Very interesting discussion and observations. I particularly liked
Jan's insights.

Being down to 252 lbs (from 285 last year) I currently run the 50mm
Supremes on my Atlantis with 36 spoked Dyad rims and 35mm Supremes on
my Homer with 32 spoked Open Pro rims.

I didn't like the feel of the 65mm BA tires on my Bombadil and
couldn't really tell any significant difference between the 50mm BAs I
used for a while in the summer when I got the Atlantis and the 50mm
Supremes I put afterwards for their lighter weight and added
protection. I could do a side by side comparison as I have two sets of
Dyad wheels, but haven't yet.

Here is my question:
Will the width of the rim play a significant role in how a tire feels,
or for that matter, hoe the bike will feel?

I find that the Homer wheels are a bit flexy but only notice that when
climbing out of the saddle since the front tire rub the fender
somewhere. I've thought of putting the same tires on the second set of
Dyad rims but was wondering if I'm going to gain anything from the
wider rims with more spokes.

René

Sent from my iPhone 4

On Jan 28, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Jan Heine <hein...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> running 35-622 Vittoria Randonneur Pro's that measure
>> around 34 mm on my rims.  The extra width didn't give me significantly
>> more comfort on pavement
>
> Talking about tire size makes sense only when comparing similar
> casings. Given a choice between a harsh-riding 35 mm tire (like most
> Schwalbes) and a 24 mm hand-made clincher like the now-gone Challenge
> Triathlon, I'll prefer the racing tire any day. We have found that
> casing and construction have a much greater effect on comfort and
> performance than tire width. Once you compare apples to apples, the
> wider tires obviously have more air and thus can run at lower
> pressures without degrading performance or risking pinch-flats.
>
> If you live in a place with glass-smooth roads or ride on the track
> mostly, you probably get very few benefits beyond 25 or 28 mm width.
> However, there are few disadvantages until you reach about 42 mm (when
> it becomes hard to make a bike with narrow crank tread/Q factor), so
> why not go a bit wider, for the day when the road has been chipsealed
> or you go on that trail where roots have pushed up the pavement?
>
> Of course, I live in Seattle, where the roads and trails are so bumpy
> that even 32 mm tires feel awfully narrow. And then you have streetcar
> and railroad tracks. Even if you know how to bunny-hop them, it's nice
> not having to worry about them.
>
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