> and I agree that they wouldn't exist to the extent that they do without > companies like riv and rapha.
Perhaps if we limit the niche to one in the United States (which would seem curious, given Rapha is a British company and sells a lot of its product in Europe) you could say tweed bags and shellaced tape would not exist but for Riv. They were around well before Rive in Europe - especially the UK and France - and certainly in Japan where there has long been a French bike cult. > no, I didn't. you wrote that there is no similar philosophy. I > provided 3 specific, not general, examples of core values (philosophy) > they have in common - appreciation for steel bikes, craftsmanship/ > quality and style. I believe the three categories you provide remain far too broad to create an objective tautology. I concede some others here appear convinced. > I didn't write anything about *business* philosophies. is that the > "philosophy" you were referring to? if so, I misconstrued. Rapha and Riv are businesses. What other philosophy would they have? GP appears to follow what he likes and hopes enough agree that he and his employees make a living. Rapha uses a well conceived and executed marketing plan to convince people to pay more for merchandise it makes than similar merchandise made by its competitors. On Jun 4, 9:46 am, Patrick in VT <swing4...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 4, 10:13 am, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > > > Is that Riv's niche? I always thought it was making lugged steel > > bikes. > > as I said, Joel - it's about more than products. did you not read > that part of my post? to be clear and keep things in the context, > there is a niche of riders who identify with Rivendell very strongly. > there is a niche of riders who also identify with Rapha. these are > the niches I assumed Mike was referring to - that seemed rather > obvious to me. and I agree that they wouldn't exist to the extent > that they do without companies like riv and rapha. > > > The correct term would be Fallacy of Accident. You are assuming some > > general similarities make the two alike. > > no, I didn't. you wrote that there is no similar philosophy. I > provided 3 specific, not general, examples of core values (philosophy) > they have in common - appreciation for steel bikes, craftsmanship/ > quality and style. > > >It is certanly not objective to say Rapha and Riv share similar business > >philosophies. > > I didn't write anything about *business* philosophies. is that the > "philosophy" you were referring to? if so, I misconstrued. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.