Hey Dan et al,
The most recent version of Logic I've been able to investigate was 9.
Off the top of my head that's still the latest version. So far as I
could tell there wasn't a single accessibility improvement over the
last update to version 8, which was a bit disheartening. As things
stand,
Ben - I know the chap of whom you speak, and it's worth an ask.
Something to keep in mind though folks if you're waiting on this with
bated breath is that these Logic scripts haven't really been
thoroughly finished or tested, and last I heard the future of
development was a bit up in the air. Don
ation - the documentation guy's the musical one) kno this, but
> at th end of the day, its better than nothing. I've heard songs that have
> been produced in logic using the scripts and they seem good enough.
>
> I've just emailed him.
>
> On 04/11/2009, Scott Chesw
Wow, this is taking off topic to a whole new level!
Sorry if pointing that out treads on any moderator toes, it's just
been in my email summary thing 2 days in a row now so I figured nobody
in power had said so yet.
Tiffany D wrote:
> Thanks. I thought so but forgot to include that question. I
Hey Jerry,
Thanks for posting this man, I'd have missed it otherwise. Any chance
of seeing the list of priorities? There's no doubt in my mind that
you know pt deeper than me and no doubt that you've got it all
covered, I'd just be curious to check it out and see what's on the
horizon to be don
Hey Dean,
Your son will need to either be running a digidesign or m-audio
interface if it's pro tools LE he's after. Good news is that there's
some pretty cool interfaces at the moment. Bad news is that VO and
pro tools is currently a total non-starter, IE, not accessible in the
slightest. Sor
hmm, nice cheery outlook you've got there Will, lol.
I should imagine the main thrust of this will be the playlist
selection. 4gb of songs would be quite a hefty amount to flick
through to try and locate a particular album.
What struck me as interesting about this though is that the shuffle
has
Seconded. I want a talking classic as much as the next music junkie,
but I doubt there'll ever be one, not in it's current form anyway.
On 3/11/09, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>
> Wouldn't make sense, seeing as Apple has hinted the classic won't be
> around much longer.
>
>
> On Mar 11, 2009, at 11:02,
Could a solution to this be to have a small amount of flash memory in
there to store firmware and the songs database and spoken clips etc,
with the actual user added content still stored on an HDD? Now i'm
typing this it seems like we'd really be the only people who'd benifit
from that setup, and
True you can indeed use VO keys to do your work until this is fixed,
but at the end of the day a bug is a bug is it not, it's still worth
reporting. One of the things I like about OS X is that there's always
more than one way to skin a cat, and this is one way that eventually
needs to work.
Whil
How not out of interest?
Not meaning to be argumentative, I just don't really see a way that
this could be by design and be useful to anyone.
On 3/12/09, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> bug well, maybe not.
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>
> True
essibility in other areas.
>
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>
> How not out of interest?
> Not meaning to be argumentative, I just don't really see a way that
> this could be by design and be useful to anyone.
>
> On 3/12/09, David Poehl
with below.
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>
> True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
> reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
> no harm done.
> Agreed efficiency often takes longer
chop for a reason, but at least
>> reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
>> no harm done.
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>
> Hmm, I've read what's below and can't see anywhere that I say i
In this case, we are
> not dealing with a bug. a bug can also be an unattended consequence.
> I'm also not saying that does not provide a disadvantage at least
> initially but that all of the functionality of ITunes that is
> available is available and even more than before
Hi All,
Just picked myself up a shiny new shuffle. My old iPod loaded with
Rockbox finally gave up the ghost, and I figured this would be a cheap
way of finding out whether it'll annoy me being tied totally to iTunes
etc.
What I can't figure out is, how do I copy content to the shuffle in
iTunes
Hi All,
Ok, so thanks to Ryan and Esther, I'm now at the point where I've got
a few albums transfered over to the new shuffle. What I'm trying to
work out now is the most productive and speedy way to accomplish
transfers every time I fancy switching up the content. To give you an
idea, I have a
For anyone who's into all the old Apple stuff or just a bit of a retro
geek in general, Steve Wozniak's biography is worth a read. All quite
light hearted and easy to digest, but it'll be a fun few hours of your
time. For anyone who doesn't know, Wozniak or iWoz as he's
affectionately refered to
Hi Doug,
2.8 has the same behaviour here too on a Macbook Pro, and as you say,
2.7 seems not too, so that's what I've gone back too. I have no idea
what causes it, but thought it might be helpful to know that it's not
specific to your system.
Scott
On 4/21/09, Doug Lee wrote:
>
> Two question
Any chance of backing up posts like this with some depth, maybe an
example, a link or two, anything really. A rellivant subject line
would've been a treat too.
That aside I'm curious to know more. Hope you can post some
background on it for us.
On 5/24/09, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
> Take it off
Hi Robert,
As far as I know, the best way to tell which contacts are online is to
add the skype test call service to your contact list. Anybody who is
available to chat will be above that in the table, with offline users
below. I'm not running the most recent version, so hopefully this is
somet
Woo, subject line dramatic enough? Panic stations!!
Seems to me that this is a far call from a scripting language. Also
seems that elements would have to expose themselves to VO in some
capacity for it to work at all, all be it unlabeled ones, so
developers themselves might use this as a quick
Just seen that the download limit has been reached for the file now.
I haven't grabbed a copy yet, so if anybody could sort out a resend or
email it to me off list that would be awesome.
cheers chaps and chapettes
Scott
On 6/14/09, ben mustill-rose wrote:
>
> Dave, your contribution would have
Hi Chris,
If it's reassuring at all, I don't think you're insane. There are
always subtle differences between units with most products, even when
they're manufactured to crazily accurate standards in crazy numbers
like iPods no doubt are. I've experienced similar with one cheapo
guitar for exam
dumb question perhaps, but I'm assuming the multitouch trackpads are
quite a recent thing? I've got a 2.4 ghz mbp here from a few years
back, assuming that won't be supported?
On 6/25/09, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>
> I think you have to have the trackpad. Simon
> On 25 Jun 2009, at 12:36, william
Might be worth you taking a read of the thread entitled iPhone
accessibility James. There's been 19 messages in the last day or so
all around these same questions. There's also been more than a few
podcasts and demos and suchlike, might be worth having a quick poke in
the list archives for those
Will said: i think that most people are jumping to the iphone as it
new but the n eighty two does everything that does
Real world says: apart from out of the box accessibility to the entire
User interface, a far broader scope for additional apps, and a UI that
can only increase a VI user's often
> literal take on the phrase "accessible out of the box", but then the phrase
> lends itself to that way of thinking.
>
> Take care
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Chesworth"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:11 PM
>
Hi Robert,
Not got a sollution, more of a question. I think I've seen the same
behaviour you described. Next time it happens, can you check the file
sizes of both copies you get? For me, it was always that one was the
full size of the file, the other would be tiny like 32kb or something.
Far
James,
There are a miriad of options for audio editing on mac, with many of
them being superior to Sound Forge. Finding a stable powerful and
accessible one seems to be the catch.
Since you mentioned Sound Forge my guess is you're after 2 track
editing over the ability to multitrack.
Fission f
Yup, having checked, mine are prefixed with a period here. I seem to
recall an explanation of this way back, though couldn't easily find it
in the archives. The general jist was that these smaller files are
something that mac os uses to keep track of something or other (s
technical haha), an
Hi James,
Virtualising does the job for most things, although once the novelty
wore off I started to find the slight lag in performance irritating.
If I was doing something where I needed both OS's to be available to
use simultaneously I used to split the ram right down the middle. For
more inte
I haven't heard the review yet, but it seems unlikely. Are you sure
matey in Ireland didn't jail break the iPhone and shove his Vodafone
sim in there?
On 7/22/09, william lomas wrote:
>
> hi on blind cool tech an irish guy has the iphone review. why do
> vodafone have it in irelan
Blake is right on the money. Listen at 4:13 and you'll hear Cydia
announced, just after Fring and Facebook on page 2 of the apps.
So there's your answer Will, they don't have it any easier in Ireland
than we do lol.
On 7/22/09, Blake Sinnett wrote:
>
> In the review, I could've sworn I heard C
Hi Keith,
Macdrive from www.mediafour.com can do this. It's a paid for product,
but if you only need to do this once the trial version should do the
job.
There's usually about 1000 different ways of skinning each cat, so if
it's not urgent wait a while and see what else the list comes back
with
Keith asked for Mac OS X format though, which I'm guessing means HFS,
which as far as I know format.com can't do. Fat32 would probably be
the best bet though if you need both OS's to be able to have
read/write access from any mac.
On 7/31/09, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>
> Yeah it's called format.com
At the risk of coming across as slightly standoff-ish, does anybody
else think that this situation and reply is a bit of a sham? There
wasn't even a mention of iWeb, and both products have been updated
recently enough for improvements to be made surely. It's not like
these are old smalltime prod
e
> Apple an excuse or let them off the hook, I'm just saying.
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 6:13 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>>
>> At the risk of coming across as slightly standoff-ish, does anybody
>> else think that this situation and reply is a bit of a sham? There
sk for quite a while
> what can i use to replace garage band?
> I am in to music looping, remixing tunes with loops and also making my
> own stuff with loops
> Îany suggestions
> On Aug 4, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>>
>> And for the most part Scott I
Hi Romack,
There is no usable access to either app with VO currently. Digidesign
have shown some good intentions (you can read a fairly recent message
from David Gibbons at Digi if you visit www.protoolspetition.org) but
those wheels are slow turning.
Hth, and sorry to be the bringer of bad new
Anybody know if the accessibility of copy and paste functions will be
addressed in the next firmware update?
I heard from a friend who owns the iPhone a few days ago that
apparently Apple have incorporated a tripple hit of the home button to
launch VO from anywhere, so thought that perhaps it migh
Hi,
>From what I can tell, there's been no noticeable improvements in
accessibility in version 9. You may be able to scrape by with it
depending on the type of stuff you're trying to do. Some kind of
hardware control surface would go a long ways toward efficiency as
it'd allow you to overlook s
Hi,
They do indeed. Apple call it a screen curtain. To enable it, hit
VO-Shift-F11, and the same keystroke will disable it whenever you need
too.
It's worth knowing that the screen curtain doesn't as far as I know
save battery life. For that you'd need to use FN-F1 to dim the
brightness to 0%
Hi Robert,
Hold down command-option and hit either left or right arrows to skip
backward or forward respectively. The same commands should work on
any audio content iTunes will open excluding radio streams.
hth
Scott
On 8/14/09, Robert Carter wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am finally getting around to
Hi folks,
I own a 3rd gen shuffle. Come Monday when I can make a trip to an
Apple store, I'll be on my 3rd set of headphones since buying it a few
months ago. The first pair stopped working on one side with no
obvious external damage, and the 2nd pair have pretty much just fallen
to pieces with
This might not still work, but I recall a while ago someone posting a
tip for this.
If you add the skype test call facility to your contacts, one mac user
claimed everything online would be above them, and everything below
was either offline or not contactable.
Bit of a stab in the dark because I
Do you mean the sounds for nudges and the little animated imoticon thingies?
If so, nope, I don't think Adium plays ball yet. Whether you get any
indication as text I'm not sure, but that's more likely.
On 8/14/09, william lomas wrote:
>
> hi can adium users hear the messenger sounds peopl
And I'll be surprised if you do manage to get much to play. Could be
wrong, but I was under the impression the actual stream is flash
content.
On 8/17/09, william lomas wrote:
>
> hi has anyone gotten the bbc IPlayer to work on the mac with safari?
> I can't get programs to paly?
>
>
> >
Hey Anouk, welcome abord buddy!
Just a quick message to second what Esther was saying about student
discounts. Here in the UK Apple care is amazingly cheap if you're a
student, it's probably a similar reduction where you are. No rush,
but sometime within your first year's warranty, if you get a
I dont buy it together with the laptop? I am a girl
> btw not a guy, or does buddy refer to both genders?
> Thanks for the welcome, I am really looking forward to receiving my laptop
> and checking it all out.
> Greetings, Anouk,
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sco
Hi Romack,
Last I knew, you'd have no joy relying on VO with Ableton. The
company are kind enough to put out a very unrestricted demo though,
and I haven't tried in some time, so it'd definitely be worth grabbing
that and updating us all.
A decent multitrack editor is indeed a bit of a grey are
le of days, if it's a flat out no go
it'll probably be sooner than that.
cheers
Scott
On 8/19/09, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Hi Romack,
>
> Last I knew, you'd have no joy relying on VO with Ableton. The
> company are kind enough to put out a very unrestricted demo though,
&
Hey Anouk,
Seeing as it's on the list of supported displays, you should be good
to go. Don't worry too much about what the guy at Optelec said for
now, at a guess he's just another case of people thinking every OS
needs a ton of drivers and instalations etc to get anything to work
like Windows d
No need to be so warey Daniel. If you can find your way around inside
a pc, you'd be fine taking a poke about in a mac should your curiosity
ever get the better of you. The first time I opened up one of those
big old beast G4's I was pleasantly surprised, it's like the tidiest
of pc interior desi
Or, if you don't want cursor wrapping to be enabled for some reason,
you could use VO-shift-end to jump right to the bottom of the list of
messages once you've interacted. On a laptop that keystroke is a bit
of a handful, but it's there if you need it.
hth
Scott
On 8/22/09, Brett Campbell wrot
Hey Marie,
Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the
instalation process will be like in detail, seeing as the only people
who will have seen it firsthand so far are beta testers and people who
grabbed it off torrent sites, and neither will talk about it
publically in case
dred gig here as my music stuff is on an external.
> :) thanks for any answers.
>
> On Aug 24, 2009, at 9:41 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey Marie,
>>
>> Well I guess not many people can say for sure right now what the
>> instalation process will be lik
I asked about that, hmm maybe 6 months ago now. The answer was a
slightly puzzled no, as in they were slightly puzzled why I was using
a mac lol. Might be worth a quick phonecall or email to them to show
some more mac interest.
>From what I've seen, it might also be worth having a tinker with a
Have you tried calling Apple to ask?
They'd probably know.
On 8/26/09, william lomas wrote:
>
> if one pays for the courier service on the UK apple store though I
> wonder if they get priority next day receivement of the product?
>
> On 26 Aug 2009, at 15:09, Chris Blouch wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm gues
Fonzie et al,
Are you certain it will be a full copy that ships? I mean, if the
user were to choose erase and install, would it not require an actual
Leopard DVD anywhere in the instalation process?
I ask because a friend of mine is still running Tiger, but has
recently had to rely on VO way mo
Hank, Matthew,
Just in case you didn't realise, this thread is currently going out to
the whole macvisionaries list!
As wonderfully descriptive as those metaphors were, they're probably
not too appropriate here.
Please, if you're going to continue the thread, be careful which
messages you quote!
Cheers Josh, really well written review, seems to be pretty thorough.
I must, must, must make it to an Apple store today. This is the
excuse I've needed to buy a book on Apple Script and actually learn
something.
Scott
On 8/28/09, Maccessibility wrote:
>
> Review - Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard
Haven't tried it myself yet, but according to the review I just read:
hit left and right arrows together to enable or disable quick nav,
once enabled, arrow keys alone act as if VO keys are being held down,
Hit down and right arrows together to interact,
Hit down and left arrows together to end in
Just finished installing our snowy buddy here, quick nav has been the
first thing I've toyed with, and Josh is so right to be as
enthusiastic as he is in the review. This is probably the neatest
peace of usability I've seen from Apple so far! Totally simple to
learn, and faster to navigate and e
Also just my oppinion, but I disagree about points 1 and 2.
Can't say I ever have used feature numero uno in any OS as there are
so few webpages I'd actually want to read 100% of their content, but
someone somewhere will find it useful. You could argue that the
reading webpages automatically is
not a default and that is why it's a feature not worth
>> removing. My point is you have to think beyond what you have stated
>> and I don't entirely disagree with your point of what is or is not a
>> standard way of editing etc. At the same time, it obviously didn'
Anna, that's a great example of why the feature isn't all bad that I
hadn't considered. Consistancy can be key sometimes. Not even I can
be grouchy about that lol.
On 8/30/09, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm pretty much used to editing on a Mac now, but I'll have to say I'm
> glad th
Well whadda ya know, we were agreeing all along lol! The original
paragraph I wrote about asking Apple to remove the feature was only
really there to help explain why as much as I'd like it to not exist,
I'd find it impossible to explain to Apple why that's the case,
because no matter how well so
Hi Mark,
You'll be wanting to give Vmware Fusion a try I think. Virtual Box is
free, and fairly usable true, but Vmware Fusion is by far the most
accessible and well rounded product out of these 3. With your email
address being what it is it's safe for me to assume you're in
education of some s
Hi Anna,
Hmmm, well it used to be the case that command-g grabbed keyboard
input, stopped it from controlling Mac OS and started it controlling
Windows in other words.
This could be redundant now, from what you just described it sounds to
me like Fusion is grabbing input automatically when you co
Hi Anouk,
you should find the key you're looking for to the left of z. Might be
different on your keyboard layout, but try command with that first and
let us know how you get on.
hth
Scott
On 8/31/09, a radix wrote:
> Hello, i know this is dumb but where is this key located on my keyboard?
>
Anouk,
I don't have text edit in front of me, but from memory it'd be worth
you having a look through the view menu. I'm pretty sure you'll find
the ruler as an option in there you can uncheck if you don't use it.
hth
Scott
On 8/31/09, a radix wrote:
> Hey, it was indeed the one left of the z
Should you find yourself with only one hand free to navigate,
backspace works for this too.
hth
Scott
On 8/31/09, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> Command left bracket will bring you back a page.
> Hth,
> Chantel.
> On Aug 31, 2009, at 4:56 PM, a radix wrote:
>
>> Hello, i havent found this command on
Hey Anouk,
The keyboard shortcut to empty the trash is command-shift-delete.
Works from anywhere you happen to be in the OS as far as I can tell.
hth
Scott
On 9/4/09, anouk radix wrote:
>
> Hello, i know i can put stuff in trash with cmd-del but if i am in
> the thrash and i press that i
Actually to clarify somewhat, command-shift-backspace definitely
works. I don't have the mac in front of me now to varify whether the
same shortcut works for backspace and forward delete, but try it and
let us know.
Scott
On 9/4/09, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Hey Anouk,
>
>
Not that I know of...
Adding option to the shortcut performs the opperation without bringing
up the confirmation box, but I don't think that changes whether it's a
secure erase.
If the shortcut you want exists, you won't have long to wait before
someone smarter than me chimes in though lol.
Scot
reason does not work here, i
>> always get an error message when rying it and it takes hours.
>> Greetings, Anouk
>> On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Jeffrey Shockley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Cool. Didn't know it works anywhe
Hi,
I don't mean to come over as unsupportive Josh, because I'm 110%
behind what you do with lioncourt and maccessibility, to the point
where soon after Christmas when my schedule will have changed
significantly I'd love to start contributing myself or at least figure
out some way of supporting m
> Hello; I get a lot of email daily from the several lists I'm
>>> subscribed to. I don't personally have a problem with the news
>>> updates as long as they are really news. I think the more important
>>> question with this one is does this me
d the updates from the Mac site but would rather get the
>>> full posting rather than just a half paragraph. I know that one
>>> reason
>>> updates come in this way is to encourage people to visit the actual
>>> site. But, I think its an extra and unnecessary step
Anouk,
The answer to this is yes, there are plenty of applications on mac
comparable to Sonar, the big 3 probably being Pro Tools Logic and
Digital Performer, with many more options beyond that.
Unfortunately though, none of these are currently accessible with VO.
Logic is probably the leader of
Just as a sidenote, anyone wanting to restore their boot camp
partition in an accessible fashion should google and check out an app
called Winclone. It's the type of thing you'd have needed to know
about on first instalation to clone at the right point I guess, IE a
point you'd want to revert too
Hmm, imho it makes no sense, but perhaps there's something that I,
you, and every other list veteran I can think of has overlooked lol.
Seeing as you've got the convo rolling with them this time, perhaps
it's worth an email back asking them how you're supposed to
efficiently cycle through applica
Hi all,
These iPod releases come at an interesting time for me, as my field
recorder has popped it's cloggs and I'm due a new toy. So far I'm not
having much luck turning up specifics of the new recording
functionality, but I'm wondering whether this new line of iPods might
be a quick and dirty
Hi Rich,
The simplest comparrison to make as a new switcher is to think of it
as a bios update, efi is pretty much the mac's equivillent.
Downloading them usually means good news. Just be sure to take care
to read the update instructions that come up before it restarts,
because they usually requ
Hi all,
Just went to take a peak at the new iPod line on the UK Apple site,
and found this on the Nano page that got me curious:
"It all begins with iTunes and its seamless integration with iPod
nano. First, iTunes reads your song information, then uses the
VoiceOver Kit to generate the announce
It does indeed Blake. I also found a line on the tech specs page that
said something along the lines of "spoken thingies read almost all
menu items" blah blah blah. Between the two of those I'm 99% sure
we're not dealing with a TTS Nano just yet.
Scott
On 9/10/09, Blake Sinnett wrote:
>
> Soun
no and the current
Shuffles, but TTS for spoken menues.
That's good news peeps, thought I'd pass it along!
Scott
On 9/10/09, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> It does indeed Blake. I also found a line on the tech specs page that
> said something along the lines of "spoken thingies rea
tts for part of the ipod and not all of it.
>
> On 10/09/2009, Scott Howell wrote:
>>
>> So I am assuming this means the new Nano will then speak all the
>> menus? THink I'll have to go to the local Apple store or Best Buy and
>> play a bit.
>> On Sep 9, 200
It's very much that hard though if you don't happen to have a copy of
iTunes handy, I'm thinking people who want to test run the iPhone in a
shop or borrow their buddy's iPhone to demonstrate an app or perhaps
just show off. You might say it's an unlikely scenario and you'd
probably be right, but
Hey Uma,
For your first question, I can't say with certainty, but my gut
feeling was that you're stuck with the default mapping in GB. Could
very well be wrong though.
For your second question, I'm afraid the answer is that the note
editor still isn't 100% accessible. VO users can get to most of
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