To many people 'marketing' is a strictly contrived, usually
disingenuous effort to sell products. It's hard not to think of it
that way, given the amount of advertisement present in the U.S. for
stuff we don't need and wouldn't otherwise want. The best marketers
are able to convince themselves
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 19:42 -0700, LouisvillePatrick wrote:
> So I own a Salsa Casseroll, and I'm finding it positively flimsy under
> my 265 pounds, especially under "out of the saddle" efforts.
Are you sure it's not the wheels that seem flimsy?
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Whoops! Yes. 96!
On Jun 3, 11:33 pm, William wrote:
> (I'm an 86cm PBH)
>
> I imagine when you say '86' you maybe mean '96'?
>
> On Jun 3, 7:42 pm, LouisvillePatrick
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > So I own a Salsa Casseroll, and I'm finding it positively flimsy under
> > my 265 pounds, especially under "o
Good call. I'm sure the wheelset plays into this. 32 hole Dura Ace
hubset with CXP33s with a beautiful set of Jack Brown Greens not
pumped up too hard. Absolutely. When I look down at the front wheel
when out of the sadde (just for a second!), I can see the tire
compressing, etc. The spokes so
Well said! I hope that Bernie Mikkelsen has been returned to it's
rightful owner!
>
> I'm definitely not in your frame size range, but the double top tube
> approach is pretty valid - particularly for taller frames which are flexing.
>
> The tall Hilsens were the first to get the twin top tube tr
> My comments were meant as compliments to both for creating niches
> that otherwise would not exist.
I think this statement goes too far.
Riv and Rapha are strong players in their respective niches. Both are
doing better than one might have thought looking at the industry
10years ago.
However,
+3 for Tubus. Or, for a bit more money Bruce Gordon will make you an
even better set custom measured to your bike and needs.
Aluminum racks are fine for light commuting or carrying a few things
on training and pleasure rides. I cannot think of any aluminum rack I
would want on a 2000 mile loaded
For those attending the Cirque du Cyclisme this weekend in Leesburg
VA, I'm showing off a couple bikes that ooze the Rivendell spirit (if
not bits and pieces I've acquired from them). Here's a preview of one
of them; a 1977 Trek TX500 - recently reimagined. It was a blast
putting this one together,
Garth,
Perfect, exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks. I'm bummed
about the FL730, as the quick release is a nice problem solver.
I've got a pair of Dia Compe SS-5 Mark II's (geez, I'm a geek) on the
way from another list member. I'll give those a shot.
Ginz
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My take? Riv has no marketing strategy as such; instead they have Grant's
(a) love of bicycles and (b) whimsical humor. My sense is that the names,
poems, etc. are not at all deliberate, thought out marketing tactics and
strategies as commonly understood -- I write many upper level marketing
resume
On Jun 4, 8:53 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > My comments were meant as compliments to both for creating niches
> > that otherwise would not exist.
>
> I think this statement goes too far.
I don't. I think Mike is spot on. without riv, there wouldn't be
$150 tweed saddle pouches and folks tweekin
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 23:18:34 -0700
> Subject: Re: [RBW] 67cm AHH double top tube inquiry
> From: cyclofi...@earthlink.net
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > to type a few words about it? Maybe post a picture or two?
>
> I'm definitely not in your frame size range, but the double t
I said: My take? Riv has no marketing strategy as such; instead they have
Grant's (a) love of bicycles and (b) whimsical humor. My sense is that the
names, poems, etc. are not at all deliberate, thought out marketing tactics
and strategies as commonly understood -- I write many upper level marketin
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Larry Powers wrote:
> Maybe this is a better question for a frame builder but would wider tubes
> solve the problem just as well as a double top tube? My steel tandem uses
> slightly oversized tubing to add some rigidity. Given the size of the bike
> the wider tub
> I don't. I think Mike is spot on. without riv, there wouldn't be
> $150 tweed saddle pouches and folks tweeking over what shellac/cloth
> tape combination will best compliment their bikes.
Is that Riv's niche? I always thought it was making lugged steel
bikes.
In any event, Carradice, Bertho
On Jun 3, 6:46 pm, thebvo wrote:
> So, I guess I'll need some quality racks. I've
> been looking for steel, and I'd like to stay away from aluminum,
> unless someone can sway me otherwise. .
Some thoughts:
1. I remain a fan of the Blackburn EX-1 Expedition rack, which I think
is STILL the best
Speaking of aluminum racks, I have a Topeak designed for disk brakes, like
this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images/B000FIAVHE/ref=dp_image_0?ie=UTF8&n=3375251&s=sporting-goods
It's beefy aluminum. The right angle attachments to clear the disc calipers
seem to me to be a weak point. Does any
Ben,
congrats on the bike.
When is your trip? I am planning to take most of that same route this
July. Might we cross paths?
-jason
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On Jun 4, 10:13 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> Is that Riv's niche? I always thought it was making lugged steel
> bikes.
as I said, Joel - it's about more than products. did you not read
that part of my post? to be clear and keep things in the context,
there is a niche of riders who identify with
I do not have this bike any longer, but believe the Tubus is a Logo:
http://oswaldcycleworks.com/mjolwhole.jpg
As I recall, Tom used spacers on one side. Sorry, I do not have any
close up photos. It worked fine though.
On Jun 4, 9:31 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
> Speaking of aluminum racks, I ha
There are always Bruce Gordon Cycles Racks.
Check them out at:
http://www.bgcycles.com/racks.html
Regards,
Bruce Gordon
www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com
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And it's a lovely fixed gear! Spacers Duh!
Thanks. PAM
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:48 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
> I do not have this bike any longer, but believe the Tubus is a Logo:
>
> http://oswaldcycleworks.com/mjolwhole.jpg
>
> As I recall, Tom used spacers on one side. Sorry, I do not ha
> and I agree that they wouldn't exist to the extent that they do without
> companies like riv and rapha.
Perhaps if we limit the niche to one in the United States (which would
seem curious, given Rapha is a British company and sells a lot of its
product in Europe) you could say tweed bags and sh
> There are always Bruce Gordon Cycles Racks.
> Check them out at:http://www.bgcycles.com/racks.html
>
> Regards,
> Bruce Gordonwww.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com
To the OP: One thing you will never get with Tubus that you will with
the Bruce Gordon is ready access to the person who actually makes
Another difference is that Bruce Gordon Racks are made in the USA - NOT
China, where the Tubus racks are made.
Regards,
Bruce Gordon
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On Jun 4, 2010, at 8:58 AM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> GP appears to follow what he likes and hopes enough agree that he and
> his employees make a living. Rapha uses a well conceived and executed
> marketing plan to convince people to pay more for merchandise it makes
> than similar merchandise
We had a slow night at work and a perused the Rapha site and I don't
really see the crazy hyperbole everyone talks about. The product pages
seemed mostly descriptive. Of course they were positive, they're
selling the stuff. The other articles and features seemed to be mostly
about the joys of ridin
so.
I'm just now able to ride my bike again since breaking a bone in my
right elbow and doing some soft-tissue damage. I've ridden the
atlantis with albatross bars, the kogswell p-58 with noodles and bar
end shifters and the burley tandem with sti shifters.
And I've found a new reason to not like
Featured in this week's profile is Justin Kline of Princeton Tec. When
asked who he would choose to profile next, Justin answers Grant
Peterson. And "viola", GP is going to be featured next week. I figured
some folks on this list would be interested in checking it out.
Shaun Meehan
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
> Featured in this week's profile is Justin Kline of Princeton Tec. When
> asked who he would choose to profile next, Justin answers Grant
> Peterson. And "viola", GP is going to be featured next week. I figured
> some folks on this list would b
+1 for Bruce Gordon racks-- they are beautiful.
Tubus are nice too(and I have'em) but IMO not in the same league.
Off topic: be sure to go north to south. Going south to north is like
swimming upstream, possible but not as enjoyable.
Cheers!
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+1 on Bruce Gordon rack. I think the racks are better looking,
strong, and made in US.
On Jun 4, 8:15 am, "Bruce Gordon" wrote:
> Another difference is that Bruce Gordon Racks are made in the USA - NOT
> China, where the Tubus racks are made.
> Regards,
> Bruce Gordon
>
> -Original Messa
On Jun 4, 10:58 am, JoelMatthews wrote:
> > and I agree that they wouldn't exist to the extent that they do without
> > companies like riv and rapha.
>
> Perhaps if we limit the niche . .. .
> > and I agree that they wouldn't exist to the extent that they do without
> > companies like riv an
> there's no need to limit it. and for the *third* time, it's not solely
> about product. to be clear, there is a distinct niche of riders that
> identifies with the Riv brand and "rivvish" cycling. same with
> Rapha. both engage in lifestyle branding (that's not to say they go
> about it the sa
I hope somebody with a tall Hilsen chimes in. Particularly someone who
also has experience on another tall bike like a 68cm Ram or
equivalent. I'm riding a 68cm Quickbeam and Atlantis and have no
rigidity problems though I was told by Riv HQ the Hilsen has lighter
tubing than either of those frames
Something appears as "marketing" or even "propaganda" if it doesn't
match up with one's sensibilities. If a message does match up with
one's tastes & preferences, then it just appears as common sense.
The good thing about Riv, Rapha, and anything else bike-related - is
that it has a material use-v
Sorry, I've been out riding my bike...
what did I miss in this ongoing conversation?
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Bike is sold. Thanks!
-tim becker
On May 30, 10:00 pm, tim becker wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> Sorry for the spam. I'm selling my 61 cm Bleriot frameset w/ headset and
> bb. Asking $675 w/ shipping included to a good home. (US)
>
> I'm the second owner, rode it for a couple of months before I got
Make the tubes big enough, and even a tandem doesn't need mid-tubes:
http://www.thetandemlink.com/Images/Calfee/calfee_rolfs1a.jpg
I don't think a solo built with tubes that big would look too
graceful, though. On a frame as big as a 68, an arrangement like the
Hunquapillar might start to make s
Beyond the fact that they are both in the bicycling business, I
personally don't see any similarity between the aesthetic or
'philosophy' of Rapha and Rivendell.One sells expensive bike
clothing made in China for the 'serious cyclist' (their words)*, and
the other seems to encourage riding in t
I just received a Rapha cycling cap in the mail. You may recall it being
advertised on this list recently. My 1st purchase of Rapha anything. (I was
given a Rapha water bottle, but that's another story.) Anyway, the interior
label, 70mm x 100mm in size and sewn to the underside of the crown, sta
I like the "tag, you're it" feature!
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Shaun Meehan
> wrote:
> > Featured in this week's profile is Justin Kline of Princeton Tec. When
> > asked who he would choose to profile next, Justin answers Grant
> > Pe
Just saw this today
http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2010/06/ok-we-lied.html
so if you didn't get one before - you might want to try now.
I have no affiliation with HC - I just liked the print.
-sv
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Hi,
I have some items that are good for Rivendell's that I'd like to part with.
TA Carmina 167.5 crankset with nearly new Phil Wood BB. English threads, 110mm
adapter, 50 x 36 rings. $190 shipped to USA. Is is about 1/3 of what it cost
today. Photos:
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