's just way too simple, Matt. Let's try for something more > complicated. :-) > > But it doesn't have the "must have at least XX charac

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Charlie Watts
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > > Wouldn't an easier fix be: > > /^([A-Z]|[^a-z])*$/ That's just way too simple, Matt. Let's try for something more complicated. :-) But it doesn't have the "must have at least XX characters" element that the other test has. Does that matter? I'm no

RE: [SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
Matt Sergeant wrote: > I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given > a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in > general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the overall score, but > doesn't necessarily tip things over. Having said tha

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS regex broken

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Rob McMillin wrote: > Charlie Watts wrote: > > >On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Rob McMillin wrote: > > > >> > >>s/b > >> > >> return $subject cmp uc($subject); > >> > >> > >> > > > >'s OK, I'll share my prize with you. Everybody goes home a winner here at > >"The Regex is Right!" > > >

Re: [SAtalk] BUG: Documentation wrong about sitewide/etc/mail/spamassassin/user_prefs.template

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Craig Hughes wrote: > On 3/8/02 12:37 PM, "Timothy Demarest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --On Friday, March 08, 2002 12:06 PM -0800 Craig Hughes > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Apart from reservation number (1) above, I'd be very happy to have SA Do > >> The Right

Re: [SAtalk] 'Can't locate method "head"'?

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Rodent of Unusual Size wrote: > Greetings! I'm just getting started with SA, so please pardon > any FAQs. I *did* search the archives first, though.. no joy. > > I've installed SA 2.01 and Mail::Audit 2.1 on an RH 5.2 system > running Perl 5.6.1. Mail::Internet is from Mail

Re: [SAtalk] alternate configs through spamc

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Greg Ward wrote: > On 08 March 2002, Craig Hughes said: > > I think for this setup, where most of the addresses are not mapped in > > /etc/passwd (and so have no ~ directory), you should look at storing the > > configurations in a database and use the SQL stuff. > > Blech. I

[SAtalk] Buglet in get_full_message_as_text

2002-03-11 Thread Harald Alvestrand
In Mail::SpamAssassin version 2.01, with Mail::Audit version 2.0, there is a buglet in the Mail::SpamAssassin::PerMsgStatus::get_full_message_as_text routine. It doesn't give a blank line between the headers and the body. Since I realized this only after swearing at my test code for spam-check

Re: [SAtalk] BUG: Documentation wrong about sitewide /etc/mail/spamassassin/user_prefs.template

2002-03-11 Thread Geoff Gibbs
As a new comer to Spamassassin, I have to say that while I like the software, I am not too keen on the installation process. I like to keep the OS as standard and clean as possible and keep additional software in well defined areas that suit me. I am not keen on software that gropes around the sy

[SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Craig Hughes wrote: > Yes, that might be a little high I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the overall score, but does