Re: [RBW] Re: First Rando of the season

2011-03-16 Thread robert zeidler
I'm actually originally from Guilford and while it's usually a bit milder down there that only meant it was 16 instead of the 12 in my neck of the woods. You went to Hand then. What year? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:38 PM, bassandbike wrote: > I have family near the coast in Guilford, Connecticut

Re: [RBW] Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-16 Thread omnigrid
I'll echo the notion that the ability to run wide tires is always a welcomed bonus, if even you do not have the intention. the option is a great thing to have. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote: > I own a Bike Friday New World Tourist and have ridden both with 1.75 tire

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Scott Postlewait
Thanks for the link Patrick! I rarely read BSNYC, but clicked on your link and was scrolling down at lunch, and in his recap of the Seattle Bicycle Expo there's a picture of my Rawland cSogn - wood fenders, black saddlebag, shellacked handlebar tape Scott "what are the chances of that?"

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Ariel Bautista
Isn't the argument essentially circular though? Those against helmet- wearing argue so in an ultimate attempt to expand ridership and therefore strengthen the demand on cities to provide adequate infrastructure. Those who argue for helmet-wearing are simply addressing the reality that most roads ar

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread michael
On Mar 15, 8:03 pm, eflayer wrote: > not sure what the points of view are, but this guy, to me, is an hot > air baloonfull of hot air. Not even considering his point of view > about helmets, just how arrrogant he sounds/is: > > http://video.tedxcopenhagen.dk/video/911034/mikael-colville-ande

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread lukemcg
To each their own. I ride with a helmet. I ski with a helmet. Will either save me from a catastrophic collision? Unlikely. Could they mean the difference between a slight concussion and a brain bleed leading to death. Does wearing a helmet cause me to think that I am somehow immortal or imper

[RBW] Re: Digest for rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 5 Topics

2011-03-16 Thread dpco
Hey, I could give a shit whether you or anyone else wears a helmet. It seems that you are missing the theme of the video. Maybe you should watch it again. On Mar 16, 7:43 pm, Greg Doggett wrote: > Re; Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason > > If YOU feel YOU need to wear a helmet...do s

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
On Mar 16, 5:11 pm, Kris wrote: > Everyone else is chiming in.so. > > Anyone been on the ski slopes recently?  Talk about creating a market > out of nothing!  I don't know ANYONE who has ever taken a serious > knock while skiing, but suddenly 30%+ of the market is wearing a > shell. > >

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:18 PM, RonaTD wrote: Individuals don't get to benefit from the law of large > numbers to even out the severity distribution, especially because it > only takes one incident to put the individual in the right-censored > part of the distribution. This sounds like a misa

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread cyclotourist
Egads people, start your own google group already. You can call it "Bicycle Helmet Discussion: Is syrofoam for you?" It's quite easy and fun. Really, give it a try. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, se

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 19:18 -0700, RonaTD wrote: > > On Mar 16, 11:10 am, Jan Heine wrote: > > At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at the statistics > > and figuring out whether helmets make riding safer, whether risk > > compensation really is a factor, etc > > As somebody who make

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread RonaTD
On Mar 16, 11:10 am, Jan Heine wrote: > At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at the statistics > and figuring out whether helmets make riding safer, whether risk > compensation really is a factor, etc As somebody who makes his living being dangerous with statistics, let me gently wa

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread charlie
On helmet effectiveness: If you weigh over 150 pounds, fall from a height greater than a meter, go faster than about 14 mph or hit any surface that is not flat, your helmet may not work for you. For minor bumps they are better than nothing but pretty useless against heavy impacts. On cycling increa

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Tim McNamara
On Mar 16, 2011, at 6:48 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: >> Bottom line, I don't care what statistics show, either in favor or >> against, nor will I EVER. I will ignore them over my own gut intuition That stance is always at some risk of becoming "I know what I know, don't confuse me with the facts."

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Robert F. Harrison
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM, James Valiensi wrote: > One thing wearing a helmet will protect you from, is having to listen to > folks to tell you should have a helmet on. > There is that, and my other favorite reason for wearing a helmet. I commute a lot and end up riding at night on city st

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread rob markwardt
You never know when you'll need one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/4925175273/ PS. If you tell me walking is more dangerous than cycling I kind of tune out everything else you saywhat did he say? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Ray Shine
Same thing just happened to me, Bruce. helmet split 3 " up the left side. I was dazed, but able to barely function.  Too bad I didn't have a helmet for my right  collar bone, which snapped completely in two.  Even worse, the collision with that guard rail was ENTIRELY my fault. __

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread NickBull
If you could carry a magic, gold thread that weighs a microgram and costs a penny for a hundred of them and would cut the rate of serious or fatal injuries by 99%, would you do it? What if it only cut the injury rate by 1%? Keep in mind -- it's only a penny per hundred, and only a microgram. You

[RBW] Re: Lumpy Hetres

2011-03-16 Thread Rick Smith
"This happened on Col de Vie tires for me once." +1 Never happened with the Hetres. On Mar 16, 4:21 pm, Kenny wrote: > This happened on Col de Vie tires for me once.  I pumped up the tube > without a tire and it buldged.  So I put on a better tube.  No more > lump. >   Also, on another bike, the

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Travis
Also, while out riding today. I was passed by a carload of four teenage boys. As they passed, one reached way out of the window, grabbed my shirt at the shoulder and tried to yank me to the ground. It didn't work (though I ended up in a confrontation with all of them after giving them the fingers),

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Bruce
Bike crashes are not fun. Mine was like slo-mo, and my head whipped down hard onto the asphalt. My helmet cracked, my head did not. Replaced the helmet, kept the head. From: Travis To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 7:45:51 PM Subject: [RBW] Re:

[RBW] Re: this is how i roll (bike porn)

2011-03-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Rollin in SERIOUS style... Beautiful build. On Mar 15, 12:45 pm, Brett Lindenbach wrote: > finally got the > blériotbuilt > enough to ride to work today on her maiden voyage... > more/better pictures to come. > cheers, > bdl

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Travis
Ann, Unfortunately evidence like that is unquantifiable, so we'll never see it. It's impossible to say for sure how bad an injury "could have been." They only way to prove it to yourself is to have a close call in which your helmet gets destroyed but you walk away fine. This happened to me and tur

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
DOH, my bad Thanks, William (and apologies for starting rumors... Miranda is alive and well) You very funny... On Mar 16, 8:39 pm, William wrote: > "How about Miranda Richardson, for starters " > > MBB translation App INITIATE! > > When Montclair said Miranda, he meant Natasha > > MBB

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread James Valiensi
One thing wearing a helmet will protect you from, is having to listen to folks to tell you should have a helmet on. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 On Mar 16, 2011, at 4:48 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: >> Bottom line, I don't care what statistics show, either in favor

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread William
"How about Miranda Richardson, for starters " MBB translation App INITIATE! When Montclair said Miranda, he meant Natasha MBB translation App TERMINATE! On Mar 16, 5:33 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Kris:   How about Miranda Richardson, for starters Her fall didn't > seem so serious a

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Kris: How about Miranda Richardson, for starters Her fall didn't seem so serious at the time it happened, but had she been wearing a helmet she'd likely still be alive. I'm a mountain biker and snowboarder, and I can't imagine doing either without a helmet. THAT to me would be idiotic... th

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread johnb
Jan, I think a objective view (as much as that can be accomplished) would be interesting. I always look forward to the magazine, read it cover to cover, and even if I don't agree with you I enjoy the magazine immensely. I personally thought the Tedx video was interesting, well done even, and cause

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Anne Paulson
> Bottom line, I don't care what statistics show, either in favor or > against, nor will I EVER. I will ignore them over my own gut intuition I am the complete opposite-- I believe statistics-crazed sports nerd is the term of art here. My gut would like to be informed by accurate statistics on the

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Kris
I can state with 100% confidence I did not know Sonny Bono! ;-) On Mar 16, 7:15 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:11 -0700, Kris wrote: > > Anyone been on the ski slopes recently?  Talk about creating a market > > out of nothing!  I don't know ANYONE who has ever taken a serio

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread William
I think he's in cahoots with Natasha Richardson in the conspiracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natasha_Richardson On Mar 16, 4:15 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:11 -0700, Kris wrote: > > Anyone been on the ski slopes recently?  Talk about creating a market > > out of nothi

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:11 -0700, Kris wrote: > Anyone been on the ski slopes recently? Talk about creating a market > out of nothing! I don't know ANYONE who has ever taken a serious > knock while skiing, but suddenly 30%+ of the market is wearing a > shell. > "Who is Sonny Bono?" http://en.w

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Kris
Everyone else is chiming in.so. I wear a helmet when mountain biking in my typical fashion. I ride NC and Southeast singletrack with very steep, rocky descents as fast as I can. I have broken more than one helmet via crashes. It would be idiotic to not wear a helmet. I suspect even the

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 15:06 -0700, pcooley wrote: > > I guess it's also worth pointing out that the statistics come from the > Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute. That's hardly an unbiased source. I > would accept Bicycle Quarterly as being somewhat more authoritative. > Why is BHSI "biased," in

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread William
Do I have to tell people I'm a civil libertarian if I agree enthusiastically with Montclair Bobby B? Is there a pin I have to wear? On Mar 16, 3:47 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > (Sorry I'm getting sucked into furterh debate, but... ) honestly I > don't believe there's a legitimate argument for o

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
(Sorry I'm getting sucked into furterh debate, but... ) honestly I don't believe there's a legitimate argument for or against, regardless of statistics. This comes down to a person's perception and sensitivity to risk. Do you have tornado insurance? Flood insurance? These choices (and they're y

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread pcooley
And just one more for Jan -- how many randonneurs in the past suffered head injuries. I don't see many helmets in those old pictures. If there really is a strong correlation between bicycling and head injuries, then there is sure to be some discussion of it in the vintage literature. Paul Cool

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread William
1) Do helmets reduce the extent of head or neck injuries incurred by impact to the head? YES 2) Does getting off the couch dramatically increase your risk of suffering brain damage, death, or paralysis due to impact to the head versus staying on the couch? YES Therefore, either stay on the couc

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Anne Paulson
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Travis wrote: > Ann, to indulge your semantic reply I will change #2: > > 2) Does cycling dramatically increase your risk of suffering brain > damage, death, or paralysis due to impact to the head versus > showering? Here's what I want to know, and what I haven't

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread pcooley
I guess it's also worth pointing out that the statistics come from the Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute. That's hardly an unbiased source. I would accept Bicycle Quarterly as being somewhat more authoritative. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW O

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread pcooley
I swore to myself I wouldn't jump in on this argument, but as a fellow New Mexican, I thought I would jump in here with Patrick. Mark Twain said that there were lies, damn lies and statistics. The problem with this particular set of statistics is that it is only measuring one thing. Who do I see

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Travis wrote: > Ann, to indulge your semantic reply I will change #2: > > 2) Does cycling dramatically increase your risk of suffering brain > damage, death, or paralysis due to impact to the head versus > showering? > > Yes, almost definitely. > > Evidence, the w

[RBW] Re: Helmet use and how dangerous are bikes versus cars

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Merkin
I usually don't interject but having worked in neurosurgery for the last 12 years I would say wear a helmet. If you have never seen somebody fracture their skull then you are missing outit only takes one fall. On Mar 15, 11:25 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Well put, Kelly. I am open on the que

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Travis
Ann, to indulge your semantic reply I will change #2: 2) Does cycling dramatically increase your risk of suffering brain damage, death, or paralysis due to impact to the head versus showering? Yes, almost definitely. On Mar 16, 4:25 pm, Anne Paulson wrote: > If your argument works equally well

[RBW] Re: Vapor Barrier Layer / Econo-super-gloves

2011-03-16 Thread AmiSingh
VAPOR BARRIER LAYER (VBL) in full effect! A week and a half ago I performed an experiment, based on information on VBLs I read in Robert Wood's Pleasure Packing, recommended by GP. Below is my report, as posted to Facebook. My friends made a lot of fun of me, but I'm okay with that :) 12:19 PM:

Re: [RBW] Re: Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-16 Thread Rene Sterental
Bob & Ryan, Thank you very much for your feedback. I'll be e-mailing you off-list with a few additional questions. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.

[RBW] Econo-super-gloves

2011-03-16 Thread William
A couple months back I stopped at the cafe in the middle of a cold training ride. I had a conversation with an oldtimer on a custom Mikkelsen who was wearing blue nitrile gloves. I didn't ask him why he was wearing them but it got me thinking about emergency waterproof stuff for cool and rainy br

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Philip Williamson
> >> At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at the statistics and > >> figuring out whether helmets make riding safer, whether risk compensation > >> really is a factor, etc. I believe there is a need for real data, rather > >> than opinion, on the subject. > > Please don't include it. I

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Anne Paulson
If your argument works equally well if we substitute "being a pedestrian" or "taking a shower" for "cycling," then you might want to reconsider your logic. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Travis wrote: > I've searched extensively as well and cannot find anything > scientifically convincing. How

[RBW] Re: Lumpy Hetres

2011-03-16 Thread Kenny
This happened on Col de Vie tires for me once. I pumped up the tube without a tire and it buldged. So I put on a better tube. No more lump. Also, on another bike, there was a wobble. I changed the spoke tape getting the tire to seat better. Helped some. On Mar 16, 12:33 am, brian feltovich

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Travis
I've searched extensively as well and cannot find anything scientifically convincing. However, here are a couple of very simple questions which may be helpful: 1) Do helmets reduce the extent of head or neck injuries incurred by impact to the head? 2) Does cycling increase the likelihood of impact

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread NickBull
I thought Steve Palincsar's post was the most interesting in this thread. I've been driving for 46 years and cycling for 56. In that time, I have never been involved in a car crash that involved any bodily injury whatsoever. Knock on wood. But I have been involved in quite a few bicycle crashes

[RBW] Re: Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-16 Thread rcnute
Rene: I was in the same boat and ended up getting a NWT. The LLama looked great but the bottom bracket was considerably higher and on my standard bikes I like a lower bottom bracket. Ryan On Mar 15, 10:51 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > With all the expertise in this group, I'm going to take the li

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread SISDDWG
The helmet issue is like the God issue in that you can't convince a believer of anything. They have a deep seated need to believe or abandon head protection. On Mar 16, 9:10 am, Jan Heine wrote: > >  to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet > >  and imply that they

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Shucks, 'twas nuthin, really. More eloquent by far than I, BSNYC indulges in some amusing punditry and soul moving commentary on recent "bicycle safety rules" here: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/ On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:07 PM, MontclairBobbyB wrote: > Patrick; > > I'm sure I've already tol

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread grant
I included the link because I thought it was interesting. A stir, OK, but at some point it's time to move on. The arguments FOR are well- known. The arguments against, whether you buy them or not, get your brain working and help you settle the issue with yourself. It is unlikely that any discussion

[RBW] Re: First Rando of the season

2011-03-16 Thread bassandbike
I have family near the coast in Guilford, Connecticut (I grew up in Madison) and they have been buried all winter. That you got any miles at all is a plus! They said it's the most brutal winter they've seen there. I love the Connecticut River valley. Good luck with the season! Patrick Louisvil

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Kelly: I hope you understand my definition of "colorful" in this context to mean "exceptional"... Looking forward to not only a few days of great riding (at Riv Rally East), but having a great meeting of the minds... (A bigger question, perhaps... Will you bring your Hilsen or your Bomba?) Peace

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Bad enough I have to tape the keyboard now I'll have to tape my mouth to stay out of trouble. Helmets are safer than no helmet. Fact Hell a piece of leather is safer than nothing. Just for me the risk is so low that I choose to not wear one at times. I only wear seat belts because of the damn

[RBW] Re: Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-16 Thread Peter Pesce
I would say get the bike that is easiest to travel with, regardless of tire size, as that is the reason for your purchase to begin with. You will then be more likely to have a bike with you, with is better than having no bike with you, regardless of tire size. Just my 2mm. -Pete -- You recei

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread MontclairBobbyB
Patrick; I'm sure I've already told you this, but I'll be first in line at your book signing... you are indeed fun to read. (In fact if you have a reason to travel East, you should consider joining us for Riv Rally East May 6-8... With Robert Zeidler, Steve Palincsar and Kelly Sleeper (among othe

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
A mons parturating (or perhaps "cacare" is better -- "Culus tibi purior salillo est, nec toto decies cacas in anno"; yes, I had to look that up) Charlie Sheen would be even more ridiculous. Who needs satire? God preserve us from becoming rich, famous, sexy and important or more of us would end up l

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I guess one could point to examples where helmets could have made a difference (Gary Busey, for example)... But then to be fair helmets may not always protect one from one's actions... (Charlie Sheen, for example). Personally I choose to ride with a helmet, because I've endoed enough to be thankf

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
All, particularly Seth and whoever ekoral is: Sorry, I did not mean to sound snarky. I really think Jan can do many, if not all, cyclists a great favor by intelligently analyzing the data pro and con. AFAIK, there is no comprehensive, statistically competent review of the primary statistics. If st

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:00 AM, ekoral wrote: If you look at this website: http://www.bhsi.org/stats.htm , you can see that of all bicycle deaths in 2008, 91% were not wearing helmets, while the other 9% were. I think that's a rather clear statistic. You may have a low chance of actually getting

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread muckum
Fear is one thing. Reasonable caution and preparedness is another. Munich/ Zurich/ etc. is not Los Angeles my friends. People here hit cycles, sometimes intentionally, sometimes not. I have encountered both first hand and I don't even commute. Basic gear like a helmet is just common sense. It works

Re: [RBW] Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-16 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I own a Bike Friday New World Tourist and have ridden both with 1.75 tires and my current 1.50 Schwalbe Marathons. Just to be sure I've got Riv content my NWT has actually visited Walnut Creek and sat with all the employee bikes while I fell in love with a Bombadil (but ended buying one of the last

[RBW] First Rando of the season

2011-03-16 Thread robert zeidler
The first of the Berkshire Series randos is this Sunday, a 100k, jaunt through the Ct River valley and I don't think I have the legs for it. This winter was a pretty tough one, and despite some really good trainer sessions (Spinervals), and getting about 100 miles in Feb, and a like amount so

Re: [RBW] March 13, 2011 Ride Report

2011-03-16 Thread robert zeidler
Slowly but surely Spring will come. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:35 AM, AmiSingh wrote: > March 13 was a lovely day for a bicycle ride. > > ‎60ish miles in 33* weather with very light snow first. iPhone that > the best Samaritan picked up and returned. Frozen-blue toes. New > riding friend Ed-th

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread ekoral
As someone who bicycles everyday in a metropolitan city (SF) and also has been in a near fatal car/bicycle accident, i use a helmet every time i ride. People drive crazy here, and not wearing a helmet and getting hit by a car can mean the difference between a hospital stay and a trip to the morgue.

Re: [RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread robert zeidler
Michael, Judging by how the roads fared down here this winter, yours must have been just destroyed. RGZ On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:50 AM, MichaelH wrote: > My experience confirms that safety concerns are the biggest impediment > to getting people on bicycles.  No doubt, the ubiquitous helmet > co

[RBW] Re: Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-16 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
In a Rivndellian spirit, I would say get the bike that will take the largest tires possible. Plus fenders! Even if you don't run tires that wide 90% of the time, you still have the option of it for the other 10%. My $.02 On Mar 15, 10:51 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > With all the expertise in th

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Kelly Sleeper
I think style of riding is important as well. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Jan Heine wrote: >> to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet >> and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. > > The same arguments were made

[RBW] Re: Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread Pete
Oh yes, it seems that Chris at VO didn't let me post a link to the producer of their hubs in his blog. Make me wonder... ; ) On Mar 16, 4:51 pm, Pete wrote: > Thanks for the info and I'm sure it's a great buy! But depending on > the type of riding (brevé) I'm not sure it's right for me. In my bo

[RBW] Re: Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread Pete
Oh yes, it seems that Chris at VO didn't let me post a link to the producer of their hubs in his blog. Make me wonder... ; ) On Mar 16, 4:51 pm, Pete wrote: > Thanks for the info and I'm sure it's a great buy! But depending on > the type of riding (brevé) I'm not sure it's right for me. In my bo

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Pete
Jan, I for one use helmets every time since they've saved my bacon more than once. No doubt a helmet will help once the accident is a fact. But I think Mikael Colville Andersen's point is that cites does not live up to their responsibility to offer cyclist a safe liveable environment. Instead we ar

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Anne Paulson
I could not disagree more. We need good data. Far too often the discussion devolves to, "Well I work in a hospital and we see lots of cyclists with head injuries," (yes, but you don't see the cyclists who ride around for years never getting head injuries) versus, "I've ridden around for years and g

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread newenglandbike
On Mar 16, 12:10 pm, Jan Heine wrote: > Seatbelts don't keep people from driving. But this analogy isn't very strong-- a seatbelt is not a helmet, and the automobile industry is deliberately not selling/pushing helmets (as the seminar's speaker points out), even though automobile accidents are

[RBW] Re: Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread Pete
Thanks for the info and I'm sure it's a great buy! But depending on the type of riding (brevé) I'm not sure it's right for me. In my book the switch is better placed on the lamp than on the hub. I'd like to get a B&M Kraftwerk dynamo charger for the vacation this year and buy or build a three LED-l

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 08:10 -0800, Jan Heine wrote: > > to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet > > and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. > > The same arguments were made when Preston Tucker wanted to include > seatbelts in his car

[RBW] Re: Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread Pete
Thanks for the info and I'm sure it's a great buy! But depending on the type of riding (brevé) I'm not sure it's right for me. In my book the switch is better placed on the lamp than on the hub. I'd like to get a B&M Kraftwerk dynamo charger for the vacation this year and buy or build a three LED-l

[RBW] Re: Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread Pete
Thanks for the info and I'm sure it's a great buy! But depending on the type of riding (brevé) I'm not sure it's right for me. In my book the switch is better placed on the lamp than on the hub. I'd like to get a B&M Kraftwerk dynamo charger for the vacation this year and buy or build a three LED-l

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I strongly disagree with Seth here -- no offense meant, but BQ could do a > very great service to the debate, which won't go away. > I think there is no such thing as 'service to the debate'. I do not think the undecided are reading BQ and

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I strongly disagree with Seth here -- no offense meant, but BQ could do a very great service to the debate, which won't go away. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan Heine wrote: > > > > At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at th

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This kind of analysis, even of existing statistical data, would greatly help set the record straight about (1) the danger of cycling and (2) the protective usefulness of helmets -- the questions are related but different. I would very much like to see it. I base my own abandonment of helmets partl

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:10 PM, Jan Heine wrote: > > At Bicycle Quarterly, we are considering looking at the statistics and > figuring out whether helmets make riding safer, whether risk compensation > really is a factor, etc. I believe there is a need for real data, rather > than opinion, on th

Re: [RBW] Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Jan Heine
to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. The same arguments were made when Preston Tucker wanted to include seatbelts in his cars. His board thought it implied that Tucker cars were unsafe. (

[RBW] Re: March 13, 2011 Ride Report

2011-03-16 Thread Michael_S
Nice ride and pictures. Love that De Rosa too. ~Mike On Mar 15, 11:05 pm, AmiSingh wrote: > It may be easier to follow the story if you start at the link below > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/5530527350/ > > And navigate by clicking 'newer'. > > On Mar 16, 1:35 am, AmiSingh wrote: > >

[RBW] Re: Tire size question... don't know where else to ask it.

2011-03-16 Thread Minh
I do not have a BF foldable, but i do have a small wheel foldable, and i would prefer the biggest tires i could get on the small bike. Maybe it's just me but i find it more difficult to 'absorb' the road with the smaller bike then a regular one. I would think for urban riding in unknown places th

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Well said, Matt. A very stylish former girlfriend, who has little or no interest in bikes, fell in love with an Electra Amsterdam purely as a fashion accessory. In the end she decided that spending $500 on a bike was out of the question (she can buy decent earrings with that kind of money!) --

[RBW] Re: Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
For wheelbuilding purposes, a dished wheel is not much more difficult to build than a non-dished wheel. You may have two different spoke lengths, but otherwise the process is the same. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To pos

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread MichaelH
My experience confirms that safety concerns are the biggest impediment to getting people on bicycles. No doubt, the ubiquitous helmet contributes to that fear, but I am convinced that fear has two other deeper causes. First, far too many roads where most commuters ride are unnecessarily dangerous

[RBW] Re: Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
Thanks for the info! Hi! I can't assert with any Jobst-ish analysis or data that dish makes much difference, though obviously there are those with more knowledge than I who feel pretty strongly about it, both "yes" and "no". But... though I have a wheel history that has left me with an unhealthy

Re: [RBW] Switchable dynamo hub

2011-03-16 Thread erik jensen
switchable but weighs 700 grams. I leave my light on, and my hubs weigh much less. solution in search of a problem generating a new problem (extra weight). no thanks On Monday, March 14, 2011, charlie wrote: > You might also look at the Sanyo hub from Peter White he sells it for > $40 and it ha

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread newenglandbike
Can't comment on the speaker's delivery, but what does that matter? I pretty much agreed with most of what the guy said, that is, to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. Conversely, the overbe

[RBW] Re: Grant refers to this helmet guy for some reason

2011-03-16 Thread newenglandbike
Can't comment on the speaker's delivery, but what does that matter? I pretty much agreed with most of what the guy said.That is, to get people on bicycles, you don't want to force them to wear a helmet and imply that they are doing something more dangerous than driving. Conversely, the ove