Re: automatic / intelligent fiber optic patch panel (iow SDN @ layer 0)

2014-12-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/10/14 4:33 PM, Phil Bedard wrote: > Curious what the use case is where a photonic or L1 switch wouldn't get > the job done? > > With the robotic system you still need to wire everything up so it's > available to be xconnected. We've done electromechanical cross connect termination befo

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/10/14 7:45 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Yucong Sun wrote: > >> It is not the same thing though. In my case, they just say we want >> you to >> buy our IP, if you don't and want use you own Arin allocated IP blocks >> through bgp, then we got to charge you anyway! > > A

Re: Charging fee for BGP prefix per /24?!

2014-12-11 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/11/14 1:14 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> On Dec 10, 2014, at 23:11 , joel jaeggli wrote: >> >> On 12/10/14 7:45 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: >>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Yucong Sun wrote: >>> >>>> It is not the same thing though. In my case, they

Looking for a contact at Magix as9506 or someone at singtel who has insight into the operation of 9506

2014-12-17 Thread joel jaeggli
We're have a little bit of trouble reaching your customers with a prefix advertised in SIN and there's little or no visibility from the 9506 vantage point. Thanks in Advance. Joel (as54113) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: North Korean internet goes dark (yes, they had one)

2014-12-23 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/23/14 12:40 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> I was hoping that everyone just put 175.45.176.0/22 in their bogon list. > why? is it something despicable such as the dee cee propaganda engine? Because poorly targeted prefix filtering works so well for spam and ddos... except that it doesn't. > randy >

Re: MPLS VPN design - RR in forwarding path?

2014-12-31 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/31/14 4:08 AM, Marcin Kurek wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm reading Randy's Zhang BGP Design and Implementation and I found > following guidelines about designing RR-based MPLS VPN architecture: > - Partition RRs > - Move RRs out of the forwarding path I'd find it odd if the RR were the nexthop

Re: something strange about bgp community

2015-01-07 Thread joel jaeggli
2914:429 is ntt's do not advertise to any peer community bgp communities are transitive attributes, e.g. you can just pass them to peers unmolested. so someone that's presumably not ntt ( e.g. the neighbor is digital ocean) is sending that commmunity to route views as part of their export. Their

Re: whois server features

2015-01-07 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/7/15 12:48 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 07/01/2015 20:07, Bill Woodcock wrote: >> Correct. It gets you a blob of text. Sometimes, a blob is just a blob. >> Other times, it contains what _appear_ to be key-value pairs, but are >> instead loosely-formatted text. Other times, it contains >> t

Re: scaling linux-based router hardware recommendations

2015-01-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/26/15 5:43 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Aren't most of the new whitebox\open source platforms based on > switching and not routing? I'd assume that the "cloud-scale" data > centers deploying this stuff still have more traditional big iron at > their cores. A L3 ethernet switch and a "router" are

Re: look for BGP routes containing local AS#

2015-01-28 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/27/15 5:45 AM, Song Li wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Recently I studied the BGP AS path looping problem, and found that in > most cases, the received BGP routes containing local AS# are suspicious. > However, we checked our BGP routing table (AS23910,CERNET2) on juniper > router(show route hidden

Re: look for BGP routes containing local AS#

2015-01-28 Thread joel jaeggli
path-regex .*.*" on > Juniper to check them. We are looking for those routes. If you can run > the command on your Juniper and find such routes, could you please > provider them for us? > > Thanks! > > Regards! > > Song > > 在 2015/1/28 16:23, joel jaeggli 写道:

Re: Now that's an odd failure mode...

2015-01-30 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/30/15 9:37 PM, Chris Adams wrote: >> Don't squirrels go back to their stash? Could a squirrel get through that >> hole, or were those just a lost stash? > > Eh, if the number of small oak trees I find sprouting in my flower beds > is any indication, the squirrels' brains are smaller than the

Re: IPv6 allocation plan, security, and 6-to-4 conversion

2015-01-31 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/30/15 8:29 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > On Fri, 30 Jan 2015, Eric Louie wrote: > >> It also sounds like the Internet (aka the upstream/Tier 1 carriers) don't >> want me to advertise anything longer than my /32 into BGPv6. Is that >> true? >> (I'm getting that from the spamming comments ma

Looking for a FreeDSL / free.fr dns

2015-02-02 Thread joel jaeggli
Hello folks, We (Fastly) are seeing some funny performance issues with the recursive resolvers inside Free from the vantage point of our customers and atlas probes embedded in the network. I'd love to talk to somebody with the ability to look, about what's going on. Thanks joel signature.asc D

Re: IP's with jitter/packet loss and very far away

2015-09-18 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/18/15 9:04 AM, Chuck Church wrote: > Any hotel wi-fi around 7PM local time. > > Chuck > > > On Sep 18, 2015, at 10:42 AM, Dovid Bender > mailto:do...@telecurve.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am working on a presentation and looking to create samples of what a trace > should not look like? A

Re: Verizon Wireless LTE/4G and SIP Header Manipulation

2015-09-22 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/22/15 9:03 AM, Mark Stevens wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone seen that something (most likely an alg) on Verizon's LTE/4G > network is rewriting SIP headers,in particular From Tag identifiers? We > cannot make a SIP call from our cellphones (using cellular data) beyond > 30 seconds because the

Re: Bandwidth estimation question

2015-10-03 Thread joel jaeggli
On 10/3/15 6:04 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 20:04:50 -0700, JoeSox said: > >> Does anyone know how much traffic a 'media blitz' (for lack of a better >> word) generates? Disclaimer I work for a CDN of but I'm a former consumer of such services as well. if you have re

Re: RIPE atlas probes

2015-10-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 10/6/15 12:20 PM, Weir, Colin wrote: > 3549 > > LVLT-3549 - Level 3 Communications, Inc. 3549 and 3356 probes should have largely the same vantage point since the former remains as a thin veneer on the latter. > > > > -- > Colin Weir > Engineer, Quality of Experience, Comcast Cabl

Re: /27 the new /24

2015-10-12 Thread joel jaeggli
On 10/12/15 1:57 AM, Henrik Thostrup Jensen wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2015, Jeremy Austin wrote: > >> Juneau, I'm not so surprised; how many other cities that small and >> isolated >> have IXes? I'm curious. It's an interesting prospect, at least for some >> value of $location. > > Several small cit

Re: sfp "computer"?

2015-10-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 10/15/15 8:23 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > Hi, > > The problem with that is the lack of power options. I got -48V DC. And no > USB port to power any devices. step it down (buck converter) to 5v and use a raspberry pi http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/sense_power/FM142/CL1456/SC355/PF63205 > R

Fw: new message

2015-10-25 Thread joel jaeggli
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Re: CIDR Utilization

2015-10-30 Thread joel jaeggli
most reasonable ipam tools will track or express unallocated vs allocated space. netdot has a lovely address-space container/block view for managing free vs allocated space joel On 10/31/15 9:51 AM, John Steve Nash wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for any tool or a way I could specify a CIDR and th

Re: century link ipv6

2015-11-07 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/7/15 6:33 PM, samaul carman wrote: > Hello I am writing to y'all in regards to based on my understanding that > does not happen on a ipv6 dsl network however I may be wrong about that I am > still learning about ipv6 in my college courses however I have been noticing > that these only occur

Re: Project Fi and the Great Firewall

2015-11-14 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 14, 2015, at 18:00, Sean Hunter wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I come to you to humbly request your assistance, on or off list. This not > an urgent technical matter, but something I'm rather fascinated by at the > moment. > > While in China recently, I noticed t

Re: Binge On! - And So This is Net Neutrality?

2015-11-21 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/20/15 3:35 PM, Steve Mikulasik wrote: > Requiring streaming companies not to use UDP is pretty absurd. Surely > they must be able to identify streaming traffic without needing TCP. One presumes that they've gotten rather good at looking at HLS or MPEG-DASH and triggering rate adaption where

Re: IPv6 Cogent vs Hurricane Electric

2015-12-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/5/15 9:37 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> On Dec 4, 2015, at 17:43 , Randy Bush wrote: >> >>> Or, if you feel that Cogent's stubborn insistence on partitioning the >>> global v6 internet >> >> if A does not peer with B, >> then for all A and B >> they are evil partitioners? >> >> can we lower t

Re: Modem as a service?

2015-12-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/6/15 10:37 AM, James Laszko wrote: > We are looking to automate testing of OOB modem connections when our > NMS detects a site connection failure. Rather than have a live body > call a modem number (or even a fax) to see if it answers (to > determine if there is a potential site power issue)

Re: Is RouteViews dead? Is there any alternatives?

2015-12-08 Thread joel jaeggli
Hi, I'm still on the h...@routeviews.org alias. I haven't seen any mail from Kurt Kraut. so I would suspect that something is being filtered someplace. perhaps we can interceed to identify that issue. thanks joel On 12/8/15 8:24 AM, Kurt Kraut via NANOG wrote: > Hi, > > > For the past coup

Re: CDN

2015-12-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/19/15 8:16 AM, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > I don’t think anyone really would tell where their critical network assets > are but obviously you can guesstimate by looking where they have connection > points available. in general people who want to serve bits to your customers are going to be a lit

Re: de-peering for security sake

2015-12-24 Thread Joel Jaeggli
While you have a great deal of control over what prefixes you choose to accept... You have very little control over your advertised prefixes once they exit your ASN. Maybe your transits offer communities to control their peer advertisements. In general assuming you're paying for the Internet con

Re: Inferring the location points of traffic exchange between two networks

2016-01-13 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/13/16 9:36 AM, Reza Motamedi wrote: > Hi NANOG, > > I am researcher at the University of Oregon and my question is rather > primitive. My research background is in networked systems and Internet > measurement so I know how things work in theory. > > My question is about BGP and what can be i

Re: Inferring the location points of traffic exchange between two networks

2016-01-13 Thread joel jaeggli
m 0 0 > 569704 0 > > tells me that 513 is peering with 20965 that city, right? > > Best Regards > Reza Motamedi (R.M) > Graduate Research Fellow > Oregon Network Research Group > Computer and Information Science > University of Orego

Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it

2016-01-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/25/16 11:06 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > My understanding is this was mostly legacy from devices that did not > carry full Rib and fib. There were tricks to avoid ending up on these > skinny devices if you wanted. > > Life in the core has changed a lot in recent years from 6500/7600 and > foundry

Re: Equipment Supporting 2.5gbps and 5gbps

2016-01-28 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/28/16 10:29 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > > I'd love to know what model Juniper you are getting for $102 per > 10GbE port and where you are getting it. The lowest-end 10GbE switch > is the EX4600, which lists at more like $850 per port. You can get > higher-end ones with much larger port count

Re: Dear Windstream engineers

2016-01-31 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/30/16 2:29 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman wrote: > You offer this service to your customers, don’t you? ;-) source based RTBH requires urpf, which while generally available may have practical limitations on implementation. > Seriously, it’s a good question. Most IP transit providers offering BGP

Re: Sprint Wireless DNS server not resolving ietf.org

2016-02-27 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2/26/16 5:42 PM, Yang Yu wrote: > ietf.org and its subdomains such as tools.ietf.org are not accessible > on Sprint 3G/LTE (DNS timeout). From what I gathered this is affecting > Sprint wireless customers nationwide. I created a DNS measurement on > ripe atlas and no signs of other carriers expe

Re: remote serial console (IP to Serial)

2016-03-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/8/16 10:06 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > On 03/08/2016 07:30 AM, greg whynott wrote: >> I'd like to purchase a IP to >> Serial port device I can use for each location in the event I lock myself >> out. The requirement would be an Ethernet port, a serial port, and >> SSH. > > I've used C

Re: Internet Exchanges supporting jumbo frames?

2016-03-09 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/9/16 7:58 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Wed, 9 Mar 2016, Nick Hilliard wrote: > >> used. Some will want 9000, some 9200, others 4470 and some people > > I have a strong opinion for jumboframes=9180bytes (IPv4/IPv6 MTU), > partly because there are two standards referencing this size (

Re: Cogent - Google - HE Fun

2016-03-13 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/13/16 7:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > In the end, google has made a choice. I think these kinds of choices will > delay IPv6 adoption. Given that they publish records for a great deal of their services I'm not sure how you would conclude that. > -Original Message- > From: Da

Re: Wireless (WiFi) MOS equivalent?

2016-03-20 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/20/16 12:34 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > I've seen some conferences do a virtual participant device that joins the > wifi and reports back data. netbeez is an example of one such device. https://netbeez.net > Jared Mauch > >> On Mar 16, 2016, at 1:54 PM, Jim Wininger wrote: >> >> Hello all,

Re: Microwave link capacity

2016-04-04 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/4/16 2:28 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > > In a context of providing rural communities with modern broadband. > > Reading some tells me that Microwave links can be raised to 1gbps. How > common is that ? for wireless backhaul of cell-towers, some wisp infrastructure and for this like inte

Re: Some doubts on large scale BGP/AS design and black hole routing risk

2016-04-05 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/4/16 10:29 AM, magicb...@hotmail.com wrote: > Hi guys > > thanks everyone for your replies. > > I'd like to highlight this concept that Christopher gave before: > > ​"different providers, different entrance facilities in the building(s), > different conduits out of the area... " > > How c

Re: Best practices for sending network maintenance notifications

2016-04-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/6/16 3:56 PM, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > All, > > We recently, at $dayjob, had one of our peers (at Symantec) send out a > network maint notification, putting 70 addresses in the "To:" field, > rather than using BCC or the exchange's mailing list. > > Naturally, when you mail 30 add

Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

2015-03-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/1/15 1:26 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> It was the combination of asymmetric, no or few IPs (and NAT), and >>> bandwidth caps. >> >> let's not rewrite history here: IPv4 address scarcity has been a thing >> since the very early 1990s. Otherwise why would cidr have been created? > > CIDR had not

Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

2015-03-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/1/15 7:24 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Scott, > > Asymmetric measured where? Between client and server or between > servers? I'm thinking the case where we each have a server running > locally - how do you get a high level of asymmetry in a P2P environment? The most densly connected relays

Re: BCOP appeals numbering scheme -- feedback requested

2015-03-12 Thread joel jaeggli
On 3/12/15 12:01 PM, Yardiel D. Fuentes wrote: > > > Hello NANOGers, > > The NANOG BCOP committee is currently considering strategies on how to best > create a numbering scheme for the BCOP appeals. As we all know, most public > technical references (IETF, etc) have numbers to clarify referen

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/1/15 3:14 AM, Piotr wrote: > Hello, > > There is some telecom, isp which have route from EU to AU via east or > south east (via Russia, Red sea or other ways) ? Now i have path via US > and looking something in opposite direction. telstra ntt reliance retn all have eastbound paths from euro

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread joel jaeggli
red path would be via > US and transpac. > > -dorian > > > > On Apr 1, 2015, at 5:51 PM, joel jaeggli <mailto:joe...@bogus.com>> wrote: > > > > On 4/1/15 3:14 AM, Piotr wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> There is

Re: Trusted Networks Initiative: DDoS fallback set of AS'es

2015-04-16 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/16/15 1:30 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 22:13:56 +0200, Job Snijders said: > >> If you don't want packets from 1312 don't announce to them? > > I'm probably at least 4-5 AS's away, and you're probably routed to us > through Cogent or similar large transit. Feel f

Re: Peering and Network Cost

2015-05-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 5/23/15 10:23 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Dave Taht" > >> Two things I am curious about are 1) What is the measured benefit of >> moving a netflix server into your local ISP network >> >> and 2) does anyone measure "cross town latency". If we lived in a >>

Re: Looking for information on IGP choices in dual-stack networks

2015-06-09 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/9/15 2:00 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Joe Abley wrote: >> >> >> On 9 Jun 2015, at 16:23, Christopher Morrow wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > If you have a production dual-stack network, then we would like to know >

Re: AS4788 Telecom Malaysia major route leak?

2015-06-13 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/13/15 3:39 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 12/Jun/15 22:25, Jürgen Jaritsch wrote: >> This is the official feedback: >> >> >> >> Level 3's network, alongside some other ISP's, experienced service >> disruptions affecting customers in Europe, Asia and multiple other markets. >> IP, Voice and

Re: Apple ECN, Bufferbloat, CoDel (fwd)

2015-06-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/15/15 6:19 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 06:20:31PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I just want to bring to your attention the below talk (I am too lazy to >> re-write the whole email for this slightly different audience). >> >> Takeaway: >> >> We'll see a l

Re: AW: Level3 routing issue US west coast

2015-07-11 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/10/15 7:54 AM, Jürgen Jaritsch wrote: > Wow Level3 responded to me that they had an issue last night but > they simply did nothing ... for at least 10 hours they did nothing to fix the > issue: It's more likely that there's a certain amount of nonsense and a lot of loose ends in

Re: Remember "Internet-In-A-Box"?

2015-07-14 Thread Joel Jaeggli
This stuff has been consumerized. If you walk into any vzw store you can for $99 and $60 a month no contract walk out with a mifi with v6. You don't even have to ask, or configure anything, pretty much as it should be, the consumer wants internet, Facebook email, and all the upper layer services

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/15/15 3:43 AM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > On 15 July 2015 at 01:34, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> For one thing a /32 is nowhere near enough for anything bigger than a >> modest ISP today. Many will need /28, /24, or even larger. The biggest ones >> probably need /16 or even /12 in some cases. >> >

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/15/15 10:24 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > Mark Andrews wrote: >> In message >> > >> We don't use Class E because were using up IPv4 space too quickly >> to make it worthwhile to make it work cleanly for everyone. > > That is a self fulfilling prophecy. > > I suspect a 16 /8 right about now

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/15/15 4:35 PM, Joe Maimon wrote: > At this point, you are running the risk of conflating your goals with > your technical objections to the goals of others. And this has always > been the real underlying issue. My goal in an operational capacity is to continue to hold onto the quality and

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-17 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/15/15 9:10 AM, John R. Levine wrote: >>> It would be nice if it were possible to implement BCP 38 in IPv6, >>> since this >>> is the reason it isn't in IPv4. >> >> There isn't any technical reason that an organization can't fix its edge >> so it doesn't urinate bad IPv6 traffic all over the In

Re: Did *bufferbloat* cause the 2010 flashcrash?

2015-08-06 Thread joel jaeggli
On 8/6/15 9:58 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:51 PM, John Kristoff wrote: >> It would seem surprising that delays in general due to long queues >> would not have been noticed before, since or would have caused other >> more far reaching problems. > > bufferbloat is the

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/10/13 6:36 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: I have a network that has three peers, two are at one site and the third is geographically diverse, and there is NO connection between the two separate networks. Currently we are announcing several /24s out one network and other /24s out the second

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/10/13 6:48 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: On 6/10/13 6:36 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: I have a network that has three peers, two are at one site and the third is geographically diverse, and there is NO connection between the two separate networks. Currently we are announcing several /24s out one

Re: huawei

2013-06-15 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/15/13 5:35 PM, Randy Bush wrote: i wonder if and how many governments are worried about when the nsa tells cisco to send the kill switch signal to their routers. Having worked for an Israel-based security vendor I'd opine: A. That many sovereign states are concerned about sourcing for reas

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-21 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/21/13 2:15 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: On 21-06-13 21:56, Michael McConnell wrote: As the IPv4 space get smaller and smaller, does anyone think we'll see a time when /25's will be accepted for global BGP prefix announcement. The current smallest size is a /24 and generally ok for most pe

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/24/13 12:55 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: - william.allen.simpson wrote: - And at $189,950 MSRP, obviously every ISP is dashing out the door for a pair for each and every long haul fiber link. ;-) It's the same as buying, say, .nanog... >;-) -

Re: Security over SONET/SDH

2013-06-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/24/13 1:19 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: joe...@bogus.com wrote: From: joel jaeggli That's why I'm trying to follow up on the original question. Is there something similar the global public can use to secure their connections that is not government designed

Re: Google's QUIC

2013-06-28 Thread joel jaeggli
On 6/28/13 2:15 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: On 06/28/2013 02:07 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Michael Thomas" My first reaction to this was why not SCTP, but apparently they think Simple Computer Telephony Protocol? Did anyone ever actually implement that? No:

Re: hotel networks, was One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/14/13 7:22 AM, John Levine wrote: I suspect the problem is the (offsite) hotel that Mark and I are at was not really prepared for a full house of folks interested in viewing streams, downloading documents, etc. (despite attempts to inform the hotel of the impending tsunami). I imagine folks

Re: Vancouver IXP - VanTX - BCNet

2013-08-21 Thread joel jaeggli
On 8/21/13 6:56 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > but how do you represent seattle colonolizing bc? "keep your potatoes out of my pig." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_War > > randy >

Re: subrate SFP?

2013-08-29 Thread joel jaeggli
On 8/29/13 6:08 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > How do people deal with situation where you need <=48 SFP/SFP+ ports, but > you occasionally need one or two cu 10/100 ports? arista 7050s support 100 Mb/s on their copper sfp I have leveraged that, if you can break out the 40Gb/s ports you have as many as 64

Re: subrate SFP?

2013-08-31 Thread Joel Jaeggli
WOL uses 100Mb/s, the phy draws less that way. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2013, at 10:13, Charles N Wyble wrote: > On hp proliant gen8 servers with management and ilo on same port, with the > server off the ports show up as 100mbps. > > Jimmy Hess wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:4

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-09 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/9/13 12:43 PM, Michael Hallgren wrote: > Le 09/09/2013 21:16, Joe Abley a écrit : >> On 2013-09-09, at 14:29, joel jaeggli wrote: >> >>> On 9/9/13 7:43 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: >>>> That notwithstanding, it's stupid to send traffic to/from o

Re: Internet Surveillance and Boomerang Routing: A Call for Canadian Network Sovereignty

2013-09-09 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/9/13 7:43 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > That notwithstanding, it's stupid to send traffic to/from one of the > large $your_region/country incumbents via $not_your_region/country. > It's just not good Internet. yyz-yvr is faster via the united states. physics doesn't respect poltical boundries.

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/19/13 3:29 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > Your software updates (you meaning a user of the Internet) should not affect > my experience. I'm not advocating we go back to 5.25 floppies and never look > back. I'm asking.. > > Is there a way for a COMPUTER and PHONE manufacturer to distribute their

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-19 Thread joel jaeggli
this, they could have been pushing unreleased software blobs for a couple weeks for example, as some steam game launches do for example. But, if you support near instantanious gratification then, when somebody asks for something, then you start fulfilling it. > Only in a perfect world thoug

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-19 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/19/13 5:54 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: > > Why do you sell services to customers using iThings if you are > incapable of supporting them? Are you sure that it is not you > yourself who have used to much "bait and switch" selling a service > you are unable to provide? What actions do you take t

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/24/13 6:47 AM, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Nathanael C. Cariaga [mailto:nccari...@stluke.com.ph] > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:50 AM > To: NANOG Mailing List > Subject: minimum IPv6 announcement size > >> Hi, >> >> Just wondering if anyone could s

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-24 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/24/13 8:10 PM, Nathanael C. Cariaga wrote: > Hi, > > I raised actually this concern during our IP resource application. > > On a personal note, I think /48 IPv6 allocation is more than enough for > our organization to use for at least the next 5-10 years assuming that > this can be farmed ou

Re: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

2013-09-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 9/25/13 5:25 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: > On 9/25/13 18:18:04, Glen Kent wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The report from renesys states that >> >> "We initially stated that Sudan’s outage began at 12:47 UTC because that >> was when virtually all Sudanese routed networks were withdrawn from the >> global routi

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: >> sounds just like folks in 1985, talking about IPv4... > > The foundation of that, though, was ignorance of address space exhaustion. > IPv4's address space was too small for su

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On Sep 26, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Darren Pilgrim wrote: > On 9/26/2013 1:07 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: >> >> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Darren Pilgrim >> wrote: >> >>> On 9/26/2013 1:52 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: >>>> so

Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

2013-09-27 Thread joel jaeggli
On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Randy Carpenter wrote: > >> There is no bit length which allocations of /20's and larger won't >> quickly exhaust. It's not about the number of bits, it's about how we >> choose to use them. >> >> Regards, >> Bill Herrin > > True, but how many orgs do we expect t

Re: Regarding source based outbound routing (with redundancy)

2013-10-05 Thread joel jaeggli
On Oct 5, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > you really don't want to do policy routing :( > PBR has this tendency to be brittle in the face of topology changes. There are much better way to outbound load-balance between providers offering same or similar quality routes to the sam

Re: Regarding source based outbound routing (with redundancy)

2013-10-05 Thread joel jaeggli
On Oct 5, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 2:08 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: >> >> On Oct 5, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Christopher Morrow >> wrote: >> >>> you really don't want to do policy routing :( >>> >>

Re: Policy-based routing is evil? Discuss.

2013-10-11 Thread joel jaeggli
On Oct 11, 2013, at 10:27 AM, William Waites wrote: > I'm having a discussion with a small network in a part of the world > where bandwidth is scarce and multiple DSL lines are often used for > upstream links. The topic is policy-based routing, which is being > described as "load balancing" wher

Re: Pad 1310nm cross-connects?

2013-10-20 Thread joel jaeggli
It's a pretty normal situation. even with a 1-2m jumper I see light levels that are well below the maximum rx levels for 10km optics. e.g. the max might be .5 and the actual readings are -1.4 - -2.7. our WDM terminals sit in the the adjacent racks to the pop routers so they're all like that.

Re: latest Snowden docs show NSA intercepts all Google and Yahoo DC-to-DC traffic

2013-11-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On Nov 1, 2013, at 7:06 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote: > That's with a recommendation of using RC4. it’s also with 1024 bit keys in the key exchange. > Head on over to the Wikipedia page for SSL/TLS and then decide if you want > rc4 to be your preference when trying to defend against a adversary wi

Re: Automatic abuse reports

2013-11-12 Thread joel jaeggli
On Nov 12, 2013, at 9:16 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote: > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:03 PM, William Herrin wrote: >>> Now it would be trivial to setup syslog and sshd to give only the sessions >>> that complete the handshake, however I'm also not sure how responsive some >>> of the abuse contact

Re: BGP neighbor/configuration testing

2013-11-20 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/20/13, 11:53 AM, Eric A Louie wrote: > Scenario: a regional ISP preparing to cutover to a new upstream BGP provider > at one of my POPs. Want minimal or no network disruption, and want to ensure > everything is ready to go prior to the cutover. > > I'm planning to use the following order

Re: NAT64 and matching identities

2013-11-22 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/22/13, 12:01 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 10:18:27 -0800, "Tony Hain" said: > >> The top 100 websites: records and IPv6 connectivity >>count with A: 98 ( 98.000%) >> count with : 30 ( 30.000%) >> Of the 30 hosts with AA

Re: CenturyLink IP NOC Contact for BGP Changes

2013-11-25 Thread joel jaeggli
On 11/25/13, 8:26 PM, Jawaid Desktop wrote: > Hello NANOGers, > > We're a regional CLEC and I've had a BGP filter change request in to > CenturyLink for 3 days. I've had no luck trying to get this processed. > > I tried calling in tonight because, you know, my expectation these days > is that eve

Re: Is there a method or tool(s) to prove network outages?

2013-12-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/1/13, 8:56 AM, Notify Me wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Please I have a very problematic radio link which goes out and back on > again every few hours. > The only way I know this is happening is from my gateway device: a Sophos > UTM that sends email anytime there's been an outage. > > The ISP ref

Re: Is there a method or tool(s) to prove network outages?

2013-12-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/1/13, 9:23 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 12:19 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: > >> Given a measurement target on the customer side and smokeping instance on >> your side you can actively measure the availability/latency/loss >> rates between them.

Re: Naive IPv6 (was AT&T UVERSE Native IPv6, a HOWTO)

2013-12-04 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/4/13, 12:58 PM, Brian Dickson wrote: > On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Brian Dickson >> wrote: >>> Except that we have a hard limit of 1M total, which after a few 100K from >> >> where does the 1M come from? >> > > FIB table

Re: turning on comcast v6

2013-12-11 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/11/13, 7:11 AM, Eric Oosting wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > >> Randy Bush wrote: >>> http://comcast6.net/ tells me that the local cmts is v6 enabled. my >>> modem, a cisco dpc3008, is in the supported products list. so how do >>> i turn the sucker on? >>> >>

Re: turning on comcast v6

2013-12-11 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/11/13, 11:46 AM, Kinkaid, Kyle wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> It doesn’t. You can get IPv6 working with off-the-shelf equipment if you >> choose to. >> >> Randy chose to use that particular hardware and software combination. > > > I'm curious, do you kn

Re: turning on comcast v6

2013-12-11 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/11/13, 7:45 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> To be clear, I wasn't accusing you of whining. And thanks for documenting >> it for the next guy. > > it just works for gals, they have all the luck and the brains > >> Stock netgear does PD and works out of the box? Didn't realize that. > > so says my

Re: EIGRP support !Cisco

2014-01-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/8/14, 10:02 AM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > > On Jan 9, 2014, at 12:52 AM, Nick Olsen wrote: > >> But this is needed to integrate into an existing network. > > Route redistribution? I've done mixed eigrp ospf environments in places where I wasn't responsible for legacy decisions... it worke

Re: 10gbps peering subscriber switch recommendation

2014-01-08 Thread joel jaeggli
On 1/8/14, 11:45 AM, excel...@gmx.com wrote: > That´s actually a topic, I was thinking ago some time ago. Why not take > a current TOR switch with 1. BGP support and 2. high buffer. Like > mentioned above we have Trident 2 bases switches. HP (no recommendation) > has its HP 5930 series but tells "R

Re: Windows Update subnets

2014-01-16 Thread joel jaeggli
I think you'll find that windows update heavily leverages 3rd party CDN providers as well as their own... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc627316.aspx On 1/16/14, 11:04 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > Does anyone have a list of all of the ranges Microsoft uses for > Windows Update? I've fou

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