* Gregor Zattler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> which 7 other ml headers did you mean?
Mailing-List: list
Sender: owner-
X-BeenThere:
Delivered-To: mailing list
X-Mailing-List:
X-Loop:
X-List:
X-ML-Name:
My full lists.rc is at http://voi.aagh.net/code/lists.rc if you want a
real exam
* savanna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> A slightly offtopic question - I'm using procmail for my mail
> filtering, just wondering what people are using to catch all of the
> mutt-users email.
Nice generalised solution:
:0:
* ^Sender: owner-\/[^@]+
lists/`echo $MATCH | sed -e 's/[\/]/_/g'`
Repea
* Ken Weingold ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I think I remember a while back someone haveing a script to take lines
> randomly from a text file to put into a custom header. Does anyone
> have this?
Replace \n with \n%\n and run it through strfile. Then run fortune
over the generated data file.
* John Buttery ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Michael Tatge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-30 13:35:04 +0100]:
> >NO. It's "> " Period. Please don't make a new OT thread out of this,
> >especially you David. ;-)
^ The problem with using just '>' is that the quote string merges with
the text and be
* Cedric Duval ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> John Buttery said:
> > * "Carl B. Constantine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-03-18 08:43:58
> > -0800]:
> > > > >URL="http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/";>
> Really, is there some content that could be seen as "malicious" in
> this page?
Yes. The 0 means t
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I recently moved to maildir/Evolution, but Evolution is still somewhat
> unstable. So I finally got around to be a Mutt user. I have to say
> it's love at first sight.
>
> One thing I haven't figured out yet is how to speed up the opening
> of very
* Dominik Mierzejewski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tuesday, 05 March 2002, Thomas Hurst wrote:
> > * Christopher S. Swingley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > > And then I have recipes for my mailing lists:
> > >
> > > :0:
> > > *
* Christopher S. Swingley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> And then I have recipes for my mailing lists:
>
> :0:
> * ^Sender:\ owner-mutt-users@mutt\.org
> in-mutt-users
Pfft, you want automatic list filtering, not this one-rule-per-list crap
;)
> Sometimes the duplicates that procmail
* Adam Byrtek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:05:26AM -0600, Knute wrote:
> > I use gkrellm to show me what mailbox I have mail in. It can be set
> > up for an audible alarm as well.
>
> Me too... but it only supports single mailbox...
gkrellmmailwatch is one solution to
* Michael P. Soulier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 28/02/02 Thomas Hurst did speaketh:
>
> > I doubt I'd last long with mutt with the default keys.. > backup of ~/.src>
>
> I'd be interested in seeing the changes you made. I like the
> default keys
* Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> echo you cannot do this with netscape | mutt netscape-weenie
>
> nuff said.
But I can't view all my HTML pr0n spam without an external program, mutt
sucks111
> I have guided some Linux people to switch from Netscape to mutt. So
> far they are no
* Rob Reid ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At 2:35 PM EST on February 23 Thomas Hurst sent off:
> > Easy, just run it through something that gives more detailed errors:
> >
> > test.rb:2: invalid regular expression; there's no previous pattern,
> > to which &
* Michael Seiwert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
>
> mutt detects an error in one of the following lines but I can't find
> an error maybe you see the error.
>
> color body green black "((;|:|8\\:|\\=)(-|=|~|_|-'|%|<|)(\\)|Q|P|\\)%))"
>
> color body redblack "(*)(ACK
* Thomas Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Death, evil reverse-quoting Pine user!
> I have discussed this with my department's system support, and they
> point out it could mean alot of additional work getting my various
> hardware configurations (with docking station, without, etc) set up
> unde
* Philip Mak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program that I can set as a cron job to go
> through an mbox file, and delete all messages that are from a mailing
> list and are 21 days old?
I'm planning a generic mail archiving tool that will allow this, as
well as moving messag
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> ...and then Thomas Hurst said...
> > Gzip your message body and you'll probably find half of mutt-users
> > have it decompressed and viewed automatically :)
> > That would make tools like grep pretty useless.
>
> Well, zg
* Alexander Skwar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
So sprach »Ricardo SIGNES« am 2002-01-27 um 11:02:07 -0500 :
> > that Maildir is faster.
>
> Well, saying it so broad as you did, the only answer to this is,
> that your statement is wrong. On certain filesystems Maildir may be
> a little faster than
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Off-topic meandering:
> I think it would be lovely to automatically compress all email before
> sending and have it opened on the other end,
Gzip your message body and you'll probably find half of mutt-users have
it decompressed and viewed automatically :
* Cameron Simpson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On 09:43 26 Jan 2002, Prahlad Vaidyanathan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 Mathias Gygax spewed into the ether: Holy crap
> > !! How do you cope ? I can't even manage the 200-250 mails I get
> > everyday :-)
>
> Much as I do I gue
* Roman Neuhauser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Procmail:
> + lots of prepackaged antispam filters
SpamAssassin rules all.
> - config files resemble uuencoded assembler
They're quite easy to understand once you grasp them.
Would you prefer an XML format? :)
> - quite resource-hung
* Roman Neuhauser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> dunno about "real" csh (csh == tcsh on FreeBSD), but % is the default
> for 0http://www.aagh.net/
-
Conscience is a mother-in-law whose visit never ends.
-- H. L. Mencken
No, the most annoying way is to indent using spaces, with Outlook style
replies (i.e, 2-3 lines right at the top of the message). Nice huh? :)
Several times I've found myself reading the "quoted" text thinking it's
the actual reply and wondering why it looks so familiar..
* Brian Clark ([EMAIL
* Alexander Skwar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> With mutt, I get the same kind of results. However, other MUAs behave
> differently. For instance, when I did the testing, Evolution opened
> the same Maildir way faster than it handled the mbox file (which
> contained the same messages). mutt seem
_Replying to a message_
By: Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mutt Users' List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On: Monday, January 21, 2002, 16:54:47 -0700
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
> Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
>
> > * On 21-01-02 at 23:17 Brian Foley said
> I
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> ...and then Michael Tatge said...
>
> > Quoting tar's man page:
> >
> > -r, --append append files to the end of an archive
> >
> > Works like charm.
>
> No kidding! I've never seen one work. What version of tar are you
> running?
It should work fine pro
* Nick Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * On 21-01-02 at 14:40
> * Thomas Hurst said
>
> > Being able to skip quotes is no excuse not to trim them; not caring
> > whether people will simply ignore your message because it appears to
> > have no content isn
* Dave Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:25:56PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> > Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim quotations when replying
> > ordinarily, when replying to a blind user it becomes outright rude.
> Learn to use your screenreader better, and
* Derek D. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly:
> > our office mail machine is (unfortunately) linux with ext2, and i
> > can attest to the fact that Maildir is pretty slow on ext2.
>
> And most other filesystems... Try it on FAT. =8^)
I t
* Michael Elkins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hanspeter Roth wrote:
> > Some mailinglists prefix every subject with the name of the list.
> > Is it possible to suppress this prefix in the index_format? How? Or
> > is this a case for procmail?
>
> It's more efficient to do it with procmail since
* Igor Pruchanskiy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> # above copyright notice, this permission notice, and the following
> ^
> # disclaimer appear on all copies.
> ^^^
Hey, at least it's not t
* mike ledoux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:22:45AM +0100, René Clerc wrote:
>
> > I couldn't _disagree_ with you more. For example, C source code is
> > text to: I bet you'll want your editor to know that it's editing C
> > source code ;)
I'd perhaps disagree that it s
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Alas! Thomas Hurst spake thus:
>
> > I stole PARINIT="grTbiqR B=.?_A_a Q=_s>:|" from someone and call it
> > with
>
> If I'm not mistaken, that looks _exactly_ like what the man page tells
>
* Gregor Zattler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Thomas Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Die 25 Dez 2001 12:14:19 GMT]:
>
> [ ... reformating paragraphs in replys ... ]
> > I use par(1), http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~amc/Par/
>
> How (with which parameters) do you use it? I sa
* Benjamin Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> How does it scan your mailboxes, does it use grep mail or some other
> methods? If its short could you perhaps post it?
It reads the file line by line looking for ^From lines.
It's not very well written, but it works. I really should make use of
ex
* Philip Mak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> A fine-grained rotation scheme might work better; e.g. I could have
> a primary folder that holds the last 3 months of messages, and an
> archive folder that holds everything else.
I have a script scan all my mailspools (I use mbox) and move anything
old
* Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Does anyone know of a tool to import records from the Insidious Big
> Brother Database into abook, or am I condemned to do it by hand (my
> penance for using an Emacs-specific address book)?
Write a bit of lisp to dump it into abook's config format?
* Philip Mak ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> How can I achieve the same thing in vi? I'd like to be able to bind a
> key such that when I press it, it automatically refills the current
> paragraph smartly. Some automatic line wrapping would be nice,
> too... I'm wondering what configurations for .vi
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> When I started using mutt, I just accepted the default mail folder
> type. But, I like the idea of these new formats that keep the
> messages in independent files. How can I make mutt create a new folder
> using the MH or Maildir formats? (Current
* Gary Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On the other hand, maybe giving them an explicit choice of formats
> would be better.
Personally I'd multipart/alternate the Word version so even if word
breaks they can still read the message, and give a choice of not
including the word version at sig
Ooops, proof that that X-Uptime header's not entirely useless. Just
noticed I had a locked-up proftpd process that's been there for the last
4 hours :)
* Gary Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I've RTFM and haven't seen a way for mutt to send (not display)
> multipart/alternative attachments
* giorgian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> i haven't found anything in the man pages about mail filters;
> initially i decided to try procmail, but it is decisely too much
> insane for me: i'm a member of at least 15 MLs (plus this one :) ),
> and my .procmailrc is an awful mess, so i gave up.
Gibl
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 09:39:29AM -0500, David T-G (dis)graced my
> inbox with:
>
> > Great! I predict the same thing with %_ and mutt. I look forward
> > to the time when 80% of everyone else will use mutt right along with
> > us -- and perhaps
* John P Verel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I have the following in my .muttrc: folder-hook =mbox 'push
> odl~N
>
> What it does when I open my mbox, sorts the entries by date, goes
> to the last (bottom) one and then just shows new (unread) entries.
> Perhaps this will help you?
I think he mean
% tim lupfer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Dec 17 at 01:39PM Thorsten Haude wrote:
>
> > * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-12-09 20:12]:
>
> could your attribution string be any more inane? I mean, come on, an
> asterisk? they just aren't IN anymore.
How about @? @'s always in :)
Oh, I k
* Benjamin Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:53:27AM +0200, Jussi Ekholm wrote:
> > subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > -clip-
> >
> > It can get long, huh? :-)
Not when you generate it automatically. I have about 4 lines for 45 lists :)
The originator of this thread a
* Will Yardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> setting a relayhost (or 'smart host' in sendmail's terminology) in
> sendmail is also fairly easy.
Debian's exim package includes the option of such a setup when you
install/reconfigure it, too. iirc, not used Debian in a while :)
--
Thomas 'Freaky'
* Michael Montagne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I've searched and searched.how do I control the default string
> above quoted replies? The one that says something like "On 1/1/01
> spectacleboy wrote:"
set attribution="On %{%d/%m/%y} %n wrote:\n"
--
Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTEC
* Jussi Ekholm ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm always looking for ways to cut down on spam, but I haven't
> > come up with a good rc.spam file (I have a fairly simple
> > $HOME/.procmailrc and a bunch of $HOME/.procmail/rc.* includes).
> > Would you car
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > and finally posited> wrote it, not who's replying to it ;)
> > ^^^ This is more than one character ;)
>
> Not if you encode it properly. After all, with nearly six billion
> people on the planet and many of them with multiple persona
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> ...and then Thomas Hurst said...
> > Seriously, what's so wrong with '> ' that it isn't acceptable for
> > everyone? :)
>
> Do you want my semi-canned answer, or should I just keep quiet on this
> one?
* Slava Pechenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I am trying to make Mutt quote my replies in the following "smart"
> way: if original email is from "Tom Buddy" then quote string must be
> "TB> ".
The problem with this sort of thing is some users like to use '>TB', so you end up
with crap like:
>
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> ...and then Thomas Hurst said...
>
> > I have a nice lists.rc which will filter most mailing list messages
> > automagically if anyone wants it.
>
> Tips and tricks are always appreciated. If you don't post it for the
>
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:56:24AM +, Thomas Hurst (dis)graced my
> inbox with:
>
> > My filters look like:
> >
> > :0:
> > * ^X-Mailing-List: <\/[^@]+
> > lists/`echo $MATCH | sed -e &#
* Thomas Hurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Unfortunately, short of shooting anyone who ignores Mail-Followup-To,
> I don't think there's a workable solution. About the best way I can
> think of is on every list delivery, scan Inbox for the message id (and
> same/similar
* Will Yardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> i have the same problem sometimes. of course if you filter based on
> TO_ (in procmail at least) you'll still catch it, but i try not to do
> this since it's a bit more expensive to do the TO_ filtering. i do it
> anyway for some internal lists.
My fil
* Will Yardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> you can do the exact same thing with a simple procmail recipe. it
> can be argued (and as the gnus manual points out) that this might be
> unreliable. i use it anyway since i get loads of dupes. you can save
> them to a separate folder rather than delet
* Will Yardley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> > What program is the best to use for sorting my incoming messages
> > into different folders? I've heard that Procmail is user-hell, but
> > I know people who swear by it. Is there a better program to use, or
> > is Procmai
* Prahlad Vaidyanathan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed into the ether:
> [-- snip --]
> > Initial perl version at:
> >
> > http://freak.aagh.net/code/quotefix.pl
>
> Does this grok "^http:" and stuff ? Doesn't seem to do it here.
It should do,
* Paul Brannan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I accidentally hit 'r' instead of 'L', so the last two iterations here
> were in private. René suggested that I forward his response to the
> list.
>
> Is there a good way to prevent me from doing this again in the future?
Maybe rebind 'r' to im ml f
* Volker Moell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> In replied messages it's the realname part in "From:", so now I want
> the realname part in "To:" (prompted after typing "m"). Is this so
> illogical?
It is when you allow editing of headers (doesn't everybody? :)
I'd recommend allowing editing of he
I have set followup_to in my .muttrc, I have subscribe set (although
only with the first part of the list name, i.e. cvs-all not
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list-reply works fine, but for some reason mutt .24
isn't setting Mail-Followup-To.
Is it only set in original mails, not replies?
Hm, it is being se
* Cliff Sarginson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> However these evil people who top-post mean that unless you want to
> complete addle the thread logic you also have to top post, in which
> case a sig at the end is a little weird.
If someone top posts I just nuke all their quotes and reply as norma
I've got quite a few folders, but a number of them haven't had any new
mail for the last few days - is there a function similar to to
limit the folder view to, for instance, folders with a last modified
date < 24 hours?
--
Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/
* Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Thomas Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [01-12-03 00:24]:
>
> > Hm, thread-wise is conciderably more expensive - date-wise involves
> > just scanning the maildir, grabbing all the time()'s, sorting them
> > and cutting
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> ...and then Nicolas Rachinsky said...
> > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 11:24:53PM +0000, Thomas Hurst
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > * Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have no
* Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I have different views on Maildirs (see other thread), and I would
> move the mails thread-wise, but on all other points, I agree.
Hm, thread-wise is conciderably more expensive - date-wise involves
just scanning the maildir, grabbing all the time()'
Mutt and procmail are still handling my mail load with ease, but I guess
I better come up with a proper mail archival system before it gets too
much.
The most common solution seems to be to have procmail deliver mail to
[folder]-[date] or similar, but the problem with this is once it rotates
you
* Curt W. Zirzow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Wow, I knew maildir was slower but not by that much. I guess it has to
> do with reading each individual file instead of scanning the mbox.
A lot seems to depend on how well your fs copes with lots of operations
on small files. UFS seems to cope qu
* S. William Schulz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:16:47PM +0100, René Clerc wrote:
> >
> > I don't know, David ;)
> >
> > > > It's written in Ruby (http://www.ruby-lang.org/), but I can do a
> > > > Perl version if anyone really doesn't want to install Ruby.
> > >
> > >
* Dairy Wall Limey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Thomas Hurst wrote:
> > * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > But won't people who aren't subscribed to the lists not receive
> > > your messages?
> >
> > A rare special case, especially
* Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Thomas Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my mailing lists (bar one
> > broken one). Nice having a MUA this flexible, means all the lists
> > that use (or don&
This isn't entirely mutt related, but I'm sure some of you will be
interested.
I just finished (for tonight :) tweaking a script designed to rebuild
quote strings with the One True Quote String ('> ', obviously), even if
you're replying to someone with a really evil one. For instance:
name> : |
* Thorsten Haude ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Yeah, the basic brain-dead-mailer-problem and its reply-to-munging or
> group-reply answer. Fortunately, there's Mutt. I use group-reply about
> once a year.
I have 'r' rebound to list-reply for all my mailing lists (bar one
broken one). Nice having
* Paul Roberts Student lab engineer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:56:23PM +0100, Gregor Zattler wrote:
>
> > I'm interested in such thing. Where can i get this?
>
> Try: http://grepmail.sourceforge.net/
>
> There's a link on that page to the mutt front-end too.
http
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Thomas --
>
> :set mbox_type=Maildir
> T.
> ;C/tmp/TestMailFolder/
Thanks.
> Well, let's see, here... Now I'm finally curious. First I opened
> my big funnies folder and converted it to Maildir; on about 9400
> messages that took mutt about 7 minutes
* Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * Thomas Hurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011127 15:43]:
> The other thing, which it seems is often overlooked and
> underappreciated, is the ability to use nice things like grep, find,
> xargs and the like on your mail the way it oughta work.
* Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that
> it eats inodes for breakfast?
I was under the impression Maildir was extremely slow, just without
locking issues, making it a good option for pop3 servers.
I do tend to leave delet
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