[RBW] Re: I Got Your Pandas For You

2011-01-28 Thread JL
HA! On Jan 28, 11:28 pm, JimD wrote: > Right here... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5396768509/ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5396768059/ > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5397363138/ > > Been pondering this Panda thing.  Still not sure if I'm getting it. > >

[RBW] Re: Looking For Nigel Smythe Big Box

2011-01-28 Thread Jim M.
Here's a used Sackville: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/2184536680.html The larges are enormous. NFI jim m wc ca On Jan 28, 8:37 pm, Kelly Sleeper wrote: > Sheesh.. I'm in trouble yet again.. :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bun

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-28 Thread charlie
At what cost though ? Concrete cracks and weathers and weeds grow through it just as it does with asphalt. It costs quite a bit to maintain roadways.less autos = less money for maintenance= more bicycles with wide tires ! Have you ever watched any of those ridiculous doomsday movies that s

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy questions

2011-01-28 Thread MobileBill
Illuminating. Thanks for setting up the photos. Rear 3 looks mighty tight at the bridge(?) connection, but that might be camera angle. Rumor is that Riv will soon be stocking new cream colored SKS. Have convinced my wife that these will appeal to her aesthetic as much as the elven-hammered honjos.

[RBW] Re: Looking For Nigel Smythe Big Box

2011-01-28 Thread Kelly Sleeper
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[RBW] Re: Looking For Nigel Smythe Big Box

2011-01-28 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Please don't tell anyone I already have two.. I just am really in love with the Big Box Bag. :) Sheesh this bag is gonna be as hard to get as a 68 cm Quickbeam.. :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, se

[RBW] I Got Your Pandas For You

2011-01-28 Thread JimD
Right here... http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5396768509/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5396768059/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/5397363138/ Been pondering this Panda thing. Still not sure if I'm getting it. -JimD -- You received this message because you are su

[RBW] Re: Looking For Nigel Smythe Big Box

2011-01-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Dear Mr. Kelly: We regret to inform you that you have exceeded the maximum number allowable by law of Nigel Smythe Big Box bags, and any future purchases will be in direct violation of Riv Statute No 3235 "No one person may own more than two (2) Nigel Smythe bags at any one time, especially when t

[RBW] Looking For Nigel Smythe Big Box

2011-01-28 Thread Kelly Sleeper
So I have a Nigel Smythe Big Box on my AHH and now that I have a Bombadil I want another one. Yet they don't make them. Now it doesn't have to be the Nigel Smythe but one that looks great and is tall so that it can hang from the seat and still reach my rear rack... since I'm lovin the Big Bo

Re: [RBW] San Diego Riv'ers

2011-01-28 Thread John Speare
Hmm. Current plan is to fly out the Friday morning that the show starts... may have to rethink that one. But back to the original question. San Diego locals -- I cooked up a Bikely query (http://tinyurl.com/4sdq2mh), which is bringing up 14 routes. Any obvious winners

[RBW] Re: RBW style bike security

2011-01-28 Thread JoelMatthews
Right crafty of you Patrick. Abus level security at a fraction of the price. I wouldn't be surprised if this turned out more rugged than many a rack or pole you attach it to. The only thing more secure will be when someone figures out how to duplicate the alloy Predator used for its lances. As

Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-28 Thread zeidler . robert
No of course not. Just home-team 1st trade. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve Palincsar Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:20:39 To: Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Wat

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy questions

2011-01-28 Thread William
Here's the photos http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5396494939/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5397091824/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5397092882/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5397092378/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5397092082/ The tight

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy questions

2011-01-28 Thread William
My wife has a 52 Betty (well, an Yves if you want to get technical). I have a wheelset with Hetres, so I could throw those wheels on and photograph the clearances. The Yves is not running fenders at the moment. I have no doubt I could fit fenders, but I've been happily using SKS plastics. Having

Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy questions

2011-01-28 Thread Rene Sterental
I bought a Betty for my daughters to borrow from me... :-) Bought the size 58 since it fits us all, me and them. For them it's on the brink of being too large, for me on the brink of being too small, but nevertheless good for all. It's not my primary bike but rather, my bike to do errands around P

[RBW] Re: Betty Foy questions

2011-01-28 Thread MobileBill
Jeremy Anxiously awaiting delivery of my wife's Betty,and I have had a similar question about Hetres. Never got an unambiguous answer, but did discover that Renaissance apparently fitted a Betty with Hetres, though there was some question about fender fit. I'm playing it by ear _ ordered the Fa

Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 18:05 -0500, robert zeidler wrote: > I'm not saying we have to be "green", but every product has to be > shipped by plane, boat or something equally inefficient from a long > way away. You'll have to ride it every day, a long way to offset > that. The wages are paid to someo

Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-28 Thread robert zeidler
I'm not saying we have to be "green", but every product has to be shipped by plane, boat or something equally inefficient from a long way away. You'll have to ride it every day, a long way to offset that. The wages are paid to someone who will spend that money... not here. You on the other hand

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:47 PM, EricP wrote: > At 225 pounds, and often carrying things on the bike, I find that > anything less than 35mm is just too narrow for me.  Funny, because a > few years ago when I weighed 300 pounds, a Bianchi Volpe with Vittoria > Randonneur 700x32 tires was just fine.

[RBW] Betty Foy questions

2011-01-28 Thread Jeremy Smith
Hello RBW'rs I am investigating the Betty Foy for my wife. She current has a SOMA Buena Vista, and it's ok, but too small for her. So the key questions for me: Will the 58cm Foy fit Hetres? and What's the trail on that fork? (This may be on the website, and I might have just missed it compl

[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-28 Thread JoelMatthews
> I started on Marathon ?? Plus / Supreme.. the ones with the flat protection > you could put a thumb tack in without a puncture. Two different tires. Marathon plus is the tire with the real thick inner layer: http://smtp.schwalbetires.com/bike_tires/road_tires/marathon_plus_tour It is designed

[RBW] Re: New Touring Wheelset question

2011-01-28 Thread MichaelH
For what it's worth, last season we outfitted a our touring tandem with the DaVinci V23 rim in 26" and put Marathon Racers 1.6 tires on it. The team weighs about 340 lbs( and the bike weighs about 40) and more than half our riding has been on dirt roads, no single track. Very strong rims, especial

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 inch light?

2011-01-28 Thread Brian Hanson
OK - I stopped at my LBS (Free Range Cycles - Seattle) and they had the Kojaks in 50-559, so I grabbed a pair. Next time I'm in Mpls (this summer) I'll stop in at Hiawatha and let you know how they work in the Seattle rain :) They definitely feel lighter, and it will be nice to retain the cush on

[RBW] New Touring Wheelset question

2011-01-28 Thread Gary
I'm looking to get a new touring wheelset and would like some feedback. The wheels will be 26", used fully loaded. Me 200lbs 6'4", bike fully loaded, 60% on road 40% offroad. 40 hole Phils, tires 1.75 maybe 2.0. Now the questions. 24mm or 27mm rim width and limitations for each with regard to m

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Rene Sterental
Very interesting discussion and observations. I particularly liked Jan's insights. Being down to 252 lbs (from 285 last year) I currently run the 50mm Supremes on my Atlantis with 36 spoked Dyad rims and 35mm Supremes on my Homer with 32 spoked Open Pro rims. I didn't like the feel of the 65mm BA

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread EricP
At 225 pounds, and often carrying things on the bike, I find that anything less than 35mm is just too narrow for me. Funny, because a few years ago when I weighed 300 pounds, a Bianchi Volpe with Vittoria Randonneur 700x32 tires was just fine. Can tires be too big? With my limited experience it'

[RBW] Re: Marathon Supremes

2011-01-28 Thread EricP
Strangely enough, I find about the same thing with my Sam Hillborne. The 40mm Supremes can be slow and heavy. Although not all the time. While the frame can handle them, I was a bit happier last year on Pasela 35s on my particular SH. Otherwise, I have a set of Supremes 26x2.0 on a different bike

[RBW] Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread ANDREW LETTON
I've lived in the area (Redwood Estates, at the summit of Hwy 17) for over a decade, and ridden all the roads in the area many times. Personally, I love riding both directions on Mountain Charlie, and commuted that route to Santa Cruz for years, but I admit, it's kinda' rough. As an alternativ

[RBW] Re: 700c vs. 650b, again

2011-01-28 Thread NME
Thanks, everyone, for an interesting discussion. Glad to hear from Dan that a 55 is a good fit for him with his PBH. I went ahead and ordered that size, and I'm mostly happy with the decision. For the cobblestones and sandy roads outside of Berlin, I'll try to go with some wider tires, maybe 35s

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Jan Heine
running 35-622 Vittoria Randonneur Pro's that measure > around 34 mm on my rims.  The extra width didn't give me significantly > more comfort on pavement Talking about tire size makes sense only when comparing similar casings. Given a choice between a harsh-riding 35 mm tire (like most Schwalbes)

Re: [RBW] Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread Anne Paulson
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:16 AM, franklyn wrote: > For those familiar with routes in the South (San Francisco) Bay area, > can you recommend a route from San Jose to Santa Cruz? My wife and I > are taking the train down to San Jose then riding to Santa Cruz to > stay overnight. Google suggests a

[RBW] Re: 700c vs. 650b, again

2011-01-28 Thread William
"And William - where doesn't the > Hetre fit on your AHH?" Steve, A Hetre does fit on my AHH, with massive room to spare for fenders. My photo documentation was to prove wrong the claim that an AHH can't fit Hetres. And my bike is Earl Grey's size, too (most likely..a 58). And Riv has like 8 o

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Lee
On Jan 27, 8:30 pm, Bob wrote: > Aside from Riv gatherings where riders compare tire widths, when is > bigger not better? For me, I would say when the width changes the bike's handling detrimentally. And, when increased width is accompanied by increased weight to the point where you're not happy

[RBW] Re: Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread bicitourist
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Re: [RBW] Re: 700c vs. 650b, again

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:05 -0800, William wrote: > "Personally, my next bike will be a 650B with 42mm Hetres (the AHH > can't fit Hetres, and for me personally, a 650B bike that can't fit > Hetres doesn't make sense). " > > Ahem! > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5048546786/in/set-72

[RBW] Re: 700c vs. 650b, again

2011-01-28 Thread William
"Personally, my next bike will be a 650B with 42mm Hetres (the AHH can't fit Hetres, and for me personally, a 650B bike that can't fit Hetres doesn't make sense). " Ahem! http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5048546786/in/set-72157624977899459/ On Jan 28, 2:12 am, Earl Grey wrote: > Pers

[RBW] Re: Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread franklyn
thanks to Jim and Eduardo, I am taking Amtrak to San Jose train station. If I have to go to Palo Alto I will need to take caltrain north. Eduardo, please send me the GPS file, how do I view it? (I don't have a GPS device) Franklyn On Jan 28, 10:50 am, "Jim M." wrote: > How far do you want to r

Re: [RBW] Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread Horace
My preferred route is to take the Los Gatos Creek trail up to Lexington Reservoir, take Alma Bridge Road along the east side of the reservoir, and take Old Santa Cruz highway to Summit Road, to Soquel San Jose Road, and take that down to Soquel. There is a fair amount of traffic on Soquel San Jose

[RBW] Re: Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread Jim M.
How far do you want to ride? If you get off the train in Palo Alto, you can ride up to Skyline and wind through Castle Rock, Big Basin, and Henry Cowell state parks. It's about 50 miles and should be relatively uncrowded. Lots of trees and shade, so it can get cool but quite scenic. jim m wc ca O

[RBW] Re: Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread bicitourist
I've only done old santa cruz highway, I know highway 9 can get pretty congested with cars, but I've never descended highway 9 on the back side to SC. the road are really nice, fresh tar and downhill bring a smile to my face! i'll send you my gpx file. i live in SJ and i've ridden out to captiol

[RBW] Re: 26 inch light?

2011-01-28 Thread JGS
They just feel lighter and faster to me. They have flatted 2 or 3 times which is more that the T-Servs I used to have. But I live and ride in NYC which is kind of rough on tires -- plenty of broken glass. On Jan 28, 11:38 am, Earl Grey wrote: > JGS, > > big improvement how? Fewer flats? Smoothe

[RBW] Re: Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz (Bleriot Pictures)

2011-01-28 Thread franklyn
By the way, Some pictures (the 5 most recent ones) of the Bleriot. http://www.flickr.com/photos/franklyn/sets/72157625675713501/with/5395641977/ Franklyn On Jan 28, 10:16 am, franklyn wrote: > For those familiar with routes in the South (San Francisco) Bay area, > can you recommend a route from

[RBW] Route from San Jose to Santa Cruz

2011-01-28 Thread franklyn
For those familiar with routes in the South (San Francisco) Bay area, can you recommend a route from San Jose to Santa Cruz? My wife and I are taking the train down to San Jose then riding to Santa Cruz to stay overnight. Google suggests a route that includes Los Gatos Creek Trail and kind of goes

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread MichaelH
One - I am a 200 lb rider. Two - the same dirt road isn't necessarily the same on two different days. If they have just been graded they will be soft and sandy; if they have been driven on for a while they will be pact, but might be rocky or rutted; if it's been dry and hot they will get corrugat

Re: [RBW] Re: 26 inch light?

2011-01-28 Thread Kenneth Stagg
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Jeremy Till wrote: > In fact, slick tires probably provide the most traction in wet > conditions.  Jobst on the subject: > > http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/slicks.html I won't swear to the science behind this (though it makes sense to me) but I will say that I've

[RBW] Re: 26 inch light?

2011-01-28 Thread Jeremy Till
In fact, slick tires probably provide the most traction in wet conditions. Jobst on the subject: http://sheldonbrown.com/brandt/slicks.html On Jan 27, 9:03 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > I have about 1600 miles on the Kojaks in a variety of non-winter conditions, > including hundreds

[RBW] Re: 26 inch light?

2011-01-28 Thread Roger
I still lament the late great Avocet Fasgrips. Is the Kojak the closest thing now available in 700x35? I have Marathon Supremes in 700x42 and like them very well (except they don't fit with my fenders). I imagine the Marathon Racer line is just a bit more supple, lighter and a bit less durable.

[RBW] Re: 26 inch light?

2011-01-28 Thread Earl Grey
JGS, big improvement how? Fewer flats? Smoother ride? Faster? Grippier? Longer lasting? Cheers, Gernot On Jan 27, 7:44 pm, JGS wrote: > Schwalbe marathon racer.  Big improvement for me over the pasela > > On Jan 27, 6:49 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > How do the Ultra Gatorskins roll? "T

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Bobby: I am interested in a pair of the BA Liteskin 50s myself, for the Fargo's second wheelset. I currently have the 60s (also Liteskin) on the SnoCat wheelset and, yes, they roll well but they are still hugely heavy (800 gr versus about 900 for the non Liteskin model). Before I toss 100 bills in

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
FWIW, I got 3,500 miles out of a earlier model (circa 2006-7, IIRC) 571 Conti GP, this on the rear of my Riv fixie gofast. And not a huge number of flats, either. Not as cush as the even skinnier Turbos (only 1,500 on last rear) on the other Riv, but nice enough and fast and sturdy! A 559X28 mm Tu

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I am 6'1", 230 lbs...big and heavy, ride lots of mixed terrain, and naturally gravitate to fat tires. The more I rode my Big Apple 2.35s (65mm) on paved road, however the more I began realizing their limitations for road. They're just a little too cumbersome. Unwilling to give up the blissful cush

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Esteban
I like Pasela 35s for the max in 700c, at least on road applications. That's great for mixed terrain, and already feels like it borders a wagon wheel in terms of overall diameter. That's one of the benefits of 650B for me -- go as fat as 42mm and it feels fast and fantastic. Off-road is another st

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Mike
I've tried a range of tires on my Hilsen over the past 3 years-- Paselas (32, 35), Marathons (35s, 40s, and 47s), T-Serves (35s) and Jack Browns. I really like 700x35 size tires as it seems a good size for all-round riding and a fender fits easily and offers good coverage. I do 4 brevets a year an

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Bill M.
ON the other end of the spectrum, where I live there are essentially no UNpaved roads. I'm surrounded by private famland with a good network of paved roads in between farms. It's over an hour's drive to get to any significant unpaved roads. It's also a very long way to anywhere I'd want to camp,

[RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.

2011-01-28 Thread JoelMatthews
> This is part of where I was coming from in that road maintenance can't > be done without petroleum, at least not good asphalt. And boy do we > bicyclists love a good road surface. Flat out wrong. If there were fewer vehicles, we would not need as many streets/roads and those we would have would

[RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-28 Thread MichaelH
I must say that the variety of attitudes toward products made in the USA which get expressed on this site very often leave me scratching my head. Some people who fall all over themselves praising MUSA clothes, regularly diss and compare excellent US bike products to cheaper Tiawnese. About the on

Re: [RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 05:11 -0800, MichaelH wrote: > I would second (or third) the views of Patrick and Angus. I live in a > town with no paved roads, so I do a lot of dirt road riding, and > almost every ride begins and ends with 2+ miles of dirt. However, I > have never felt the need for really

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread MichaelH
I would second (or third) the views of Patrick and Angus. I live in a town with no paved roads, so I do a lot of dirt road riding, and almost every ride begins and ends with 2+ miles of dirt. However, I have never felt the need for really big tires. The biggest I am running are 38 Avocet Cross T

Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-28 Thread zeidler . robert
How so my friend? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Angus Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:02:19 To: RBW Owners Bunch Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis I think,

[RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-28 Thread Angus
I think, Robert, that this all depends upon ones perspective. Angus On Jan 27, 1:45 pm, robert zeidler wrote: > If they are built here, they are better.  Think about everything bad > that's associated w/ a Taiwanese made product. > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Angus wrote: > > Bob, > > >

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Angus
Bob, IMHO, it appears to be the "quality" of the tire that makes things work for me. I have big "fast" tires and big "slow" tires. I get occasional flats on the faster tires both large and small. Add all the kevlar belts etc.. and I get fewer flats and a slower tire. Larger tires are more comfo

[RBW] Re: 700c vs. 650b, again

2011-01-28 Thread Earl Grey
Personally, my next bike will be a 650B with 42mm Hetres (the AHH can't fit Hetres, and for me personally, a 650B bike that can't fit Hetres doesn't make sense). Living in Asia, I chose the 56cm Hillborne over the 52 partly because it has 700C wheels. But the only 700C rims available here in Thail

Re: [RBW] When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I think the choice depends a great deal on what you personally want from a tire, since any tire is a tradeoff. If you want to ride on firm gravel or dirt as well as pavement, then a 40 mm tire with sturdy casing may be the best. If you want to ride fast on pavement, a narrower but suppler tire may

[RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis

2011-01-28 Thread newenglandbike
On Jan 27, 11:38 pm, doug peterson wrote: > but about subtle specifics of > interest to velohistorians an bike nerds.  The question remains > unanswered.  For example, are their differences between the acclaimed > Toyo and current Waterford forks?  What about subtle bends in the > chainstay and

[RBW] Re: Riv'ish trails in Berkeley Hills/Tilden?

2011-01-28 Thread jose
Thanks Michael. That is exactly what I was looking for; I can download those routes on to my gps to have in case I get lost out there. -- J. On Jan 27, 7:55 pm, Michael Levin wrote: > Hi Jose, > > Here's a website that is used to map bike trails you > like:http://www.bikely.com/listpaths/by/woz

[RBW] Re: When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Earl Grey
I'd say when it doesn't fit under a fender, or becomes so heavy that acceleration and climbing are seriously affected. Btw, not all wide tires are low rolling resistance. I stay away from the heavy duty Marathons as they do feel a bit leaden to me and do reduce my riding enjoyment. Also, ideal tire

[RBW] When is a tire too big?

2011-01-28 Thread Bob
Much is said about Rivs taking big tires, those advanced, low rolling resistance, low pressure tires that absorb shocks, stop flats, survive long tours across the tundra, and eliminate potentially hazardous resonances in areas of lipid storage. But when do you get too much of a good thing and your