Re: [Pharo-users] Status of Tabular

2019-01-10 Thread H. Hirzel
Hi Sven The most recent discussion was November 2018 on Pharo-Dev ML Subject: Excel export with Tabular Repo now: https://github.com/VincentBlondeau/Tabular --Hannes On 1/10/19, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > Hi, > > What is the status of Tabular (the Excel export package) ? > There was some

Re: [Pharo-users] Dictionary and Date as keys

2018-10-17 Thread H. Hirzel
Maybe this happened with Squeak version 3.7? http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1871 --Hannes On 10/17/18, Richard O'Keefe wrote: > There is an elephant in the room. Historically and in Smalltalks such as > GNU Smalltalk, Smalltalk/X, my Smalltalk->C system, VisualAge Smalltalk, > and VisualWOrks,

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing SmaCC

2018-10-16 Thread H. Hirzel
'; >>>load: #('Tools' 'Examples' 'Examples-Extra') >>> >>> Regarding your language question, I'd suggest two things: >>> >>> - Look at StrongTalk for a way to write Smalltalk with type >>> d

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing SmaCC

2018-10-16 Thread H. Hirzel
y: 'github://SmaCCRefactoring/SmaCC'; load On 10/16/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > What about trying > > > Metacello new > baseline: 'SmaCC'; > repository: 'github://ThierryGoubier/SmaCC'; > load > > This worked in Pharo 6.1 in November 201

Re: [Pharo-users] Installing SmaCC

2018-10-16 Thread H. Hirzel
What about trying Metacello new baseline: 'SmaCC'; repository: 'github://ThierryGoubier/SmaCC'; load This worked in Pharo 6.1 in November 2017 On 10/16/18, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > thanks for the info Peter , will give it a try :) > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:35 PM PBKResear

[Pharo-users] World Cup 2018 with Glorp : SQL dump for SQLite : wc2018.sql

2018-10-11 Thread H. Hirzel
Hi Pierce In your blog entry 'World Cup 2018 with Glorp' you write about an SQL dump file wc2018.sql and mention a repo? https://github.com/openfootball/world-cup/tree/master/2018--russia seems to be a candidate, but on SQL. In which repo is it? --Hannes

Re: [Pharo-users] What is the easiest way to get SQLite3 support in Pharo7? (Ubuntu)

2018-10-11 Thread H. Hirzel
Oct 11, 2018 at 03:38:21PM +0200, H. Hirzel wrote: >> What is the easiest way to get SQLite3 support in Pharo7 (Ubuntu Linux)? > > Hi Hannes, > > Until the catalog is updated, the snippet way is as follows: > > Metacello new > repository: 'github://pharo-r

[Pharo-users] What is the easiest way to get SQLite3 support in Pharo7? (Ubuntu)

2018-10-11 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello What is the easiest way to get SQLite3 support in Pharo7 (Ubuntu Linux)? The screen shot shows catalog entries I get in Pharo 7. I do not mind if Glorp is loaded in addition. I use Ubuntu 16.04 and the catalog entry refers to Microsoft Windows. I have installed sudo apt-get install

[Pharo-users] Squeak: Compiler evaluate: '3+4' Pharo equivalent = ?

2018-10-06 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello What is the Pharo equivalent of the Squeak expression Compiler evaluate: '3+4' ? Thank you for the answer in advance --Hannes

[Pharo-users] [Jupytertalk] Where do I put the Pharo files? Permission issue.

2018-10-05 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Jesus Mari I am doing a new installation of JupyterTalk in a Pharo7 environment curl get.pharo.org/64/70+vm | bash Then installation of Jupytertalk. I get a permission error. Even if I give very liberal permissions it does not work. How are the permissions set in your installation?

Re: [Pharo-users] http://pharo.org/download | Pharo7 standalone?

2018-10-05 Thread H. Hirzel
Hi Cyril This is fine for Linux (e.g. curl get.pharo.org/64/70+vm | bash ) But I see no indication on the page http://get.pharo.org/ how this works for Microsoft Windows. --Hannes On 10/5/18, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM H. Hirzel wrote: >> >

Re: [Pharo-users] http://pharo.org/download | Pharo7 standalone?

2018-10-05 Thread H. Hirzel
i Hannes, > > It depends a bit on the platform. For linux 64 bit: > > curl get.pharo.org/64/70+vm | bash > > HTH, > Alistair > > On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 01:28, H. Hirzel wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> The Pharo download page http://pharo.org/download offe

[Pharo-users] http://pharo.org/download | Pharo7 standalone?

2018-10-04 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello The Pharo download page http://pharo.org/download offers the Pharo launcher with various images and a Pharo6.1 standalone download. I would like to have a Pharo 7 standalone installation. How do I do that? Thank you for the answer in advance Hannes

Re: [Pharo-users] Ready to use Roassal?

2018-09-08 Thread H. Hirzel
On 9/8/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > An easy to way to get it: > > It is included in the 'Moose Suite' distribution available through the > 'Pharo Launcher'. This is what you get when you go to http://pharo.org/web/download works very fine on Linux (Ubuntu 16.04 in my

Re: [Pharo-users] Ready to use Roassal?

2018-09-08 Thread H. Hirzel
An easy to way to get it: It is included in the 'Moose Suite' distribution available through the 'Pharo Launcher'. Another option is to load it through the catalog: see recent question on this list --Fri, Aug 24, 2018 Subject: Roassal installation in Pharo 6.1 through the catalog? --Hannes

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-29 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/29/18, Jesús Marí wrote: > You can display text or html using > self display openInJupyter:'*hello world in bolt*' > > or anything in a morph (a jpg, png ..a Roassal drawing). > self display openInJupyter: aMorph > > you can expecify the extent > self display openInJupyter: aMorph extent: aP

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-29 Thread H. Hirzel
-riesco.github.io/ijavascript/doc/custom.ipynb.html On 8/27/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Actually there is a probably a configuration file, but not in the > place where I checked, I assume. > > I have Ubuntu or Ubuntu based test installations in partitions > sda6,7,8,9,10. I can not recall in whi

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-29 Thread H. Hirzel
To summarize this thread: Make sure Jupyter (http://jupyter.org/) is installed properly. Then ZeroMQ will work with the Pharo Smalltalk kernel ( https://github.com/jmari/JupyterTalk) HH. On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > user25@Latitude2:~$ find . -name libzmq* > ./anaconda3/lib/pkg

Re: [Pharo-users] Dynabook and authentic learning pedagogy

2018-08-29 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/26/18, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote >> Smalltalk keeps its curse of being so concern with the future that was >> disconnected from most of the present and so, giving the majority of us >> no >> bridge between our present >> and the Dynabook vision. > > The i

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-27 Thread H. Hirzel
Actually there is a probably a configuration file, but not in the place where I checked, I assume. I have Ubuntu or Ubuntu based test installations in partitions sda6,7,8,9,10. I can not recall in which partition in actually happened. However I found out about the command [1] jupyter --path

[Pharo-users] Roassal installation in Pharo 6.1 through the catalog?

2018-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Installing Roassal in 6.1 through the catalog gives the message that it has not been tested for installation in 6.0. See screen shot. Is this the regular way to go for or is there a better installation script? Regards Hannes

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
/zeromq-4.2.5-h439df22_0/lib/libzmq.a ./anaconda3/pkgs/pyzmq-17.0.0-py36h14c3975_0/lib/python3.6/site-packages/zmq/backend/cython/libzmq.pxd user25@Latitude2:~$ On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Yes, I re-evaluated in the playground > > Metacello new > baseline: 'JupyterTalk

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-24 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > On 8/23/18, Jesús Marí wrote: >> I'll take a look to *nteract*, seems that it uses the same protocol to >> communicate with kernels. > > Good, actually my goal is to have a simple installation in a new Linux > installation, >

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
(Juyptertalk) On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: >> Thank you, Jesús Marí. I reloaded your updated JupyterTalk Pharo >> Smalltalk package which now looks for more places to find the library >> ZeroMQ. >> >> Unfortunately it still did not f

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/23/18, Jesús Marí wrote: > I'll take a look to *nteract*, seems that it uses the same protocol to > communicate with kernels. Good, actually my goal is to have a simple installation in a new Linux installation, something like a) download nteract (https://nteract.io/desktop), a 50MB executab

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Thank you, Jesús Marí. I reloaded your updated JupyterTalk Pharo > Smalltalk package which now looks for more places to find the library > ZeroMQ. > > Unfortunately it still did not find the ZeroMQ library. > > The following command shows wh

Re: [Pharo-users] Dynabook and authentic learning pedagogy

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. The reference [1] you give A. Tricot, L'innovation pédagogique, Retz, 2017 is very instructive. On 8/24/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello Hilaire > > Thank you for the short summary what authentic learning is and the > conclusions what this means for a Dynabook implementation.

Re: [Pharo-users] Dynabook and authentic learning pedagogy

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Hilaire Thank you for the short summary what authentic learning is and the conclusions what this means for a Dynabook implementation. You conclude that Dynabook's tools should support using authentic documents. I think that in practice this means that DOCX and ODT documents should be sup

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap package

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
lution. I am also looking forward to Guille's answer. Regards Hannes On 8/23/18, Alistair Grant wrote: > Hi Hannes, > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 at 17:20, H. Hirzel wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> Are there plans to do a Pharo 6.1 snap package in the upcoming >>

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
Thank you, Jesús Marí. I reloaded your updated JupyterTalk Pharo Smalltalk package which now looks for more places to find the library ZeroMQ. Unfortunately it still did not find the ZeroMQ library. The following command shows where there is a ZeroMQ library: [1] root@Latitude2:/# find / -name

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
-Libraries. > > So - what is your environment ? > > Marten > > > Am 23.08.2018 um 10:54 schrieb H. Hirzel: >> Hello >> >> I installed JupyterTalk [1]. With it comes a ZeroMQ implementation >> [2]. This was done on Ubuntu 18.04.1 (Bionic Beaver, 64bit). &

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I get ZeroMQ working?

2018-08-23 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. I assume I have to install a package on Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver. The question is which one. Note: I plan to write a comprehensive installation instruction for JuypterTalk. On 8/23/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > I installed JupyterTalk [1]. With it comes a ZeroMQ implementa

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-22 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. Probably noteworthy is that for some reason a second instance of Pharo was opened. Probably by the command jupyter notebook I could close one but after closing the other instance it was opened automatically again. On 8/22/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > The installation progressed, succ

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6 snap package

2018-08-22 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Are there plans to do a Pharo 6.1 snap package in the upcoming months? (Ubuntu 18.04.1) --Hannes On 6/13/17, p...@highoctane.be wrote: > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Alistair Grant > wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:25:15AM +0200, p...@highoctane.be wrote: >> > I need to upgr

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-22 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/22/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello again, Jesús Marí > > On 8/18/18, Jesús Marí wrote: >> I have experience in other kernels and if I am not wrong there aren't >> any >> kernel that installs Jupyter at all. > > Actually nteract (https://nteract.io/desk

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-22 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello again, Jesús Marí On 8/18/18, Jesús Marí wrote: > I have experience in other kernels and if I am not wrong there aren't any > kernel that installs Jupyter at all. Actually nteract (https://nteract.io/desktop) contains everything in one 50MB package. Webclient and nodejs server. No Python

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-16 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Jesús Marí Your most recent note about the different groups for the Metacello command clarifies the situation. Thank you also for your two answers yesterday 15th. You asked if I installed Jupyter and and ZeroMQ in your system? The answer is no: I was assuming Jupytertalk (your Pharo Sma

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-15 Thread H. Hirzel
/desktop) client HH On 8/15/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Attachement shows the result of a successful installation into Pharo 6.1 > > > > On 8/15/18, H. Hirzel wrote: >> After loading Roassal2 through the Pharo 6.1 catalog and re-executing >> the Metacello load s

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-15 Thread H. Hirzel
Attachement shows the result of a successful installation into Pharo 6.1 On 8/15/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > After loading Roassal2 through the Pharo 6.1 catalog and re-executing > the Metacello load script > > Metacello new > baseline: 'JupyterTalk'; >

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-15 Thread H. Hirzel
estion now is: How do I start the Pharo Smalltalk Jupyter kernel? HH. On 8/15/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > On 8/15/18, Stephan Eggermont wrote: >> H. Hirzel wrote: >>> P.S. I see that the Metacello script installs a lot in one go. >>> >>> I might be easier to ide

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-15 Thread H. Hirzel
On 8/15/18, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > H. Hirzel wrote: >> P.S. I see that the Metacello script installs a lot in one go. >> >> I might be easier to identify the problem if the installation can be >> done in steps, i.e. several load scripts in sequence. > > You

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-14 Thread H. Hirzel
Also useful would be a catalog entry. On 8/15/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > P.S. I see that the Metacello script installs a lot in one go. > > I might be easier to identify the problem if the installation can be > done in steps, i.e. several load scripts in sequence. > > On 8/15/18

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-14 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. I see that the Metacello script installs a lot in one go. I might be easier to identify the problem if the installation can be done in steps, i.e. several load scripts in sequence. On 8/15/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello Jesús Marí and others > > Thank you for the updated Metacel

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-07 Thread H. Hirzel
Jupyter notebooks are not limited to Python, there are more than 40 https://github.com/jupyter/jupyter/wiki/Jupyter-kernels Pharo Smalltalk is one of them https://github.com/jmari/JupyterTalk I'd like to get it up and running On 8/7/18, Andrew Glynn wrote: > Grafoscopio exists due to vario

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-06 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. Some notes and links how Jupyter notebooks relate to the Dynabook idea here http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/1318 My aim is to use nteract as client (https://nteract.io/ ) together with a Pharo based Smalltalk "kernel" (i.e. server acting as the "scripting engine") On 8/7/

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-06 Thread H. Hirzel
Thank you, Evan, for an alternative load script. Unfortunately it gives the same error message. I use a recent, pristine Pharo 6.1 installation on a 64bit Ubuntu based Linux. On 8/4/18, Evan Donahue wrote: > Try: > > Metacello new > githubUser: 'jmari' project: 'JupyterTalk' commitish

Re: [Pharo-users] Jupyter notebooks / Dynabook / JupyterTalk

2018-08-04 Thread H. Hirzel
ari/JupyterTalk'; load:'all' gives an error message 'Could not resolve: BaselineOfJupyterTalk' Is there something else which needs to be installed first? --Hannes On 7/28/18, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 11:21 AM H. Hirzel wrote: > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Interesting Pharo Launcher feedback

2018-06-26 Thread H. Hirzel
On 6/26/18, Tim Mackinnon wrote: > As I mentioned - the user in question was quite complimentary, just confused > on first launch. > > Equally we don’t want to impact power users, and ultimately we want to > encourage everyone to try newer images to help with improvements. > > I honestly think tha

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] GNU Dr. Geo release 18.06

2018-06-25 Thread H. Hirzel
On 6/23/18, Hilaire wrote: > As a matter of accuracy, it is more active essays paradigm[1]. > > Hilaire > > [1] http://www.vpri.org/pdf/tr2009002_active_essays.pdf A good report by now 9 years old worth to be read again. Maybe some discussion could be about this article and the way forward

Re: [Pharo-users] [Dynabook][Morphic][TLM][Geometry] Re: [ANN] GNU Dr. Geo release 18.06

2018-06-25 Thread H. Hirzel
P.S. This message was meant to be off-list. But as it went out to the list unintentionally there will be some small discussion participation from my side in case there is one :-) On 6/26/18, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hi Hilaire > > > This message is off-list as I do not have the capa

[Pharo-users] [Dynabook][Morphic][TLM][Geometry] Re: [ANN] GNU Dr. Geo release 18.06

2018-06-25 Thread H. Hirzel
Hi Hilaire This message is off-list as I do not have the capacity NOW to maintain a conversation on this list. See my comments below On 6/23/18, Hilaire wrote: > Hi Ben, > > They call it Dynabook in the old time... Not yet there 40 years later, > we are damn slow. Yes indeed. Actually on the

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

2018-05-09 Thread H. Hirzel
On 5/9/18, Trygve Reenskaug wrote: > Of course not. But one of my goals is that future dynabooks will be > backwards compatible. Recent discussions have shown me that this goal is > a research project. > --Trygve Indeed [1]. And a very interesting one! Found and read your overview http://folk.ui

Re: [Pharo-users] customizing red screen of death

2018-05-08 Thread H. Hirzel
>From and end user perspective the icon is nicer. From a developer perspective it is better to see the code. --Hannes On 5/8/18, Peter Uhnák wrote: > Hi, > > has anyone played around with customizing the red screen of death > (=morphic/athens drawing error)? > > > > > Perhaps to show something s

[Pharo-users] What is Reef? (was: Tide/Amber)

2018-03-15 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Esteban Which problem does Reef solve? Regards Hannes On 3/15/18, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Other reason why no one is using it (Tide / Amber) is, probably, because > nobody knows is > there: things that are not marketed/exposed/explained are ultimately lost > (it happened also wi

Re: [Pharo-users] [system update problem]

2018-03-12 Thread H. Hirzel
On 3/12/18, Baveco, Hans wrote: > Hi, > I consistently have problems doing the software update, under the System > item in the World menu. > Get stuck in "Fetching BaselineOfIceberg", when according to the debugger a > ZnClient is trying to connect to url > "https://github.com:443/pharo-vcs/iceber

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I ask the FileSystem to resolve a relative path?

2018-03-11 Thread H. Hirzel
:39, john pfersich wrote: >> >> or try >> >> dir := (FileSystem workingDirectory / '..' / 'public' / 'testing' / >> 'test2.txt') ensureCreateFile. >> dir writeStream. > > Indeed! > >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2018

[Pharo-users] How do I ask the FileSystem to resolve a relative path?

2018-03-11 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello This is a follow up question to 'How do I make sure a directory exists?' The answer to that question was dir := FileSystem workingDirectory / '..' / 'public'. dir ensureCreateDirectory. Now I want to create a writeStream. dir writeStream gives 'Unable to open file'

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I make sure a directory exists?

2018-03-10 Thread H. Hirzel
ingDirectory should be based on where Pharow > as launched from, if you are looking for the image directory, then use the > following > > FileLocator imageDirectory asFileReference > > Cheers, > Peter > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 9:35 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: > >>

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I make sure a directory exists?

2018-03-10 Thread H. Hirzel
rectory does not work as FileSystem disk workingDirectory / '../public' is an instance of ByteStream. Seemingly there is no conversion to a directory object. I wonder what is needed in addition? On 3/10/18, Cyril Ferlicot wrote: > On sam. 10 mars 2018 at 21:02, H. Hirzel wro

[Pharo-users] How do I make sure a directory exists?

2018-03-10 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello In Squeak and the dialect independent FileMan [1] there is FileDirectory assureExistence "Make sure the current directory exists. If necessary, create all parts in between" What is the equivalent Pharo method? BTW is there a cheat sheet for FileSystem operations in

Re: [Pharo-users] Simplest 'REPL'

2017-12-09 Thread H. Hirzel
I understand that you want to write a tool with an input field and an output field and a button 'Evaluate'. Is this correct? If yes you need to learn a little bit of Spec to construct your own tool. Have a look at the examples for Spec in the help system. There is also a booklet about Spec. ht

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel transfer from Pharo 1.4 to Pharo 6.1

2017-11-28 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Andreas Unfortunately Fuel is not meant for this kind of use case of migrating an object model. So other options have to be considered. Does your object model have cycles? Regards Hannes On 11/28/17, Andreas Brodbeck wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a long running Seaside/Pharo application w

Re: [Pharo-users] Short report about Pharo experience

2017-11-23 Thread H. Hirzel
On 11/23/17, Hans wrote: > Hi Stef, > > my post is intended as feedback. Action is a different thing. Feedback may > help to indentify useful actions. In this sense, I thought feed back is > help, too. May be I'm wrong. > > If you thing feed back is useless and without value, and only "action" > c

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-11 Thread H. Hirzel
On 11/11/17, stephan wrote: > On 10-11-17 12:23, Cédrick Béler wrote: >> Plus I have the impression Morphic mess is about to be solved. > > There is still an awful lot of essential complexity in beautiful > graphics and typography that is not going away. Microsoft Word still > cannot layout a para

Re: [Pharo-users] Unable to load SmaCC on pharo6 (or pharo5)

2017-11-10 Thread H. Hirzel
On 11/9/17, Federico.Balaguer wrote: > I would like to check if I need to use SmaCC for a project. I tried to > install it on Pharo 6.1 32bits with iceberg but I was not able to do it. > > Then I tried to get SmaCC on an Pharo5 I just loaded SmaCC into a Pharo 5 - 32bit image. It worked fine. Ma

Re: [Pharo-users] About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...

2017-11-10 Thread H. Hirzel
like. Please note the embedded picture. We continued working on it since then and we will probably announce the next version this weekend: Maybe there is now enough progress to do simple presentations in Bloc? On 11/10/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > In the thread 'including P

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing "powerpoint" like presentations in Pharo?

2017-11-10 Thread H. Hirzel
On 11/3/17, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > On 03/11/17 12:33, Tim Mackinnon wrote: >> Cool - great minds think alike ;) > > :) > >> In your photo - there is keynote, are you creating there and then >> rendering in Pharo - or are you exporting to keynote to had out >> afterwards? > > That was the first

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-10 Thread H. Hirzel
Maybe in a different thread... On 11/10/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > On 11/10/17, Hilaire wrote: >> A cleaner Pharo will help there. >> >> To be frank, I found later Pharo releases not inspiring. Bigger, bigger >> and bigger with added code, protocol changes, and bugs at

Re: [Pharo-users] I18n in pharo

2017-11-10 Thread H. Hirzel
On 11/10/17, Hilaire wrote: > A cleaner Pharo will help there. > > To be frank, I found later Pharo releases not inspiring. Bigger, bigger > and bigger with added code, protocol changes, and bugs at will. It is > becoming too complicated for a hobby use of it. > > I decided I will not finish porti

[Pharo-users] About implementing a "Mini Pillar" in-image renderer for Pharo ...

2017-11-10 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello In the thread 'including Pillar in Pharo image by default' it was suggested by Stephane Ducasse to include a subset of Pillar in the Pharo image[1] . I'd like to extend that proposal a little bit it in order to do very simple presentations. This should allow to describe at least part of th

Re: [Pharo-users] including Pillar in Pharo image by default

2017-11-10 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Peter Uhnak summarized this thread about what what to include of Pillar in the base image on Aug 17, 2017 ([1] original question, [2] summary). The issue of having a "Mini pillar" in the image was brought up by Stephan Ducasse and summarized by Cyril Ferlicot. I will start a new thread w

Re: [Pharo-users] Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk

2017-10-16 Thread H. Hirzel
LaF = Look and Feel. If you look at recent versions LaF of Squeak has improved as well. In fact considerably compared to 3.8/3.9 where Pharo branched off. On 10/16/17, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Hi, > > > On 13/10/17 19:39, Andrew Glynn wrote: >> Pharo is a great OSS Smalltalk, IMHO

Re: [Pharo-users] "Building-With versus Building-on"

2017-10-14 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Serge https://ummisco.github.io/kendrick/ https://github.com/UMMISCO/kendrick :-) Maybe you can refer to a report how it was used? --Hannes On 10/14/17, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 11:50 AM, H. Hirzel > wrote: > >> On 10/12/17, Andrew Glynn wr

Re: [Pharo-users] "Building-With versus Building-on"

2017-10-14 Thread H. Hirzel
On 10/12/17, Andrew Glynn wrote: > https://medium.com/@dasein42/building-with-versus-building-on-c51aa3034 > c71 > This is an article not specifically about Pharo, rather on the state of > the industry > in general and how it got that way, but positing Pharo as a way to > learn > building-on rathe

Re: [Pharo-users] Pillar (was Re: Behold Pharo: The Modern Smalltalk)

2017-10-13 Thread H. Hirzel
Interoperability with pandoc is desirable Some people want MSWord documents and they provide input in the form of MSWord documents. Or LibreOffice ODT. pandoc handles that well for a subset of MSWord options. pandoc allows you as well to write a custom output format -- in this case Pillar. E.g.

Re: [Pharo-users] Brea wiki software

2017-10-05 Thread H. Hirzel
are more elaborate version. Seaside is well documented. Regards Hannes On 9/6/17, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > Hi, > > > On 06/09/17 02:12, H. Hirzel wrote: >> So at the moment I am fine to get it up and running using a FossilRepo. >> Later on I will work on

Re: [Pharo-users] why are Help topics in the meta-side

2017-10-03 Thread H. Hirzel
In the end it is probably a matter of conventions. Instruction how to construct something (e.g. Spec) / configuration information / descriptions / help information / examples are kept on the class side. HH On 10/3/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > The information for a help topic on the class side

Re: [Pharo-users] why are Help topics in the meta-side

2017-10-03 Thread H. Hirzel
ect as well. Good to keep information for cases where I do not care to have different instances with different state. HTH Hannes On 10/3/17, Peter Uhnák wrote: > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 2:17 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: > >> This is as if you would ask >> >> why are specs on the

Re: [Pharo-users] How to make pharo find sqlite?

2017-09-28 Thread H. Hirzel
Try it with sqlite3-dev installed in addition --Hannes On 9/28/17, Herby Vojčík wrote: > Hello! > > I try to deploy UDBCSQLite-using image in a 32bit ubuntu 16.04.3. > > I do have libsqlite3: > > root@32bit-agent:~# find / -name '*libsqlite*' -type f 2>>/dev/null > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread H. Hirzel
ings on my todo list. No problem if the tutorial is included in the framework. I just need to know. Where is the repository of QCMagritte? >> On 22 Sep 2017, at 12:55, H. Hirzel wrote: >> >> On 9/18/17, laurent > <mailto:laurent.laff...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>&g

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread H. Hirzel
On 9/18/17, laurent wrote: > Hi all, > > it's been a long time :) At work we are currently comparing several > technologies to start a business project that will hopefully be used by > thousands of people for several years ;) > > We need a web stack and we put Pharo & co in the comparative process

Re: [Pharo-users] Web stack practices (Glorp / QCMagritte)

2017-09-22 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Diego What does QC in QCMagritte stand for? I understand that QCMagritte is an application framework on top of Seaside and Magritte. I found this presentation https://www.slideshare.net/esug/getting-started-with-qcmagritte Is there a home page with more information? Regards Hannes

Re: [Pharo-users] New chapter for coming book: Messages

2017-09-16 Thread H. Hirzel
well. Do you have an outline / draft for that? --Hannes On 9/11/17, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > tx for the feedback! > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:18 PM, H. Hirzel wrote: >> Hello Stephane >> >> I like the emphasis of the chapter that implementing same selector

Re: [Pharo-users] Who is maintaining of Artefact?

2017-09-12 Thread H. Hirzel
Looks like a worthwhile exercise PDFTalk https://wiki.pdftalk.de/doku.php "The syntax is covered comprehensively, which means that any PDF file can be read and any PDF object can be written in a conforming way. Typical PDF objects are dictionaries of which many are specialized as Smalltalk objec

Re: [Pharo-users] Object>>#name deprecated in Pharo 6 -- what do I need to do?

2017-09-11 Thread H. Hirzel
... is PPCMNode>>#gtTreeViewIn: > > you own application method? So where it sends #name, instead send > #printString (or #asString). > > > > Alternatively, #name is being sent to some domain object that doesn't > implement #name, so it falls back to the sup

Re: [Pharo-users] Standalone HTML Model

2017-09-11 Thread H. Hirzel
Interestingly the Seaside team has realized this as well https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/issues/976 On 9/11/17, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > Hi Pierce Ng > > How different is the API from Seaside? > Because I would like to use it. > I like to think modularly :) > > Stef > > On Mon, Sep 11

Re: [Pharo-users] New chapter for coming book: Messages

2017-09-11 Thread H. Hirzel
Hello Stephane I like the emphasis of the chapter that implementing same selector several times at the proper place in a couple of classes is more important than to rely on inheritance. In particular the conclusion What is important to realise is that classes are cheap. It is better to write 5

Re: [Pharo-users] PlotMorph on Pharo 6.1

2017-09-11 Thread H. Hirzel
ck of validation of published > packages. This is years that I'm saying that I need someone to work on > that. > We got money from inria for Pavel to work on it but the bootstrap was > more important :). > > Stef > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 5:05 AM, H. Hirzel wrote: >>

Re: [Pharo-users] PlotMorph on Pharo 6.1

2017-09-10 Thread H. Hirzel
Mark, Open a Transcript window before loading PlotMorph. Which error message do you get there? --Hannes On 9/10/17, Mark Bestley wrote: > > I downloaded 64bit Pharo from > > > Started it and first thing opend Catalog Browser. > I searched fo

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 Generating Ruby-on-Rails Applications

2017-09-09 Thread H. Hirzel
Maybe I should note that a Magritte is surely useful for ideas. But a solution not using the Magritte modeling approach might be better for the task of actually generating applications for different systems / language environments. Magritte is foremost about modelling domain objects to be used _wi

Re: [Pharo-users] Standalone HTML Model

2017-09-09 Thread H. Hirzel
Sean, the question is of course - is it the HTML only model you are interested in or is it rather a 'web document model' (i.e. something which is displayed in a browser) thus including HTML and CSS. --HH. On 9/9/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > On 9/9/17, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Standalone HTML Model

2017-09-09 Thread H. Hirzel
On 9/9/17, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > I'd like to create HTML via a DSL, like Seaside's canvas builder, but > without > loading a whole web framework. Any ideas? > Hello Sean 1. One idea is _not_ to go for a HTML builder DSL but for a document model plus a generator. The generator is a visitor f

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 Generating Ruby-on-Rails Applications

2017-09-07 Thread H. Hirzel
OK, RailsExpress Rails Express is Peter Fisk's attempt to make web development both easy and enjoyable. It feels like Smalltalk, but it is built 100% in Ruby-on-Rails. So it is NOT about the Pharo 6.0 Generator; did not find the source code yet On 9/7/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > @

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 Generating Ruby-on-Rails Applications

2017-09-07 Thread H. Hirzel
@Dimitris And actually probably the most interesting link http://railsexpress.com/ On 9/7/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Dimitris, > > more info for the wiki here > > https://railsexpress.quora.com/ and > > https://github.com/pdfisk/rails-express > > HH. >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 Generating Ruby-on-Rails Applications

2017-09-07 Thread H. Hirzel
Dimitris, more info for the wiki here https://railsexpress.quora.com/ and https://github.com/pdfisk/rails-express HH. On 9/7/17, Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Well done ! :) > > I added your answer to Pharo Wiki "How to" section > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/blob/master/wiki/

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 Generating Ruby-on-Rails Applications

2017-09-07 Thread H. Hirzel
open source generators --Hannes On 9/2/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > Hello Brad > > In this context it is probably useful to (re-)read the thesis by Lukas > Rengli > > http://scg.unibe.ch/archive/masters/Reng06a.pdf > > > As a complete example of how we applied a meta

Re: [Pharo-users] Brea wiki software

2017-09-06 Thread H. Hirzel
So at the moment I am fine to get it up and running using a FossilRepo. Later on I will work on replacing it with a JSON data store. On 9/6/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > I understand that it makes a lot of sense to reuse the functions > implemented in the FossilRepo. > > Installation o

Re: [Pharo-users] Brea wiki software

2017-09-06 Thread H. Hirzel
repository. It is possible for an artifact to be both a structure artifact and a content artifact, though this is rare. Artifacts can be text or binary. https://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/fileformat.wiki On 9/6/17, H. Hirzel wrote: > What I wanted to write is that the class FossilRepo

Re: [Pharo-users] Brea wiki software

2017-09-05 Thread H. Hirzel
What I wanted to write is that the class FossilRepo is not included. And that the setup of the Teapot server should not be hidden in lazy initialisation method but made explicit with some methods in a method category called 'setup' or 'configuration'. HH On 9/6/17, H. Hirzel

Re: [Pharo-users] Brea wiki software

2017-09-05 Thread H. Hirzel
g is that the port number which is currently in BreaWebsite>>server server ^ server ifNil: [ server := Teapot configure: { #port ->8500 . #debugMode -> true } ] should be at a more prominent place so that it is easier to find and thus configure. Kind regards Hannes > Chee

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