On 12/11/14 1:14 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 23:11 , joel jaeggli <joe...@bogus.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 12/10/14 7:45 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Yucong Sun wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is not the same thing though. In my case, they just say we want
>>>> you to
>>>> buy our IP, if you don't and want use you own Arin allocated IP blocks
>>>> through bgp, then we got to charge you anyway!
>>> Are they charging per /24 (assuming IPv4 here...), or per prefix?
>>>
>>> If they are charging per /24, that seems like a great way to encourage
>>> customers to find another provider.
>>>
>>> If they are charging per prefix, that seems like an interesting way to
>>> encourage customers to make sure they aggregate their BGP
>>> advertisements as much as possible.
>>>
>> ISPs in my experience have a fee schedule supported by a model which
>> allows them to recover their expenses plus a nominal profit. If the
>> model doesn't work, in the long run that is a problem that solves
>> itself. At the right scale I have productive leverage against the profit
>> side of that number and also what line items the expenses are lodged
>> against. below that I'm a retail customer and I pick from the best
>> options available to me.
>>> jms
>>>
>>
> To me this sounds like they are trying to encourage their customers to accept 
> IP addresses from them in order to bolster their utilization for purposes of 
> hoarding addresses. I would expect that they will later reverse these 
> "incentives" to attempt to reclaim the space in order to avoid having to go 
> to the transfer market for more space.
>
> I would consider such behavior highly unethical at best, but my sense of 
> ethics may not be shared by all. I'm sure some of the Randians on this list 
> will tell me that this is some proper and good way for the economy to work. 
> Free market, blah blah.

I think it's a really good idea to not engage in business with people
whose behavior strikes you as bad.
>
>
> Owen
>
>


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